Two Perfect Examples of the Problem Sony Has

Over the past month we have had a glut of excellent titles come out for the PS3. Deadspace, Bioshock, LittleBigPlanet, Resistance 2, and Fallout 3. Resistance 2 and LBP in particular simply cannot be played to their full potential without the required accessories. So we took our already thin wallets down to the local gaming store and spent an additional $90 picking up the PS3 Eye and official PS3 Bluetooth headset.

[HighDefinition]

Is deciding WHEN to drop the price. :)

IMO the only reason they haven`t is because MS should have sold DOUBLE by now, but the HARDWARE problems have PREVENTED that from happening. In a way, it bought Sony some time to drop the price as much as they would like to. I still think they will before Xmas, but thats me.

[Death]

They are already selling the PS3 for the same price as an Xbox 360 Elite. They have scaled back the hardware and reduced the MSRP by $200 which is twice as much a reduction as Microsft has made. Sony launched much higher and this is the result. If Sony cuts their price even more, they are increasing the amount of losses per system sold. If they increase their losses and sell more consoles in the process, they lose even more money. Sony is selling the amount of systems they want right now. At this point in the hardware cycle it is all about controlling losses.

-Death

[snakebite36]

and awesome games that they don't advertise.

[Darkseider]

Complaining about $90 for a webcam and a wireless headset... Hmmmm....

$56 for the wireless XBox headset
$33 for the XBox webcam

Holy crap!! $90! This article is nothing but troll bait and spew.

[Horny Melon]

@ Darkseider:

Your comprehension skills are pitiful. It is not about the price, not once was there any complaint about price. Nor does Xbox have anything to do with it. It is about sony making one excellent product and then the next one is total garbage. About how this inconsistency and the undeserved "we are Sony and that makes us premium" mentality will no longer work with the consumer and will not put sony where it wants to be.

RFA next time.

[Darkseider]

Ooh I read the article and that's what I got out of it. It points out, in the first paragraph, that some games cannot be played to their full potential without those accesories. It then goes on to mention the cost of said accessories. Finally, while giving the headset some kudos and the webcam none the article closes saying that Sony is charging a "premium" for these products. I dare say a PREMIUM would be twice that of the competiton which Apple does for its' Powerbook Pro, iMac, etc... What Sony is charging is the equivalent price as I mentioned in my initial post. So yes I think I have a very good comprehension of this sh*t article. Now go try again and skip the bowl of failios before you do.

[Horny Melon]

Sony makes more than the PS3. It makes TVs, car stereos, home theater systems, etc. All of these are premium priced. Sure Sony's webcam is just as much as microsoft's but that doesn't mean anything. Microsoft has a $100 60 gig harddrive. I got a web cam of comparable quality for free when I bought my PC. I also got another one for free when I signed up with my ISP and a rebate on a third when I bought my wireless mouse. You are the one trying to turn this into some sort of fanboy argument, otherwise you wouldn't be inserting microsoft into the conversation.

[HighDefinition]

Just to let you know.....

I`m fairly sure you can use the 360cam for the PS3 to videochat.

[Horny Melon]

up if you could use another webcam on the PS3. You can, wish I wouldn't have thrown away all those free ones last year.

[HighDefinition]

Almost any webcam works w/ the PS3. It`s great, even though PSeye is the best one, IMO.

[Jager]

So you bought a 60GB harddrive for 100 from MS? Well, that reeks, cause i can buy 500GB Western Digital or SeaGate Internal Harddrives for my PS3...

[Darkseider]

Yes they do make TVs, Car Stereos and Home Theatre systems. They are priced accordingly and not near premium priced. Sure you can get a comparably sized Westinghouse or Vizio LCD TV and you get a lesser quality unit with a lower contrast ratio, faded blacks and a lower max viewing angle. You got a free webcam when you bought a PC and? Did the PC cost $399? You are not making a point as much as you are all over Sony for charging a fair price for their products. You just mentioned a $100 60gig HD from MS, I am assuming that is to point out that they charge a premium as well? I am not trying to turn this into anything but merely pointing out how the article comes across to me. I am sure that it's not just me that reads it this way either.

[mikeslemonade]

If you add up the not "necessary" things for 360 it would cost a lot more. Out of those games I only bought Resistance 2 and LBP for a total of $98 thanks to gamefly. The other games I rent thanks to gamefly. The PS eye I got for free, but if you don't have the connections to get one for free Amazon had a deal for $25 recently. And the bluetooth headset you don't need the 1st party $50 headset because the PS3 is awesome enough to be compatible with almost any kind of bluetooth headset.

[ohnoTheRancor]

well - if Sony has to be "cheap" on any products, i'd prefer it to be on the length on the USB charging cables, and not.... ummmm, say.... other things like substandard heatsinks, poor solder joints, or bad console chipboards!

[Why o why]

has cost MS and their customers more.

[xwabbit]

LMAO 100 bucks for 60 GB's ? I can get a 400GB HDD for my PS3 for the same price

[Seraphim]

actually, $90? This guy got jacked!! Where'd he go Gamestop? Sure the headset is $50, or $60 w/ Socom or you can always just buy a Motorola or other Bluetooth for $20 or less now... The eyetoy you can find for about $30 or less online w/ or w/o Eye of Judgment. I got my eyetoy last week from amazon.com for $22 because it was their Deal of the Day.

And as someone else pointed out. The same exact things cost you just as much for the 360 if you want them. And for LBP you don't need a eyetoy to play the game or create levels. It's just a tool that allows you to throw craptastic photos into your levels.... Garbage article if I ever did see one. :P

[Pennywise]

Take horny melons bubbles and quit approving his articles. After this one, I would be happy never to read his thoughts again.

Eye = $24.00
Cam = $63 with socom - Take socom back for -$40 = $23.00
Total = $47.00

Horny you fail on so many levels.

[XxZxX]

horny melon, the person who get it wrong is you.

Why? because your argument is like buying a AV receiver and complain it doesn't come with a IPOD dock, buying a LCD TV and complain it doesn't come with a wallmount,buying a speaker and complain it doesn't come with a stand. buying a cellphone and doesn't come with a bluetooth headset. buying a car and complain it doesn't come with turbo system to live it up to it's full potential.

Conclusion, it is quite simple actually, you do not understand the word "ACCESSORIES".

[Ju]

I was just gonna say. Is this an advertising for stupidity ? I mean, get Socom and Eye of Judgement for about $100. Camera and Headset for about the same price, and basically 2 games for free. (BTW. You can play any online game with the camera's build in mic instead of the headset).

And, if you don't like Socom, try Warhawk+Headset (not the official one, but not bad either).

[RussDeBuss]

To enjoy 360 games to full potential you need to spend another £50 on xbox live, every year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[memots]

If you have a PSeye you don't need a bluetooth headset.

The Pseye has a built-in mic and that's the only mic you need.

This article is again something that gets approve here @ N4f : News 4 Fanboy .

[prowiew]

why is it every article has to be a fanboy troll?. This guys is just posting his experience with ps3 accesories. He didnt went and try to buy 360 things!. Point is, he doesnt need to talk about 360. Only fanboys want a comparison between systems on every article.

[y0haN]

Ya Microsoft is perfect.

Paying for online, RRoD, Paying for wireless, masses of racist morons on the microphone.. no thanks.

[phosphor112]

I got a 320G HDD for my ps3 for 86 bucks, plus shipping making it around 95 USD.

[DavidMacDougall]

RROD
DVD9

[Pennywise]

pp
PoG
Mart
Crab
Jason 360
Socomnick
Lobster

We are naming things wrong with the xbox, right?

[Maxned]

Too many good games...

[Pennywise]

Maxned we are talking about the 360, not the PS3 man... keep up.

EDIT: I forgot to add Blurr1111111 to that list.

R&C was a good game. Haze, not so much... but that isnt sony's fault - 3rd party flop.

[BLUR111]

like what ratchet & clank or haze?? umm no the XBOX360 he was talking about

[Xlll]

Too Human
NG2

[BADJOYSTICK]

No Hard Disk

No BluRay

No Rechargeable Controllers

[BLUR111]

Play and charge kit for 360.

No blu ray for game installs and bad frame rate and slow development and delays for games.

and Hard disk ..lol STFU

[elorm9]

You gotta buy the P&C thing seperately. We get to charge our controllers straight out of the box

[NickIni]

You forgot:

No built in Wireless adaptor, and at £60, it's a ridiculous rip off.

Costs to go online

[ultimolu]

...*sighs*
Here we go again.

[HighDefinition]

More drama than a Soap Opera!

[ultimolu]

...*pulls out a bag of popcorn and hands you some*
Lol @ the disagrees.

Seriously, people need to knock it off already. The PS3 bashing needs to end.

[GWAVE]

@ ultimolu

But when your system keeps Red Ringing, the quality of your exclusives is dropping, Blu Ray keeps eating more of the market, Microsoft keeps nickel-and-dimeing you, and the PS3 keeps increasing in market share, you HAVE to bash in order to keep yourself sane. Either that, or use arbitrary review scores and Metacritic to "prove" that your system is superior.

:)

[Jamie Foxx]

the lead on the pseye is long due to eye of judgement and its stand...

[SaiyanFury]

Just a little person view here but...this is the first complaint I've seen about the PS Eye. I have one myself and it's always worked just fine for me. I stand it on top of my 61" DLP and sit back on my couch and it captures images just fine.

[LiquifiedArt]

But i use the PSEye mostly because its easier to use. Mostly for Casual Play. I just make sure my game volume is low and my VOIP volume is high (to hear other people).

Works great for me.

[ThanatosDMC]

Yeah, whoever wrote the article is a bias and ignorant. If he just wants to talk and take advantage of the camera. He should just get the PS3 Eye since it works extremely well for talking. I use it rather than my bluetooth especially if i forgot to charge it or if im using it on my phone instead.

This guy is just trying to find some fault.

[Danja]

This article is really irrelevant...but w/e..

[pilotpistolpete]

bit off topic, but can you really use any webcam for say, LBP? I know the game explicitly says to use the pseye, but you guys above have got me wondering...

[Pennywise]

That is what I heard.

[Ugly American]

You can make your own stickers. Wheeeee!

[ReTarDedFisHy]

lmao. This guy is an idiot. But isn't totally wrong.

[Socomer 1979]

He should have bought the EYE OF JUDGEMENT & SOCOM or WARHAWK!
VALUE PACKAGES WITH COOL GAMES THAT ARE SUPPORTED.

I personally love EYE of JUDGEMENT.

[cliffbo]

so Sony give us a headset that everyone who reviews it says it's perfect and they also give us PSEye which is capable of making games like EYEpet, and their console has Cell/Blu-ray (the format of the future and now) and a .3% failure rate with no external power supply, free online and capable of taking any sata drive, they have created OLED, organically lit electronic diodes, that use less power and show a clearer picture... and they cut corners?! yeah right

[Socomer 1979]

THE EYE OF JUDGEMENT PACKAGE & SOCOM CONFRONTATION or EVEN WARHAWK Sells Both ITEMS WITH GAMES FOR THE ULTIMATE VALUE PACKAGE, DUH!

[GWAVE]

Two perfect examples of the problem Microsoft has:

1. A red light
2. two red lights next to the first red light

OR

1. Gears of Glitch 2
2. Fable 2: Glitchfest

OR

1. 2008's lack of AAA exclusives
2. 2009's lack of AAA exclusives

I could go all day. Hey! Maybe I should write articles like this guy...

[Liquid_Ocelot]

off-topic:
omg i choked when i read that hahahahahahahahahahaha bubbles

on-topic:
i have the headset(my 1st headset ever) and i must say that the audio's awesome i've never tried the other ones(warhawk's headset=jabra) but i've read and heard that the PS headset's the best. gotta love that HQ Mode baby :D

[GamingGeekPS3360]

You are right HD..you can use a 360 Cam on PS3...I used my 360 Cam on Facebreaker(demo) for PS3....you can use any webcab..USB

@ Horny Melon your article sucks..by the way..you really do not need the webcam to fully enjoy LBP.....I fully enjoyed the LBP beta..just the way it was..hell I did not need the full game.

R2 you do need a mic to enjoy Co-op and MP..but you can Buy ANY Bluetooth headset to work on your PS3....

[Pennywise]

I got The warhawk jabra mic when I first got the PS3 for $8.00 on ebay. This guy is a hack. Variety should hire him to write for them.

[Socomer 1979]

why pay full price for accesories by themselves when they both come with games?

PSEYE - The EYE oF JUDGEMENT.

Officical Blutooth headset - Socom Confrontation.

Regular headset - WARHAWK

Right gaming Geek, This aint no xbox360! you can put any usb accesory into ps3. Anything. Its called comparative shopping. Find your own dam price.

[I_LOVE_MYSELF]

where to begin?

SCEE is a good start
Lack of universal headset
Failing to meet promisies (seriously ps home oct 2007 wtf)
Lack of advertising
Initial price (but now it is VERY good value for money)
The inferior multi plat games

theres a few... I could easily make a list for the other consoles starting the lists with RROD and Casual Games but that would be off topic...

Every console has flaws... Sony is working hard to sort theirs out it would seem

[NipGrip]

Lack of universal headset.. Yeah, it's called ANY bluetooth headset. Not a proprietary one. ANY $20 bluetooth headset or even a USB headset will work.

Failing to meet "promisies"? Which corporation out there meets 100% of their promises? Let me give you one. The 360 weas supposed to launch with internal liquid cooling, yet was taken out at the 11th hour. At least when Sony doesn't meet a "promise" (I never remember them saying "WE PROMISE!") the damned console doesn't have a high failure rate.

Inferior multiplat games? You mean like GTA4 which Rockstar themselves claimed the 360 hampered their development? Or maybe games like Rage where id had to alter the game to accommodate for the 360. Oh.. You mean minor things like some blurrier textures, slightly longer load times, installs (which MS now has copied), I gotcha.. minor "issues".

None of those sound like "problems" to me that mean anything at all. If this is what worries you during the day, you need a hobby or experience life a bit more as I am sure there's more to worry about.

[XxZxX]

-GametimeUK-, you sir do not own a PS3 and are not well-informed.
in case you wonder why, NipGrip has the detail. Not Universal Bluetooth.. hahah thanks for a good laugh.

[CliffyBs15YearOldBF]

A universal headset boxed with every ps3 would work wonders for psn. Good quality and you dont have to worry about spending money buying it seperate. Plus much more people would be encouraged to talk. His points are all valid and you guys are fanboys to think that he doesnt make sense

[Adamalicious]

"Deadspace, Bioshock, LittleBigPlanet, Resistance 2, and Fallout 3. Resistance 2 and LBP in particular simply cannot be played to their full potential without the required accessories"

Seriously? Deadspace? Bioshock? Required? Don't you mean optional? Fail? ;)

[Pennywise]

Why do you need a camera or a mic for those single player games?

[Horny Melon]

you totally missed the period at the end of the sentence that YOU quoted.

[Fishy Fingers]

Not Nintendo and Microsoft then?

[DiabloRising]

*yawn*

[aiphanes]

They will before than new game PS Eye Pet comes out.

If they want to be like apple they have to upgrade their products at least once a year.

[Socomer 1979]

bioshock? Deadspace? LOL!

What do you need a mic & a camera for with those games? lol!

[NipGrip]

Even get APPROVED?? Ahh thus is the problem with "democratic" type systems.. The majority or people that think a certain way can run the site. Hate the PS3? Simple, just accept any garbage article written for the site. It could be nothing but a blogger post full of nothing but "PS3 and Sony Sucks! PS3 and Sony Sucks! PS3 and Sony Sucks!" over and over and it would get accepted until a worthy moderator denies it totally and dumps it in the garbage. Take whoever has accepted trash articles like this and their acceptance rights away please. Not because it's got to do with Sony or the PS3 but because it's plain and flat out garbage.

[DiabloRising]

If I cared enough about the trolls here, I'd write up an article about how they are getting RAPED on HDD costs for their precious $199 console... 20gb eh? It is kinda awesome having a 320gb PS3.

Thankfully, I don't care enough.

[Adamalicious]

You know that if you and 5 others report the story as "Lame" it will be failed right?

[Socomer 1979]

What else does the xbox360 have? im not into gears2. I rather play MGO instead.

[TheMART]

Well 125 games from 8 out of 10 and up. That means from good to freaking great, compared to only 82 on the PS3. And don't start about the 360 being out a year longer. Doesn't matter. It has more games that are rated 8 and up period. More to play thats good and great.

1 Grand Theft Auto IV 2008 98
2 BioShock 2007 96
3 Orange Box, The 2007 96
4 Gears of War 2006 94
5 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, The 2006 94
6 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 2007 94
7 Halo 3 2007 94
8 Gears of War 2 2008 93
9 Fallout 3 2008 93
10 Braid 2008 93
11 Rock Band 2 2008 92
12 Guitar Hero II 2007 92
13 Rock Band 2007 92
14 Mass Effect 2007 91
15 Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2006 90
16 Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2 2008 90
17 Forza Motorsport 2 2007 90
18 Fable II 2008 90
19 Call of Duty 2 2005 89
20 Rez HD 2008 89
21 Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 2007 89
22 Portal: Still Alive 2008 89
23 Dead Space 2008 89
24 Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas 2006 89
25 Burnout Revenge 2006 89
26 NHL 09 2008 89
27 Virtua Fighter 5 2007 89
28 Burnout Paradise 2008 88
29 FIFA Soccer 09 2008 88
30 Project Gotham Racing 3 2005 88
31 Ikaruga 2008 88
32 Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords 2007 87
33 GRID 2008 87
34 Elder Scrolls IV: Shivering Isles, The 2007 86
35 Guitar Hero World Tour 2008 86
36 Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2005 86
37 Fight Night Round 3 2006 86
38 Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 2007 86
39 skate 2007 86
40 Elder Scrolls IV: Knights of the Nine, The 2006 86
41 Project Gotham Racing 4 2007 85
42 NHL 08 2007 85
43 Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock 2007 85
44 Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Double Agent 2006 85
45 Soulcalibur IV 2008 85
46 Dead or Alive 4 2005 85
47 Far Cry 2 2008 85
48 Pure 2008 85
49 Dead Rising 2006 85
50 Madden NFL 08 2007 85
51 F.E.A.R. 2006 85
52 Bionic Commando Rearmed 2008 85
53 NBA 2K9 2008 85
54 Bomberman Live 2007 84
55 Viva Pinata 2006 84
56 Civilization Revolution 2008 84
57 NBA 2K7 2006 84
58 Devil May Cry 4 2008 84
59 Mega Man 9 2008 84
60 Madden NFL 09 2008 84
61 Tiger Woods PGA Tour 09 2008 84
62 Pac-Man Championship Edition 2007 83
63 N+ 2008 83
64 DiRT: Colin McRae Off-Road 2007 83
65 Need for Speed Most Wanted 2005 83
66 Duke Nukem 3D 2008 83
67 Crackdown 2007 83
68 Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo HD Remix 2007 83
69 Battlefield: Bad Company 2008 83
70 NCAA Football 09 2008 83
71 Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas 2 2008 82
72 Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise 2008 82
73 Unreal Tournament 3 2008 82
74 Darkness, The 2007 82
75 Test Drive Unlimited 2006 82
76 Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 2006 82
77 Hitman: Blood Money 2006 82
78 Prince of Persia Classic 2007 82
79 Call of Duty 3 2006 82
80 Football Manager 2007 2006 82
81 Castle Crashers 2008 82
82 Command & Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars 2007 82
83 Midnight Club: Los Angeles 2008 82
84 Saints Row 2 2008 82
85 Sonic the Hedgehog 2 2007 82
86 FIFA Soccer 08 2007 82
87 College Hoops 2K7 2006 82
88 Tales of Vesperia 2008 82
89 Condemned: Criminal Origins 2005 81
90 Tony Hawk's Project 8 2006 81
91 NBA 2K8 2007 81
92 Football Manager 2006 2006 81
93 Assassin's Creed 2007 81
94 Saints Row 2006 81
95 LEGO Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy 2006 81
96 NCAA Football 08 2007 81
97 Sensible World of Soccer 2007 81
98 Uno 2006 81
99 Rockstar Games presents Table Tennis 2006 81
100 Ninja Gaiden II 2008 81
101 Condemned 2: Bloodshot 2008 81
102 Poker Smash 2008 81
103 College Hoops 2K8 2007 81
104 Catan 2007 81
105 NBA 2K6 2005 81
106 Perfect Dark Zero 2005 81
107 WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2007 2006 81
108 Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts 2008 81
109 Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation 2007 80
110 Bully: Scholarship Edition 2008 80
111 Madden NFL 07 2006 80
112 NBA Street Homecourt 2007 80
113 Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07 2006 80
114 Tomb Raider: Legend 2006 80
115 Peter Jackson's King Kong 2005 80
116 Moto GP 06 2006 80
117 LEGO Star Wars: The Complete Saga 2007 80
118 Virtua Tennis 3 2007 80
119 Cloning Clyde 2006 80
120 Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 2007 80
121 UEFA Euro 2008 2008 80
122 Doom 2006 80
123 Winning Eleven: Pro Evolution Soccer 2007 2007 80
124 Tom Clancy's EndWar 2008 80
125 FlatOut: Ultimate Carnage 2007 80

[ReTarDedFisHy]

Most, and I mean MOST of those are multi-plats.
Some sites don't review both platforms, so scores will be different.

[TheMART]

No good full functioning online with cross game friendlist/invites/chat/video/ party's. Anything that make online gaming more then that into a social gaming platform.

Having Home aka Vaporware

Needing to install every freaking game so the 40GB PS3's need a 100 bucks extra for a larger HDD, even the 80GB PS3's run full in no time

95% of the multiplatform games suck on the PS3. Flopstation 3

If the controller batteries die... You're facked. You can't change them. $$$$$ need to buy a 60 bucks complete controller again

[Pennywise]

Marts MS support check must of arrived in the mail. Good to see you back on duty.... Missed your unvalidated spin and BS PR nonsense.

You seem like you could possibly have a working brain under that thick skull. One day you will wake up and realize 360 has held back all multi-plats.

[ReTarDedFisHy]

Mart:

"I'm an xbot. And I only boast multi-platform titles which the PS3 also has. I know the 360 being superior is a thing of the past. Man, the PS3's multiplatforms are starting to look better than the 360s like Dead Space (man, I wish the 360 had full 128-bit HDR lighting, now I get half-assed lighting), GTA IV (pop-ins and glitches surround me) and Burnout Paradise (I get downgraded crash sequences :'(. Hell, the only difference with Far Cry 2 is that the 360 has 10% clouds, but I avoid this by saying that every single screenie is the dynamic weather acting up.

And I know that Fallout 3 looks exactly the same on PS3, and I'm still shouting glitches on PS3 even though I also have problems with my 360 as well. The PS3 is gonna get a patch to solve those problems which leaves me with more problems than the PS3 version. I still rant and rant about the PS3's DEMO of BioShock looking worse than the 360s final. Even though theyre getting a fix to look better than the 360s, plus exclusive dlc."

[Pennywise]

Horny, you have been on a fine line with me with your bs blogs and your own submissions... but with this you have lost all respect from me.

It might not matter to you, you might just log on and attack N4G users for bashing your horrible article... but the fact is you are just as bad as silogon.

I got the eye in EOJ pack for my Bday... if not it is $24.00 alone. The mic is $49.99. I got it with Socom for $63.00. I would of paid 60 bucks for socom alone... so I will do with your article the same thing that I do with toilet paper after a heavy lunch.

PS - Bad form to write and submit your article and then fight with the N4G users. Makes you look bad.

[bunbun777]

Well- I have to hand it to this HM- he had to know he was putting his neck on the chopping block with these claims. And while it never hurts to aspire for more, I think this article was a bit shortsighted and unfortunately a tad nonfactual.

The biggest complaints it seems with what is submitted as news and what isn't could possibly be alleviated with either tags that show respective rankings of "trustworthiness" or we could try to rate the sources ahead of time, but seriously- I can't complain to much about the format- Removing everything to only keep what a few deem relevant seems almost like throwing out too many babies--- these may be editorials --but do we really need less video game related articles? More!!

[Horny Melon]

it is called being truthful. Would you rather we all log on to our own separate accounts and do it from behind a mask? There is nothing wrong with defending a point of view from someone being ignorant and dishonest. We have stat tracking. We can match up hit times and length of time on page to post times here....when there are not that many hits from a single palce on a single post. That guy posted his comment 30 seconds after we got 1 hit that lasted 5 seconds on the page. Then after I posted a retort we then got that same IP adress hitting again, this time 3 minutes. 25 seconds after that he posted again here claiming he did in fact read the article the first time. google analytics is a wonderful thing.

[pp]

Good (Socomer 1979) we don't need droids like you on xbox live.

[4cough]

Honestly the the PS3 smells ,FACT

[Socomer 1979]

i bet he wishes he could take back everything he wrote. He just confirmed his own stupidity. gears of war tends to make gamers dumber than usual i guess.

Welcome to the real world buddy! Ha HA!
Bookmarked for ultra - Dumb blogger.

[Axe99]

As noted on Horny's actual site, I’ve got two PS3s and two Playstation Eyes, and I can tell you they’re good pieces of kit - using the playstation eye for video chat (it handles both the audio and video well) is a breeze, and things like Eyecreate are a good bit of (free) fun. It also works very well with the downloadable motion-controlled games such as Operation: Creature Feature and Tower of Topoq. I’m not sure where the author draws their experience, but they don’t even discuss the built-in (and highly capable) microphones, or very good light sensitivity (for a consumer webcam) - indeed, the only thing they do is whinge about it’s compatibility with LBP when it sounds like they should be waiting until the confirmed tool to import images from the hard drive (for LBP) is released. And, as noted above, plugging a USB cord into the _back_ of a PS3 is quite an achievement! On the other hand, the USB points at the front are not affected by the PS3’s fan (and not too many people have fans blowing straight onto their home entertainment setups, unless they’re trying to keep an X360 alive).

All in all, an averagely written (which is actually fairly good for the internet) but poorly argued and terribly researched article.

[R2-JD]

Quoted from article: "If there is any one thing to complain about it is the ridiculously short USB cable. This thing is tiny, measures about 4 inches, and isn’t long enough to plug into the back of your PS3 and sit anywhere accessible."

The PS3 has a USB port in the back? Mine doesn't. Wish it did though.

I must say this is my only complaint about the headset is the short cable. But it isn't a huge issue as you can use the cable for the controller as well.

Other than that this headset is incredibly good! Best $10 I have ever spent. My local Toys R Us had the Socom headset bundle on sale for $34.97 (which was a huge error, it should have been just the game itself) so I bought it for the headset, sold the unopend game for $25 and voila, Sony headset for $10 (+taxes).

JD

[bunbun777]

"I must say this is my only complaint about the headset is the short cable. But it isn't a huge issue as you can use the cable for the controller as well."

Bubble

[mugoldeneagle03]

That you guys were too slow to catch the PS EYE on Amazon's lightning deal last week for $20...

Or that you weren't smart enough to buy the Socom/PS Headset bundle, which would've made the headset $20...

That's:

1) Socom Confrontation
2) PS Eye
3) Official Sony Bluetooth Headset

= $80.

[tmoneymill]

am i wrong

[Drekken]

Exactly what I just posted below. What a tool this guy is.

[James Vanderbeek]

freaking cheap as hell and worth it.. I got the head set for 20 bucks with socom.. Great F'ING deals if you ask me..

Socom = awesome game i already put 10 hours in just 2 night.
Eyecam = already made a porn with my ex.
head set = freaking awesome with a mute button..

[DiabloRising]

Pics or it didn't happen Vanderbeek! ;-)

[Reibooi]

Personally I don't like the Apple comparison. I know alot of people who hate Apple because of the attitude they have about being better then everything else and what not.

As far as the PSeye is concerned they did the best they could to provide a decent camera in a range that isn't extreamly over the top in terms of pricing. A top of the line camera that would have a perfect picture would cost quite a bit of money and almost no one would be willing to pay for it.

[Drekken]

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG

PSeye = $24.00 mic and camera. Camera and microphone. Talk and take pictures for $66.00 less than this guy is advertising. Its one thing to blog wrong info. It is another thing to not know how to shop.

[LethalToxins]

I didn't read but the first paragraph, so I'll only comment on that. What does it matter about the mic when you can use any blutooth? I use the Motorola I got with my Razr. And you don't have to have the eye to play LBP--I had plenty of fun playing it w/o the eye. ~shrug~ Everyone's gotta have something to complain about, I guess.

[Stryfeno2]

I already knew Sony's problem...This why I didn't get fooled of buying a PS3.

[BrianC6234]

These idiots who set up Websites and complain about Sony sure are getting tiring. Just more nitpicking over a nonissue. He can't afford a cheap USB extension cable or new longer cable?

[Snukadaman_]

typical horsesh*t article......this is one of those..."look on the bright side" stories...lol.

[sloth3395]

They want to talk about the extra cost of getting a mic and eye cam as if its a bad thing. But what about all the extra stuff the 360 needs like a HDD, extra for live, all the fans you need so it wont overheat, the waiting time it takes to get your system back when you get the RROD.

[qwertyuiopasdfghjkl]

It's mind boggling how much stuff the PS3 is capable of doing. There are big things Sony got right, and tons of little things. But like all things in this world, it falls short of being perfect. A few things I think would definitely be useful for the PS3 are as followed... most are just nit picking, but all are very much welcomed.

1. An official "Hardcore" PS3 bundle would be nice for potential buyers. This would include the official headset and a game like R2 or KZ2.

2. 1080p support standard. I keep picking up PS3 games that cannot output in 1080p. The PS3 doesn't have an upscaling chip like the 360, so this would have to be promised by developers.

3. Rating sort system for Music content. I remember spending awhile creating a playlist with my favorite songs, only to see it disappear later after I updated the firmware. If a rating value was added to each mp3, I could easily sort the XMB to show 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, and unrated song folders.

4. A skip button for scrolling XMB items. Pressing R2 or L2 would jump through the list quicker. A simple addition that would make me happy lol.

5. Redone XMB graphic. Yes it is nice looking, but the wave graphic needs to be scraped. Even when you have a wallpaper, it still loads the wave graphic before your background image.

6. XMB support during video playback. This is very much needed. I watched a lot of DVDs on my 360, and it was always cool to message a friend during my movie. Multitasking ya know.

7. PS button does more than opening the XMB, after receiving a message, if you press the PS button, it automatically jumps to the message... which leaves me to my next point.

8. Cross game chat or phone calls. Whether you're in the XMB, watching a DVD, playing SP, or MP. You see the message subject pop up during your game, it says "Dead Space = Fun?". You then press the PS button and read the rest of the message asking why your homie should pick up Dead Space. You back out of the message and select the "Call Friend" option. (insert ringing sound) ... he sees "Incoming call from SilentShank", he presses the PS button, the screen turns black with the text "Accept Call" with two options, Yes and No. After agreeing, we are now talking seamlessly.

9. Last but not least... more avatar options! Why has this been overlooked? It simply boggles the mind why we have a bunch of really lame avatars. Custom avatars would be best. You simply upload a picture and Sony approves them. 24 hours later you have a brand new custom avatar. Most likely a giant ant baby... probably nourishing himself with trains.

But hey, I'm just nitpicking here, the PS3 already does a lot of things exponentially better than the competition, so it's safe to say, as long as Sony keeps up the support by releasing updates that add any kind of improvement, the PS3 will still be my console of choice.

[Axe99]

You've got some good suggestions there, silentshank - clearly a seasoned PS3 user!

[plain rice]

Horny Melon is getting owned by the commenter's on N4G. I highly suggest he never write a blog article again.

"Deadspace, Bioshock, LittleBigPlanet, Resistance 2, and Fallout 3. Resistance 2 and LBP in particular simply cannot be played to their full potential without the required accessories."

You mentioned Deadspace, Bioshock, and F3 not being able to be played to their full potential? You must be retarded or on crack. Those are single player games. GTFO with your anti Sony antics. You just voided your entire article with that one line. Do a little research next time because even LBP and R2 could be played fully without those "optional" accessories. LOL

[Horny Melon]

ROFL!

The rear ps3 usb comes from a mod. http://www.youtube.com/watc... So we don't have cords dangling in front of the entertainment stand that can be caught on passer-bys pulling things onto the floor. Done for us by a video game store

See the period after Fallout 3? That means the end of a sentence. The following sentence lists TWO games that need peripherals that are needed. Yes you need a headset for resistance 2 to be an effective team player in co-op and 60 person online. Yes you need a camera to reach FULL potential of LBP.

The other half of you are suggesting using OTHER branded products which defeats the whole purpose of an article talking about the lack of quality consistency in Sony products.

I now see the reason why people call N4G a fanboy haven.

This article was not even about the PS3 or the price of said accessories. It was about the lack of consistent product quality coming from Sony despite their prices and attitude. the two were examples....you get a kick ass headset that is a little on the expensive side but worth it. On the other hand you have a garbage camera, no better than the one you get for free, for signing up for internet service, for about the same price.

Most of all none of you bothered to read any history at the website to see we are very pro PS3 (due to harddrive and high capacity optical disk) and not so much for the 360 (due to lack of HDD and use of DVD). Never in my life have I seen so many people so wrong at once, by their own doing.

FYI to the fanboys. Google Analytics shows 2,500 hits from N4G with an average time on site of 6 seconds. So all of you are colossally wrong becomes 90% of you didn't RTFA.

[Xbots are pathetic]

BULLSHIT

[SSCOOLCHEA]

sure loves his gears of war 2 . Hope he buys it when it comes out .

[user3915800]

PS3 Its not that bad, just the software environment its awful, I mean here its an update to the screw up upgrade from last week and the extras they just simply not worth a dime (eye toy and the rest of the Bs given for purchase ie. controller).

[andron]

It would press the price of the console up if they included those. Since you can use any Usb camera and any Bluetooth headset many wouldn't need it either.

If you do want/need an official Bluetooth headset or an PS Eye you can get them separately or in a bundle with a game. Again Sony's intention is giving the consumer options, not telling them what to buy...

[Enigma_2099]

WHY DO YOU NEED A CAMERA AND HEADSET TO FULLY ENJOY THESE GAMES?!?!?! ALL THEY ALLOW YOU TO DO IS VIOLATE PEOPLE'S EARHOLES AND LOOK LIKE A DOUCHE WHILE DOI....

... oh.

[lost2]

RROD

[lelik]

article is retarded why are we even arguing over this

[GarandShooter]

I have the PSEye and use it alot for video chat and it's fine. I also use it for in game chat on games like LBP, where chat is for fun, and not team communication/coordination. I have not yet attempted to capture an image for LBP, so I can't comment on that from personal experience. However, after playing user levels for hours and hours, I can say that I've never seen a user created sticker and thought 'Look at that low res, highly pixelated, poor color accuracy sticker. What a loser!' I also wasn't expecting the same quality I get from my 8 megapixel Nikon camera.

[kesvalk]

when i saw the title of the article i thought "oh no, another of these articles!"

but it's strange how these articles just shifted to PS3, they were exclusive to Wii some time ago...

anyway, if you can use another headset or another webcam, then you don't need to buy the one from sony. It's normal some products being crappier than others, you just don't buy it...

on a side note: i really hope for a headset after wiispeak get lauched too... Mario kart would be awesome when you can speak with your team in a battle game...

[blakstarz]

This is a dumb article...you don't need either accessory to play the games....it may heighten the experience a bit...but it not a mandatory thing....

[kesvalk]

uhhh it's exactly what is written there, if you want to play the games with everything it have to offer, you will need the accessories...

[Hercules]

well i dont have the pseye, but i have a motorola bluetooth for $20...and if i am not mistaken, the 360 vision is 79.99 alone (maybe with from Live cards) and the wireless headset is $59.99, please correct me if i am wrong, im not a fanboy, but just dont be bias

[cantfindaname08]

Your article is not perfect but it does have it's pros and cons. Anyway, Sony's products are usually high priced because most of the time they are good. About PsEye, it might be the best in the business.