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Gran Turismo Sport Has Spent Two Years Adding Great Stuff For Free

When Gran Turismo Sport launched in October 2017, it was easy to regard it with suspicion. Despite being the first—and at this rate, perhaps only—Gran Turismo game on the PlayStation 4, it lacked the numeral that would’ve clearly signaled it as the next step in one of the longest-running platform-exclusive series in video games. Why Sport and not 7? Add to that Sport’s nearly exclusive focus on online play, and the fact that it has significantly fewer cars and tracks than competing driving simulators like Forza Motorsport 7 or even previous Gran Turismo games, and Sport felt like a step back at launch, even as it maintained developer Polyphony Digital’s signature level of realism and quality.

IRetrouk1836d ago

Still playing this game from launch, some of the best physics in a sim, love the feel of the cars, even better with a wheel, cant wait to see what's next.

sinjonezp1835d ago

Only thing I wish they add is more customization. Racing modifications, body kits, actual under the hood changes...wings, etc

IRetrouk1835d ago

Yeah I didnt like that they made the engine upgrades the way they did, you can still go in and upgrade and tinker, including you're aerodynamics etc, it's just not as in depth as the older games, or as prominent, probably done to keep the cars fair online, not ideal though, I really do enjoy sport, just hoping for a proper gt next.

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timotim1836d ago

That's because the game launch with the least amount of content the franchise has ever had before. That was always going to be the case because its a GT as a service game, which means content was to be added as time went on. No way they could sell additional content (even though they did add MTs to it post launch already) to gamers until they at least provided them with a full game's worth of content. Can you imagine the backlash of them trying to sell gamers more paid content when the game launched with so little at full price?

IRetrouk1836d ago (Edited 1836d ago )

It's not gt as a service game, it's an online focused gt, we knew this from the start, it focused on being a competitive online esports title, not on being a service, the game launched with plenty of content, having less than other games dont mean Jack, especialy when they were so clear and open about what we were getting, what it had was fantastic, how you can say it launched with little content? How is just under 200 of the best detailed cars, and 40 of some of the best looking tracks this gen little content? Look how impressed digital foundry was with it, the games amazing to play.
I dont see the issue with the Mts, you can buy some cars for real money, so what? Did it change payout rates? Nope, did it change the cars you can win? Nope, did it change car prices? Nope, just an option, like in the forzas and other racers, your talk of them charging for dlc is silly, it's never been a conversation, you've listed plenty you dont like about the game, what's some of the things you did like when you played it?

timotim1836d ago

I see all the ingredients of a GTService game

MTs throughout
Online only saves
Online only progression
Updating the game with free content as time goes on, while being very lite on content at launch

And for the record, I'm not talking about what I don't like about the game...in fact, I'm not talking about the quality of the game at all.You misunderstand. I'm talking about the reason behind the updated content in the game over time. I'm not making a judgment on the game, I'm making an observation.

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IRetrouk1835d ago (Edited 1835d ago )

The content has been planned from before launch though, kaz mentions it in many interviews before the game released, the game is aimed at the esports market, has nothing to do with being a game as a service, and again the mts have changed absolutely nothing with the game, you can buy some cars that's as far as it goes, and as mentioned, plenty of other racing games also offer this option, just under 200 cars and 40 tracks is not light on content, just less than some other games, I could understand you taking issue with the things you listed if you played the game, cause some are frustrating at times, but if you haven't or dont play it, then I really dont understand why you are here downplaying it.

timotim1835d ago

@IR

Planned before launch huh? Well does that explain why GTS was delayed multiple times? I remember the game was suppose to originally launch in 2016...imagine how much content would have been included had it hit that original year. Nothing you say makes sense. It was delayed because it wasn't enough content...fast forward a year later and it still wasn't enough. Its one of the main reasons reviewers knocked it.
https://www.gamespot.com/ar...

You saying that GTS is aimed at esports does not negate anything...so is Fortnite...yet Fortnite is still a service game...so is GTS...they are managing the game exactly as one.

@Tree
Cheaters huh? So you mean to tell me that like ALL past GT games in the franchise, I couldn't play a simple career mode offline by myself, without being online because of cheaters? Sounds like excuses to me. And PC was the 1st game in the franchise made by a new team...of course that gets a pass. We are talking about GT here though...compare the content in GTS to its OWN franchise history and yes, the content was lite indeed. Keep in mind that GTS was in development for almost 5 years before its release.

IRetrouk1835d ago (Edited 1835d ago )

You have Google, you can find plenty of interviews before the launch that mentions dlc, like it or not, the dlc plan was mentioned multiple times.
We dont know what they delayed it for, it could have been the online code, the championships and cups not being ready, bugs or anything, you assume based on nothing.
You say there wasnt enough but that's false, I've played it from day one and it had more than enough to do, well over 100 hours into the game before any update, what was I playing if there wasnt enough?, I still haven't collected all the original cars let alone the dlc.
I can see now you have not played the game and are basically in parrot mode, the single player stuff was added after because there was never ment to be one, you have to save online, yeah it's not ideal but it's far from a major issue, as in almost non existent, then again, online multiplayer game...kinda need to keep the saves from being messed with no?
As said previously it's an online competitive racer, not a single player game, and it was never aimed at that, so to expect it was silly, again, poly let everyone know exactly what this game was.
You make me laugh man, you excuse PC for being a new team, a new team!! Lol even though slightly mad studios has been around from 2009 and have made numerous PC racing sims, along with those two small EA titles, you know, need for speed shift 1 and 2, all the while forgetting that poly started from scratch with sport, new engine, new physics, new code, no legacy anything, so why does PC get a pass but not gt sport?
Yeah its compared to it's own main titles, yet it's an online spin off reviewed as if it were gt7. If you dont play the game, and dont plan on playing it why are you here downplaying it, you are literally telling people who have played the game and find it perfectly fine they are wrong, even though you have not played it...madness.

timotim1835d ago

So if they charged for car packs and tracks post launch after launching with so little content and a full price tag...do you think gamers would have viewed that position in a positive light?

IRetrouk1835d ago (Edited 1835d ago )

Big if considering it was never in the conversation, gamers in general? How would I know? Be better asking people who play the game. I am personally happy with the amount of cars and tracks I got, I understood the lower numbers were due to the game being a ground up build, I also understood it wasnt ment to be gt 7, also read up on the game and knew what I was buying, I have never ever bought a gt game because of car numbers, it's always been because it feels best on track, especially with a wheel, if dlc had of been charged then I would have happily bought it, just like I did with every forza and forza horizion, evey need for speed I bought, PC 2, numerous other games...

timotim1835d ago

Hmmmm...I don't think you're being honest sir. I think you are defending the game simply because you like it, but can't see past these issues because of it. In your opinion, the game had good content at launch...over 100 hours on base game content you say...yet lack of content was reviewers main knock against the game. You say its not a service game...yet they treat it exactly like one with MTs, and always requiring you to be online for save and progression, while you choose to brush those facts off. I cant take you serious enough to have this conversation with. No matter what, you will try and paint a rosey picture regardless...this is despite the industry not agreeing with you on these points.

And once and for all...just to settle this aspect of your argument that always comes into play for some reason...stop acting as if you know that I've never played the game before...because you clearly do not. It is true that I do not own it...it is also true that I would never buy it...but that doesn't mean that I've never played it...because I have.

IRetrouk1835d ago (Edited 1835d ago )

Lol why are you so hung up on some reviews opinions? You say you have played the game yet use reviews experiences to make ur points? Yeah some of the industry didnt agree, some did, not every review reviewed it like it was ment to be gt 7, that's changes nothing of what I say or my experience with the game, if you played the game then you would know its quality, also surely you didnt unlock every car with your playtime? So how can it have no content if you didnt even try to see it all, What's your psn name? I'd like to see what your times are etc, seeing as you have played it, your times will be there. Then I can atleast take what you say serious, or atleast a bit more serious. I'm not defending it just because I like it, although that's kinda what we do for things we like, I'm defending my own experience with the game, yes over 100 hours of playtime before an update, go back far enough in my comment history and you will see me commenting about it back then when I reached it, you just parrot what others say with no real input about the game at all, i ignore stuff? I've answered every point you made, you ignore plenty, from the brand new engine and code to the fact it's an online only game that was planned that way from the start, an online only game will have an online only save system, it sucks but it's done for a reason, something you dont want to listen to, the mts are in almost all racing games, and change nothing, something else you dont want to hear, lol take me serious?? With those previous comments about slightly mad studios being new, listing the same things from negative reviews over and over as if it makes it a bad game?, and for the record, no, I dont think you have played it not even a little.
All that and it's still the best sim this gen, cant wait for the next one, can only be better.

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timotim1835d ago

Forgive me but, I can't take your own opinion on this over that of the dozens of reviews that's out there. You ask me why worry about reviewers...yet you want me to take your personal review as fact...very ironic.

And it is YOU who is false here. Without bringing in my own personal opinion...GTS launched with very light content COMPARED to past versions of GT in its OWN franchise...this is fact. Regardless of how you may feel. Just because YOU personally enjoyed the experience and put in 100 hours into the base game doesn't change that. One could have put 100 hours into Sea of Thieves at launch...that wouldn't change the fact that it still launched lite on the content does it...same for GTS. I'm sorry but it is fact that reviewers docked GTS for lack of content in their reviews. Again, I'm not speaking on the overall quality of the game which you and others keep confusing...but GTS could not have charge for car packs and tracks after it was known of how little content their was COMPARED to past games in the franchise as well as other leaders in the genre.

Im not here to tell you that you cant enjoy the game...im not here to tell you that the game is trash...that's up to YOU to decide...clearly you love it...however...content was not abundant at launch which is a direct reason why it is rated as thee lowest GT in history...its a direct reason why they never charged for extra content. Facts.

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IRetrouk1835d ago (Edited 1835d ago )

Lmao, back to car numbers again, like there was so little choice out of what was available
that it really affected how the game played, there was plenty to keep people collecting right up untill the first update lol, other games released with similar numbers and didnt get docked at all for it, you can make up new studio historys all you want to excuse others lol, your reasons for downplay are seriously coming off as desperate now, if you have no interest in the game why are you here arguing with people who are? Seems pointless to me, yes it was compared to past games, yet it wasnt ment to be anything like the past games... also just out of interest, who the leader in the sim racing genre? gt sport is still the highest selling sim game this gen isn't it?. nothing I've said is wrong, almost everything you have said is, or assumption at the very best, no facts at all from you, no psn name, no proof to back up anything you say, nothing constructive from you at all. The game is getting great support, and it's still going, like it or not, no matter what the reviews stated gt was a success, its sold well and is packed with players online all the time, if you really are into sims then you would be more than happy with what gt offers, that's without even going into all the online stuff that no other game does. Trying to use sea of theives as a comparison is a joke, I've played that game at launch, IR3TR0UK is my xbox live username, you can check, I have no issues proving I've played it. an open world online game with 4 hours of content before rinse and repeat sets in at launch is much much different to 172 cars and 40 tracks with a massive tutorial on how to race, followed by arcade challenges and online cups and tournaments..... just stop lol

timotim1835d ago

@IR

Car numbers is what you brought up. I'm talking about content as a whole.

Cars
Tracks
SP Career
Modes
Features

"there was plenty to keep people collecting right up untill the first update lol"

According to YOU maybe, but if a person was use to GT's SP career, they would not have though as warm of it total content as you did.

"other games released with similar numbers and didnt get docked at all for it"

According to YOU, but Forza 5 launched with very low content COMPARED to past Forza games and as a result it was one of the main reasons why Forza 5 is the lowest rated Forza in history...see the similarity?

"also just out of interest, who the leader in the sim racing genre?"

Not the point of discussion here. The purpose for my initial comment was to give reason as to WHY the free support, not to argue against its quality.

"now, if you have no interest in the game why are you here arguing with people who are?"

My intention was never to argue with anyone...you guys responded to me remember?

"gt sport is still the highest selling sim game this gen isn't it?"

Not here to talk sales. Not the purpose for my statement.

"The game is getting great support, and it's still going, like it or not, no matter what the reviews stated gt was a success"

I never said otherwise. Didn't come here to argue the success of the game, nor its quality.

"if you really are into sims then you would be more than happy with what gt offers"

Not true. Again, its not just me...many reviewers also wasn't more than happy with the game as evident by its review scores. Its the lowest rated GT for a reason...that means in fact that a lot wasn't as happy with it.

"I've answered every point you made, you ignore plenty, from the brand new engine and code to the fact it's an online only game that was planned that way from the start"

SMH...Sea of Thieves was online only planned from the start too...doesn't mean its not also a service game...a game can be both.

"Trying to use sea of theives as a comparison is a joke, I've played that game at launch, IR3TR0UK is my xbox live username, you can check, I have no issues proving I've played it. an open world online game with 4 hours of content before rinse and repeat sets in at launch is much much different to 172 cars and 40 tracks"

Actually, I bring up SoT only because it fits so well here. You claim you can prove that GTS had enough content at launch due to the amount of hours you put into the game, and due to the fact that people continue to play the game. Well SoT is also a game that had lite content at launch, yet it continues to be played by its community (more than GTS in fact) and many gamers continue to sink lots of hours into it as its one of the most played games on any platform currently. You dropped 100 hours into GTS...how about this guy that put in over 2000 hours into SoT…
https://seaofthieveshub.com...
So no...not really different at all from your own points on why GTS is a success...and yet SoT is still a online service game...just like GTS...same difference.

IRetrouk1835d ago (Edited 1835d ago )

Lmao twisting and turning as usual, I am used to gt single player lmao, that changes nothing you do make some funny stuff up, I dont expect anything less from you, i dont have to prove anything, the numbers are there for everyone to see lol, again it had plenty of content, almost 200 cars is not low, 40 tracks is also not low, no single player because it wasnt a single player game, what missing content? What missing features? It released exactly how it was announced to be releasing, with the exact features they said it would, its online modes are unlike anything done before, sea of theives had the same 3 or 4 missions before repeating at launch, how many ships was there again 2? 3? the hours came from people playing together, vs gts hours of going through the games lessons and cups etc while unlocking those cars the game has, the actual content in sea of theives vs the content in gt sport is miles apart and nothing alike, you are reaching, again in a comment section of a game you claim to have played but not liked, the game is getting free dlc support because its sold well and is popular, plus they did say from before launch a dlc plan was in place, and it had nothing to do with the car numbers as they had already informed us of the details of what the base game was coming with way before launch. the game didnt have to be supported at all but it has been, so no the reason for the support has nothing to do with how the game launched at all, and if that was your overall point then you are wrong.

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EazyC1835d ago

To be honest, GT has the most innocuous MTs I've ever seen in a game, it's just an option to buy cars you can earn right? Getting nice cars is way easier than GT 5 for example

IRetrouk1835d ago

Yeah it changed absolutely nothing, not payouts, not what cars you win, not credits, nothing, I have most of the more expensive buyable ones as winnings, so it really is just another option.

timotim1835d ago

To be honest, I only mentioned what is...not the level of intrusiveness of the MTs...only that their is MTs. What level you feel they intrude is your opinion...I have no argument against that either way.

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Imortus_san1835d ago (Edited 1835d ago )

You hit the nail in the head.

i'm going to had that GT Sport sales here very disappointing, and Sony made some aggressive "sale" price drops to 19,99 after only 6 months of game release, and close PS3 GT 6 online to lure people buy GT Sports.

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Imortus_san1835d ago (Edited 1835d ago )

@Realistic333
No offence taken, but I would never compare GTS with Sea of Thieves, complete different Franchisees with different investments, GT is a PlayStation "golden" game, Sea of Thieves is a new online game meant to boost Game Pass.

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aaronaton1836d ago

Technically the most supported game I've seen for a long long time.

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Gran Turismo Sport Has Been Delisted From PS Store

Sony Interactive Entertainment has delisted Gran Turismo Sport from the PlayStation Store as of January 1, 2024.

ApocalypseShadow156d ago

The great digital future. Where games vanish. The benefits of digital just aren't enough over physical to every buy in 100 percent. Especially when my Atari games still work and can be played to this day over 40 years later. Some of these digital games don't even last a whole generation.

purple101156d ago

But in this case everyone who has it still has it

And they unlocked single player to be allowed to progress offline

ApocalypseShadow155d ago (Edited 155d ago )

But in the case of others, they can no longer can buy it or any delisted game. Just like online only games that get their servers turned off and there's no update for offline with bots.

If you like the idea of any digital game being delisted where it's no longer available at all, then you and others are fools. What's all that presentation bullshit guys like you spew?

There should be no reason any digital game should be removed. Ever.

Bathyj155d ago

Apocalypse no one likes it. But let's be clear here.

If you own the game, you still own it. All that's happening here is they are stopped selling it.

Why? I have no clue. But it's the exact same thing if your local best buy isn't stocking the disc anymore and Sony aren't making any more. Same thing, just in the digital realm.

If you want to complain about servers for an online game being shut down, go ahead. But that's a separate topic and can happen to any online game even with a physical disc.

fan_of_gaming155d ago (Edited 155d ago )

@Bathyj "But it's the exact same thing if your local best buy isn't stocking the disc anymore and Sony aren't making any more. Same thing, just in the digital realm."

It isn't the exact same thing at all. When a game gets a physical release, it is always available even if big-box retailers aren't selling it new anymore. For example, I can go on eBay today and buy a new & sealed copy of Transformers: Fall Of Cybertron for PS3, because it once had a physical release. However I cannot buy a copy of Transformers: Fall Of Cybertron for PS4 today, because it had a digital-only release and was delisted.

If Gran Turismo Sport had a digital-only release, it would be unavailable for anyone to buy ever again. But because it had a physical release, in 5 years someone that wants to play it can still acquire it.

Cacabunga154d ago

People should stand against digitalization

purple101154d ago (Edited 154d ago )

I have only brought one or two digital games in my life
Everything I buy is physical

Often from eBay in perfect condition.
Sometimes from a online shop in uk such as

365games
Shopto.net
Simplygames
Base.com

All, who will ship disk to your door on day of release, cheaper than buying from digital store.

Then I either keep, lend, or sell. My choice

No where, did I say I support digital. And yet someone even called me a fool,
Haha
Totally misunderstood, some would say, he’s the fool

With GtSport It ISNT being taken away from anyone who already owns it. So this has all got out of hand with people not even reading the article

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DigitallyAfflicted155d ago

Maybe this will make people realise the future of digital-only games

purple101155d ago

This one won’t though
Because it’s not de-listed and taken away from you
It’s just not on sale anymore and the multiplayer will be shut down soon I reckon. It released 2017 so it’s had a fair run of 5 years online multiplayer lobbies

DigitallyAfflicted155d ago

@Purple, but it could be taken away, like p.t. Demo was, as well is taken away from anyone who didn't purchase GTsport in a digital form and yes I know we can still buy disc version and it's not a big of a deal.

My point is that you can't own something if it's not physical, with digital-only content you pay for the right to download and use and possibly in the future there will be some laws regulating you rights to it…

blackblades155d ago

I mean y'all been whining about that since the ps3 era. To this day im still able to play all the games I payed for.

ApocalypseShadow155d ago (Edited 155d ago )

It won't. Fools like purple think that just because they can still download it now, that it's safe. I've bought multiple games on console and mobile that are no longer downloadable or function. Because the game was either delisted or since it was connected to the Internet, no longer works because the servers were shut down turning those games into coasters. With no update to be able to play some games offline with bots. They're gone.

He won't get it or care until it happens to him and some of his games are delisted and removed or don't work any more even if he "bought it "

EvertonFC155d ago (Edited 155d ago )

If you don't keep your old consoles, your physical disk will be useless too. Do you think console hardware or disk drives will be around in 20 years. Good luck with that.
I'm not saying it's right btw, just pointing out to the physical crowd that digital and physical are very alike when it comes to actually being able to play the games in the future like 20 years time.
When I'm in my care home, I don't expect to be able to play my old digital or physical collection as consoles won't be around or disk drives for playstation.
Unless your keeping the old consoles safe in the attic over time, nobody will be playing there old physical game collections.

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EvertonFC155d ago

If you bought a physical launch day copy of GTS you still won't be able to download any of the updates in 20 years when servers are off.
Plus there will be no such thing as a disk drive or a hardware box for that matter in 20 years unless you keep your old consoles.
My point is sadly your physical or digital copy won't work.

Barlos155d ago (Edited 155d ago )

I see this as the digital equivalent of physical games going out of print. They don't continue to make copies forever, at some point they will stop making it, usually when sales dry up and I guess for GT sport that happened some time ago. Also, in the digital world, storage space is not infinite. If a game is no longer selling, why would they waste space on keeping it available?

For those that already own the digital version, they will still have access to it.

frostypants155d ago

I generally agree, but GT Sport is primarily an online game. They probably have some reluctance to deal with the blowback of selling an online-oriented game that may not have active servers much longer. Admittedly that's a whole other issue in itself.

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Father__Merrin155d ago

Online based titles like this I wouldn't expect to last forever as the game has been updated iterations as in gt7

Same with if FIFA 20 was delisted as example there's update to game. If something like Uncharted collection was delisted then that's something that's bad

Agent75155d ago

You pay stupid money for digital games and DLC, then it goes missing. Who's laughing?

shinoff2183155d ago

Physical games for yet another win.

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Gran Turismo Sport End of Online Services

On January 31, 2024, at 06:00 UTC, the online services of the PlayStation®4-exclusive software “Gran Turismo Sport” will come to an end.

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shadowT255d ago (Edited 255d ago )

Time to get a PS5! New PS5 owners in the USA can currently claim a game for free, but GT7 is not part of this promotion.

purple101254d ago

GT sport was good. Gt7 is better.

For someone who was crap at racers (and still is) and only played kart racers with powerups, I can say GT sport and gt7 balance SIM/ arcade racing to perfection. Easy enough for anyone to play and not crash but with enough depth to master for years.

Totally different to need for speed / Forza handling where the cars feel 'floaty'.

The dualsense is just supreme with gt7 toi

badz149254d ago

So...will they enable offline saves now or what?

VariantAEC249d ago

From Gran-Turismo.com (the article liked above): "All existing cars and personalized Car Settings kept in Garage will be accessible. Gameplay progression required as normal to unlock additional cars and items."

So... yes, as far as I can tell you'll still be able to use all your collected and purchased cars and race on all the tracks in the game and unlock ones you might not already have access to. That's what I'm getting from the post, but time will tell if this actually comes to pass February 1st, 2024.

Agent75254d ago

After Turismo 4 on the PS2, the series was never the same. Although Turismo 4 wasn't a finished game and didn't play as good as Turismo 3. Turismo 5 on PS3 was a mess, Turismo 6 was Turismo 5 finished. Sport on PS4 was another mess, especially VR mode. Sort of back on track with Turismo 7, but so tiring as with the Forza series. Anyone remember the PSP version that had no championship mode? Turismo has always been average at best.

OmegaSoldati254d ago

Thats why i dont like online only games. Cant believe this, this game sold so well. You need to be a fanboy to keep supporting Sony after this. Bought this thinking that it would take 10 years for this. I'm lucky that there are enough classics and single players for a life time.

VariantAEC249d ago

Looks like PD has the potential to set the bar for closing out always online games.
Back when GT Sport launched you couldn't do anything when you couldn't access the servers, but it looks like GT Sport will retain access to SP race modes, custom races, VR, your full garage, and all tracks. This is much more than what was available at launch if offline.

We still will lose custom liveries and race suits, which is nonsense, but hey if you share them online now they will be in the cloud and available to you in GT7 if you're interested. Basically, we lose MP, but players keep everything we earned and whatever was paid for.

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GranTurismo World Series 2022 | World Finals | Nations Cup | Regional Finals

30 of the world's top GT drivers arrive in Monaco after a highly competitive 2022 Series. They must now navigate a regional qualifying group featuring drivers from their home regions for a place at the Grand Final.
12 drivers from each respective group including the top three from Asia-Oceania, Americas, and Europe/Middle East/Africa groups, and the top three from the Repechage will qualify for the Grand Final.

Agent75254d ago

After Turismo 4 on the PS2, the series was never the same. Although Turismo 4 wasn't a finished game and didn't play as good as Turismo 3. Turismo 5 on PS3 was a mess, Turismo 6 was Turismo 5 finished. Sport on PS4 was another mess, especially VR mode. Sort of back on track with Turismo 7, but so tiring as with the Forza series. Anyone remember the PSP version that had no championship mode? Turismo has always been average at best.