If Inside Xbox Dulled Our Next-Gen Expectations For PS5, Unreal Engine 5 Just Revived Them

From PSU: "It’s fair to say that Microsoft’s ill-advised third-party showcase of half-baked titles and PC build capture masquerading as ‘target Xbox Series X renders’ did little for folks expectation for the next generation of consoles.

Quite simply, what Microsoft showed us at its Inside Xbox briefing wasn’t what people wanted to see less than six months out from consoles that they would be dropping around $500 on. Indeed, in all truthfulness it hasn’t been easy looking forward to PlayStation 5 these past few months either. We wanted more."

[iplay1up2]

Xbox Series X 3rd party trailer really wasn't much. It was okay. Medium and Scorn were pretty interesting.

The Unreal engine 5 demo was better. It showed gameplay in real time, and explained exactly what we were seeing, as well as hearing. That is something Microsoft needs to do with a couple of their release window games.

Can not wait for next gen!

[GamerRN]

Not gameplay, per se. But a graphics demo. Try not to confuse the two.

Definitely did look pretty, I wonder what it will look like once all physics and gameplay engines are implemented, along with NPCs and enemies

[IRetrouk]

Nope fully playable demo running on a ps5 dev kit, its proper gameplay, recorded via hdmi, it even changes slightly everytime you play, that's from sweeney himself.

[ThereGoThatManQ]

Think back to the PS4 showcase, games have already surpassed that. This is showing us what it will look like for first party titles in 2021 I believe. Hell maybe even TLOU2 and Ghosts of T will look this good.

This is a small project for them think about 5 years worth with this tech.

Plus the advancement in hardware increased between ps3 and 4 and now 4 to 5

[IamFrasierCrane]

You're wrong. That absolutely was gameplay. I think you're the one who's confused.

[bouzebbal]

The unreal engine demo to me was far from impressive.. I really expected much more than just better graphics.. Hair animation are terrible, she went down 20 stairs in 2 steps, like she's floating on them.. I don't care about how many triangles are in a static statue, I prefer better immersion and better animations

[Lore]

Would you mind explaining the difference between the two for me? If you have the time

[Thundercat77]

Wow the denial in the face of reality.

[kopp3rbug]

It was most definitely gameplay. If it was a graphics demo then you can also argue all the Last of us part 2 trailers have been graphics demos. The fact that all the features the video talked about makes it less tasking on the hardware and developers, applying gameplay engines along with npc's and enemies should not change the end result.

[blackblades]

Seems like your confused they said a recorded playble demo as in controller in hand on a early dev kit ps5 system playing a demo of a game not in development.

[GamerRN]

@IRetrouk

Nope, it's still a graphic demo because it was using an engine with incredibly simple implementation. No actual gameplay other than player movement was implemented. AI, character models, UI, hit detection etc will take away available resources. Please learn how engines work.

[GamerRN]

You guys need to learn the difference between a tech demo and a gameplay demo.

Anyway like I said, it looks great and I imagine looks even better with more power behind it.

I hope we see games best this caliber but hopefully 4k... 1440p 30fps isn't going to cut it

[Unspoken]

Now tech demos are ok...smh...it's a testament to the engine, not the Sony hardware and UE tech demos are all around the net with Sony fans claiming it's not anything to brag about. But now that it's shown on Sony hardware their brains believe anything. 😭 😭

The irony here is that what we saw in the Xbox reel is going to be closer to the truth during initial release as those games are already in development.

[DJStotty]

Devkits are notoriously higher specced than the final console to allow for development.

Show this running on a retail PS5, that we have not even seen yet.

[GTgamer]

https://mobile.twitter.com/...
Sony conference is June 4th this guy has been spot on so far soooo I'm running with it

[yomfweeee]

"Slate of Playstation" = conference?

[GTgamer]

@yomfweee
Well a digital conference but yes that's what the guy is saying this should be the full PS5 reveal.

[BLizardXD]

iplay1up2
"The Unreal engine 5 demo was better. "

the demo is not from a actual game though being developed....
and Series X is said to run that same demo better.

[Jin_Sakai]

“ the demo is not from a actual game though being developed....
and Series X is said to run that same demo better.”

They specifically said the incredibly fast SSD in PS5 is what’s streaming data in so fast in the demo. Regardless, It can’t play Sony 1st party games which is what people care about most.

[Saijahn]

It wasn’t gameplay lol. The UE5 tech demo was impressive but please stop saying it was gameplay 😂 but then saying how dull actual hints of gameplay was at the Xbox event lol. Y’all weird

I was hyped after inside Xbox and hyped some more after the ue5 demo.

Next gen will be great and that article the other day about not seeing a leap in graphics has already aged terribly 😂😂

People need to stop jumping the gun just to get clicks. It’s starting to be embarrassing.

[GTgamer]

It was 100% gameplay played on the PS5 dev kit 🤔 https://mobile.twitter.com/...

[F0XH0UND922]

Yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about. This was actual gameplay on a PS5 devkit. Does this footage upset you or make you jealous?

[kopp3rbug]

Tell Epic then. Let them know their own video they uploaded and said what were going to see was all wrong. When you have someone like Epic going on and stating what it is we are seeing, then I don't see why it would be anything else other than that.

[ILostMyMind]

I'm confused. I think you need to explain what gameplay means for you.

[PowerPlayaaa]

Ffs man. You who say it wasn't gameplay must check your damn eyes or stop being a salty fanboy. If this was shown on a Series X. I can guarantee you that you would praise the shit out of it.
Yes. Its a tech demo. No doubt. But even so. Its still GAMEPLAY thats being played with a Dualsense controller, with a PS5. An early version of a PS5 i must add. And recorded direct through a PS5. Its being PLAYED for gods sake. Even though its a tech demo. Its still RAW gameplay from the PS5. And not some in engine pre rendered bullshit.
The salt is real in alot of fanboys from the other camp. But i don't know why though. UE5 is going to be on ALL plattforms. Enjoy the damn tech instead of bashing it based on a console its being played on. Stupid fanboys. Geez.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

How do you say "actual hints of gameplay" but call people weird in the same breath?

[TKCMuzzer]

Not as embarrassing as your comment which completely negates what the actual developers said.
You love MS, we get it but lets not deny the fact, the so called 'tech demo' has done wonders for the PS5 and its momentum, the complete opposite of what MS did.

[FyBy]

Typical tech demo is what you can see but not what you can play. This seemed to me like playable piece.So it says "this you can play". Thats the difference for me.
Game(demo)play is different to cuscenes or prerendered videos for this reason. For example replays in GT sport are in 30 fps to make graphics fidelity better. Also photo mode renders more detail. Its actually doesnt show how gameplay looks like.
But if you can freely move and environment dynamically reacts to your actions, thats for me gameplay. Its game build on UE5. Maybe short one, but its still a game. You can play it not only watch it.

What really seems revolutionary to me is, that you can use original unoptimized assetts. That can mean, games wouldnt take so long to develop. I remember GT5 on PS3 was delayed also because there were several HW limitations and developers optimized game for a very long time. Longer then optimizing usually takes.

[alb1899]

I'm with you in almost everything but it was a demo at 1440p an 30fps. Microsoft did show what can raytracing do to old games playing with the SX. This is just the beginning. Wait for more from both sides. Very exciting.

[nismo370]

Demo

[RangerWalk267]

Imagine what this demo will look like on a more powerful console. 😳

[GTgamer]

Ummmmm have a read https://mobile.twitter.com/...

[jbull]

Your going to be disappointed, windows central even had to delete their tweet as they got confirmation the PS5 can only run that demo due to the fast SSD.

[Ripsta7th]

But that demo aint real. Shit is not gonna go down like that. That is what they expect to achieve. Looks at unreal engine 4 . we havent even got to that level

[pornflakes]

to be fair, the demo was reportedly rendering at 1440p using dynamic resolution and without the next-gen bells and whistles like hardware-accelerated ray tracing, Epic told Eurogamer, and at what looks like only 30 frames per second

[DJStotty]

Not gameplay, a tech demo of what a game engine is capable of.

Does not necessarily mean the graphic capability or features will be represented in games that utilise the engine fully.

Developers will pick bits of what they want to use, and do not expect developers to use all unreal engine 5 assets in their games.

[itsmebryan]

It was just a tech demo that I think was only running 1440p @ 30fps. Hardly groundbreaking. I'm waiting to see how it works running 4k @60 fps on the more powerful system. Just think how much more the XSX will be able to do.

[ApocalypseShadow]

That's how it's done. Not CGI videos. Not upscaled, current games.

First we see Mark Cerny talking about what developers wanted to see and what they wanted to achieve. Then, we see a glimpse of the controller and it's new features. Next we see Epic display next gen possibilities using PS5.

We should see next, Sony's console, what the controller can actually do, the games and demonstrations of first party, after current gen games like TLofU2 and Ghost release.

Again, that's how you do it. First impressions are everything.

[darthv72]

That SX 3rd party game reveal was not thought out well. If there is a silver lining, its that MS knows what NOT to do when it comes to 'their' game reveal event in the coming months. Both Sony and MS should have some good first party gaming reveals of their own soon enough. WITH actual gameplay.

[ApocalypseShadow]

I agree.

[kopp3rbug]

Although I do agree, Microsoft having to "Know what NOT to do when it comes to 'their game reveal" is not something Microsoft should have to even be worried about. Third party games is as much 'their' reveal as is their first party games. It was their first shot at setting the tone in what next gen console powered games should look like. The fact that their first party titles will be absent from launch should have set a fire under Microsofts ass in ensuring their 3rd party titles were primed and ready for showtime. It is a given that both Sony and MS will have good first party showing but MS needs to rely heavily on their 3rd party reveals initially.

[mandingo]

Not sure how that ps5 specs reveal was a good first impression, but to each their own I guess.

[ApocalypseShadow]

Since a lot of you took a developer's conference out of context, I'll tell you.

Sony wants to change game design for the better. They want to improve the experience with a controller. They want to improve the sound design in games beyond the 3D sound that we, PSVR owners, are used to. They want to improve BC by baking it into the hardware design itself. That's what the video was about.

Would seem boring to those looking for hardware or next gen games. But developer's conferences aren't about that at all.

Also,added to what I posted above, even Sony's first impression of next gen finger tracking for VR was impressive.

Again, that's how you do it.

[kopp3rbug]

Because most people only are focus on teraflops. Thats literally it. If it has more then it must mean its better. It's the efficiency of all the components 'talking to each other that really sets one console apart from the other. Just because you have a diesel powered 8 cylinder truck doesn't mean it'll beat a Toyota Supra or a Subaru WRX. Sometimes more isn't always better, being efficient with what you have and fine tuning things is far more important.

[mandingo]

Who asked for that?

[WelkinCole]

Specs are actually the fisrt thing people talk about in any new gen.

[Ripsta7th]

This was cgi. No one was playing this

[Profchaos]

It was footage from a playthrough the Devs already confirmed this is playable and it changes on every playthrough.

Even if it wasn't and was only a tech demo in the traditional sense running on console hardware it's still not CGI. Toy story is CGI this is real-time

[Angrymorgan]

How much proof do you need dude?

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Do you know what CGI is?

[TKCMuzzer]

It usually helps knowing something about a subject before making a comment on it.

[TheEnigma313]

Smh

[RangerWalk267]

Sony has always shown a tech demo at the launch of a new console. Microsoft could have shown the same exact demo, but instead showed games. I do agree that the quality of the games they showed weren't anything to be too excited about... But they were REAL games. Unreal 5 will be used on every console. Just imagine what it would look like on the console with more capable hardware specs. 😳

[KwietStorm_BLM]

It was Epic showing their engine, not PlayStation. So no, it wouldn't have been Microsoft showing the exact same demo. The problem is Microsoft promoted the event as a gameplay showcase. There was none. There is no defending this, and it is far too late in the game to be making statements like we will learn from this in the future We were shown trailers. Trailers don't tell you anything about what you'll actually be playing, especially when there's no gameplay involved. On the flipside, if PlayStation did the same thing, then it would have been just as much of a disappointment.

[zugdar]

Yes and no. Tech demos are great but rarely are fully realized until the second half of a gen cycle if even at all. Think about Deep Down and other PS4 tech demos. They looked great but that potential was not realized until God of War. Many of the games from Inside Xbox are being designed for multiple gens too which also affects whats shown. I'm hyped for both but I think this argument is comparing apples to oranges.

[Donnie81]

Very true buddy. Comparing actual games to a tech demo is kinda goofy. It’s not gonna happen but let’s see the series x run this tech demo. Then compare

[Wetpapertowel]

"Comparing actual games to a tech demo is kinda goofy."

This is the first time we've seen a next gen console running some next gen gameplay. The Microsoft event a few days ago was very underwhelming and showed barely anything to get excited about.

"let’s see the series x run this tech demo. Then compare."

Okay so you're just getting defensive because it wasn't running on a Series X. Nice troll. Try to leave the fanboy rubbish behind this gen yeah buddy.

[Profchaos]

This wasn't a tech demo in the traditional sense this was actually being played that's been confirmed so in many ways it's basically a game.

[Donnie81]

Waterpapertowel
You tell me to drop the fanboy rubbish and leave a comment like that. Pot calling the kettle black if you ask me. I thought this tech dome looked good . Epic is using it to sell unreal 5 to devs by showing how scalable it is even on the lesser hardware. Cool it’s a nice demo

[neutralgamer1992]

Zugdar

Ms themselves said they will keep supporting older consoles for 2 years that's why I believe and I could be wrong that those games will be held back

No way can a next gen game fully optimized for next gen should be able to run on a base PS4 or Xbox one

The SSD factor alone should make so

[Profchaos]

Ms will support older consoles but no third party devs are obligated to support them. You know they all will anyway because that's where the biggest install base is

[zugdar]

For sure cross gen games will be limited. If the upgrades are as profound as they make them out to be it would be impossible to build a game with the level of openness they want for two gens. You get that every cycle but last gen seemed more like a higher res thing while this gen is more about actual changes to design and possibilities. Time will tell but exciting stuff for sure.

[neutralgamer1992]

Yeah will be very interesting

[Profchaos]

The ps4 unreal engine 4 tech demo wasn't all that impressive I thought it was surpassed almost instantly by killzone shadowfall

[generic-user-name]

Deep Down wasn't a tech demo, it was a cg trailer for a game. Let's not pretend God of War was the first amazing looking game on PS4, KZ Shadow Fall, inFamous Second Son and The Order are all clear examples of early stunners.

[zugdar]

Deep Down was first presented as an engine tech demo but later announced as a full game ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wi... ). All those games looked good for sure (forgot about The Order which was probably the best early gen looker to be honest). I watched the older tech demos today and the animations & effects really came to pass as presented later on IMO.

[Gunstar75]

30fps is cool again. Thanks fanboys lol

[mkis007]

Nothing is wrong with a locked 30fps game...The problem is when devs allow drops into the 20's. 60fps is a trade-off. Every day devs have to decide which is important to their goals. IS there a gameplay system that requires more power that disallows 60 fps? What if it was revolutionary? I'll take revolutionary gameplay systems over a res bump 100% of the time, and a fps bump depending on how good it is.

[Wetpapertowel]

30fps gameplay is far better than the 0fps gameplay we got from Microsoft's latest showing. Nice try though.

[Gunstar75]

Really... ? These kinds of posts get a pass here ? Haha

[Wetpapertowel]

Gunstar

"The PS4 was better than the xbox one. Not hard. Was still using a crappy laptop CPU and he totally effed up the Pro. That thing is a piece of dog shit."

Really... ? These kinds of posts get a pass here ? Haha.

[mandingo]

At least they showed real games

[_dangerclose_]

It was already cool the other day apparently.

https://n4g.com/news/234469...

[neutralgamer1992]

gunstar

30FPS hasn't even been achieved on consistent bases on ant platform. I much rather developers leave that option up to the gamers. Choose native 4k or 60+ FPS. not everyone will choose native 4k. Next gen should give us the gamers more options

[OzzY-waZZy]

Damn.. PS doesn't even have to do anything and still they make MS look like amateurs.

[Zool 08]

As it stands MS has their work cut out because so far after that uninspiring showing from Inside XBOX even the best games on the PS4 has shown it the door and this demo running on PS5 has made it look out of it's depth, and if MS continues to keep this up it's going to get it's self battered again, now you xbot's claim the XBSX can do better if that's the case it's time for them to prove it.

[preciousdeath]

Pretty much. And today's Ghost of Tsushima gameplay event will keep the ball rolling for Sony.

[_dangerclose_]

LOL, that headline. Let me fix it for you:

If inside xbox dulled our next gen expectations for xbox, Unreal Engine 5 just revived them for PS5

[n1kki6]

Right, because unreal will only work on the AMD hardware in the PS5 but not the AMD hardware in the Xbox.

[sushimama]

No one has ever said or thought that. You sound all defensive.

[TKCMuzzer]

Er no. Looks like Sony hit another home run without A: showing the hardware B: showing any of their own software running on the PS5. C: without having to tweet TF numbers.
One things for sure, Sony knows how to generate hype and interest, which lets face it, is pretty important not only for them, but for the entire industry.

[BlackIceJoe]

THIS is how developers should show their games, Not CGI trailers. Seeing gameplay or demoing the game gets people hyped to see more, where as a CGI trailer just leaves people with asking, why even show that, when most likely the game won't look or play anything like that?

[SyntheticForm]

Xbox's 'showing' didn't dull anything for me, but it didn't really impress me. I'm interested in some of the reveals from the show, but this demo was absolutely the breath of specificity we all wanted, which was gameplay footage taken directly from a next-gen console. But not just any gameplay - gameplay that highlighted what PS5 will be capable of.

Epic gave us what we wanted, along with Mark and everyone else who designed PS5.

[XabiDaChosenOne]

Sony has been owning the Next Gen narrative and they haven't even revealed their console yet🤣🤣

[Kumakai]

Series X gameplay thing dulled expectations, then this revived them running on the ps5 but ironically the Series X could have ran the same demo at a higher resolution or with ray tracing enabled most likely. lmfao. The demo ran at 1440p on the ps5. Sony's favorite resolution.

[XabiDaChosenOne]

Than maybe Series X should have ran a tech demo instead of top down garbage to demonstrate the capabilities of the console.

[caddytrek]

17% isn't the difference between RT and no RT, nor is it the difference between 1440p and 4k. And both is right out.

[WillyC009]

This guy lost? A minute difference in teraflops is the difference between ray tracing and no ray tracing. Lol, my word the delusion is strong.

[AnubisG]

You know, PS5 can do ray tracing as well. Did you see that luminus or whatever was it called? Do you need any better lighting than that? Yeah, I didn't think so. The PS5 can also do 4K and it's also 8K ready as well. So not sure what you are talking about there.

[neutralgamer1992]

Kumakai

correct me if i am wrong but didn't you say your company arranged the showing and there would be 1st party titles what happened? not only did we not get any 1st party games we didn't even get any real gameplay

[TKCMuzzer]

DF clearly indicated in their analysis, the lighting used in this demo was an inbetween for RT. RT is a resource hog and I doubt many devs will fully utilize it if they want to keep performance with high res graphics.
I highly doubt there is enough grunt left in the series X to push the FPS or res much higher than you see in this footage. These are higher textures etc, it would take way more grunt to push it to 4K, let alone a higher frame rate.
Lets get real hear, the % difference of the consoles is going to be less noticable next gen.

[TheHateTheyGive]

Ha lol, 1440p @ 30 fps is not exactly what i would call groundbreaking, looks nice and all, but why not have it in 4k?

[Stevonidas]

You can, on Xbox.

[Silly gameAr]

Can you do 60 fps on Xbox with this tech demo? If not, there's not really much to brag about, is there?

[TheHateTheyGive]

Thats right.

[WillyC009]

You can? With the small difference in teraflops. Makes total sense...

[AnubisG]

Valhalla is 30fps on Xbox Series X. What's up?

[TKCMuzzer]

You mean current gen games with current gen textures etc.

[yomfweeee]

Must be an Xbot thinking 4K means better graphics.

[ApocalypseShadow]

I would take a 1080p game with massive destruction, objects all over the place flying and acting realistically with physics, fire burning or spreading across fields, enemy NPCs hunting me down strategically over around and under objects over just a "pretty game" at 4K with less or nothing at all going on.

Pretty games are nice. But I like when more things are going on than just a pretty face.

[azizlksa1]

MineCraft on xbox one x running on 4k is groundbreaking, but this is not 🤪

[Zool 08]

If that what it takes to get graphics of that quality at 30 fps then ill take it with both hands

[TKCMuzzer]

They could, you would just have worse textures etc. Surely more highly detailed textures at 1440p is better than lower, less detailed textures at 4k?

[monkey602]

This is exactly what happened to me.

The inside Xbox last week deflated me and I started to prepare myself for disappointment with next gen, Todays engine demo absolutely pumped me up again though.

[AnubisG]

I think this is how all gamers felt other than a few fanboys.

[Pancit_Canton]

Next gen starts with playstation

[Tedakin]

A demo of an engine that runs on everything....

[AnubisG]

Yet, it was shown off runing on PS5. So we got to see what UE5 can do and what the PS5 can do at the same time. Win win in my book.

[AnubisG]

@deepdishdj

What win are you talking about? I knkw that EU5 will be on all platforms. We just got to see what it can do on PS5. That is all. People are downplaying it because it was shown off on PS5. If it was show off on Xbox, you would be cheering the power of the series x.

You don't know what fps Valhalla will run on PS5. Just because series X isn't capable of more than 30fps, does 't mean the PS5 can't go beyond that. However, I can imagine that they lock it st 30 on PS5 as well to keep both versions the same. We will see.

[Petebloodyonion]

Like I said elsewhere, I'm really looking foward what ppl will do with the Unreal engine 5
but there's a huge difference between a tech demo and a complete game level.
Now before someone tell me that it's a complete level playable on Ps5
just remember this keynote of Gears of war 2 about Unreal engine 3 because it was all made on Xbox ….
I'm still waiting for the complete destruction from the demo in game or the 100000 Locust on screen.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Point is the demo is made to showcase the possibility without memory barrier.

[fonger08]

Soooo we’re celebrating a tech demo that won’t have anything that looks this good using this engine for years... but are down playing actual games... neat.

[Z501]

Huh? TLoU 2 is next month followed by Ghost in July. No one's downplaying them.

Or, you mean the games no one cares about? Everything doesn't need celebrating. And obviously, everything isn't celebrated equally.

[fonger08]

This article is specifically about the UE5 tech demo. New games are just that, new games, regardless of whether you care about them or not, just as TLoU2 is needed to be celebrated/hyped because it is a new “game,” not an engine we won’t see fully utilized for a few years.

[TKCMuzzer]

No, people are celebrating somebody at last showing gamers what they can expect next gen. Gens last for years by the way........well they do for Sony and Nintendo, not sure about MS.

[AnubisG]

I kins of gave up on expecting anything from next gen mainly thanks to the Xbox event but than this beauty dropped and now I'm so excited for the PS5, I can hardly contain myself.😆

Finally hyped for next gen.

[WelkinCole]

For crying out loud. Sony is not MS. Sony are making exclusive PS5 games. Sony will not be stupid enough like MS to show 3rd party games for current gen as their first show on PS5

[Anomander]

No, instead they show a Techdemo that ran at 1440 30fps. Hardly inspiring as well. The said techdemo that will be able to run on SeriesX and PC as well and will most likely be available for download benchmarking sooner or later for PC for UE5.

[TheHateTheyGive]

I dont get why they are celebrating this as some positive. if it was 4k 30fps i would of never said a thing, but if 1440 @ 30 fps is the best they can show i would be concerned.

[WelkinCole]

This is not officially Sony. Its EPIC showing their engine running on the PS5. You can bet your ass Sony will show PS5 games when they show soemthing related to the PS5

[TheHateTheyGive]

You guys remember that wii u tech demo of zelda that to this day still looks amazing.

[medman]

"If Inside Xbox Dulled Our Next-Gen Expectations For PS5, Unreal Engine 5 Just Revived Them"

I'm not sure you could write a more accurate headline. Bang. Spot. On.

Let the games begin.....

[PowerPlayaaa]

You who say it wasn't gameplay must check your damn eyes and stop being some salty ass fanboys. If this was shown on a Series X. I can guarantee you that you would praise the shit out of it.
Yes. Its a tech demo. No doubt. But even so. Its still GAMEPLAY thats being played with a Dualsense/DS4 controller, with a PS5. An early version of a PS5 i must add. And recorded direct through a PS5. Its being PLAYED for gods sake. Even though its a tech demo. Its still RAW gameplay from the PS5. And not some in engine pre rendered bullshit.
The salt is real in alot of fanboys from the other camp. But i don't know why though. UE5 is going to be on ALL plattforms. Enjoy the damn tech instead of bashing it based on a console its being played on. Stupid fanboys. Geez.

[pinkcrocodile75]

And with that, you've buggered yourself. Now, if you extol any of Sony's pre-rendered footage as anything other than Bullshit, you'll be called a hypocrite and we'll have to laugh at you...but I'll be magnanimous and NOT call you a c**t.

Me, I could't give a shit, we will get a ps5 asap for my fella and my and the lads with end up with the XSX.

They will both be AWESOME

[KillBill]

Seriously... virtually a single demo shown here of Unreal Engine and people are following out of their seats because it had PS5 associated to it. The hypocrisy of the entire thing is just ridiculous. Anyone thinking this single demo was some how more than what Xbox offered in their showing is simply fanboying hard.

[bamillington]

Isn't the xbox reveal happening every week or month or something

[waverider]

how many here saying its not a gameplay demo.... Damn, Sony hit so hard with 3rd party gameplay demo.... Excuse after excuse to try and hide that. Go, go, go Damage control team.

[TheEnigma313]

Why are xbox fans salty right now?

[pinkcrocodile75]

They have no reason to be do they. None what so ever.

[DJStotty]

It was a tech demo, in real-time. The tech is being used for Hellblade 2 on the Series X.

Stop trying to make out like this is some kind of PS5 only tech!!

From Phil Spencer after the reveal :-

"Incredible work by the team at Epic @UnrealEngine, many of our XGS studios are using Unreal, like the team at Ninja Theory creating Hellblade II, and are excited to bring these UE5 innovations to life on Xbox Series X."

[WelkinCole]

Of Course no one is saying this is just for the PS5

[DJStotty]

@WelkinCole

So how do you explain comments along the line of :-

"First we see Mark Cerny talking about what developers wanted to see and what they wanted to achieve. Then, we see a glimpse of the controller and it's new features. Next we see Epic display next gen possibilities using PS5."

And why is there about 6 articles about a game engine, and they all make knowledge of the fact it is running on a PS5, whilst omitting the fact these features are also available on PC and Series X?

Anyone mentioning facts in this thread is heavily downvoted.

[bangoskank]

Square Enix's Agni's Philosophy tech demo from 2012 says hello. I haven't seen a game since then thay looks like it uses that tech.

[DJStotty]

Exactly, games very rarely turn out looking like these game engine's

I loved the agni's philosophy demo, still waiting for a game like it lol

[xXxSeTTriPxXx]

What does xsx reveal have to do with are expectation of sony's?