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Xbox Game Studios' Matt Booty talks Project Scarlett and delivering a game every 3/4 months

Matt Booty outlines Xbox's commitment to first-party studios and get our hopes up over the Project Scarlett launch line-up.

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lellkay1657d ago

Microsoft can't even deliver one worthwhile exclusive all generation, how are they expecting to deliver one every 3-4 months?

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lellkay1657d ago

@Kingthrash360 gets it. DWYD

Obscure_Observer1657d ago (Edited 1657d ago )

@lellkay

"@Kingthrash360 gets it. DWYD"

Kingthrash360 KNOWS that Xbox is gonna deliver on games big time, so all he can really do is to sang the old song "Xbox only has Forza, Halo and Gears", as if 9 new studios means nothing. Smh.

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Kingthrash3601657d ago

😂😂 yall mad? Obscure you KNEW all generation MS was gunna deliver....but what happened...noe you talking about next gen when they showed absolutely nothing? 9 studios mean nothing when the talent level is so low. Yall mad at me, but I been telling yall for years xbox wasn't gunna deliver. They still haven't and they dont plan to.
Why would they when yall accept them how they are today? Why spend money to make better games when you already like the mediocre games that come already?

Obscure_Observer1657d ago

@lellkay

"Microsoft can't even deliver one worthwhile exclusive all generation, how are they expecting to deliver one every 3-4 months?"

Phil Spencer made Xbox Game Studios bigger with the acquisition/creation of 9 new first party studios! Total of 15 first party studios!

Do the math! I´m sure can figure out how they plan on release those games on your own. ;)

lellkay1657d ago (Edited 1657d ago )

@Obscure_Observer adding more studios means nothing if they don't know how to use them. What good is adding more, when they have proved they can't produce anything worthwhile with the ones they have?

There is more to having a first party roster, than simply buying studios and saying "look we bought studios!!!" it's about having a vision and managing the studios properly. Microsoft have proved ALL generation they have no idea how to do this.

Not saying they can't fix this, but why should just suddenly put trust in them, they need to prove they have even an inkling of an idea to us first before we start cheer leading them.

I'm telling you now, Microsoft have bought all these studios simply to pump out gamepass filler crap, quantity over quality... stuff like Bleeding Edge and Grounded... they have less and less interest in big AAA exclusives and they prove it over and over.

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Donnie811657d ago

For one that’s ridiculous and two they now have the most first party studios in gaming so content isn’t gonna be a problem. They are investing in gaming on a scope that Sony or Nintendo couldn’t dream of competing.

lellkay1657d ago

@Donnie81 You literally didn't read what I said. Quantity means nothing when they have proved they have no idea how to manage their studios and IPs.

rainslacker1657d ago (Edited 1657d ago )

Sony and NIntendo couldn't dream of competing? Didn't MS just up their studios to the same number as Sony has? Or MS has 1-2 more now or something. As far as I can tell, Sony still has more top tier and top rated studios, and Nintendo still pumps out 2-3 high quality games a year, with both having GOTY contenders year after year. MS hasn't had a GOTY contender all gen, but somehow, Sony and Nintendo can't dream of competing?

Sure....that makes sense.

Just because MS brought a lot of studios doesn't mean they're investing in gaming on some huge scope the likes of which we have never seen. They're looking to up their game library, which is great, but don't over-exaggerate what it is just to bring the competition down. The article talks about bringing a new game every 3-4 months. That's great, but if they're just these indie style or mid-tier games, which is likely, is it really MS investing on a scope that Sony or Nintendo can't compete with?

Think about it for a minute. Sony and Nintendo both get lots of content that Xbox never will. They have indie and mid-tier content in spades, so while MS is competing with 3rd party content that they'll never get, the fan boys get the chance to say how MS is killing it, but they are just bringing themselves up to the competitions level.

The Wood1656d ago (Edited 1656d ago )

You guys really think it's that simple huh. . . . .

There's more to it than studio numbers but that is a step in the right direction.

itsmebryan1657d ago

Forza horizon. Does that count?

lellkay1657d ago

@LordJamar I own an Xbox One and have since launch. I'm just not afraid to criticize a poor product and poor direction. Who's the real fanboy?

Ricegum1657d ago

Ah Forza. The yearly rehash. Not the best example there Brian.

itsmebryan1657d ago

@ricegum. Fact: horizon comes out every 2 years and has been very well received. If you don't know that. I don't know if we can trust anything you say. But, please tell me what console racing game is better?

lellkay1657d ago

@alvira81 is absolutely bang on the buck.

Its so refreshing to see someone who can see right through gamepass.

mcstorm1657d ago

See it all depends what you are into.

For me forza Horizon and Forza MS have been my 2 most played racing games and Grid coming a close 2nd.

SoT has been alot of fun with my friends OK its not the best game in the world but then again it's a really fun MP game and that's all that matters.

Cup head was also alot of fun.

Halo 5 lost its way but again tmcc had kept my fps needsbunder wraps as I feel all fps games this gen have felt under par.

KI is my most played fighting game to love how its evolved.

Gears 5 I also really enjoyed and feels like gears is back on top again.

Really enjoyed QB loved what they did with the story and for me is better than the new one just released on MP. (forgot the name haha)

It is a matter of your own tast though. For me this gen across both Microsoft and Sony have felt half done compared to what we had last gen for me the most fun console with the games I have liked the most has been the wiiu. But as I said each to there own. Some will agree others will not.

That said due to life getting in the way and this gen not grasping me like the last one I've moved from consoles to pc gaming as fits my needs more.

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gangsta_red1657d ago

With the amount of studios they have working, they could all definitely put themselves in a development cycle that could see a new game every 3 or 4 months.

Now will they be worthwhile? That's up to the individuals own taste.

Atticus_finch1657d ago

Big promises like always, hopefully this time they deliver unlike every single other time.

Gazondaily1656d ago

Those studio acquisitions got some people shook!

Thing is, after Days Gone, Shenmue and Death Stranding, people are running out of ammo in their arsenal to deride any games that now 'wont be to their taste'. Its going to be a fun next gen

The Wood1656d ago (Edited 1656d ago )

'Now will they be worthwhile? That's up to the individuals own taste'

Truth.

The more you have the more chances of a hit

'Those studio acquisitions got some people shook!' Lol. . . Some people have been shook about xbox all generation right. ! Lol

Automatic791657d ago

First they ask for content, when the content is on it's way they begin to trash it.

You wonder why true gamers dont take keyboard warriors serious.

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rainslacker1657d ago

True gamer? Is that like True4K?

People question the nature of the quality. Not them saying they'll do it....although there is some of that too. MS has been saying all gen they're going to have games. MS has said all gen how awesome they are, along with their fan boys. MS has said all gen how awesome they're going to be. The games they just showed don't really scream huge AAA big name franchises.

People question MS because they've been pretty crap all gen. It's not the keyboard warriors fault that "true gamers" can't call out MS when it's prudent, or not just give them the benefit of the doubt because some MS exec says so. MS did it to themselves, and it'll be a while before people can reasonably say that the criticisms are no longer justified.

lellkay1657d ago (Edited 1657d ago )

@Automatic79

We asked for high quality content, and they have failed to deliver that time after time. Nintendo and Sony smash it out the ball park year after year with GOTY contenders most years. Microsoft pump out let down after let down.

Stop trying to play the "I'm a true gamer" card. You ain't a true gamer if your happy to consume low quality garbage instead of expecting the best. It puts you on par with a casual mobile gamer who plays low quality trash. Get out of here.

AngelicIceDiamond1657d ago

@lellkay Umm because they have more studios genius....

lellkay1657d ago (Edited 1657d ago )

@AngelicIceDiamond I don't know HOW MANY times I'm going to have to explain this.

Adding more studios means nothing if they don't know how to use them. What good is adding more, when they have proved they can't produce anything worthwhile with the ones they have?

There is more to having a first party roster, than simply buying studios and saying "look we bought studios!!!" it's about having a vision and managing the studios properly. Microsoft have proved ALL generation they have no idea how to do this.

Not saying they can't fix this, but why should just suddenly put trust in them, they need to prove they have even an inkling of an idea to us first before we start cheer leading them.

I'm telling you now, Microsoft have bought all these studios simply to pump out gamepass filler crap, quantity over quality... stuff like Bleeding Edge and Grounded... they have less and less interest in big AAA exclusives because the incentive isn't there for gamepass. They want quick releases and potential repeat monetisation, how else will they maintain gamepass?

AngelicIceDiamond1657d ago

@lellkay I can take apart your entire argument *cracks knuckles.

"There is more to having a first party roster, than simply buying studios and saying "look we bought studios!!!" it's about having a vision and managing the studios properly. Microsoft have proved ALL generation they have no idea how to do this."

Considering this the most studios MS has ever gotten in in all of Xbox life time where is the proof that MS can't manage these studios? 6 years back MS never had this many studios to even judge how they'll manage its studios now so you don't know at all.

"Adding more studios means nothing if they don't know how to use them. What good is adding more, when they have proved they can't produce anything worthwhile with the ones they have?"

Ok MS will use the studios like how they use Turn 10, 343, Rare and Coalition. Gears released a few months ago with great reviews. Forza some how gets better and better with bi annual releases. Halo releases next year, SOT is still being supported while Ever Wilds got announced on top of an undiscolsed new AAA project from Rare. Not sure what you're talkin about.

"I'm telling you now, Microsoft have bought all these studios simply to pump out gamepass filler crap, quantity over quality... stuff like Bleeding Edge and Grounded... they have less and less interest in big AAA exclusives because the incentive isn't there for gamepass. They want quick releases and potential repeat monetisation, how else will they maintain gamepass?"

This old tired argument. Listen carefully MS has, NT, PG, TI and Obsidian. 4 new AAA studios on top of 343, The Coalition, Turn 10 and Rare. That's 8 total the rest are AA studios. So logically MS can pump out AA games that could be highly rated as Ori. Since AAA's take much longer to make why not have studios release AA games while they're still hard at work with AAA's? GP filler is a myth dead old argument because it logically makes no sense. How bout we concern troll something new or make up another excuse outta thin air now. We have creative trolls and fanboys I'm sure they'll find something to complain about.

CaptainObvious8781656d ago (Edited 1656d ago )

"Considering this the most studios MS has ever gotten in in all of Xbox life time where is the proof that MS can't manage these studios? 6 years back MS never had this many studios to even judge how they'll manage its studios now so you don't know at all."

You know, Angelic, I remember back in the previous generation you were quite level headed and articulate, even if I did disagree with you on most things, but now you're thrown all reason and any kind of intelligent thinking out the window.

Tell me, if I'm jungling 5 plates on sticks and you can see I'm visibly struggling, rushing to keep the plates spinning, one of the plates even falls off and breaks, what in the ever loving hell would possess you to thinking I'd do better if you gave me 10 more plates to manage?

You ask for proof MS can't manang games. How about you open you're bloody eyes, smh. Sea of thieves, crack down 3, quantum break are just a few games off the top of my head that launched poorly. And ms haven't had a single game that come anywhere close to a GOTY contender. Hell, it was only after MS became a laughing stock meme that they started buying up studios.

But your precious MS have made yet another empty promise, so that means you need to blindly believe them and foolishly defend them from any and all rational and logical criticism. And if that means you have say some really stupids and illogical things... so be it.

AngelicIceDiamond1656d ago (Edited 1656d ago )

@Captain from your first paragraph you're parroting the same stuff I've been seeing on here forever now. You're saying no matter what MS does they're gonna mess up like it's factual or written in the stars. That's a personal negative mindset that YOU have I can't argue against something that you feel personally about. That's literally a you a problem. Not a Me problem or MS problem but a you and you only. Because what you're saying us MS will fail no matter what they do every single thing they do will fail. That's in your crazy head your issues and problems that unique to only you.

"You ask for proof MS can't manang games."

You're not slick I said STUDIOS not games. MS has never had that many studios in the past ever. You said laughing stick meme when they bought up studios. Again you live in a separate reality where there's empty promises because you never acknowledge what MS is doing while the media has praised MS for fixing its 1st party studios. That's not in reality that's in your sick little mind. Fever dreaming that every single thing is the same with MS. You might wanna get help and fast.

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Sophisticated_Chap1657d ago (Edited 1657d ago )

I havent seen any PS4 exclusives, other that Uncharted 4, that i'm personally interested in. Sony has abandoned almost every franchise of theirs that I used to love playing on PS3. On the other hand I have enjoyed Gears 4, Halo 5 and Quantum Break. Different strokes for different folks.

FanboySpotter1657d ago

Project scarlett isn't this gen. Comparing current gen to a gen no person knows outcomes to just shows who the fanboys here really are. That's like saying "who would trust ps5 with all the hacking that happened on sony?" No one knows just how secure ps5 will be no one knows how much content any next gen console will pump out

neutralgamer19921657d ago (Edited 1657d ago )

We don't mind waiting a bit longer focus on quality over quantity please. With game pass I feel like ms wants to release as many game as fast as they can which could mean less quality. But I will give benefit of the doubt to Phil and ms because we want more quality AAA games

Atticus_finch1657d ago

I'm guessing they will lower the standards.

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Atticus_finch1656d ago

You're cute.
Don't hate the messenger...

MadLad1657d ago

Even if they are retreads, Forza Horizon says hi as it gets better with every release. Let's also not pretend Gears and Halo aren't also giant names; and with Gears now being at the top of its game, and Halo, hopefully, returning to form.

I want more new IPs. I'm hopeful what with all their new studios. Hell; I'm highly excited at what an Outer Worlds with MS money could be. They dropped the ball this gen, but let's not pretend they haven't put out good games.

Kumakai1656d ago (Edited 1656d ago )

Were you not paying attention when they said they now have 15 studios all cranking?

NewEnds01861656d ago

Maybe in your opinion.

I've liked state of decay and gears and sea of thieves and the forza game. To me they were worthwhile.

Stating something as fact when it is your opinion does not make you seem fanboyish at all /s

Mister_Wolf1656d ago

Well the expectation would be based on clear and hard lessons learned throughout the Xbox One lifecycle. Do you know how we know they have clearly noticed their fuck ups? The studio's they have acquired, and the studio they started, and the studio's they are continuing to look into buying.

Reiterating the same point everyone already knows that Xbox had a really shit generation is tiresome and old. Almost everyone is aware of Xbox dropping the ball this gen.

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BrainSyphoned1657d ago

Three indie games, Forza.
Three indie games, Crackdown 4.
Three indie games, Halo ReRemastered.
Three indie games, Scalebound remembrance demo.

itsmebryan1657d ago

When PS4 launched it had mostly indie games and that was ok. But, now indie games are bad?

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Ricegum1657d ago

Itsmebrian

I'm sure you were one of those Xbox fans who tore into Sony for showing support for indie developers. So now Indies are cool?

Silly gameAr1657d ago

Yeah, it was so ok, that xbox fans called it "the indiestation 4". That's how ok it was.

darthv721657d ago

^you three are remembering things your own way. Just to be clear, indie games are fine and the whole mocking the PS4 was over their decision to finally embrace indie games when it released unlike their luke warm attitude towards them on the PS3. Keep in mind the 360 was fully embracing indie games long before the PS3 or even PS4 did. So MS has always welcomed indie games openly.

Games are games regardless how big or how small the team/budget/development time involved.

gangsta_red1657d ago

@Darth

Exactly, Sony was pushing the <3 indie marketing tour during the beginning of of PS4 and only seemed dedicated because of the limiting offerings during the first couple of years. But then ultimately dropping their campaign (pub fund) in favor of VR games which they even admitted.

I do like reading revisionist history that has once again been changed to fit the multiverse though.

rainslacker1657d ago (Edited 1657d ago )

Sony had indie programs all the way back on the PS1 and PS2. For those that know imports, their Simple series was an indie programmed that helped publish the games on disc. Some of those also made their way to the US through other publishers. Their initial PS3 indie program was antiquated from their past programs, but it was still there. Since then, they've been up and down with how they support indies, but they've never been bottom of the barrel. They promoted indies more at the start of the gen, but the overall support they give on a business level has remained fairly constant since last gen.

MS indie programs have been all over the place since they came into fruition. Never really terrible, sometimes not that great, pretty good right now.

It wasn't mostly indie games at the launch of the PS4. If that's the case, the same can be said for Xbox, because they shared almost all the same games. Yet, somehow, Sony is the only one that got labelled as IndieStation, despite them having more high profile games in the first two years than MS did. MS front loaded the launch, but they went through their own dry spell, and seems they forgot how to make it rain.

sprinterboy1657d ago

Infamous and killzone say hello

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The Wood1656d ago (Edited 1656d ago )

Thanks rain for the knowledge

Those early years seem to have spore one of the games of the gen and I much prefer a quiet portion of a gen than a quiet majority of a gen. Non indie games that scored higher than many of Microsofts games throughout this gen were released in that quiet period. Explain?

Darth. Sony always had indies they just never put them at the forefront. Microsoft had some smart timed and full exclusives in the indie segment but choosing to forget Sony had indies too is just as asinine. They improved this gen and marketed indies better and were ridiculed for it despite their ability to release indies as well as well as non indie games. Sometimes you just can't win

Gazondaily1656d ago (Edited 1656d ago )

Lol gangsta is right and Sony themselves admitted they used indies for their own goal and have put VR as their poster child.

PS <3 Indies. Dont forget that campaign of Sony that the Playstation Nation rallied behind, when it was MS with the 360 that started off truly supporting indies only to now laugh off indies...

So why are indies actually scoffed at? Because they are low budget titles? Some indies have some of the most imaginative gameplay. If you guys can give props to a game involving a pregnant man walking around putting ladders down I'm sure you can room in your heart for some indie love :)

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SkippyPaccino1657d ago

I wish Microsoft would release 4-5 great exclusive in a row before talking like they've figured it out. They talk like they run the industry when they're barely participating in it. It's time to execute the game plan and stop talking about it.

UltraNova1657d ago

In a row as in one to two great 1st party games per year. If they can manage that then they can go ahead and release one every 3-4 months. Small steps MS, small steps.

rainslacker1657d ago

I think he means just waiting until they've released a few great exclusives over a period of time. Not necessarily 4-5 in rapid succession.

MS has not earned enough trust to just take them at their word IMO. They're showing signs of doing what people say they need to do, but they haven't actually achieved it yet.

I guess it's about all they can do now though, given that they're trying to salvage a respectable next gen. It's what they've been doing most of this gen anyways, but it comes to a point of show, don't tell, which ironically is where they were at 3-4 years ago as well. MS really hasn't achieved anything yet, except buying some studios, but the results of that haven't really been shown for them to have so much hubris in their words.

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Obscure_Observer1657d ago

@SkippyPaccino

"It's time to execute the game plan and stop talking about it."

Plan is already in motion as Phil Spencer had confirmed that he´ll continue to acquire and create new first party studios. Not to mention that Xbox Game Studios has been hiring big names from gaming industry in an almost weekly basis; so, to assume that the quality of Xbox´s games will be equal or worst than before, is just stupid and delusional.

CaptainHenry9161657d ago (Edited 1657d ago )

Plan is already in motion you say? I've heard that so many times this generation and last. Guess we'll have to wait and see

Automatic791657d ago

@Skippy your wish will come true.

In 2020 Xbox Studios Delivering This

Xbox

Ori 2 Will of Wisp
Bleeding Edge
Minecraft Dungeons
Wasteland 3
Grounded
Tell Me Why
Gears Tactics
Wasteland Remastered
BattleToads
Flight Simulator
Cross Fire X
Psychonauts 2
Halo Infinite

Atticus_finch1657d ago

Is this going to be the "Best lineup of all time" number 5.

Jakens1656d ago

Expected 2020

Forza 8

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shaenoide1657d ago

They Said the same thing about the xbox one.

ThinkThink1657d ago

The difference here is that they put their money where their mouth is and acquired a bunch of studios.

Atticus_finch1657d ago

They acquired studios during the original Xbox and 360 years too. But you know.

Gazondaily1656d ago

@Atticus

What? Did they really acquire anything to this scale? Please come out with a better retort.

bluefox7551657d ago

I think they should perhaps worry about quality before focus on such quantity. But I guess one is better than neither.

Brave_Losers_Unite1657d ago

@Obscure

Well think about it.. Nearly all games that are out for Xbox are out for PC. If you have a good gaming PC, why would you choose to buy it on Xbox?

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Brave_Losers_Unite1656d ago

Kuduhater: "Me too! But im not some pathetic tantrum throwing toddler that has an emotional need to hate a brand! Thanks!"

Also Kuduhater: "Well considering ori and inside are better than any dull oscar bait games sony dish out, ill take an indie game from them over talentless movie games any day :)"

The Wood1656d ago

Brave. . . .lol. . What a shot

Kuduhater. . . . . .what a hypocrite smdh

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Phil Spencer Confirms More Xbox Games Will Come To Other Platforms

Phil Spencer confirms that more Xbox games will be available on new platforms during a new interview after Xbox Showcase.

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shadowT21h ago

Starfield, Hellblade 2 and Halo...

Cacabunga18h ago

Perfect Dark and Gears and the game with the girl and the huge croc

Eonjay17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

That last article where everyone is having a baby over a showcase is ridiculous because the Xbox showcase was really a multiplat showcase...

MrBaskerville16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

@Eonjay

I think people are just happy that they gave us something to be excited about. It being multiplatform stuff makes it even easier to rejoice as everyone gets to enjoy it. This show was really what Summerfest should have been, just with less of an xbox focus obviously.

These shows are fun to watch because we get to be excited about new games.

With that said, I imagine Perfect Dark, South of Midnight and perhaps state of decay 1-3 would be possible candidates for ps5. Doom might also be a given. They didn't really try to hammer home its exclusivity.

Eonjay16h ago

@MrBaskerville

Totally agree. I did enjoy SGF though unlike the majority. My personal taste is more eclectic than most. I found stuff at each show to enjoy.

Cacabunga14h ago

Eon

Come on man, yes it’s multi but as a PS5 and switch owner i enjoyed the show yesterday far more than i did with State of Play.
Most announcements came from nowhere to me, and MGS was a massive surprise to finally see some gameplay.
I’m excited to play some of the games on PS5 one day!

Like i said earlier credit where credit is due.

CobraKai11h ago

@Eon
That’s something i have to get used to. I have to see it more like when Ubisoft does their showcase vs Days of Play or Nintendo Direct.

I wished some of these games stayed exclusive. Make it seem like my Series X was a more worthwhile purchase. I use it more for backwards compatibility now so it’s not entirely bad.

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MajorLazer16h ago

Elder Scrolls 6 for PS5, please. Also I'd like the Forza franchise, I owned all four of the OG motorsport titles and FM4 is still one of, if not my favourite racing game ever.

VenomUK6h ago

NO. This can’t be true. The Xbox influencers on X/Twitter & YouTube who got angry at Phil Spencer then forgave him, guaranteed no other Microsoft games would come to PS5.

@ColtEastwood
@DestinLegarie
@SnapBlastPlay
@MrMattyPlays
@RyanMcCaffrey

ocelot073h ago

@VenomUK

I have seen that colteastwood on x. If you look ul embarrassment in the dictionary a picture of him as a example would be there.

I think people deservidly give obscure a bashing on here. But Colteastwood makes Obscure look like a PS5 cultist haha.

RaiderNation16h ago

The two Ori games as well. I have a feeling those will get announced too.

RaidenBlack6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Why forget Sunset Overdrive?
Also there are older titles like Dead Rising 3 and Ryse Son of Rome.

gigoran814h ago

they can keep their starfield. yawn

RaidenBlack6h ago

Single-player Bethesda games usually gets better over time with future patches and DLCs

just_looken3h ago

Why not xbox is the new sega a direction they should go towards.

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italiangamer21h ago

Satya Nadella wants that PlayStation's money, Phil Spinster now is as relevant as MySpace

purple10120h ago

Phil Spencer (February 15th 2024):

"Looking forward so 4 games no promise beyond that, so if you're on those other platforms and you see these four games coming please don't take it as some signal that everything is coming, it's not."

Phill Spencer (June 9th 2024)

'Our commitment to our Xbox customers is you're going to get the opportunity to buy or subscribe to the game, we're going to support the game on other screens. And you are going to see more of our games on more platforms and we just see that as benefit that the franchises we're building and we see that from players and the players love to be able to play'

Jingsing20h ago

I won't be buying any Xbox games anyway, Not going to subsidize their vision of changing gaming industry into streaming everything via a netflix subscription and they are the only choice. Remember when it comes to Microsoft "It's us or no one" You can't complain after they have taken over either.

Shane Kim19h ago

Especially when they "give" it to Xbox users and expect playstation users to pay full price for it. Like second class citizens.

Ironmike15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

U won't be missed

Einhander19727h ago

Ironmike

He will be missed, if he wasn't going to be missed Microsoft wouldn't be putting the games on PlayStation.

Make up your mind xbox guys, do you want to brag about Sea of Thieves success on PlayStation or do you want to cry about all your games going to PlayStation?

neomahi18h ago

So, the benefit of having an Xbox is the option of a subscription service that's more like a buffet and not a deluxe plate. By staying loyal to Xbox means day 1 "free" games of your choice. Xbox is a service.

If rumors are true Xbox is going the 3DO route, Xbox is basically a PC. I mean, since PlayStation caved and started using off the shelf parts to "make it easier on developers", which is a croc as were how far into this console generation and the only devs to really support PS5, kind of, is Insomniac, San Diego, and Santa Monica and we've seen nothing from other devs. PS4 was supposed to be easier so PS5 would be even easier, right? But what've we really seen from Sony first party when it comes to PS5 games? Nothing, they're all still possible on PS4. Xbox? Same thing. Hi-Fi Rush was possible on at least Xbox One X (another lie from Xbox with No one gets left behind). Wow

MrBaskerville16h ago

The original comment still stands, as long as they withold one or two series of games on xbox. Most could come but that still wouldn't mean that you could expect every game to arrive.

I suspect they want people to speculate, because then you don't know whether you should wait for a ps5 port or buy an xbox. Every game is Schroedingers exclusive.

Eonjay15h ago

The interpretation of his first comment is not to expect more than these 4 games. The interpretation of the second comment is not to expect any game to be exclusive to Xbox.

His communication is all over the place. The fact that we can't decipher what he means is what people are complaing about. He should simply say, games are coming to PlayStation but we don't have a set policy that applies to all titles. Sometimes less is more.

Crows9015h ago

Well seeing as most Xbox games aren't worth it then it's probably fine

ChasterMies11h ago

You can go back further to last year’s Kinda Funny interview with Phil. Microsoft has been slowly getting the Xbox user base ready for this. It’s like the parable about putting a frog into a pot of water and slowly turning up the heat. We will be at boiling when Halo comes to PlayStation.

gold_drake11h ago

thats what i mean when i say hes a big bullshitter, girl doesnt rly know what hes talking about.

Yang_kai1h ago

@purple lol that was a nice 720 doughnut, spin around for a month only to turn his back after the heat died down a bit

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-Foxtrot19h ago

There’s this small part of me which wants to think that the reason for Sony being so calm lately, especially after Microsoft’s showcase, is because they know this themselves, and they could know more than what’s being said publicly.

neomahi18h ago

But, Lego Horizon is on the Switch. Why is Nintendo the only comfortable one here. They're not even on PC

Extermin8or3_17h ago

Stupid take. The Lego game has been made by a Lego studio with advice on the IP from guerilla games. So part of the negotiations/requirements to make it happen will clearly have been done kind of multiplatform release.

LucasRuinedChildhood13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

That Lego game definitely exists to get kids to want to buy the proper Horizon games on PS5/PS4 (plus the multiplayer game). It's basically a giant advertisement. And kids love the Switch.

gold_drake11h ago

nintendo is comfortable because their first party games sell in the tens of millions.

Extermin8or3_17h ago

They definitely know more than is being said.

italiangamer16h ago

Sony gives them the PS5's development kit so they know exactly which studios are making games for their consoles, or at least they can make an estimate based on the number of kits requested.

People just loves to talk but in a couple of days this showcase will be already forgotten, and by the way 90% of the stuff shown is multiplatform.

just_looken3h ago

If they wanted xbox cash they would allow gamepass on PlayStation 5

Or just let microsoft buy sony as they could without any issues to there bottom line.

just_looken1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

@hof

Are you still in your pre 2010 bubble?

Microsoft is a trillion dollar company without playstation sony would have gone bankrupt years ago that is just facts.

Microsoft q1 2024 made 23.3 billion
https://www.theverge.com/20...

sony all of last year without buying a entire company remember q1 2024 for mircosoft as in spring so sony all 12months made 85 billion.
https://www.macrotrends.net...

Microsoft after buying various companies including acrtivison made 212 billion for 2023
https://www.macrotrends.net...

Sony has not made any big purchases were Microsoft continues to do so in the ai space and gaming space even in the military.

So yes microsoft could easily buy sony and not bat a eye.

romulus2321m ago(Edited 18m ago)

Their bottom line is irrelevant a Japanese company like Sony is not going to sell out to an American one so you can go ahead and let that little dream die. Kind of ridiculous to make comment such as yours in an article about the fact more xbox games are coming to other consoles, so who is it that's really hurting for cash here? It's rhetorical you don't have to answer, everyone already knows the answer.

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truthBombs18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

It seems the idea is to have other platforms(PS and PC) offset the cost of game pass.

Xbox users get the games on game pass while others pay full price.

Gamepass seems to be Xbox's idea of "exclusive".

These guys are so inconsistent with their messaging. It's difficult to know exactly what they want to do with their games. I've stopped caring. I just focus on the games.

Hofstaderman2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

This. When I saw day one on gamepass for every game I asked myself how will they make money? Answer: release on PS5 and get your sales from there and if lucky leople will sub on PC and XBOX. To ensure consistent subscriptions, space out the games. Either way MS has well and truly effed itself and Phil is a snake standing there pretending they all exclusives.

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darthv723d ago

Well... they used to design their own chips. Emotion Engine, Cell, RSX... when they switched to using X86 based chips is now more akin to low-mid cost PCs than before. It may not look like a PC but it pretty much is one. I'd bet it could do productivity stuff just fine if they allowed it to.

Cockney3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I think series consoles are closer to pc than playstation seeing as they used the full suite of rdna 2 functions, didn't Sony strip a lot of that away to streamline their machine to be games focused? Its probably lacking in the office and productivity department, don't ask me what their custom chip does or doesn't do I just remember reading a lot about at the time, "rdna 1.5" was the call and yet what we see is pretty much level pegging as far as games go

GamerRN3d ago

Actually, stripping that away doesn't streamline, it hinders. Those features are actually helpful for gaming.

And they didn't strip them out, they just didn't work closely enough to be able to use them all since specs weren't finalized. Microsoft took an inside line on that one.

The reason why things are equal is because Xbox rarely has games designed on their box, they are usually designed on PS5 and ported over. So Xbox loses the power edge it has to making up the poor optimization.

It's ok, I think the lesson is you have to have a significant increase in power of 30 percent or more to be noticeable. And you have to sell enough to become the lead console for development otherwise you lose that power.

Einhander19723d ago

@GamerRN

PS5 outperforms series x because it uses custom chips to process things that on xbox need to be done by the GPU/CPU.

Things like Tempest Audio, and it's custom compression chip for SSD as well as having a separate chip for upscaling using checkerboard and presumably FSR runs off it as well.

OlderGamer172d ago

O please stop the myth that the seriesX mythe is the only console that is using the "the full suite or Rdna2" is already debunked al long time ago.

Number1TailzFan3d ago

The consoles use video ram as system ram as well since it's all shared, so nah.

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Christopher3d ago

You should probably read the whole quote and not just go based on the title.

darthv723d ago

I have read it... I dont think anyone can build a PC that equates to the performance of a PS5/Series X for anywhere close to their selling point. Not for a while at least.

And my comment about them switching from custom chips to more PC related just adds to that fact. whether people want to believe it or not... Sony has built a low cost (not spec, there is a difference) PC.

neutralgamer19923d ago (Edited 3d ago )

We need better games on these consoles. This generation has been such a huge letdown so far. Moving forward these current consoles will be supported even when newer Playstation and Xbox are in the market. AAA games have been so expensive to make and it seems fun is taken out of games and loot boxes take their place. Try playing a NBA 2k game it's like a casino with slot machines

just_looken2d ago

The cost of making these games is a scam

Nba 2k19 to 2k14 its like madden the budget to make went stupid high but the fundamental of the game and the game modes never changed.

Anything now even basic intersection construction is tens of millions but pre coivid few hundred grand.

2018 here is $400 landscaping now here is the pink slip to my car.

I swear the cost of everything is the same but there taking of that huge profit top for there own pockets.

Einhander19723d ago

The PS5 is incredibly customized.

The SSD, the Tempest Audio, the APU itself is a mix of cross generation AMD hardware in order to be more optimized for gaming and cost efficient.

The PS5 Pro also has features from cross generation AMD hardware with RT features from RDNA 4 plus it's own custom upscaler PSSR.

PlayStation 5 Pro features next-gen RDNA 4-based ray tracing engine, allows 2-3x faster RT
https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

PlayStation still uses custom designed hardware.

darthv723d ago

honestly... I dont know why some are taking offense to it being called a low cost PC. It really is... and low cost is a good thing. the article did not say low performance PC... that is totally different.

Einhander19723d ago

I'm saying they still are designing their own chips, they just use AMD templates.

The PS5 APU has features from RDNA 1 2 and 3, and the PS5 Pro adds features from RDNA 4, and the CPU is the same with it own customized features.

Then all of that is paired with other custom chips.

just_looken2d ago

What you all said my rig in my bedroom can do it no issues

That plastic box has a 2020 cpu with the pro using a 2021 6700

The custom is do to them being dirt cheap with a 2 prong power supply so they made a cpu/gpu combo chip aka apu.

Get a amd laptop with there new mobile chips get the same performance.

VincentVanBro3d ago

You’re right but downvoted for some reason.

just_looken2d ago

Its this site even the head admin banned me for awhile being but hurt over my "anti" sony comments.

n4g is pro sony nothing sony will ever do can change that.

Pyrofire953d ago (Edited 3d ago )

When you only look at the big flagship chips that seems true, but there's a lot going on in a modern console that takes advantage of being a dedicated kit. The various elements put into how the pipelines are connected shape the direction of games. End to end decryption and data streaming is something big that PC can only kind of do and with less certainty for example. Dedicated audio chip that rivals the main CPU in the PS4 is a big paradigm shift, devs used to fight for cores and audio was often last priority, whereas in traditional PC design the main CPU does both of those jobs of processing audio and decryption, while also performing all the other CPU based tasks.
It's not the custom silicon that used to be what made consoles but there's a lot more to consoles now. Data storage was not even a consideration and almost no RAM was on old consoles. Now there needs to be an enormous amount of SSD storage, and RAM to make these games tick with how much is demanded from them.

just_looken2d ago

@darth

Your comment show how many sony blindboys are on here

You are 100% correct but to add on the gamecube-ps3 also had a gpu/cpu combo back in the day unlike modern consoles that are just glorified tablets using apu/igpu's.

I miss the ps3 era start of ps4 era that sony was awesome

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MIDGETonSTILTS173d ago

Yah, hence the majority of the PS5’s hardware investment going towards an SSD instead of a GPU.

There are countless custom pc gaming rigs out there, and I bet none of them took an SSD-centric approach to their design, like the ps5 did.

just_looken2d ago

LMAO wow sony blind boy's are mad in love

That is called direct storage windows 10 has had that for over 5 year's every computer with a nvme based ssd has had that tech for years.

https://www.thewindowsclub....

The ps6 will then have this new amazing tech you all will go crazy over resize bar
https://www.howtogeek.com/8...

But that tech has been out for 2 years all 40series gpu's intel gpus and the new amd cards have that tech.

There is nothing a ps5 can do over a 4+ year old computer 2019 rig want resize bar? get a cheap amd/intel card for half the cost of a ps5.

MIDGETonSTILTS172d ago

Clearly you did not watch Cerny’s first ps5 breakdown, so you don’t appreciate EVERYthing Cerny did to leverage their extremely fast SSD.

bigfish3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I can see where he’s coming from re ps5 not just being a box with parts like a pc. They must also spend an awful lot on r & d just to design the thing so it has aesthetic appeal and typical Japanese with some sort of Philosopy behind the design. Would also think other factors around the custom airflow and the like would cost a lot given that it’s not a standard box shape

gold_drake3d ago

true, but the alternative is, relatively, a expensive ordeal.
unless you dont game at all ha.

mkis0073d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Just spent 2000k on a 4070ti super 7800x3d 1440p gaming pc. Honestly consoles will never be replaced at this wide a gap in price. I plan to get a ps5 pro too.

just_looken2d ago

@mk

You waisted 2 grand you mean

At 1440p a amd4 chipset with a 5600x3d combined with a 6750xt even a 6800 can push 1440p just a much for half the cost or less used/new and or sales.

I have a 75hhz monitor in my bedroom 1440p playing games maxed out spent around 1200cad but aio 5800x3d 32gb of ram and a 6750xt 28 or 30 inch monitor.

Every time i hear pc so expensive i just laugh you can spend less than $500 buy a used ebay rig fix it up or a office pc toss in a cheap low profile card.

Pyrofire953d ago

If you look into the hardware beyond just the CPU and GPU things start to look different, and there's plenty beyond just those two parts, those two parts even are modified to their own design in some degree.

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