The Witcher 3 is So Close to Being the Best RPG of All Time

The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt is without question one of the best RPG's of this generation, but what could be fixed moving into Cyberpunk 2077.

[CrimsonWing69]

It is in my book.

Hell, I got lost in the meta games like Gwent for hours only to realize I was supposed to be doing a quest. The amount of content, the production values, pretty much everything was just epic on all fronts. I could go on forever talking about my amazement with the game but I'll just leave it at: in my humble opinion it's the best RPG I've played.

[Brave_Losers_Unite]

I found it to not be that great. There were only a few parts that I found good but overall it was above average to me. The story wasn't too interesting

[bluefox755]

Did you do the Bloody Baron quest? Easily one of the best storylines and writing in a video game ever.

[goldwyncq]

Same here. The game excels in its sidequests, which are some of the best in any game, but the main story itself isn't anything special, save for some parts like the Bloody Baron storyline.

[slayernz]

Totally agree main questline I found boring and rushed through it just to finish the game and combat was awful so repetitive....I still cant work out why people keep raving about it

[Count_Bakula]

I thought gameplay was actually pretty bad. Enjoyed it, and glad CD had a hit on their hands, but it definitely didn't feel great. The avatar's movement was clunky (so much so that they patched in an alternate system to choose from), constantly switching spells was poor, hacking and slashing at health bars with no dynamic wounding or marks. Definitely not a 10/10, and certainly not greatest RPG of all-time.

[solideagle]

its much better than overrated Skyrim but I sometimes find this bit boring. gameplay is very simple dodge dodge hit...dodge has huge iframe. I have started it few months ago on Death March from scratch, although at times it felt challenging but if they improve the combat in next one that would be great.

[dumahim]

"I got lost in the meta games like Gwent for hours only to realize I was supposed to be doing a quest."

That sort of thing sort of ruins RPGs for me a bit. "Hey, we need you at X just over there to take care of a situation." 3 weeks later... "Got here as fast as I could"

[zypher]

It's definitely in the running for mine too. The only one I can say I like more is Suikoden 2 ... and I fully admit that nostalgia has a bit to do with it.

[FullmetalRoyale]

I didn’t actually like or play Gwent during my playthrough. Then when I beat it, I had decided to platinum, and I played it agin on Death March! During that second playthough, when I had to collect every Gwent card, I grew to really enjoy it.

[DrumBeat]

Agreed. Best RPG I've ever played and I was born in 81. I've played a lot. Decent amount of JRPG and lots of old TSR PC games. Witcher 3 is in a class all its own. I've said so much about this game and why it's so great, so I'm not going to go into a long-winded, laudatory gushfest.

If you can't get into it, I urge you to keep trying. I was put off initially, but I kept playing and it clicked.

[Veneno]

I like your comment 👍. I tried with with a friend and was also put off after playing for 1 to 2 hours. I put the game in my wishlist. Hopefully I'll pull the trigger on it and give it another try. To me though it seems this game's legacy is something like the original Mass Effect. A beloved game but still flawed enough to keep it out of the GOAT 🐐 realm.

[mandingo]

agree 100%

[alexkarkar]

i found it pretty bad. repetitive and boring combat, clunky controls, buggy and jerky gameplay, small font. not even close to such games as fallout, neverwinter nights, kotor, skyrim.

[opc]

Complaining about character customization is is bizarre. The story is specifically about Geralt. Imagine playing Batman and complaining that you can't change your character.

[MadLad]

Seriously. It's HIS story. You can just influence it. That's the whole point.
Having a more open experience, set in this universe, would be cool though.

[FalconofLucis98]

Ill put 12 FF games over TW3 in my books.

[pietro1212]

The only FFs that I'd rank along the Witcher would be Tactics and FFXII

[MadLad]

@pietro

We must have very similar tastes, being those are easily my favorites of the series.

[pietro1212]

TedCruzsTaint
You have great taste my friend!

[BoneMagnus]

Yes - having the story about Geralt allows for the relationships that were interesting.

Games like Skyrim don’t allow for that level of relationship and interaction between the characters.

[leahcim]

Just try name 1 that surpass it in production values, story, scope, character writing, graphics....
It is my friend. It is the best of all times.

[King_Noctis]

You are right. No RPG come close in size, scope, and story to the Witcher 3. If there is ever a Witcher 4, I don’t know if CDPR can ever top TW3.

[pietro1212]

yomfweeee
There's a lit of bad things about RDR2, but it's story wasn't one of them.

[ShinRon]

red dead 2 better story, characters and production values

[Hroach616]

That’s up for debate. Both are top notch games that are hard to compare.

[MadLad]

Most of that is subjective; and I'm sure people would fight you on the writing part.
As for production values, well, while Witcher 3 is still one of the most impressive open worlds to be found, after five years and unlimited resources, I would hope the largest developer around would be able to make something more technically impressive than the indie developer a fifth of its size.

[yomfweeee]

RDR2 story was a complete joke.

[bluefox755]

Lol, no.

[goldwyncq]

I agree that RDR2 is the better game of the two but I wouldn't really call it an RPG. Just an open world game with RPG elements.

[sevilha82]

very debatable indeed,i loved the game but had to force myself to finish it,too depressing and the pace was soo slow.after a 9h sifht of retail it was just to much to bare,still best game i played this year no doubt about it.

[King_Noctis]

We’re talking about RPG. Is RDR2 even qualified as an RPG?

[Cmv38]

I can make a few that are better, but its my opinion. Witcher 3, is overrated, but I would gladly play a witcher 4. You guys who love it, that encourages them to make a sequel.

[PoSTedUP]

ive never played it. sound like i have no other choice now lol. i keep hearing so much about it.

[knight_drives]

And gameplay...? too bad that sucks

[ShinRon]

they just need to maintain the solid writing and actually put in some compelling gameplay systems. as good as the story was the gameplay was pretty bad

[starchild]

The gameplay wasn't bad. It was much better than what you get in most RPGs. It's just not as good as the combat in games like Nioh and Dark Souls, but combat is the whole focus in those games so that's not surprising. The Witcher 3's combat is still enjoyable for me, even as a veteran of From Software's games.

[MadLad]

Mine held as Morrowind until New Vegas came out. After playing Witcher 3 though, it definitely is my favorite.

[shinoff2183]

Not for me. Honestly I couldnt even get into it.

[Brave_Losers_Unite]

Same

[Hroach616]

After all the updates and patches I’d say it is as close to a perfect game as it gets. Story, gameplay, esthetics, ambience, music, voice acting. It’s all pretty much as good as it gets for such an expansive game.
It quickly became my favorite game I’ve every played and probably will be for a long time. Shit I went and read ALL the books in the Witcher saga. What other game could make me care for the characters that much. None. I know it’s just my opinion. But my god I love this game/series.

[GameStallion]

It is the “best” if that could be a definitive thing.

[EddieNX]

BOTW is a lot more fun. Played both.

[Imalwaysright]

BoTW is an open world action adventure game, not a RPG

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

LOL what? BOTW has almost no story and characters are an after thought...Different beats. BOTW is also grossly overrated like many of nintendo games.

[EddieNX]

Nah, it's just a more enjoyable game. It's always nice to see people (haters) jumping on the old 'bReAtH oF thE WiLd Is OvErateD' bandwagon though :)

[bluefox755]

Imagine my shock, lol.

[pietro1212]

Not a rpg. BoTW is great game, but it has it faults when it came to the story and characters.

[notachance]

I fell asleep on 3rd copy paste beast

[obidanshinobi]

A very good game yes, but I think I preferred the Witcher 2 overall.
In 3 I found the character movements a bit skiddy, and the combat is not as good Witcher 2's.
Combat in W3 was way too easy, equip Quen then attack and roll around, if you get hit then apply Quen again and rinse and repeat.
A good game but way over hyped.

[Blu3_Berry]

Nah that title goes to Fallout 76..........says no one ever.

I loved The Witcher 3. I still have to play through the DLC but I heard that is just as good, if not better. The main thing I loved about Witcher 3 is that it's about Geralt, not some random no name character with little backstory that is destined to change the world. This is about Geralt and it's his personal story, that's what I loved about it so much.

[Manubiggs]

I agree.....only bested by Dragon Age : Origins

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

LMAO no.

[Movefasta1993]

origins is amazing, you wouldn't understand .

[bluefox755]

Origins was great, but not even in the same league as Witcher 3.

[Manubiggs]

It probably hasn't aged well, but nostalgia is a powerful force, and that final battle in DAO where all your decisions over the past 50 hours result in one final clash was an amazing feeling that no other RPG has given me since.

[SPEAKxTHExTRUTH]

Not with that (imo) horrible combat. Don’t get me wrong The Witcher is a great game but the combat just feels off. Can’t put my finger on it but it just rubs me the wrong way.

[starchild]

Terrible compared to what? Seriously, that's ridiculous. What other comparable game has much better combat? If you compare it to the combat in games like Dark Souls or Nioh then sure it doesn't match up. But then again those games are nearly all about the combat and they don't match up to The Witcher 3 in other ways. Combat in the Witcher 3 isn't the entire focus, but it was still enjoyable as part of the overall experience. It is worlds better than the combat in something like Skyrim, imo.

[SPEAKxTHExTRUTH]

That’s YOUR opinion and this is mines. Nothing you say will change that. I don’t like the combat much as I stated before. I’m not comparing it to anything that’s YOU who is doing that. For me the combat was the least enjoyable part of W3.

[CrystalFantasy3]

I played Witcher 3 and fallout 4 recently for the first time.

It's very clear Bethesda were outclassed in every way imaginable this time.

Although I'd put divinity original sin 2 up there but when it comes to big budget AAA rpgs then yeah, witcher 3 is the standard.

[Vithar]

it is for me, hell some side quests are better than entire games.
amazing experience

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

It's good, story wise, everything else was average....I wish the game press took gameplay more seriously. It should be kind of important in a game lol.

[EddieNX]

That's what BOTW has, exceptional gameplay.

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

The combat is mediocore at best...only thing it does well is environment physics.

[Last_Boss]

It's NOT a RPG for FUCKS sake!!

[Veneno]

Ok so my assumption of the Witchers legacy being like Mass Effect 1 is correct (havent played Witcher yet). Beloved for it's story and world but the gameplay just doesn't reach the same heights.

[Fraggle1987]

Is a really good game but can't compare to the likes of an elder scrolls game. There world is just a lot more engrossing. U feel like u can truly strike out in any direction and do anything. Unmatched freedom.

[Exvalos]

I probably spent more time playing gwent then playing the actual game keep in mind, I've over 150 hours in the witcher

[Lovable]

Lmao what? Not even close!

[starchild]

What's yours then?

[Lovable]

Last generation: Valkyrie Profile 2
This generation: Persona 5

[bluefox755]

Probably the best western RPG. I don't like comparing western RPGs to Jrpgs though since they're so different. While Witcher 3 is probably the "better" RPG, objectively, I still liked Persona 5 better, but not by much. Phenomenal game though, no doubt.

[lucian229]

it really isn't the perfect rpg. it's a great game but the combat is bad and story could have been a bit better. Signs were blah and skills were blah as well.

[SegaSaturn669]

W3 is great. I don't think it comes close to Oblivion, Diablo, FF6, VP2, SMT: Nocturne. It doesn't get the pacing right and the soundtrack is not phenomenal. It's very good but with some significant dips.

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

LOL diablo.

[SegaSaturn669]

The original Diablo, really stomped.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[starchild]

For me those games don't hold a candle to The Witcher 3. But you know, we all have our own tastes. Nothing is universally beloved. There are people that say they don't like Zelda Breath of the Wild, The Last of Us, Red Dead Redemption or any other generally well regarded game.

[Segata]

Top best RPGs are still from the 90s on SNES/PS1/Saturn/Genesis and PC. Some of those games might belong to Falcom a Japanese company that invented the Action RPG and among the first to make Japanese role-playing game.

[DillyDilly]

Best RPG of all time is the first KOTOR

[Germaximus]

Kingdoms of Amalur

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

lol..said no one ever

[Movefasta1993]

very good game but greatest rpg?Na. it had better combat than tw3, i'll give it that

[sssb]

FFVII & TW3 is my fav RPG games all the time :)

[--bienio--]

Agree!

[2pacalypsenow]

Mass effect is better.

[pietro1212]

Good game, but it's not

[2pacalypsenow]

It is.

[pietro1212]

One of the best RPGs I've played. I'd rank it with Xenogears, Planescape Torment, and Vagrant Story

[Dragonscale]

No.

[goldwyncq]

It's not even the best RPG this generation (that goes to Bloodborne). It's no doubt a great game, but also pretty overrated.

[2pacalypsenow]

People are infatuated with cd projekt red since they're the "Good guy"

[Father__Merrin]

Overrated imo had it on ps4 Pro tried my best to get into it it's certainly a well polished game but not for me. Fallout oblivion are much better

[Traecy]

Agreed. Tried TW3 twice (bought it twice) to see if I could get into it because of the praise it was getting & I just couldn't. I felt the same about RDR2.

[Traecy]

I disagree wholeheartedly.

[gangsta_red]

Meh, I enjoyed it but I did get a little bored towards the end.

After you find Ciri and go back to the castle I was skipping the cut scenes and just wanting to finish the game as quickly as possible.

The best part of the game imo were taking the bounties and getting rid of the monsters that plagued the town's.

[MasterCornholio]

Don't forget the clouds!!!!!

[Rambokind]

Nope. More clickbait stupidity. The combat is extremely clunky and repetitive.

[pietro1212]

You summed up most Western RPGs to be honest.

[starchild]

The combat was less clunky and more fun than most Western RPGs. To me it felt like a shallower, less refined Dark Souls-ish combat. Not as good as Dark Souls/Bloodborne/Nioh in terms of combat, but still better than what I was used to in most games of its type.

[BeOpenMinded]

If the combat wasn't so repetitive and unevolved from previous entries then yeah. Not to mention I kept falling asleep playing lol... Red dead 2 has same issues... One of the most beautiful displays of the gaming medium that I just couldn't get very excited about. To each their own

[TheHateTheyGive]

I did not enjoy it. HZD is a much better rpg than witcher.

[WickedLester]

I enjoyed TW3 but I agree that HZD is better. Gameplay alone destroys TW3. Plus for me, the Witcher 3 was just too damn big! I found HZD's map size and story length to be just right. The whole thing was balanced perfectly. Plus, not to sound prudish but the non stop T&A in Witcher 3 got to be so tiresome. It's so needless and serves no other purpose but to satisfy horny, basement dwelling virgins.

[AK91]

I know I am in the minority TW3 its barely a game to me but to each their own.

[pietro1212]

I've ask you before, but do you mean by that? If offers more gameplay than most games to come out the past two gens.

[starchild]

If it wasn't a game then neither are most Sony exclusives, because they tend to have equally shallow gameplay with an emphasis on narrative and presentation.

[EricLane]

Finished half of it. Took a break. Started RDR2. Now trying to finish RDR2 so I can restart Witcher 3. So fun. I have the PC version with the mod for no fall damage. I heard the fall damage is a nightmare coupled with the clunky movement. Great game.

[averagejoe26]

Bahahahahahaha

[EmperorDalek]

Not even close. It is quite possibly the most overrated, however.

Its controls were so bad they practically made horse riding automatic. Outright bad combat, which made leveling up and upgrading your gear feel boring. The story wasn't that good, it certainly didn't hold up the rest of the game. To me, even the first two games were better.

People seem to forget it was a bit of a battle between this and Bloodborne for best RPG of 2015. Despite not being the biggest fan of Bloodborne myself, it still objectively had better gameplay than TW3. The world was far more interesting too. I think critics made the wrong choice in giving TW3 the awards over Bloodborne.

In many ways Red Dead Redemption 2 is an RPG. The world changes based on how you play, you can upgrade and attain more powerful weapons. Even getting your horse to live up to its full potential felt like it was straight out of an RPG. The Witcher 3 simply doesn't compete in any department.

[Veneno]

I like your analysis 👍. I loved Bloodnourne. So if TW3 pales in comparison maybe I won't pick it up after all.

[EmperorDalek]

I am in the minority with my opinion on TW3, you may like it more. It is fairly cheap these days on sale, so it still might be worth a shot. Just don't expect combat as good as Bloodborne's if you do get it.

[UncertainCategory]

I think this game is a little overrated... I like it, I think it's a fantastic RPG.. But I did not get into it as much as I did with Horizon Zero Dawn, or the original Mass Effect trilogy.

It's a great game, but I have tried so many times but I can't bring myself to finish it. Much more excited about Cyberpunk then I ever was with Witcher!

[brando008]

TW3 is such a masterclass game, still a favourite. Currently finishing book 6 and recommend the books to anyone interested in high fantasy with a darker tone.

[cyber_daemonx]

Almost after Bloodborne, Dark Souls etc.

[beanplant]

Don't think it's the best one ever but it's certainly in the top 3 for me.

[alexkarkar]

nope ainec. nowhere close to fallout, kotor or neverwinter nights, skyrim.

[PrimeVinister]

I was Geralt for a few hours a day for months on end.