'Red Dead Redemption 2' Is A Movie I Wanted To Turn Off After 20 Minutes, But Won't

Once again Rockstar has created a world in 'Red Dead Redemption 2' that creates a sense of amazement, slathered with frustrations.

[doggo84]

But let me guess, Fortnite is great! /s I can understand why a casual will find RDR 2 overwhelming.

[Shuckylad]

I find it a little overwhelming and I’ve been gaming for 30 years. But think that’s due to I only get chance to play an hour or so a day due to young family etc. I do fear it will end up on my pile of great games I never get into that recently has included god of war and horizon ZD.

[NotoriousWhiz]

I'm with you. I bought rdr2, but it's in my backlog. I probably won't even play it until Veteran's day. My kids will be at school, and my wife will be at work. But I'll be home alone for a sweet blissful 8 hours.

Of course, I doubt I'll ever beat the game. The only games I've beaten recently are those that can be beaten in < 30 hours.

[frostypants]

Worst is getting into it, walking away, then coming back and having no clue what the controls are. Looking at you, Witcher 3.

[TheDriz]

Agreed. I feel like I have no time for it already. It’s just too much for someone with my schedule. Not saying it’s bad but I much prefer the slightly more arcade style of the first one.

[UltraNova]

Wow its like those group therapy things here hahaha. I feel you guys...its ok to admit it, no one will judge you! RDR2 is frickin intimidating for people who can put in 2+ hrs per day in a game.

Frosty, the same thing happened to me as well, as a matter of fact I've never finished Witcher 3 to this day but I plan to...some day...

[rainslacker]

@frosty

That's every game for me. Which is why I try to complete games completely before moving on, otherwise I have to play all over again to get caught up again. It's fine when there is a new game plus trophy though.😀

[Tapani]

Young family here as well, working my ass off in the biz world. Horizon, BOTW and God of War I could easily complete. I have a feeling RDR2 main story will be the same. The Witcher 3 main story I could complete, but the DLC, which is supposed to be some of the best content, is another story. I'm too tired after work to play too much of anything, just watch the stock market go up and down to relax and spend time with the family. On weekends I game and do sports!

[cyclindk]

I hear ya! I have a similar sentiment, said this is a game I should play when I retire! I'm only 34... ;(

[bloop]

I feel you guys. I'm running my own business and working 7 days a week but still managed to get a good few hours in. That is of course at a cost, as I'd say I've had a total of about 12 hours sleep in the last 3 nights. D'oh!!!

[Imalwaysright]

Don't worry. You'll be able to finish those games when your kids go to college.

[Redlife2g]

Man I'm in the exact same boat as you are! I have a feeling I won't be able to finish it lol

[Ceaser9857361]

Lately I have notice the more older I get the more patience I become and start enjoying games. I am 30 years Now. And I take my time and play... Try for plat.. When I was young I use to rush games. I remember how long I took to finish Red dead 1 since most days I wouldn't play it... But now I take my time and enjoy the games I.play...

[Ceaser9857361]

Well I realized the more older I get the more I enjoy gaming.. When I was young I.use to rush. Wanting to finish a game quickly.. But now i realize I have become more patience. I don't rage quit. I enjoy my games and try for platinum trophy. I remember how long I took to finish Rdr1 and probably did the story mainly. But now with Rdr2 I am almost doing everything and taking my time..I am 30 years Now and enjoying games more than I did when I was in early 20s.

[Newmanator]

This is a common struggle people of all consoles can relate to. #workgamefamilybalance

[Kingdomcome247]

Don't worry, I too feel your pain. I promised myself that I would finish Spider-Man and Shadow of the Tomb Raider prior to RDR 2's release... yet, here I am just reaching Paititi in Shadow of the Tomb Raider, and three story missions into Spider-Man... I rarely get the chance these days to truly lose myself in these beautiful worlds.

[rdgneoz3]

Paying $60 for a game that has a ton of content in it, no micro transactions, looks beautiful, has a ton of customization in it, and is huge? Yah, I'd get bored of it too /s

[sammarshall102]

This

[frostypants]

I like RDR2, but lots of content doesn't necessarily make a game not boring. At the end of the day, gameplay is king.

[Concertoine]

While i agree RDR2 is a 60 dollar game through and through, we know microtransactions will be a big part of the multiplayer.

[TheDriz]

The content is there but I’m not sure it’s very good. It’s fine for people who have the time to live a second life but my first life is more interesting, important, and takes too much of my time to go hunting and make coffee in a video game. I’m not saying it’s bad at all and I would have loved this game 6 years ago but at this point in my life I just don’t have time.

[rainslacker]

Complaints I've seen seen to indicate that's it's more tedious than boring. Most say the world is engaging, so I can't see how that would get boring. The tedium is from the excessive micro management.

[Snookies12]

@frostypants - You're saying the gameplay isn't good in RDR2? It's completely fine. The only thing I personally found wrong with it. Was that the aiming sensitivity was too low, and there was auto lock-on turned on by default. Other than that, it's brilliant. People saying it's 'boring' just don't have the patience needed for a slower paced game. That's fine and all, but people need to stop acting like it's a bad game just because they can't grasp what's so wonderful about it.

[l3w1s]

But RDR is the epitome of a casual game, what are you talking about?

[doggo84]

What is considered a "Hardcore" game then?

[Snookies12]

Just like your comment is the epitome of trolling?

[badz149]

@i3w1s

a wild "RDR2 is the EPITOME of a casual game" comment appeared out of nowhere! I LOL

[Armaggedon]

A "hardcore" game would be a title where gameplay and challenge are typically king. A "casual" game is a game in which presentation and accessibility are king. This is of course debatable.

[l3w1s]

@doggo84

I don't know, I don't usually care about some arbitrary criteria like "hardcore" or "casual". But if Fortnite is considered "casual" by the guy above, isn't RDR2 also casual, seeing how many people play both?

[jukins]

Wow calm down lol. Dont be so butthurt. Casual or not rdr 2 is slow. And just as the article said it's pretty predictable and standard fare as far as rockstar games go. Travel here with crew listen to story on the way get fired upon kill and then do some survival take on some quests where again you travel with your crew to be fired upon bbby whatever deputy or gang. Rinse and repeat and fill in with "survival" tasks.

I dont even like fortnite but being able to get in snd out of a game and play how you want in short bursts fits anyone's gameplay style or habits.

I always fall for rockstar hype and bits always the same bigger more detailed and nuanced but really the same. Online may save this game for me but as of now I'm already tired of slow horse rides and gunfights.

[doggo84]

"Travel here with crew listen to story on the way get fired upon kill and then do some survival take on some quests where again you travel with your crew to be fired upon bbby whatever deputy or gang."

Anyone can break down a game like that and make it seem bad. That says nothing about the quality of the story or the game itself though. I can't really comment on the story, but for the bit i've played, i have definitely enjoyed. This game is a graphical and technical power house. Of that there is NO question. The gameplay is a step above the first game and have added so much detail and depth into just about every system (weather, hunting, etc.) . There is a lot to appreciate about RDR 2. I Guess i choose to support great devs that make great games like RDR 2. So screw me for liking a masterpiece i suppose!

[n1kki6]

Its not overwhelming, its boring. The lengths fans will go to justify a boring game because its rockstar is not suprising however. But any other cowboy simulator that is essentially an average waling simulator and a poor 3rd person cover shooter would get absolutely destroyed.

[Elda]

Pretty much! I've seen comments where folks were going to stop & drop everything in their life for RDR2 as if it's the second coming & with RDR2 being my first RDR game I personally find it ok & being somewhat of a chore.Hopefully Chapter 2 will be more entertaining & fun.

[deafdani]

Stop being a fanboy. People have a right to like or dislike stuff, even if you personally feel different. By the way, I find Fortnite boring as fuck, but I understand why other people find it fun and I getting all elitist and having a sense of superiority based on the kinds of games we play is immature. You have some growing up to do.

[Christopher]

I just finished AC Odyssey, got the platinum trophy.

R. D. R. 2. Is. Way.Too. Slow. It's freaking molasses.

This 'casual' B.S. you're spreading is just gatekeeping at its finest. The game should be called out for its flaws like any other. It's an almost 3-hour tutorial where the majority of the time you're watching a cut scene or holding 'x' to follow others on horse. Your movement is slow. Aiming is slow. You spend more time 'finding' things because you have to run into everything and look for the prompt in the bottom right of the screen rather than having it front and center.

A ton of this game is artificial inflation of game time. It's still a quality story, very pretty, and has some good gameplay, but it's got issues that will definitely frustrate a lot of gamers. And not just the ones you like to mock for enjoying the type of games they like to enjoy.

[rainslacker]

Edit: meant this as a reply to someone else, but my oozing sarcasm works for your comment too. Although I k ow you don't appreciate that kind of thing too much. Sorry about that.

But....accepting those flaws makes one hardcore....

😥 I wanna be hardcore dammit.

It's even harder core when you can tear other games apart for things which aren't even bad overall....Or say it's nothing new. That's what we call the hardest of the hard. They're so core, they're centers are inside out.

[DerekTweed]

I went straight from AC: Odyssey to RDR2 as well and the contrast was shocking, AC is so smooth and fast paced, the character movement is great, go anywhere, climb anything.

Even the horse riding is better, especially the auto-ride, go to objective marker system works really great.

The one button press to loot all nearby enemies is also nice.

[BenRC01]

Rdr2 is the only casual game here.

[Segata]

I have not played RDR2 but I have been gaming since the mid-80s. I have a good-sized collection and I will say most modern games esp open world games are getting rather complex. So many systems and subsystems. Sometimes it's nice to go to something simpler once in a while. Don't tell me simpler is more casual because I don't think MUSHA (I've been playing a lot of older games on repeat and Genesis games today) is for casuals.

[shaenoide]

I am not a casual player But I have never seen such a long tutorial (3 hours or so) which explain so little.

[Zenbaby369]

not gonna lie, i watched someone stream it for about 20 minutes and wanted to mute it :( the conversations are god awful to me

[Artemidorus]

You have to use your brain in this game, no pay to play here, you have cheats though if you can find them.

[frostypants]

RDR2 isn't difficult. It's a great story-driven game with fun side quests. It's not a thinking man's game though...same as most Rockstar games.

"Mash triangle to make Arthur put wheel on wagon"

"Oh God, WHAT DO I DO?!"

/s

[Christopher]

What? There's nothing in this game that requires anymore brain activity than most other games out there.

[King_Noctis]

Side activities like Hunting require tracking and stealth. You can’t just run and shoot them up like it is world war 2.

While it does not require the brain of Einstien, it nonetheless still require a degree of planning and thinking.

[Christopher]

I disagree on that. Pressing L3, moving slower, and then hitting L3+R3 to follow a highlighted track while then shooting from range... that's not a difficult task compared to... I dunno, fighting a common enemy in a Souls game, managing materials in a Sim/World Builder game, doing combat combos in a fighting game, and tons more games that actual require way more thinking, let alone some of them in a rapid response manner.

[iplay1up2]

The graphics are fantastic. I am a little bored by the game so far though. It is just not grabbing me. I am only just now in the town of Valentine though. I have not had a ton of time to play. I hope it hooks me.

[xenz]

I felt the same way until I got to Valentine. I litteraly went from slightly dissappointed to being immensly immersed. It's definatly the best game I've played this year so far besides God of War

[UltraNova]

Yeah...GoW and Spider-Man are immensely more fun than RDR2. But RDR2 is the more detailed and visual arresting game by far.

So far I'm still leaning towards GOW for the gotya.

[boing1]

I know what you mean. My first reaction was 'overhyped much?' but after the intro (mountains) I became so immersed it's crazy. Definitely grows on you with time.

[frostypants]

The intro portion of the game is waaaay too drawn out. They should've cut a good 50% of that. Once you get to where you are, it starts to open up and become more engaging.

[boing1]

I concur.

[wwinterj]

It's a methodical pacing to the game. Starts of slowly then picks up. Much like most great games or films for that matter. I'm only in chapter 3 at the moment though.

[PapaBop]

I'm actually surprised Rockstar was even allowed to make this game really. After GTA 5's success, I never expected them to go off in such a different direction. Personally I love the game so far but I can completely understand why others don't, it's big and beautiful that all but forces you to take it slow and appreciate all the detail. GTA 5 on the other hand while still having a staggering amount of detail, you could play it as fast as or as slow as you wanted, the sandbox was just pure undiluted fun. While both games are considered adult games, it's pretty obvious GTA has far more mainstream appeal while RDR 2 is a more mature game.

[jukins]

I'm an older gamer and this one is even too slow for me. I'd honestly much rather jump into gta online just to mess around than to horse ride slowly around a huge map eh just my opinion

[King_Noctis]

Then this game is not for you. When people say the game is slow I feel like they are still in the introductory chapter. The game pace will start to pick up once you reach Valentine.

[xenz]

I totally agree. I do love GTA V but for different reasons. I just love all the small details they've put into this game. While I do understand that people may get bored by maintaining core stats and all those micromanaging thats going on, it has a different effect on me and has me completly immersed in this game world

[jukins]

See I absolutely loved red dead. And wished there was more story after I completed it but this one for some reason I just cant. I've been able to platinum recent games like gow (on hardest) Detroit too human and spiderman which involve alot tedious or monotonous things. Ivr basically been forcing myself to get into rdr2 in hopes that it will pick up but I'm already meh. Dont get me wrong I can see that it's a good game but I think it's just too big all things considered for me right now.

[wwinterj]

I wouldn't see any point doing a GTA: Wild West edition when you already have GTA V/Online making the money. RDR 2 and probably RDR Online offers a alternative that will get more people spending who might not have liked GTA Online. Hell perhaps even some folk will spend money on both. Options are always welcome.

[rainslacker]

I'm not a fan of gta, but i do have to agree, the pacing is much better based on my limited time with rdr2.

Rdr2 is trying to to something different with the sand box formula, and while there is nothing wrong with that, as I don't mind slower paced games, more consideration should have been given to if what you do on the game is fun....Or fun enough to do for 50+ hours.

[nyu1]

"I'm actually surprised Rockstar was even allowed to make this game really. After GTA 5's success, I never expected them to go off in such a different direction."
" it's pretty obvious GTA has far more mainstream appeal while RDR 2 is a more mature game."

Good point, and can I just say that this is what makes me so confident in Rockstar. It shows that at the end of the day, the driving force for their game is their creative vision above all else. The fact that they went this route when other games shy away because they're too scared to make these decisions. Will it make the game boring for some ? Absolutely. Will it mean that some people who don't have much time won't be playing this game ? Definitely.

Is it worth it ? 100%. They have a grand vision for a game, and they stick with it. They deal with the consequences, but also reap the rewards.

There's been a lot of negative press for Rockstar, and I really hope they improve where they have to... but I really admire them for what they've done here.

[Skankinruby]

Rockstar finally makes a game that isn't so damn pointless and they get flack for it? I don't get gamers these days, GTA 5 and the first RDR bored me to tears. I must just not be meant for these shallow games the core fanbase was expecting

[doggo84]

Im in 100% agreement with you. Couldn't get into GTA V. Thought it was a technically second to none but the game felt run of the mill and boring. Same as the first red dead redemption imo.

RDR 2, however, i cant stop thinking about great this game is. Everything just fits into place and works and im having a blast with it. My jaw dropped when i first fired this game up.

[AizenSosuke]

But Fortnite and COD are better.../s

[Psychotica]

If you love western movies like Jeremiah Johnson, High Plains Drifter etc you will love the look and feel of this game. I really haven't done much illegal activity yet in this game which will add a lot of excitement I am sure. I have been doing some of the first few missions and exploring the map to get a feel how big it is. The only thing that disappoints me a little is the inability to climb the mountains, even small basic hillsides will cause your character to slide down. I guess I am disappointed because I have been playing with AC:Odyssey where you can climb just about anything. Also, the frequent requests for help along the side of the road gives the feeling of a western style AAA road side service.

[smolinsk]

Ohh I'm just so tired of hearing dads complain about not having any time to game,you put yourself in that situation, deal with it, organize your life to make time, prioritize and make the gaming stuff in your life more important. Everything is possible if you want it enough.

Don't make it a RDR 2 problem like the game is to blame, silly. It's an amazing game in and out.

[The_Sage]

Do you know what the number one priority of a father is?.. Taking care of his family. Gaming should be pretty low on the priority list. I play on the weekends in the morning before other activities of the day begin. Spending time with my Wife and child are endlessly more important.

That said... I'm still able to fully enjoy and complete every game. I have 0 games in backlog. I only play one game at a time and do not switch until it's completed.

[The_Sage]

Wow. There are people that do not agree that a father's number one priority should be taking care of his family. I weep for the future.

[smolinsk]

You misunderstood me, I'm saying that family life is not number one, I'm saying don't blame the game because you don't have time, like you are sad that your life is this way and there is no time for gaming, prioritize and make it happen, just like you.

[scorpio_2049]

The people who don’t agree that a father’s number one priority should be taking care of his family didn’t have a father who had that as the top priority.

Our kids give us greater joy than a video game can anyway.

[Elda]

That's a married/family life something some so called adults here don't understand.

[BioShockGX]

Single life FTW

[Elda]

When family,ones job & priorities comes first in most cases there is no time to game, that's their valid complaint knowing they're not a kid anymore when one didn't have priorities but school & some chores.

[King_Noctis]

Then it is their problem, not the game’s problem.

[Elda]

@ K Noctis....Fanatics with no life would say that.

[King_Noctis]

Calling people “no life” for balancing life and gaming time. Such a classy act. I don’t know what you are doing on a gaming site.

[The_Sage]

It seems to me that people like you are what's wrong with the world today, smolinsk. I'm shocked that you would directly admit that you believe family life is not number one. I hope that was a typo.

For the record, I am very happy. My relationship with my Wife is beyond what most people will ever understand. We still would rather spend time together than do anything else even after 20 years of marriage. That's true happiness. My priorities are perfectly in line.

As a side note, my Wife and Son also play games.

[smolinsk]

I ment to say, it was missing a not in the text. It's like this.

 I'm not saying that family life is not number one, I'm saying don't blame the game because you don't have time, that some are sad that there life is this way and there's no time for gaming, prioritize and make it happen, just like you. You make it happen, good for you.

[The_Sage]

Got ya... That makes sense. I never would be upset that a game were long just because I'm busy. Like you said, you have to figure out a way that works for you. My way is only playing one game at a time. It took me nearly a month to finish God of War.

[The_Sage]

One of those impatient people that will probably never finish the story. The, I just want to shoot and destroy stuff, type.

[Skankinruby]

Exactly

[2pacalypsenow]

It's a bit slow at the beginning, but after you get past the first part is really good.

[JackBNimble]

The first chapter is basically a tutorial, of course it's slow

[yomfweeee]

You hardly do anything in the first chapter, so that would be a terrible tutorial.

[King_Noctis]

Uhh...you learn how to shoot. How to hunt. How to craft item. How to interactive with NPC. How to eat/sleep/drink. Heck, you even do your first heist in the first chapter.

If that is not a tutorial then I don’t know what is.

[yomfweeee]

Sorry, all I remember was holding X to follow the leader. So fun. Some drawn out part of the story that seemed to be some stupid way to explain John's scars. Pointless.

[King_Noctis]

Explaining John’s scar is not pointless. If you had been a RDR fan since the first one, you would be glad to know where the scar comes from.

[yomfweeee]

I was a fan of RDR. They didn't have to dedicate a drawn out 15 minute part of the game where we're yelling for John. It was so stupid. "Oh, I can hear him over here" and then you have to walk down and around this mountain like you somehow knew exactly where he was.

[Kuma]

Yes, It is like being in a movie but the movie is mostly a good one

[TheOtherMoon]

In some ways I understand the authors view of the game. I can remember being 17, playing Mass Effect for the first time; it only last 2.5 hours. It was way too much for me to handle at the time. I waited about year, and came back to it after reading up on the game and its mechanics. Taking-time away and coming back to it really helped -- its now my favorite trilogy in gaming.

RDR2 is overwhelming to start, and takes some learning -- I was foolish and spent money on resource and cloths at the store, only to realize three days into playing that there was a ledger for me to upgrade the camp. Thinking about food, grooming, clothing, etc. adds an incredible amount debt to the game. What makes the depth great is that it fits in with the story -- something tells me that life in the wild west was relatively stressful and overwhelming. With that said -- I never finished the last GTA, and didn't want to go back online given how advanced everyone else was in that crazy city.

[bigmalky]

Aye, it's a bit daunting to start with. It takes so long to do certain things, but I'm immersed in it so much now.

Get a couple of the yellow story quests done when you get to Valentine and it all starts getting much better.

[jznrpg]

I am loving Red Dead . I love the pacing it makes me feel like I am in a cowboy movie . I don’t have a lot of time to play right now so I wait until my kids are in bed and play as long as I can. It’s a great game , the immersion is top notch

[milohighclub]

I don't get why people have bought this game if they are going to complain they don't have time to play it... We all knew it was gonna be big. They even gave a timeframe before release.
And to everyone complaining about the clunkiness of it, have you never played a Rockstar game before? That's how they feel! This is the best they've made and tbh by a long shot. It doesn't even feel that clunky. People just need something to complain about. I wonder how many of these people are actually playing it.
I'm a good 7/8 hours in and it's brilliant. Game of the year for me.

[ReesesPuffs]

That really is the funniest part of the entire argument coming out of people. Every Rockstar game since GTA IV has controlled like this. What were people expecting.

[yomfweeee]

Sorry, but I disagree. I couldn't stop playing GTAV. It is the only game I ever bought a second time (first was on PS3 and then I bought it again on PS4). That game was from the beginning. I'm not getting that same impression from RDR2.

[xenz]

I must admit, the controlls felt very cluncky at the beginning, but a few tweaks in the settings remedied all of my problems. Still not very good at hand to hand combat, but I guess thats just me sucking at it, lol

[ShelbyGT350]

I find it funny that people seem to think a game that’s deep and engaging cannot also be pickup and play accessible.

Most of the “problems” so far like limited fast travel locations, losing your loadout, etc. could be addressed in future patches while preserving the core integrity of the game. It will be interesting to see how Rockstar responds to some of the player criticism.

No game is perfect, even if reviewers hand perfect scores.

[pyroxxx]

Think menu system is too convoluted,.. for it's own good (and inputs are strange as hell Hold this ,.. now choose with otherside,.. now release on the other side of controller to use,.. I am like holding 5 things switching to grab a smoke),..I don't like explosiveness of running animation in big cities (to much population and moving things kinda makes it really hard to control,.. I get into lot of trouble because of it),..

But then I go into theater,.. and go up-close,.. and It is so well animated ,.. Just have to say damn,.. this game is some next level stuff

[yomfweeee]

I've put in a few hours. I'm up to the part where I've collected one of the first debts and unlocked the ledger. To me it has been a slow start. I'm not that impressed with the fun factor so far. I'm going to keep playing and hoping I hit that fun part soon.

That intro was so dragged out. They made it seem like they had traveled for weeks and weeks to get away from Blackwater. But it's literally just a couple towns over and you can ride your horse there in 5-10 minutes.

[scorpio_2049]

I’m having a blast playing the game. It’s not full excitement every moment but it’s still fun.

What annoys me is I buy a new hat. Later in a random encounter I have to save someone from a fight. I fight their antagonizer. I kill him. I see a hat on the ground. The antagonizer must have dropped it. I’ll pick it up but I don’t have time because I then am told someone saw me kill the guy so I have to chase him down. I finish that up. I notice my hat isn’t on my head. I go to put it on. I realize that was my hat I paid good money for that fell off in the fight. Realistic yes. But that’s irritating. Luckily I wasn’t far from the hat and I retrieved it. But if I hadn’t realized that was my hat that fell on the ground I’d easily have no idea later where it went after that fight was barely a memory.

Maybe it would have gone to some chest of lost items in my camp. I don’t know.

Still a very fun game.

[Elda]

My bestie bought 2 copies & gave me one.It's our first time playing a RDR game & we both came to the conclusion so far that the game starts off very slow story wise & game play,the shooting parts were fun but everyone acting as if this game is the second coming to me it clearly is not...lol! So far the game is just average to me & that's not a bad thing, hopefully in time it gets better.

[GameGod26]

World building = slow lol gamers love to complain

[joab777]

I have an article that won’t make the hottest list, “RDR2...the most realistic world ever created that I never want to leave...and all the whiny idiots that require a constant power complex to enjoy anything.”

It’s buried deep so look hard for it!

[mkv89]

Yeah, sure.
So, RDR2 it's a movie...but EVERY single Sony exclusive triple A game released on this year isn't, right?
Spiderman isnt a interactive movie , GOW neither. YISUS
2018 , almost November and the fantastic press editor triggered the new dynamic on action-narrative games. A dynamic that Sony is renting from a lot of years on this generation.
is it so hurting? Really dude? RDR2 has "stole" the
Sony's GOTY. Ok , you should assume and stop crying . Now the problem is a game-movie. CASUALLY dudes, casually. A fact that a label is reapeating all this gen and there wasnt any problems. ANY critic from the press.
Now, rockstar do the same with an open world and guess what?
Ohh noo , turn off your system people, rockstar has created a interactive movie!!!.
What a shame! The SAME press that silenced this fact in uncharted, Spiderman, gow (or the next last of us ) now triggered this like an issue. It's a fucking joke folks.
See all international press, see the reviews, this fact, this gaming trend was appreciated like a good factor for narrative, story telling on third person tittles. The graphics details has great benefits with this proposal, all was positive, and now this is a problem .
Yeah sure hahahahah. Ey editor, you have tattoed the PS logo on your arm?

[trouble_bubble]

You can go on reddit right now and see Xbox users complaining about the same issues.

Whatcha Bringing up Spider-Man for? That game got murked for puddles. You rockstars I swear LOL! 97 metacritic but still can’t handle a whiff of criticism.

[pyroxxx]

There are some problems with how it controls sometimes,..You really have to get a good feel with speed and inertia,.. but there are plenty of options to tweak them (think I have to tweak the dead zones,.. really having a shit day with bears ,.. and wolves sometimes,.. there is also a learning curve and adaptation thing (thank god I have 2 PS4 controllers ,.. (Should fix One ,.. (I actually know what the problem is) ,.. because you work so many inputs at once sometimes,.. does a shitstorm to battery life I'd guess) ,.. I am seriously having issues now only in Saint Denise ,.. because too many npcs and moving stuff and when you try to move fast ,.. bad things happen,.. hope that will improve with learning,..

Also think the menu system is so fucked up and unintuitive I still have to basically think what I am doing way too much,.. and that is after 20 hours,..You select items with one side of controller,.. than depress the other side ,.. It is a kinda a mental workout I am sure 40 hours in everything will click,.. just think it is pretty strange still. also never thought you needed timing based button presses for a different options If I press Options button ,.. it brings me to the menu,.. u i linger a split sec long longer on the button it brings me to map,.. I mean it is an interesting concept,.. and you get used to it and good at it,.. it will just take to long for some people,.. There is something to say about depth,.. there is something to say about consistency (or perceived one) ,.. that kinda matters

Otherwise,.. a brilliant game

[No Way]

Idk, I'm thoroughly enjoying it. The detail is astonishing. The choices you make, in certain situations, will cause adverse effects. Side missions are cool. Enjoy the characters. The random events are nice. I've had a blast with it. Not every game is for everyone.

[Da12RespectA]

It's a great great game nevertheless.

[Einhander1971]

Exactly games are to big now for gamers that have a life. Personally I play more retro now because it’s instant fun. Playing 2D shooters like Rtype, Raiden fighters etc gives me more pleasure than pissing around with endless side quests and overblown campaigns.

[TheEroica]

I'm having a blast with it... It plays and feels like a better version of RDR1... Even with the added cinematic flair and increased amount of story telling in all missions. I just did 3 missions over an hours time... Hijacked a couple wagons, worked a mission for John Marston, drank and sang songs at my camp... I'm having an outstanding time with the game...

If you're looking for pure gameplay, go play dead Cells of the Messanger... Rdr unfurl it's genius over a few hours before you feel the exact same flow as you did in RDR1.