IGN: Fallout 3 PS3 Review

IGN writes: "Fallout 3 is a special videogame. It's an open-world role-playing game that delivers an experience unlike anything on the market right now. It's a gripping and expansive showcase of how much depth and excitement can be packed into one videogame, and it does justice to the Fallout franchise. This sequel is the first made by Bethesda, the developers responsible for The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. You don't need to play any of their past games or any previous Fallout games to enjoy this one. It stands on its own as a memorable and well-crafted videogame.

The Fallout universe paints a picture of a dystopian future. It exists in what people on the cusp of the atomic revolution in the 1950s saw as the sci-fi world of tomorrow…if several thousand nuclear bombs were dropped on it. It's a quaint sci-fi view of a future filled with atomic cars, robot servants, and incredibly basic computer terminals. A nuclear war has taken away most of these technological comforts, providing the backdrop for a game with a dreary, desperate atmosphere filled with glib and dark humor. It's a world that is both fantastic and somehow believable. And it is one that's exciting to explore."

[FBl]

Made to be played with the Dualshock 3

[GiantEnemyLobster]

Considering Sony went the stupid route and thought it wasn't needed, in which they went and contradicted themselves by releasing it a YEAR after the PS3 was released. LOL, nice fail sony.

[GiantEnemyLobster]

You like to play with Boy's Sacks? sackboys? Queer

[Mr Fancy Pants]

sony didn't contradicted themselves they listened to their fans... we wanted DS3 and the DS3 came. as simple as that.

but what about all those xbox without HDMI, HDD and the RRoD?

no answer?

[Aquanox]

"8.5 Presentation
The atmosphere and style are everything you could ask for and more. The PS3 version has shown us substantially more bugs than what you get on PC and 360."

Plus Exclusive Downloadable content. I believe there's no dilema here.

Xbox 360 and PC got 9.0 in this deparment by the way.

[Montrealien]

Mr Fancy pants said...

"sony didn't contradicted themselves they listened to their fans... we wanted DS3 and the DS3 came. as simple as that. "

I suggest you read this

http://arstechnica.com/news...

Sony settled with immersion, in came the dual shock 3. Stop filling yourself with fairies and wizards on this supposed Sony good will. They are a publicly traded company and don't give a crap about you, just like MS.

[The Killer]

wrong!! they do give a sh t about ps3 fans, and even if they didnt then at least they r doing it far more better than MS(RROD,disk scratching,no HDMI,no HDD,no wifi, repairing takes for some cases many weeks, they replace ur broken 360 with another fixed broken 360)

[Yoma]

Yes, Sony do listen to the consumers, more than MS and Nintendo does. Not just themself have said, but other news sites too.

[Breakfast]

I know which version im getting....
....definitely not the version without cross game invites, thats for sure.

:)

[chanto23]

but not for the reasons you would like...both games look exactly the same as opposed to what PSM was saying...the reason the PS3 scored lower wasn't because framerate issues or bad graphics but because of a glitch that when you get friend messages the game becomes blurry. So play offline and tadaaaaa!!! its the same as 360

But i know that .2 will make your day...sadly...but true

EDIT: Whoever disagreed is because he can't read...

[PirateThom]

Wait... the game has online? :-/

I didn't know that.

Like Fable 2, a game I won't be playing online.

[Breakfast]

Itll hold me off till the MGS4, Heavy Rain, and KZ2 get announced for the 360.

:)

[Yui_Suzumiya]

13 years later and you'll still be waiting, lol

[poopsack]

KZ2 published by sony on 360, confirmed by breakfast!

lol

[Aclay]

@ Breakfast,

MGS4 and KZ2 aren't even possible on the Xbox 360 in the state they are in right now on the Playstation 3. Killzone 2 will be using 4 and a half cores in the PS3 as stated by Guerrilla, does the Xbox 360 even have 4 cores... nope. Try again, keep dreaming and keep on spinning.

If MGS4 does come to the 360 (highly doubt it will) it will definantly be the inferior version that's for sure.

Guerrilla is 1st party Sony developer Breakfast and Killzone 2 will never come to the 360! Oh my God, Breakfast just owned himself with that dumb comment.

Anyways, If you want MGS4 and Killzone 2 that bad just buy a PS3.

[TheColbertinator]

Hahahahaha Breakfast rules

[RememberThe357]

You play with the fanboys like no one else. At first I thought you were an idiot, then I realized what you were doing and every comment since has been golden. Your like a puppet master. It's classic.

[ruibing]

How in the world do you still have access to the gamer zone?

[Peter Griffin]

Another $65 dollars gone, remaining balance: $-234,992

[Dark General]

I'm waiting on Alan Wake to Ps3 myself ;).

[N4PS3G]

@ aclayps3

oh boy oh boy ..you really don't understand Breakfast sarcasm

[theEnemy]

You mean Alan Wait ? :)

[wallace1000]

Breakfast is a giant sarcastic pimp and so many people don't get it. Keep up the good work dude.

[GUNS N SWORDS]

360 gamers don't have to worry one bit about multiplats, even with burnout paradise and dead space being ps3 lead the 360's never ended up with a slightly defected game.

i wasn't even expecting to see this, i just got back from a hard days work, this news came to me all natural.

[Pika-pie]

Im sure they will patch that PS3 issue. I dont think it was fair to mark down the PS3 version because of that.

Anyway I really dont know which version to buy. I think il buy both, see which one plays best for me & flog one version on ebay once decided :)

[TheUsedVersion]

I've been meaning to say this for a long time....

What happened to you?

Are you even the same person because I remember when you actually made sensible comments, adding to the discussion, and didn't troll the articles everyday looking for attention. You've always been a fan of the 360 but you were never biased. However, now you and your sad attempts at getting attention are just pathetic. Its really sad.

I hope you are permanently relegated to the Open Zone. I for one could do without your drivel.

[kevin1112]

it must get lonely in his mothers basements, breakfast has to keep himself busy somehow.

hwg, it is well known the ps3 is a more powerful machine.

[HWG]

I find your blind dedication to some dogmatic false facts rather disturbing. The numbers disagree with you.

[kevin1112]

let me guess, you pulled those numbers off of 360.ign lol. the ones where no one can understand how they came to those numbers. and the fact that tons of developers including john carmack disagree. we all know if you build a game specifically for the ps3 is can do more than the 360, i thought even the fanboys got this already.

[y0haN]

you guys got trolled by the lowest common denominator... breakfast

:)

[MetalProxy]

@HWG can you point out one game that uses all "pipelines"?...thoug ht so. Your just assuming that the developers do use everything to the max. And who said it runs smoothy also? You didnt even provide a link neither. I can go on on and but its pointless.
:)

[Dareaver1]

finally someone with some common sense...

But i hope you do realize that the same applies to the PS3.

The specs they feed the fanboys are all at max in a very controlled environment, both consoles are not capable of attaining those spec numbers in a real world environment.

Both fans and fanboys of both sides need to understand that.

But there is something to be said, the architecture of one relies heavily on a more Synergistic approach, versus the other. And developers have stated that too.

[power of Green]

The 360 is more powerful and has been proven too many times.

Farcry 2(make sure you enlarge the pics with the icon on the botton right of the pic that will show up)

http://img355.imageshack.us...

I'm sure they held back the 360 version so that the PS3 version wouldn't lagg behind.

PS3 version not as sharp and has missing objects with inferior textures and contrast.

[y0haN]

It's funny you should mention that Power of Green, because if in Far Cry 2 you find a really good weapon that is, for example, unreliable as hell and will only work for a short while but is slightly more powerful than your current weapon, do you swap it, or do you keep the nice, shiny weapon that won't break and will see you through to the end of the game..?

[Antan]

"I'm sure they held back the 360 version so that the PS3 version wouldn't lagg behind"

So i assume by your logic they held back the PC version also? which of course they didn`t as the PC version is far and away above what either console is achieving. POG, you know absolutely nothing about multi platform game development so its best if you just stop spreading your "held back" nonsense because you look foolish each and everytime. Get a job in the industry and you will learn things. But what do i know, i mean i only work in the industry.....oh wait!

[Ju]

@HWG R2 strongly disagrees with your opinion.

@POG, yeah right, FarCry2. Sure. Especially in the second shot (well, can't help it, but the 360 version is always, sunny, huh? Where are the clouds ).

But, well, I could post this:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/realil...

or this:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/realil...

[HWG]

Please tell me where I said PS3 was not a capable machine? Where did I say it was not capable of producing beautiful environments? I'm simply clarifying the 360 has the more capable hardware. It is entirely up to developers to make use of what they have.

[Ju]

I disagree with you because pulling specs alone is only half of the picture. But this has been discussed up and down, so I won't go there again, and again and again and again....

[Yoma]

You are always beeing sarcastic, but peoples just dont get it :D

[Xiru]

HWG, you sure went to a lot of trouble for nothing. 360 has the better GPU, PS3 is superior in overall power. Take this quote from John Carmack. "So says John Carmack, the legendary programmer of the Doom and Quake series, in an intriguing interview with Buzzscope. Though Carmack expresses a "preference" for the Xbox 360's CPU design, he admits that the PS3 "will have a bit more peak power."

Care to argue with John Carmack?

I'll clarify a bit better. The 360 has more ram and is preferred for development because it is easier to program for. It also has slightly faster gpu. The PS3 has a more powerful CPU, less ram and slightly less powerful gpu. In order to make the PS3 perform better than the 360, you have to program around the limitations of the ram and gpu and put more emphasis on the cpu. This is why multiplatform games are inferior on the PS3. Developers struggle with this because its difficult and costly. It is not always because they are lazy. My main point is that when a game is made with the PS3 as the main focus, it is possible to produce something superior than what the same game would be on the 360. But since most games are multiplatform now, we really won't be seeing much evidence of this.

[KARMA2009]

Keep dreaming,KILLZONE2 would explode the cpu of the 360...RROD EXPLODSION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KARMA2009]

good enough for the PS3's 2nd year,thrid party developers are almost getting the hang it of the PS3 system(cell,RSX,etc)
BTW online is free and trophies are coming.....HOME nov/19/2008.......

[JoySticksFTW]

Bubbles to you

[Highatus]

curious cause IGN UK gave both version an 8.8

Sidebar on site

PS3 http://ps3.ign.com/articles...

XB360 http://xbox360.ign.com/obje...

since we are talkin ratings

[Isaac]

"DISAGREE WITH NUMBERS LOL!!!" I don't disagree with numbers, I disagree with your ass (or IGN's ass or Xbox.com's ass or whatever ass you took them from).

Did you take those numbers out of your ass? Obviously Xbox fanboys or ignorants (you choose) will not talk about PS3's strength's over 360 in terms of hardware. For example, the Cell processor was made with graphics in mind, unlike Xbox 360's processor which will never be used for graphics as it's not worth the effort. The Cell processor has outperformed in some graphics processing tests the most advanced GPUs, like for example it outperformed the nVidia 8800 GT by taking only a fifth of time to process the same graphics related task. That's 5 times more powerful than one of the best cards in the market. The 9800 and the 280 aren't that much more powerful than the 8800, considering nVidia didn't raise the bar much, they basically added support for Physics. Anyway, just to compare that with the 360 GPU, the 8800 GT has more than 100 unified shaders, each of which runs faster than 360's 48 unified shaders. Basically, the 360's GPU pales in comparison to the cell processor.

Another strength in the PS3 is the XDR Ram. It's a lot faster than 360's RAM and it generates less bottlenecks between the CPU and memory unlike 360's architecture. This lets the cell processor work as fast as its memory (in terms of clock speed) unlike the 360 CPU, but hell that hasn't mattered much since developers are only focused in one PPC core and using the GPU (that's why PS3 ports look so sh1tty since they rarely use SPUs on PS3, and they use a single core on 360 since that's what they're used to... not like it would make much difference if they used more cores since most 3rd party games are usually oriented in next-gen graphics and last-gen gameplay).

Another strength that the PS3 has over the 360 is also found on the GPUs. While unified shader architecture allows each shader processor to perform any kind of graphical task, that makes each shader processor take a performance hit; which is why nVidia chose the RSX, a better version of the 7800 (perhaps directly comparable with the 7900), since it delivers more power per shader processor.

Now, why does everyone say the 360 GPU is better? Well, if PS3 and 360 were PCs, then I have no doubt that 360 would outperform the PS3 if only the GPU mattered. Why? Because PC games have to be developed for architectures as flexible as possible, not for high power fixed on certain types of calculations. However, consoles are made to be taken advantage off, which is why nVidia chose the RSX, since it has higher theoretical computational power than a unified architecture and it's cheaper to deliver (for the time when it was delivered). That's why the RSX was consistently shown to perform better *on paper*. The problem is that to make the RSX perform as good as it does on paper it has to be in a very controlled environment, unlike 360's GPU which is very flexible, like its unified RAM.

HWG can believe whatever he wants, but don't let his numbers impress you. There are countless of tests that can show either side (the PS3 side or the 360 side) to be the "better" machine. I could take my time to show you all the tests, but that's really as pointless as HWG's verborrhea. What really matters, is real world performance, and the proof is in the pudding, and there has yet to be any 360 exclusive showing graphics, physics, amount of enemies or simulations, among other things as good as those found on PS3 exclusives.

If the 360 was truly as powerful as Xbox fanboys want to believe, then it would be impossible for the PS3 to have shown visuals much better than multiplatform games or exclusive 360 games, especially when you consider that you can squeeze Xbox 360's power very easily. That's why multiplatforms are looking better on 360 as of late, since consoles are being treated as PCs, and how can you blame developers anyway? They are not all noobs, they are simply all about the money, time and resources. If they can make a good game fast on 360 and then a half-decent port on PS3, they'll do it if it gives them more profit. They have a single RAM pool that doesn't require you to optimize the amount of information you allocate for the CPU and GPU and a graphics processor that doesn't require for you to optimize the amount of vertex and pixel shaders that you require it to process, versus a machine that requires tons and tons of optimizations, especially one whose processor requires TWENTY TIMES MORE CODING (literally, as scientists have shown) to make it perform that much better.

(There was a test done at, I don't remember if it was MIT, Stanford, or Princeton, but the point is, a computer science Ph. D. optimized an algorithm to run in the cell processor; it actually ran 32 times faster but... instead of being the 20 lines of code the original required, it was about 400 lines of code; that's gotta be 20 times more expensive, and in game development, that's a lot of money that you're never gonna see spent just to make a multiplatform game exploit the PS3's strengths)

I didn't even need to put the Hard Drive or Blu-ray into the equation.

Conclusion: PS3's strength's are hard to exploit, and will only be seen by the differences between exclusive games. And while exclusive games are hard to compare... there should be exclusive games on 360 that are truly more revolutionary in different ways (technologically speaking) than PS3 exclusives, and there aren't any. I mean seriously, even with PS3's supposed "weaknesses", Uncharted has more than twice the polygons per character than Gears of War, it has more color and more detailed textures, even when it's hard to code for.

There's nothing as stunning as killzone on 360. No game with the scope of resistance. No game with the level of detail. Now, where are the games, "HWG"? Is Gears the best 360 can do? Because as detailed as it is, it's basically small corridors with few enemies. Alan Wake looks nice but not as nice as the games I mentioned, and we've only seen the PC version anyway. Everything else is not a technological masterpiece. Ninja Gaiden 2 and Halo 3 might be good games but technologically speaking we've seen better things on PS3 exclusives. It's time to walk the walk and do less talk. HWG is coming out as simply an attention whore, a fanboy, an ignorant, or anything BUT a sapient computer whiz.

[The XBOT]

This generations console wars will not be decided with "which console is more powerful", they are both great consoles delivering great performances. This generation will be decided with library. Sony has more studios, MS is buying more library for their console. They both have great strategies. So far the 360 has this:

* more wins in Multiplatform games which makes the biggest library shares.
* Very good exclusives (Less than that of PS3s)
* Great Online Gaming Exprience
* Good Price
* Possible Shorter Life

The ps3 has this:

*more wins with exclusive games, that is with both internal and the diminishing number of third party exclusives.
*Blue Ray (not every gamer is interested, but allot are)
* Good Online Experience
* Possible Longer Life

Reasons for owning two consoles this generation are less than previous ones. If I had a choice, I would own both consoles, but not all gamers can. In this generation, their will be no winners and no losers. The Xbox 360 are and the PS3 will have allot of games for us to play wether it is exclusive or not.

What will be interesting is the next generation. Microsoft will probably go with a higher end pc-like console while still supporting the big install base of its 360 to slowly gain mileage on the comming generation. Something equivalent to 2 gtx 280s or 2 ati 4870's with a 8 core architecture or something. The PS3 would be stronger, with an awesome library and the development teams would have mastered its architecture producing great games and a massive install base that is hard to ignore and will surprise gamers with its new console. I have no idea what PS3 will base on their next design on.

[i_like_ff7]

Fallout 3 ps3 9.4

Fallout 3 360 9.6

How long will idiot Fanboys argue about this -__-. Im guessing a good 4 months.

[silverchode]

mgs4 10/10 :)

[TheHater]

until fallout 5 comes out. Sad, but true

[silverchode]

wat happened to fallout 4?

[RememberThe357]

Same scores...

[jessupj]

Call me an idiot, call me a fanboy, tell me I'm missing out, but I am not getting this game until it has trophy support. That is final.

[SL1M DADDY]

You're being sarcastic, right? Just asking 'cause it seems kind of silly to miss out on a great game just for some silly trophies that amount to nothing.

Great score for a great game. Will be picking this one up tonight.

[Cenobia]

I actually agree. I want trophies on my first play through. I don't know why, but I love the trophy system.

That's not my only reason for waiting though. There are too many other games coming out at the same time, and I don't have the money for them all. Also, I hate this exclusive DLC bullsh!t, and don't really feel like supporting companies that go down that road. I'll definitley pick it up eventually, but I'd like to see more support for the PS3 version (beyond just porting it).

Also, the glitches on the PS3 version need to be ironed out before I even consider it. Hopefully the patch doesn't take more than a couple of weeks (although the trend for this sort of thing seems to be months).

[FBl]

I'll start with LBP,then whenever I'm taking a break from Sackboy,I'll pop in Fallout 3 to enjoy some true HiDefinition gaming only on Ps3

[omodis420]

For me its LBP when the little one is around, and as soon as its his bed time. IT BLOWING PEOPLE UP TIME!!!

[name]

They scored the ps3 version .2 lower because of one glitch of blurryness that happens during cross game invites? That's worth .2 points?

[Kyur4ThePain]

Anything to get it lower. You know.

[pwnsause]

.1 for no trophies and DLC
.1 for bugs.

[RememberThe357]

You act like thats bad or something. Sh*t, I'll get it on the PS3 just because.

[Marceles]

Still getting it on PS3 at the same time I pick up Motorstorm 2. I hope they do patch trophies on it eventually...they said they haven't ruled it out but I dont know, it's still gonna be epic to play.

[theEnemy]

Looks like the majority of gamers who own both consoles will get the 360 version.

PS3-only owners are kind of sad because Bethesda ain't giving us trophies and DLC.

But it's all good. The game looks awesome. Definitely a GotY contender.

It will sell good on both consoles.

[theEnemy]

Will you STFU ?

You're the "pp" of PS3-Fanboys.

You're an embarrassment to all PS3 owners.

Fallout 3 is obviously better on 360 due to it's exclusive DLC, lead-platform, the PS3 version without having trophies, and this "bugs".

(This is coming from a PS3/PC only owner)

[robotnik]

If I get this game someday, it will be for the PS3.

[Vertius]

Of course the PS3 version is getting DLC. The exclusive Microsoft content would be your Horse Armour/Wizard's Tower/one or two Knights of the Nine-style downloads...but the inevitable expansion pack will be on PS3 too.

http://multiplayerblog.mtv....

[KARMA2009]

im getting the PS3 version because I dont have a 360 and never will own a rubbish system thats a ticking time bomb..aka xbox 360 RROD ...

[happyface]

Its a shame the ps triple couldn't run the Game of the Year as good as Xbox 360.

[thewhoopimen]

As noted in the article, if you even bother to read it. The bugs can be patched.

[happyface]

thats good news the poor ps3 version can be fixed

I'm happy 4 u

[thewhoopimen]

thanks me 2. As for poor... Let's come back to this discussion when u can afford higher quality box. Made in China 360s aren't exactly my cup of tea. Especially considering costs of only $99 to manufacture. Lot of corner cutting methinks. Just look at the arcade. Unfilled sticker spots. Yellowing white cases.

http://www.joystiq.com/2005...

I prefer the Made in Japan moniker and I quite enjoy my system very much.

[CaptainHowdy]

both mgs4 & lbp are on ps3.... GOTY baby!!

[TheExecutive]

either that or LBP which is also on the ps3. .2 is nothing, let the kiddies argue.

[Rhoic]

Honestly GTA IV will most likely nab GoTY due to sales lol..

[KARMA2009]

LITTLE BIG PLANET will be the game of the year....

[omodis420]

.2 isn't going to hold me back from enjoying myself tomorrow after work. I plan to wake up early, go to work at 4am until 10am and then go straight to GameCrazy to get my copy. Then It's off to home with me headphones and me bong. TOMORROW IS GOING TO RULE!!!

[RememberThe357]

; )

[omodis420]

How are you going to disagree with that. Probably just because you don't smoke. I worked hard paying off my pre-order for this and supporting my smoking habit :)

Isn't that like an Oxymoron?

[trancefreak]

enjoi :)

[Asurastrike]

Sucks the PS3 version is slightly worse. But it seems that no matter what version you play it will be a blast! (pun intended mother effer! :P )

[omodis420]

.2 is nothing. It's like plucking all the hairs out of my sackboy and complaining that I missed two.

[happyface]

thats the spirit, dont let inferior ps triple games let you down

support sony 4evar

[Asurastrike]

happyface, it has nothing to do with supporting sony "4evar". I own a PS3, and rather than not play this amazing game, I will take the slightly inferior version.

[RememberThe357]

I wonder what your favorite console is?

[DiabloRising]

Nice. Wonder if I'll like this game as much as them?

But what is with the bugs? Fable 2 is buggy as hell. Gears 2 has glitches reported. Socom is WAY buggy. And now Fallout 3? I understand games are going to have bugs, but damn, gamebreakers and showstoppers are NOT acceptable for any title. *sigh* Hopefully they patch it.

I'm sure the fanboys will love arguing over the score though. I'll be too busy playing the damn thing. :-)

[n4gzz]

I can deal with simple graphic but I hate bugs, spceially freezing issue. This is unacceptable. It takes away all the fun of the game for me.

[0verdrive]

it started this generation when developers figured out they had the ability to patch games via internet.

i used to have a argument with my old roommate about pc vs console gaming, because i used to be a huge pc gamer. i argued that pc games were superior, because the end product is near perfection to what developers want, because they can periodically release patches that fix bugs and gitches that come up. my roommate argued that console games received more attention and arent released prematurely because they couldnt be patched, so they come out much more polished that pc games.

well now that consoles have internet capabilities, developers are realizing their ability to patch over time, helping them release games faster and giving them the ability to meet deadlines, instead of pushing release dates back to make sure the game is polished. this leads to premature launches and buggy games. the developers are taking the "well fix it later mentality" and gamers are suffering. =(

[Asurastrike]

Btw, the freezing issue better be patched within the first week. That is unacceptable.

[n4gzz]

Played oblivion. It was okay game for me. I hated load screen though. I think, I wait for this game until I can buy used copy under 40. Already brought LBP, Fable II, FIFA 09, Far Cry2 last week Getting Gears2, Resistance2, NFS undercover and Mirror's edge. I am tight on TIME now. I am sure, its one the best for many gamers. Hope you guys enjoy it.

[FBl]

LittleBigPlanet,Motorstorm 2,Fifa 09,Linger In Shadows,Fallout 3,Eternal Sonata,Far Cry 2,Dead Space,Bioshock,Midnight Club:Los Angeles,Singstar:Vol 2,and Guitar Hero:World Tour.

I'll be playing all of the above on my sweet Sony console displaying the games on my sweet Sony TV.

[FailStation3]

sorry to hear that.

[Sanzee]

0.2 isn't a big difference.

9.4 vs. 9.6

But 9.6 sure as f*ck isn't 9.4 - I am really not trying to start a flame war. But you can't deny the fact that the PS3 doesn't run Fallout 3 as good as the Xbox 360.

AMEN

Xbox 360 FTW

[0verdrive]

its tru, xbox version is superior, but i guess thats all you can expect kuz its made for xbox. plus dlc, if i had an xbox id probably buy for it too, but im too much of a fan of the fallout franchise to miss this one, and its going to be an outstanding game on either console. two more hooooours.

[cmrbe]

so no surprise it would be .2 more. I really dobut it would make any real diffreence to anyone.

[TrooGamer]

When the 'minor' issues does it become a 9.6?

People need to get over it...the games loosk great or incredible on both machines. Obviously they will patch it also the DLC will be diffferent on PS3..

Still dont know what machine to get it on tho

All gamers win. Fanboys are the losers.

[The Killer]

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[LightningPS3PS3]

Killzone 2 and Heavy Rain are published by Sony. You know better.

[Fowack]

lightningPS3PS3 somethings different about you wonder what it could be

[0verdrive]

wow ive been waiting for this one for at least a year now. 2 hours 10 mins til midnight release and im stooooooked. i just hope it has the same overtone as the old fallouts, 2 was my favorite forsure. xD

[swiftshot93]

Bethesda better release a patch for bugs and trophies

[omodis420]

So sign out of PSN when you play. Big deal.

[theEnemy]

That's not an option.

A patch is indeed needed.

[Figboy]

i can't rate the graphics in comparison to the 360 version, but i can certainly rate the graphics by what i'm seeing on my 40" Samsung. and they are AMAZING.

my main gripe is that whenever someone on your friends list logs onto and off of their account, the game will pause for a second. other than that, BRILLIANT game. me and my fiance have been playing it almost exclusively (i did polish up my first LBP level and publish it today).

regardless of platform, this game needs to be in your library. it's just great fun.

[pwnsause]

well thanks for confirming at least that IGN isn't bullS**ting about that bug, hopefully Bethesda can patch it and throw in some trophies in the future at least just to make up for that DLC that's coming on the 360 version

[Figboy]

it's a REALLY annoying bug, and i'm hoping they patch it soon. it doesn't make any sense that the game would pause when someone gets on and offline, and sends you a message. no other game i have on my PS3 does this, so i don't get why this one does.

[Ju]

Your feedback is well appreciated. I can see myself getting it at some point, but currently its a bit crowed. The biggest problem I had with Oblivion was the fighting mechanic. I just couldn't get that right. Hope this is better, well, I think so. No swords.

[Figboy]

there are basically two ways to fight:

1: you play it like Oblivion, in that you aim your pistol (or melee weapon, including swords), and fire/swing away.

or

2: you use the V.A.T.S. system, which pauses the game, and lets you manually target a body part (or weapon), on the enemy. each body part is labeled with a percentage which indicates the chances you have of hitting the target (from 0%-95%).

using V.A.T.S. costs Action Points (AP), but it replenishes over time. the number of times you can fire/swing your weapon while using V.A.T.S. is determined by said AP. for example, i can currently shoot an enemy 4 times using V.A.T.S. this increases as i level up.

if i just manually shoot them, i can basically empty an entire clip, but you can use more ammo that way if you miss a lot.

i use the V.A.T.S. system most of the time (about 70% of the time or more), and manual aiming the rest, mostly against weaker enemies that take one shot to kill. since the AP meter refills so fast, i don't see why people WOULDN'T use the V.A.T.S. system.

i can't recommend this game enough for PC, PS3, and 360 owners. it's simply a must have.

i didn't like Oblivion (i liked PARTS of it, but i just got too bored with roaming around aimlessly), but i LOVE Fallout 3. i think it's the setting (i love Post Apocalyptic settings, especially with a 50's aesthetic). i feel right at home and comfortable in Fallout 3, despite not enjoying Oblivion (i preferred watching my fiance play, than play it myself. oddly enough, she likes Fallout 3, but likes Oblivion more in a lot of ways).

[Ju]

Thanx for the "rational" post. Bubble+ for what its worth.

[Skyyo]

Get it in a year!!!

I have no tie for this game atm.

[FBl]

And pull out yet another AAA gameplay experience tailored specifically for the Playstation 3

[fufotrufo]

Ahh i wonder how it feels to play the inferior AAA version on your ps3

9.6 Incredible > 9.4-Outstanding

why play the Outstanding version

when you can play the incredible version ??

Incredible version + Exclusive DLC = WIN

[GameDev]

look at the little bots try and try to convince people to invest in the MOST DEFECTIVE electronics device EVER MADE.

you guys are pathetic.

[Asane]

True, but prepare for RROD!!!
Its just what happens....

[omodis420]

It just goes to show that lead developing games on the 360 is hurting the PS3. Silly inferior Xbox.

[Mutley416]

Yah no time... SOCOM & RFOM2... these will keep me going till, KZ2...

[bomboclaatgamer]

oh i love ps3

[omodis420]

That's because you probably don't own one.

[cmrbe]

Get lost kid.

[omodis420]

Actually I found that rather witty. Unlike your lame attempt to talk down to me. I'm probably older than you are. Humor and sarcasm are good tools to get you through life. Don't get your chonies in a twist.

[cmrbe]

a GOTY contender as people already knows.

[bomboclaatgamer]

correction........."peopl e already know".

[yanikins111]

correction fail

[FBl]

I'll be buying the Limited Edition of Fallout 3 on Ps3 tomorrow,hopefully they'll still have some LE's in stock

[Gordon Freeman]

HAHA. The game of the year 2008 is superior on Xbox 360.

Fallout 3 360: 9.6/10

Fallout 3 PS3: 9.4/10

Plus we get exclusive DLC.

[PirateThom]

I think you'll find IGN scored Metal Gear Solid higher and I don't recall any 8s for LBP.

:)

Enjoy the Fallout 3 DLC, maybe it will arrive at the same time as the GTA DLC.

[bee2427]

i hate when people get excited about DLC... all it does is cause developers to leave more content out because they know shmucks will pay more for it and all they have to do it put it online it doesnt really cost them anything... you can have the exclusive DLC ... i will never pay more then $60 for any game

[ultimolu]

That's all you can brag about?

At least PS3 owners can enjoy new and refreshing IP's as well as multiplatform games.

You make me laugh.

[trancefreak]

I need a gaming charity fund for all this goodness. ps3 version here i come :)

[bomboclaatgamer]

good luck with the inferior version

[Gordon Freeman]

FBI is probably the best example of why the internet thinks that sony fanboys are an abomination to the world.

Nicely done dude!

[she00win99]

and vice versa..

[robotnik]

I thought Gordon didnt talk, but it seems he is a stupid xbot.

[bee2427]

personally I am a little tired of the 360 being the main system that these developers work on, they always mess up some minuscule Sh** ..... WORK AROUND FOR THIS BEFORE THEY PATCH IT = dont sign online while playing this game and it wont freeze

[psycho360]

Why dont you start developing for ps3 yourself? See how much you'll earn after 4 years of struggle with programming for randomly mismatched architecture and end up spending millions while the ROI is way below the redline.

[bee2427]

psycho im not saying its easy dude I dont know where I said that even a little bit, all i said was that the ps3 should be atleast the lead console for some multi-platform games so that they can pick up on these little mistakes before they make the game and then have to patch it... I hate buying a broken game obviously you dont mind paying $60 and not getting what you payed for

[Gordon Freeman]

Xbox 360 > PS3

That's the way things are. Stubborn sony fangirls.

[Chaos Striker]

Incorrect, that's a subjective opinion not the way things are. Only in your dreams. I never knew Gordan Freeman was this dumb in reality, even with a physics PhD. ;)

[jackdoe]

Real mature. You know, you and all the other trolling fanboys fighting over 0.2 are the reason why gaming isn't taken as seriously as it should be. You guys are a fvcking joke. Anyway, getting this one on the PC, the true superior version you fvcking 360 fanboys.

-edit- A disagree? I'd like to see how a 30fps Fallout 3 on the 360 is better than a 60fps Fallout 3 on the PC. Please enlighten me with your "logic"!

[Figboy]

has a game that can have more than 16 players online at once.

how many players MAX are in Gears of War 2 again? 10?

man, i'm really envious. all i've been playing is the Resistance 2 beta, that has 60 players simultaneous online battles...

*snicker* *snort* *chortle* HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH *breathe*reads 10 player max in Gears 2 again*HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

oh yeah, and MAG comes out next year, with 256 players....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHA

when does Huxley come out again?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH A

*ahem* sorry Xbox 360 fans, you guys are cool, but the fanboys bring out the fanboy in me sometimes.

i'm sure Gears 2 online will be very...cute. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*goes back to playing 8 player co-op and 60 player Resistance 2 beta, followed by an all night LBP session, with a little Fallout 3 PS3 (it's STILL a fun, kickass game, even if it gets a what, point 2 difference from the 360 version; yeah, like that's SUCH A BIG difference...*rolls eyes*)*

ah Gordon, whatever helps you sleep at night.

[TheCagyDies]

Now you can fit the entire PS3 online community in one game match!

Give me them disagrees and hate mail, yea...

[Rhoic]

It's called Huxley.. it's a MMOFPS with 250 v 250.. and if that's the only reason you think a game is good, you must own.. 1 game? lol.

[Rhoic]

and Huxley comes out in November ;)

[Chaos Striker]

Actually, Huxley is still TBA, and TBA 2009. That's what IGN is saying, not sure what other sites have as the release date. Plus, "if" it was coming out in November, we would have had a LOT of info about it. Considering that we don't, I highly doubt that the game will be coming out soon.

[TheExecutive]

oh for god's sakes. .2 is nothing to b*tch or brag about. You kids need to find something to do. The game is obviously great on both occasions. I hear all of this GOTY sh*t but when it comes down to it Fallout is in contention with two PS3 exclusives: MGS4 and LBP.

[MvmntInGrn]

So tired of the fighting.

.2 is nothing and the issues are patchable.

I suppose certain gamers need something to cling to, I mean Fable 2 is too glitchy and Gears 2 is basically gears one I mean they even have the same ending.

Its ok, give Fallout 3 a hug, I would want something to cling to as well.

[cyclindk]

No what I just noticed...my belly started to jiggle when I scratched it; I've been playing too many video games, but I can't stop- can't...stop...play..ing..AHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHH!

[Agent Orange]

The difference is only .2 and its because of the bugs and not the graphics or frame rate... Fable 2 also has lots of bugs in it, it can be easily fixed with a patch.

[FailStation3]

um, why review a port when u have the real thing on 360???

[CliffyBee]

Because other people, unlike you and me, can afford a PS3 :(

I wish I could develop for PS3. My games have a chance of being taken seriously then :(

SONY, GIELF JOBZ PLOX (Not the kind of job pp or FailStation3 give!)

[Infinite-Ammo]

Roll on Friday, really looking forward to this.

[marcindpol]

will buy it only if it gets trophys:(

sad but true, i want to play a game which is 100% completed!

[kazan]

wow ppl now argueing about a 9.4 WTF this is sooo ridiculous... on the PS2 and PS1 a game with 8 was a must and a game with 9+ was like a dream ,,

[wizerd]

you people can not be seriously arguing about 0.2 percent the only reason that ps3 scored lower was because of that psn freezing thing which is no big deal considering it will get patched or u can sign off if that did not exist it would be the same score all around the main thing i was worried about was the graphics and considering from reviews the xbox and ps3 graphics are equal then it dosent matter what one you get.

[Firstkn1ghT]

Do I really need to say it??? Another one for the good side! :)

[sajj316]

and here I thought IGN didn't care about bugs ... at least fixable bugs :) If those bugs get fixed through a patch ... will IGN go back and give it a 9.6? Thought so ...

Buy for PS3 confirmed then :)

[Salta_nelas]

Omg...comparing 9.4 to 9.6. What this has come to.

You are ridiculous, at the end of the day its still one more AAA title.

[s8anicslayer]

i realy never played any of the fallouts,but this one i will rent,currently busy with farcry 2 and little big planet

[svoltmer]

I'll be picking up the PS3 version simply because I can't stand how stinking loud the 360 is! Well that and the potential RROD and scratching games that the 360 is known for. Also I just upgraded my PS3's HD to a 320GB SATA2 that is much faster at game loads for only $89 (still very quiet). Something that I can't do on the 360. The 360 is a good gaming system, but essentially flawed with many mechanical defects that Microsoft refuses to address. So the only games I will be getting for the 360 now are exclusives.

[ultimolu]

.2 taken off the PS3's version and it's inferior.
...360 fanboys have some low standards these days.

[Rhoic]

And you go onto the 360 pages and troll.. HYPOCRITE! lol.

[Blink_44]

Good review!

[tbone4690]

You do know John Carmack believes the 360 is the better console, only downside he said is the disc space issue. Get your facts straight. Both are good systems both have their ups and downs. If Microsoft was to have blu ray it would probably be the best console out. Sony could of had an even better console if it had not rushed the cell processor out of development. The cell was supposed to be a gpu and cpu in one, but Sony wanted it sooner, in that case they screwed themselves from having the best console. They are saying that Sony may not even make a second console, not cause of the issues of the ps3, but because of the economic problems sony as a whole is having. We'll have to see.

[Radiodread]

once again the 360 version is the definitive version. HAHAHA it's always going to be this way droids, might want to jump ship soon, expecially with that overrated killzone 2 flop releasing next year. PS3 HAS LOST GIVE IT UP YOU MORONS.

[felidae]

yeah, i will get this for my 360 then.

[xionpunk]

I'm definitely picking this up. This is the game I've most looked forward to this year.

[acdata]

It's a shame, in light of these impressive design elements, that the PlayStation 3 version is shockingly inferior to the others from a technical perspective. Although the Xbox 360 and PC versions display the occasional visual oddity and bland texture, these nitpicks are easy to overlook. Sadly, the jagged edges, washed-out lighting, and slightly diminished draw distance of the PS3 release aren't so easy to dismiss. We also experienced a number of visual bugs on the PS3. Character faces disappeared several times, leaving only eyeballs and hair; limbs on robots went missing; some character models had an odd outline around them as if they were cel-shaded; and the day-to-night transition may cause odd streaks on the screen as you move the camera around. This version doesn't even offer trophies, whereas the Xbox 360 and PC versions offer Xbox Live/Windows Live achievements.

[Big Frank]

You would be an idiot to buy the PS3 version if you owned both consoles. But then again there are idiots that bought PS3 on launch day and have had to endure an inferior online service(no wonder it's free!) and have been waiting years for any number of quality exclusives on par with Halo 3, Bioshock(yeah it's on PS3 now, but once again the inferior version) and Forza 2.

[Rhoic]

While most of that was mean.. it is true that it would be somewhat a daft move not to choose the 360 version if you own both consoles. I mean.. deprivation is a hobby?

[Chaos Striker]

Idiot to buy a PS3? Tell that to the 15 million install base right now

Games on par with x, y, and z? That's all subjective...to some Halo isn't the next best thing to sliced bread. And for others, Heavenly Sword or MGS4 was on par with some of those games. Just because you think a specific game is great doesn't mean that others feel the same as well.

Inferior online? I feel that it is not inferior. It has satisfied and catered towards all of my needs. Could it be better? Of course, anything can be better. Do you think Xbox Live can better? If you answer yes and I hope you do, then that makes the inferiority theory null and void.

Finally, do you own a PS3? Cuz if you don't then you can't valid the comments that you just made.

[Ju]

@acdata And you cite this, because you can confirm what they said, right? And because ? Your intention is what now ? Save the 'idiots' who bought a PS3 from making another mistake. Or what is it?

[BEY]

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There you have it, more to add? GTA V

wat u got gears of war and halo thats it

[Premonition]

I have the PS3 version, so far so good, if your a real gamer this article wont bother you as much, but its funny I just sit here and laugh at people making fun the PS3 version when im having a good time playing the actual game in person.

[Kyur4ThePain]

It's hilarious how in one article people will post about they are true gamers and that's all that matters, and then when there's a 2% difference in review scores they're all over it like white on rice.
Sorry, but for those of you in here beating your chest...uh-uh, not gamers.

[Big Frank]

@ Chaos Striker
Yes thats what i said, idiots that bought a PS3. Although recently the console is starting to be worthwhile, it's still nowhere near the standard of XBOX. How can any gamer choose a PS3 over an XBOX, especially the people that have owned one since it was launched. The bottom line is there is more quality exclusives, subjective or not. When i look to purchase a game, there are more quality games available on XBOX that i can't buy for a PS3. I don't have one but my flatmate does and i have played it enough, it's like I basically owned one. He has owned his since launch day. I was genuinely shocked that someone with a choice could choose the PS3. PSN has improved but for a long time it wasn't even in the same league as Live. Yes it is free, but i can afford to pay for a superior service like most people can. PSN may cater to your needs but Live is a superior service, im not going to educate you on it, read any respectable article on it. PSN for a long time was a joke, I was shocked at how little it offered compared to Live. Yes Live can be better, anything can because nothings perfect, but how the hell does me agreeing to that make my statement null and void! I find your credibility as someone to have a forum discussion with fading.

Just because 15 million people own one, doesn't mean they're not idiots. Mass foolishness and stupidity does occur in the world. I bought my XBOX shortly after the PS3 came out. I did research on both consoles and played both to see which one is best for a gamer. Im not a fanboy, I didn't buy an XBOX because of the name, but because it was superior in every way. Better online service, more quality exclusives, rumble support, in game music and in my opinion the best controller ever made. And to this day those points still stand. That is what makes a games console, not because you can watch a blu-ray movie or because the online service is free. I also find it hilarious when people compare exclusives because games like Uncharted and Ratchet and Clank mentioned, both average hame hyped to the max by fanboys to make themselves feel better about buying an inferior console.

I've been playing games since the C64 days. You could say im hardcore and iv'e owned and played a lot of games on a lot of consoles. I could go on forever, but anyone who is honest or has half a brain would know what console to buy. Sony used the PS3 as a vehicle to launch Blu-ray and as a result their online service and games suffered. Most people that bought a PS3 is because they owned the previous versions or just because of the name. "Oh im buying a PS3 because the PS2 was great", "Im buying a PS3 because of Blu-ray". My flatmate was one of those people. I felt sorry for him, his PS3 gathered dust until MGS4 came out while he played Project Gotham, Gears, Forza, Halo 3, Bioshock and even COD4 on my XBOX because of game invites and custom sound. During this time he even came round to the controller because before he never really used any other than the PS one. He now agrees that the PS3 controller is a bit crap compared to it. Anyone that thinks Sonys controller is better hasn't got used to the Xbox one or is such a fanboy you refuse to believe it. Yes the D-pad is a bit off, but anyone would prefer better analogues to a D-pad because isn't the D-pad been basically obsolete since the N64 days? It's rarely used in gaming today.

Im in no way a fanboy. Im a consumer and a gamer.

Eagerly waiting for Operation Flashpoint 2 which should kick the pants off any first person shooter to date. Take note!

[KARMA2009]

The 360 cant handle it,the 360 has its limit's,thats why developer's arent doing it...

[mrnjl]

Frontlines: Fuel of War. You may want to look harder next time

[xg-ei8ht]

GHD - you fail hard with those numbers, You forget to take into account a few things.

Most 3rd party titles do not hardly use spu's, the guts of the machine.

Your pixel shader numbers are well off.

360 cannot do x4aa without tiling above 480p

That's why as well alot of newer 360 games have dithering problems, they don't have the quality, ati always had a problem with this. Nvidia produces higher quality at a slight cost.

Vertex is another problem area, alot of vertex work is supposed to be handled by the spu.

That's why ps3 is a complete machine.

PS3 does alot besides gaming.

blu-ray.
Browser.
Folding@home. Not worth doing on 360's poor processing power. and would cause some many rrod's.

We can all copy and paste bs numbers.

Are you aware the rsx has 28pixel pipelines, 4 disabled, but apparently operational from updated firmware.

Both systems have strength's and weaknesses, but overall but are capable systems.

[CrippleH]

I'm putting this on hold.

Resistance 2, Littlebigplanet, Gears of War 2 is too much for now and it'll hold me until Killzone 2.

I'm not falling for this right now. I don't want to go through another GTA4 and Oblivion which IGN overrated.

And This game got 2 year straight for E3 best game from IGN when the first year it wasn't even shown. So I'm seeing a Bias right now.

[GameForFame]

And I have yet to encounter single freeze, have yet to restart the console, have yet to encounter a progression bug, and have yet to have any freezing/momentary skipping from people signing off/on and receiving messages. I'm sure the latter is the result of me turning off notifications...everything is peachy on my end and many others as they've told me.

I think this whole PS3 version is being blown out of proportion...people are taking this sh*t and running with it, it's a bit ridiculous. I've gone through a humongous chunk of this game and no problems yet. It's not like it plays any different...not like it looks drastically different yet from what people are saying you think it would.

The PS3 architecture is a bit more tricky then the 360/PC - so when Bethesda tries to get this game out on time, matching the other release dates, they happen to pump out a game with a few issues...issues like I've said have yet to happen. Maybe I'm lucky, sure I've been reading about these issues...but if a game review states these issues and goes on to give it a 9.4 then they can't be a deal breaker...it's not like the game is broken or unplayable. I'm enjoying Fallout 3 as much as everyone else is...regardless of how they're playing it. Really is a great game and I'm sure it'll be patched in the future. Hopefully not too long, ya know, for those having issues.

[Immortal Kaim]

The people in here slinging mud are probably the ones that won't even play the damn game. Give it a rest, does a .2 difference (based on one site) really call for the childish comments from 'both sides'. Get over it, go play the game and leave these petty squabbles for the playground...

[TheDeadMetalhead]

is better on PS3. You know why? THE 360 USES LAST-GEN HARDWARE!! D: