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Cyberpunk Maker Vows Defense Against Class Action Suit Claims

CD Projekt SA, the Polish video-game publisher of Cyberpunk 2077, said it will defend itself vigorously after an investor sued the company for allegedly misleading holders of its depository receipts and incurring losses.

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Eonjay1226d ago

Investors lost a billion after the launch because of how CD misled on the actual game performance on devices that would make up the largest share of consumption.

What exactly are they going to defend?

Michiel19891226d ago

@Eon probably gonna nitpick over the wording in their contracts, as lawyers usually do

thorstein1226d ago

What do you want with your popcorn?

ScootaKuH1226d ago

Not Cyberpunk, that's for sure

neutralgamer19921226d ago

I am against these sort of lawsuits but CDPR did know game wasn't ready and they internally releases it anyway. Why not release it on pc and wait for consoles till 2021? They have tainted their consumer friendly reputation

But many gamers are defending CDPR when these same gamers would hate on other big publishers if they did something similar

Teflon021226d ago (Edited 1226d ago )

This, I never understood why it was essentially ready for PC only, why they couldn't just release it first and release last gen when the next gen versions drop. Would have made so much more sense

Emme1226d ago

Because they got pressured from the very same people who now want to sue them. Business logic. The investors always win.Its like ordering someone to put a hole in the bucket and then sue him for not beeing able to deliver enough water.

Rocketisleague1226d ago

We're not sure why they released it in this state, there's a high chance investors pushed for it imo against developer recommendation, that is the natural order

neutralgamer19921225d ago

To the comments below:

Yes but let's also not forget CDPR said it again and again it will come out when it's ready. Investors pressure I would guess so but I think they gave into multiple factors

Investors pressure
Ending the year with a bang
Generating more money
Gamer pressure

And biggest I still think is the fact they started looking at themselves as invincible. They thought we are CDPR and we are so pro consumers that the backlash won't be that much. I truly feel bad for the developers who worked on this game for 5+ years and than to have their work gets such bad attention

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ArchangelMike1227d ago

Sure they'll defend themselves vigourously, but it's still time and money down the drain. Plus there's simply no question that the game wasn't ready for release on last gen consoles. If you agree to offer full refunds, then you've already admitted the game was broken at launch.

I hope this teaches the CDPR execs a very valuable lesson.

-Foxtrot1227d ago

Not just CDPR but other developers aswell, like if Bethesda wants to come out with other buggy games.

So hopefully they are taking their time with Starfield and Elder Scrolls VI

RgR1227d ago

What other games have the kidding capabilities of bethesda games?

What other large open worlds like theirs that allow their amount of interaction are there out in the market and have no bugs?

Fluttershy771226d ago

@RgR I'd say Skyrim glitchy mess, insanely long loading times, and game breaking bugs at the time were ok because of how ambitious and revolutionary the game was, same with other old Bethesda titles.
Something like Fallout 76 is just unacceptable; is like a mockery to your fanbase

esherwood1226d ago

I was perfectly fine with it. Taking 8 years to build a game isn’t really an option. They’ll probably make there game less ambitious since everyone’s throwing a fit over crap that’s not even an issue

CaptainHenry9161226d ago (Edited 1226d ago )

Even some of the Fallout games was very buggy

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SullysCigar1227d ago

Does seem odd, doesn't it? Do something, apologise for it, then deny doing anything wrong when it's taken to court?

Projections led investors to anticipate 3.5 million more sales of this game before Christmas 2020. The messaging and developmental shortfalls resulted in backlash which reduced sales via refunds suggested by CDPR themselves.

I'm sure there's more to it that we don't know about, but I'd be interested in seeing how they intend to defend against this. If they're successful, I will take notes lol...

SmokinAces1227d ago

I dont think they're trying to deny they did something wrong Sully I think they've acknowledged that I just think they disagree with the lawsuit.

RgR1227d ago

The issue at hand is if the wrong is actually justifiably illegal and proof of wrongdoing.

Many times games come out with bugs and glitches so there can't be any wrongdoing there.
Performance problems? Many games release with those as well....not proof of wrongdoing either.

The release was just indicative of it being released before fully optimized and polished.

So what was the wrongdoing? Releasing it early? How is that unlawful?

Seraphim1226d ago

@ RgR not entirely sure everything they've told investors over the course of say, 2 years. But when they did push back the launch from Spring to Fall of this year they stated the game was done and the additional time was to polish and perfect the game. They have misrepresenting their product knowingly for some time. While I don't necessarily agree with the lawsuit and even after refunds the game has sold incredibly well and will continue to sell well once these issues are patched, a next gen version is available and more next gen consoles are out there.... the fact of the matter is that lying to investors is simply illegal. And I'm pretty sure these investors have ample proof of just that. Had they been upfront and honest with investors they wouldn't be in this position. had they remained a private company they wouldn't have this issue so on and so forth.

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TheProfessional1227d ago (Edited 1227d ago )

It's kind of a joke that Bethesda games always got a free pass for bugs and glitches and the graphics on their games were never even that great, especially on 360/PS3.

I get that the base last gen consoles couldn't run cyberpunk and that is unacceptable but the way people are overreacting about the glitches on the other versions is excessive.

Cyberpunk is still a really good game despite all of the controversy. The world, the story, the graphics and the non politcally correct jokes and ads are all excellent. This game is what the sequel to Deus Ex Human Revolution should have been.

SyntheticForm1227d ago (Edited 1227d ago )

CD built up a sterling reputation for quality and customer satisfaction in a way (at a speed) that no one had ever really done and then they completely upended that quality, satisfaction, and trust. Most of this was built by one game, The Witcher 3. Sure, you had the other entries, but they were far less ambitious and popular.

With Bethesda it was a little different; we learned to expect and accept large open worlds that were buggy so long as the games were generally good. Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Skyrim were all solid, but the latter two lacked the polish of the former.

So, two different situations for these devs that both ended quite the same, with trust and satisfaction being squandered in lieu of a fast buck.

I really hope we get a return to quality and that companies have learned from the disgrace of Bioware, Bethesda, and now sadly, CDPR.

Stanjara1226d ago

Yes and No.
Morrowind, Oblivion and Fallout had barley been in digital age on consoles, and those digital refund policies were strict. Besides that, those games were playable... even thou those game ran poorly on PS3 due to split ram...Sony would do shit.

We needed this. We needed 8 mill preorders to go sour. We also needed stupid move of giving refunds from CDPR on Sonys platform where Sony ended up with millions of requests and outcry.

So Sony refunded everything and removed a game from store.

Never in History Sony done that other than Fallout 76...I think Sony gave some refunds but quickly dropped them in respond to incoming patches.

It's a precedent to behold.
Now publishers will think twice of releasing unfinished product because it could reflect in loosing company's stock value, which is much harder than losing sales.
And Sony will have some quality control on their store end.

yeahokwhatever1226d ago

HAHA CDPR always launches buggy messes. Where you been?

RgR1225d ago

Im sorry. The quality was clear and actually more in depth in witcher 1 and 2.

Witcher 3 just got all the lousy casuals on board and thought wow...this is amazing. Some of us were like...the graphics don't look as good as the 2nd and what's with all these fluf aide quests....sure they were better then most other open worlds but they're still fetchy quests.

Their quality was clearly up there with witcher 1 and then 2. But all 3 of them had bugs and glitches....especially on consoles...performance issues were there. Not sure what quality you were talking about

RgR1227d ago

It's not just cyberpunk. In court you can't say stuff like it was buggy and therefore you can get sued.

It has to be more specific and be able to be applied in other instances. So in this case. If the issue was the bugs then literally any game out there is susceptible to being sued.

If the issue is performance dropping below 20fps then games from the past and games out right now could potentially be sued any moment fps drops below 20. Not to mention performance is always linked with hardware. On pc if you try playing a game with a super low end card you'll get low fps...buts that's not the problem with the game but with the console.

So it really won't hold up to scrutiny.

Are they sued over their projections for sales? Well they're called projections for a reason.

gamer78041227d ago

i don't know anything about the inner workings and promises with investors, thats really separate like you are saying from just a game being buggy. We really won't have any idea until the court proceedings become public.

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RememberThe3571226d ago

You really are intent on only seeing his one way. Why are you even bothering to comment at this point? This is a civil case, there is no jurisdiction bringing charges against CDPR yet. It a civil case there is not standard of reasonable doubt. All investors have to do in show they were mislead and that lead to damages and CDPR is on the hook for their losses. CDPR made numerous public statements about the state of the game that almost all proved to be false, and everything we've seen from the investors side says the same thing. If you're trying to undercut a court case with whataboutisms you're not really thinking your comments through, because thinking a judge will nod along to obvious logical fallacies is hilarious.

This will no doubt get assigned to an arbiter. No one is going to wants to preside over rich people bickering when nothing of substance is at stake.

yeahokwhatever1226d ago

they're suing because the investors potentially lost money when Sony pulled the game, because CDPR had told the investors and the public at large that the game was ready for launch, which according to their own admission, it was not.

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Rude-ro1226d ago (Edited 1226d ago )

They knew the state of the game that is on the largest install base of gaming.
They lied and they sold it while letting fluff reviews out first.

Everything else does not matter. Not time, not which hardware, nothing.

They will lose the cases and putting up a defense will MAYBE keep their losses in check. That is all.

CorndogBurglar1226d ago

But that isn't true. PS4 can run Cyberpunk. Its obviously not running at the same quality as PS5 or even PS4 Pro. The graphics and framerates suffer. But I'm playing it on PS4 and its not "unplayable" like people claim. Is it glitchy? Yes. But its glitchy on everything.

The problem is on PS4 its just no where near what we were told the game would be, graphically.

JackBNimble1226d ago

So why would Sony pull it from their store if the game isn't broken?

exputers1226d ago

Bethesda never lied, the only difference here buddy.

SullysCigar1226d ago

"16 times the detail", "it just works", "high quality SE canvass bag" lol

Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely not defending what CDPR did or their chances in this lawsuit, but Bethesda lied to consumers - many times. Maybe not investors, though, or they'd have found themselves in the same boat as CDPR.

OneLove1226d ago

Skyrim graphics were great for its time and still passable now......the glitches....well.....ya.

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waverider1227d ago

Gonna lose millions. Thats for sure. Try to explain a game launched after 8 years that got so many problems and isnt free....

RgR1227d ago (Edited 1227d ago )

Runs fine on the target platform and more powerful consoles.

Some bugs but that can happen.

They can show the game running on the preferred hardware and it will look absolutely gorgeous in court.

Fluttershy771226d ago

Apparently the game is a broken mess on PC too, but in any case the target platform was the platforms they decided to release the game for... They targeted the PS4/Xbox One audience and maybe they shouldn't have.

Stanjara1226d ago

Target was Ps4 and Xbox one aaaaand PC.
8 mill preorders, probably 5 mill on PS4.
That preferred hardware only came recently in a 3080...an that's what? 100k people? Probably less.
Oh and a PS5 and XBX which run last gen port.

ArchangelMike1226d ago

@RgR

Please explain what you mean by, "runs fine on the target platform."

Are you suggesting that PS4 and X1 were not the "target platform?" Then who was it that released Cyberpunk2077 on PS4 and X1? Oh wait... it was CDPR.

Now you understand why they are getting sued by investors. CDPR themselves said the game was targeting PS4 and X1. CDPR told investord that PS4 and X1 were target platforms, and that the game runs fine on those "target platforms." They straight up lied about that, and that's why they're getting sued. CDPR lied to get investment money. However, becasue of the true state of the game on those "target platforms" - investors lost a ton of money when the game released. Investors now want their money back. It's understandable.

The truth was that Cyberpunk 2077 runs like dog turd on PS4 and X1 - if CDPR had been honest and told the investors the truth from the start, heck if CDPR had told gamers from the start that the PS4 and X1 versions were not ready for release - they would not have had to issue refunds, and investors would not now be asking for their investment money back either.

This is why CDPR should have simply released the game on PC and next gen consoles, and then maybe worked on the last gen versions when it was ready. No way you cut it - they mismanaged the project, and misled investors. It's only right that if customers can get refunds on the game, then why can't the investors can get their money back as well.

waverider1226d ago

Really. I really cant understand how any gamer can say that. Try to defend them... They can show that. But lawyers just need to go to you tube and get hundreds of video showing how crap and buggy it really runs. A studio that doenst let review come out before the game is on the stores and doesnt let use capture video but what they sent.... Sorry, i hope the are force to pay hundreds of millions. This got to stop.

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Seafort1226d ago

I've played and finished the game on PC. No crashes, a couple of bugs and some graphical glitches. No worse than any Bethesda game that launches.

It's a great game with really memorable characters throughout. It will get better over time and they will release great expansions like they did with Witcher 3. I'm looking forward to the game's future expansions and free content.

It should not have released on the previous consoles. They were 7 year old hardware and were underpowered as it was when they released.

CDPR should have launched on PC first then the new consoles in 2021. They are PC developers after all.

AuraAbjure1226d ago

That's buyer discrimination then. "Buy this product and it will work but buy that product and tough luck. By the way, we won't warn you of the severe defects with the other product in advance- on the contrary we will lead you to believe its high quality. Both products cost the same too."

yeahokwhatever1226d ago

"some bugs" doesnt even get close to how busted this product is. I freaking love this game, its incredibly fun, im already on my second play through and I never finish anything.. but the game is very, very buggy. I'm 100% certain this title did not pass QA, at all. Showstopping bugs were simply waved because of time constraints and the money dropped into advertising that you dont get to spend twice.

yeahokwhatever1226d ago

JustTheFax
"not one crash" HAHA liar. yes, im going to call you a liar with zero evidence. I'm on my second playthrough and this glorious masterpiece crashes every couple of hours. my friends on various other platforms all report similar experiences. great game, but you dont gotta lie to kick it.

Reefskye1226d ago (Edited 1226d ago )

@Stanjara 8mil pre orders 51% was pc alone 49% on every other platform, cdpr stated this a week or so ago, i run it on a 2060+9700k at 75fps 1440p patch 1.04 caused me a ton of crashes but it worked fine after a reinstall. Had like 5 bugs which have been fixed. I still get bugs on skyrim to this day quest breaking ones.
CDPR are pc develops pc is always there target platform.

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StoneyYoshi1226d ago

The game wasn't in development for 8 years. The game wasn't even in full development until the end of 2015 early 2016 after they released TW3: Hearts of Stone DLC which came out October 2015. 4-5 years is still no excuse but acting like its been in full development for 8 years is quite exaggerated.

IamFrasierCrane1226d ago

That’s ridiculous and only makes them look worse.

So not only did they pointlessly tease a game they weren’t working on for years, they hid how underdeveloped and lazily slopped together the game was in an attempt to take customers money and maybe fix the game later. Nice.

MetroidFREAK211227d ago

I hope this sets an example of what not to do with your game launches (release them half-assed)

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Xbox Has Had More Studio Closures Than First Party Game Releases So Far In 2024

Twisted Voxel writes: "We've almost reached the end of the 1st half of 2024, and Xbox has had more studio closures than first party game releases in the year so far."

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KicksnSnares10h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Hellblade 2, Indiana Jones, Avowed, Towerborne, and Call of Duty are still to be released this year. Marcus Fenix collection to be added to the list with the Xbox showcase, hopefully.

anast7h ago

Those are all coming to PS5 too.

Tech52h ago

"Xbox Has Had More Studio Closures Than First Party Game Releases So Far In 2024"

they kept the IPs though. they'll be making them under the MS brand i'm guessing. like minecraft all those years ago.

solideagle6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

the keyword is so Far...

on topic: Ouch!

Hedstrom4h ago

Kinda missing the forest for all the trees statement!

shinoff21834h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Bet all those don't make it though this year

romulus233h ago(Edited 3h ago)

If we're going to talk in "still to be's" there still could be more studio closures from Microsoft this year as well.

DOMination-36m ago

How much confidence do people have in these games being good though? I hope they will be (especially Avowed) but from what we know of them so far, it's hardly a guarantee, is it?

And even if they do turn out to be good, how much of that will be down to Xbox and its leadership? Most of these games were either sequels to games made before being acquired or started development before being acquired.

And just a note on Hellblade II - it is out in two weeks and unless I'm missing something, I don't see much in the way of previews or advertising from Microsoft. Not ideal for a niche game that looks like it probably cost a lot of money to make. It genuinely feels like another game being sent out to die and then have the studio shut down.

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anast7h ago

Popcorn is good. Anyone want some?

anast3h ago

I wouldn't mind a caramel and cinnamon mix actually.

dumahim2h ago

That does sound good. I have trouble just finding caramel corn.

Eonjay6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Sony doesn't have to bother fighting the next Microsoft acquisition. The massive layoff by themselves should be enough to get the next big buy blocked.

Hofstaderman5h ago

Vindicates Jim Ryan. Don't know who didnt see this coming except those frothing pro acquisition fanboys who are not commenting here for some reason....

Tacoboto4h ago

What did happen to Obscure?

Tody_ZA3h ago

Obscure is working on his thesis on how to spin this.

Elda3h ago

Exactly. Where is the mayor & spokesperson of XB?

badz1493h ago

Obsecure where are you? Don't tell us Phil fired you too

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MatrixxGT2h ago

Let’s not pretend Sony is setting the world on fire with its first party either….it’s been crickets from them as well. In fact they even said not to expect any at all this year.
MS is a dumpster fire and Sony isn’t fighting anymore and it shows. I fail to see how this is a good thing.

Sonic18812h ago

I was actually thinking about that. You beat me to it

MrDead6h ago

So if MS hadn't spent $80 billion consolidating the industry just think of all the games and jobs that would have saved.

MS is a drain on gaming and have been nothing but a negative.

MrCrimson4h ago

not exactly like the studios were putting out good games anyway. Industry needs to restart from the ground up; if games like battlebit or manor lords can be made by teams with 10 people - then there's something fundamentally wrong with having 500 man teams put out glitchy overmonetized crap.

shinoff21834h ago

Interesting. Prey was a good game, evil within was dope, and hi fi was the best Xbox game that Xbox has had in so many years. That's according to the base.

romulus233h ago

HiFi Rush was a really good game actually so that's hardly the reason for shutting down Tango.

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My Trust in Xbox is on Shaky Ground Right Now

The Outerhaven writes: With multiple gaming studios, including Tango Gameworks, closing, the editor-in-chief of The Outerhaven shares his thoughts on the matter.

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rlow118h ago(Edited 18h ago)

Honestly I was looking back and at the launch of the Xbox 1. With Don Matrick at the helm I was disappointed but therevwas something else. That fighting spirit of Xbox at its inception was lost. They stopped innovating, I lost excitement on what the next big new surprise was, because their weren’t any. Not like Halo 2 and Gears launch. You couldn’t really brag about it anymore.
So here we are and corporate MS has ruined what was a beautiful renegade project.

Cacabunga11h ago

Xbox do not give a crap about developers they want publishers to make money for them that is all.

romulus2311h ago

Well without developers there's nothing to publish so if that's their plan it's a pretty bad one.

senorfartcushion7h ago

They've not changed. They went from discless trash to live services

shadowhaxor16h ago

For everything that Xbox did, I was hopeful it would turn stuff around. Game Pass was a start, and the release of its upcoming titles was a nice way to return. I mean, I'm not going to say it was perfect, just like I wouldn't say PlayStation is perfect. Neither company is, but when Xbox goes and does this, it makes zero sense. The message of Xbox's plan had already had me frustrated, but I was like, "Maybe they'll fix this mess."

Now... yeah. Not so confident anymore.

Aphrodia16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

That's how you know this is clickbait garbage. If you write about games for a living and didn't know Microsoft is a cancer on the industry until now than you are awful at your job.

hiroyukisanada9h ago

Came here to say exactly that @jznrpg 🤣

XiNatsuDragnel18h ago

Xbox will destroy Activision too and Bethesda will be gone too lol

Chocoburger17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

"Right now"?
But not 11 years ago with the disastrous Xbox One reveal which they NEVER recovered from?
Man are you slow on the uptake.

shadowhaxor16h ago

No, Xbox never recovered, but Game Pass (which you're a fool if you deny the success of it), Xbox Cloud, the acquisitions, the reboot of Perfect Dark (which seems to be in the gutter now), the success of Forza Horizon, Sea of Thieves, and yes, Hi-Fi Rush (FFS).

Denying any sort of improvement only goes to show you don't pay any attention to the entire picture.

Crows9016h ago

I think you missed the part where these things were spread years apart. Theres no consistency

ApocalypseShadow15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Bullshit.

Perfect Dark IP was purchased along with many other games like Halo, Gears, etc. Perfect Dark needs help with Crystal Dynamics just to finish the game. That's pathetic. HiFi Rush was purchased and was probably already coming to PlayStation before the purchase.

If Game Pass was a success, these developers wouldn't be closing their doors. We told gamers it isn't profitable. It does make revenue. But revenue isn't profit. It hasn't changed Microsoft's position in the industry or increased hardware sales. If it did, they would be shouting from the rooftops like their arrogant asses always do.

Anyone can have a cloud service. And Sony's is more successful. It took buying major publishers just to increase their spreadsheet. But Xbox continues to fail even then. By having to place games on their competitors platform while still trying to compete. You don't see Nintendo putting their games on Xbox. And Sony was only forced because they don't own the MLB license. Which was forced behind the scenes by Microsoft to take away Sony's successful game and throw it on game pass to use it against gamers buying it on PlayStation. How is the acquisitions a success if they have to close companies they just bought and make many developers jobless? Are you serious? Unless you call it a success by taking away games from other platforms that made those developers more money. That's ridiculous.

Sea of Thieves took years to fix. How is that a success that you have an unfinished game for years that needs fixing? Games should be complete at launch. Just like Halo was an incomplete game that needed fixing. Forza Horizon is a good game but even that game hasn't improved Microsoft's standing at all.

Denying all that shows that you're not paying attention.

Chevalier15h ago

Success? They missed their own targets 3 years straight, stopped announcing numbers because they're so terrible and it's not profitable. Hence the closing 4 studios. There will be more consolidation too. Just watch the by the books garbage yearly releases too followed by more season passes and shorter games come out

Chocoburger14h ago

I have been paying attention for past 11 years. That's why I made my fully accurate above post.

You're the one who hasn't, thus you made that completely worthless post.

- I don't care about a rental service for mid-tier (or any tier) games.

- I don't care about streaming services, I play on actual hardware.

- What is Perfect Dark at this point? Its just a name trying to have an easy win with nostalgia. The original developers and talent has long been gone once MS bought Rare in 2001. ITS JUST A NAME, nothing more.

-Don't care about Forza Horizon.

- Don't care about Sea of Thieves.

- I am interested in Hi-Fi Rush, but MS killing off Tango has pissed me off, so I don't want to reward them for their B.S. and now its guaranteed that the hard working devs won't see any benefit from me supporting them.

MS has done squat over the past 11 years. Nothing but the embarrassing stink of failure. I know this because I have been paying attention.

StoneTitan12h ago

I never played hi-fi rush, even though I would have loved it from all I can see, but as it never came to playstation... Now it comes to playstation and I have no intention to buy it because they closed the developer and the money will only go to poor phil and his poor suits. Well I mean, what else is there to say.
Gamepass brought them into this position so you would be a fool to see it as a success lol

romulus2310h ago

It's also foolish to deny the negatives gamepass is having on the industry as that is part of the entire picture as well.

ocelot074h ago

Gamepass? That is one of the main things that's killing Xbox as a platform imo.

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Skuletor14h ago

Must be getting their news on Microsoft's Internet Explorer

notachance17h ago

I imagine smaller ABK studios like toys for bob and beenox are now feeling uncertain about their futures

LucasRuinedChildhood17h ago

Thankfully Toys for Bob managed to safely separate from Xbox and are independent now.

notachance17h ago

lol I don't know that, thanks for clarifying

TheColbertinator17h ago

Beenox has been in danger for years now with Activision. Microsoft may act more ruthlessly to them unfortunately.

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Hi-fi Rush is too good a game to be shut down

It was announced today that Tango Gameworks, the studio behind Hi-Fi Rush, will be shut down, which casts doubt on the future of the game.

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z2g1d 2h ago

I’m sure the support and franchise will live on due to its success. They may even keep some ppl and roll them into other studios. There are layoffs across the map tho in the game/tech industries in general tho including Sony, Facebook and more. My personal family has been affected by them.

Lightning771d 2h ago

No excuses for MS. I guess Hi Fi didn't do as well as we all thought. So Much the for fun Little experiences that MS has been wanting games of all sizes. The thing is MS are so predictable this year they say "oh we want to prioritize bigger games." Next year they'll have more shut downs and say oh well these ballooning budgets of AAA blah, blah, blah. Even though a year prior they said they want more bigger games. When are gonna admit MS can't do or won't do gaming right? It's always waiting for this and that. String you along while destroying ppls jobs. Year in and year out.

Cacabunga22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

MS’ aren’t gamers they are businessmen.. they prefer a terrible game that sells and makes money to a great game with potential and can be used to grow a wider fanbase.. a bunch of crooks 🤮

TwoPicklesGood18h ago

Uhh Sony has laid more % of people off than MS…

notachance19h ago

this MS employee goes around every posts about MS studio closure and made deflecting comments in all of them lmao

Kaii1d 1h ago

Yet MS made a company-wide profit of $22 billion.
In my eyes releasing this on gamepass was a double edged sword approach, received extremely well, but didn't hit w.e batshit insane sales target MS had In mind

jznrpg20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

Nothing will sell well when they have trained their fanbase to rely on GamePass. (There could be a unicorn every decade or something like that) The price has to go up a lot or more than likely they close a lot of studios to get upkeep way down and have few studios handle all of the IP and still raise gamepass price just not as much as necessary to keep those doors open for all of the devs that created the IPs MS now owns.

Plague-Doctor2716h ago(Edited 16h ago)

The problem is it did seem to hit their targets

https://x.com/aarongreenber...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

Hifi is good but Microsoft dislikes risk I guess.

purple1011d ago

have all the people saying m$ buying all those companies, been proved correct yet,

they said more games, more choice, but ended up
less choice, less games, in reality... we were right

Crows9019h ago

It sucks to be right sometimes. Love tango works games with evil within. Also huge fan of prey...if redfall had been a single player story driven title I bet your ass they could've done wonders with freaking vampires.

Asplundh21h ago

They developed the highest rated game Xbox has had as a exclusive in years and they shut them down? Doesn't make much sense.

jznrpg20h ago

Makes sense to me. They still have the IP the studios mean nothing to MS

EazyC12h ago

That just shows how backwards their philosophy is. Studios are the ones creating the magic, you can't just chop and change them on a dime.

TwoPicklesGood18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

It does when it was a nice Indy time that didn’t make money. Unlike you, they think as a business and if the studio made enough money it would have been safe. One of the biggest companies in the world knows not then you, me, or any other random no matter what you abt to believe.

Asplundh17h ago

"Unlike you, they think as a busines"

Yeah a very poorly ran business, the brand has been going down the toilet for over a decade. With all the dumb decision making, it's not suprising why they're going 3rd party.

Plague-Doctor2716h ago(Edited 16h ago)

You can't give your games away for free and then shut down studios when they don't sell. Extremely idiotic thinking

purple10111h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Funny we buy art though, we don’t buy money.

So they should start “thinking” more like creators of art l, rather than creators of money, and as a side bonus, guess what, they might get more money

I get what your saying though, even any scraped some projects recently

Yui_Suzumiya16h ago

I'm pissed about this. I loved Tango Gameworks.

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