Quit B**ching About Cyberpunk 2077 Being An FPS

In Cyberpunk 2077 you have a fluid class system where you can level up in any category and become anything you want. After that, the real fun began.

[-Foxtrot]

Why is it that anytime someone has concerns it's automatically considered "bitching" and people will go on the attack. No one has said it's going to be shit or called the quality of the game so I don't see why people are frothing at the mouth when they see someone just simply say "Oh it's a shame, I was hoping for third person"...

[morganfell]

Its coin-drop. Have you not borne witness to some of the drivel from that site?

[SirCupcakes91]

You should try writing sometime if you think you're so good. What's so drivel about my article?

[Eonjay]

A lot of these writers are children and they express themselves by projecting themselves onto the reader and somehow try to simultaneously define the readers perception so that they can pretend to have a conversation with someone who frankly doesn't exist. They tell you how you feel, what your feelings mean, and why they know better than you. Its a emasculated ego thing where they can't express themselves in normal conversation.

[3-4-5]

Trash site....block it.

[morganfell]

Start with the title. A demand, complete with sophomoric profanity, that gamers stop expressing their opinion...ironically from an article that is in and of itself an opinion. If you are afraid of getting it whacked off, then do not stick it out there.

@3-4-5,

Another one for the hosts file.

[SirCupcakes91]

Saying it's a shame it's not third person is one thing. Being pissed off about it is another. If you're not pissed off about it than you're not the one bitching about it right? But many people are.

[-Foxtrot]

I'm annoyed and disappointed...but p***** off where I think the game is "now shit", not really I'm still getting it regardless.

I just think it's a shame considering how they've talked and teased the game for the past 5 years, especially customization.

[LiamKreptic]

And? Why don’t you stop bitching about other people bitching? Why does it bother you so much that people are making their voice heard? Jeez

Edit: Hey, I don’t mind the First person view tho...it’s CD’s vision anyway. Let them make what they want to make.

[SirCupcakes91]

Well from what I saw at E3 you'll see a lot of your character. Granted it will be only in cutscenes. I agree it could have been nice to see a 3rd person camera mode but the time it'd take them to redo animations and make that look as good as the first person mode would probably add quite a bit to development. Either way. The game's gonna be fantastic. And the Title was more of an attention grabber, gotta get them clicks :D

[TheSaint]

Literally admitting clickbait, this is why bloggers like you are despised.

[Alucard_420]

yeah the fact that you admitted to do sleezy work, I will never ever trust an opinion from a person like you. What you just admitted to, is your not good enough with your own skills to enlighten the public with proper education about your article. You need to rely on cheap tactics to get clicks.

[RainbowBrite]

Haven't you read the comments here and in forums? Every whining kid on the neighborhood is saying that the game is gonna be sht. "Because I want the Witcher in a cyberpunk setting waaaaaaaa"

[leoms]

There are also alot of kids that are saying that every games should be FPP

[Link2DaFutcha]

Really seems like the FPS decision is more of a design choice. We haven't seen gameplay and there are already lots claiming to boycott/calling CDPR S*** because of it. It's going to be in a crowded city, probably filled with narrow alleys and indoor settings, 3rd person would be very annoying if the camera constantly has to swing around/avoid environmental interference. 1st person makes sense if the environment is going to be super crowded and full of stuff. Most of witcher 3 takes place outside in an open environment. Lets wait to see gameplay before freaking out.

[Kerplunk80]

Why is it any random article I click on you have made a comment about it foxtrot? You seriously need a life and mental help.

[-Foxtrot]

Bite me

300 articles
Comment on like 10-15
Suddenly “need a life”

🙄

[nibblo]

Own your bitchiness

[ClanPsi1]

Because people were literally bitching. One wanker on another article here was crying and stated specifically he wouldn't buy it because it's 1st-person. Hasn't seen any gameplay, doesn't know much about the game, nothing. Whiners everywhere.

[medman]

+foxtrot
I think that many people have indeed been moaning and whining, claiming they will never play the game, or saying the decision to make Cyberpunk fps is akin to some kind of mortal sin.

I have no problem with people having concerns, but I would suggest having some faith that if CD Projekt decided to go the fps route, they did so because they felt that is the absolute best way to deliver the experience and game they dream of making. Give them some credit, and the respect they've earned based on their achievements and quality, and at least wait to be "disappointed" until you see actual gameplay and get more of a feel for what they're trying to achieve. Too many people are dismissive out of hand without having any real tangible sense of what the game even is at this point.

[darx]

Concerns?

[Ceaser9857361]

Damn! i so so so so so so wanted Cyberpunk to be Third person

But i will need to see the gameplay 1st and more gameplays to decide whether this game is worth my time or not
I trust CDPR so lets see

[gamer9]

Oh people are definitely b**ching about cyberpunk being FPS. including questioning the quality of the game and calling CDPR names.. you need to check out some more comment sections on N4G if you haven't seen this

[TheOptimist]

I loved the first para:

"They’ve stated that “sometimes just walking down the street in 3rd person and admiring the details on your customized character and how they walk, react etc is a truly unique feeling”. With as massive as the world is, as interactive as the world is, and as highly detailed as the world is, I’m far more invested in the world around my character than my character."

It completely depicts the self centered (Or entitlement you could say) and sensitive mentality of most modern gamers. And yeah for the people above saying "Who is bitching?", just check out the Witcher groups on Facebook. Not really a depiction of the whole crowd, but there are enough people bitching about it. ANd if that's not eough, CDPR had to damage control by saying "It's an RPG first and FPS later". Enough proof that many ar bitching, not just dissatisfied or concerned.

[franwex]

Funny how they cannot really change the protagonist in the Witcher anyway. So to me people are just looking for something to complain about.

[Antifan]

I love that part about how gamers are self-centered, especially with RPGs. I remember a lot of folks complaining about how Geralt was a locked-in character and you couldn't change his appears. And if they didn't add character creation, it was a 'no buy' for them.
Funny how history repeats itself, and it's also funny how those naysayers instantly disappeared after its release.
All CDPR has to do is release their masterpiece to shut these clowns up.

[Blu3_Berry]

It's called opinion. Get the f**k over it. Everyone is entitled to their own thoughts on it being first person.

[Veneno]

Will you please just stop b*tching?

[PhantomS42]

Don't like it that's fine just don't buy it and don't cry on every internet discussion thread about it. Devs are going to make what they want to make. CDPR has a good track record so there is no reason to doubt they can't handle this.

[RainbowBrite]

Yeah I have an opinion on people complaining about this... that they are whining ltl b

[starchild]

Don't buy it then. Your loss.

I wonder if someone went into every article about Ghost of Tsushima and bitched about it being 3rd person or about its approach to combat if a lot of you would be so understanding. I somehow doubt it. I think that person would be met with a lot of hate, called names and told to get the hell out. In fact, I'm certain that's exactly what would happen.

My point is not that Ghost of Tsushima deserves to be complained about. Quite the opposite. It's one of my most anticipated games. My point is, there's a double standard prevalent on this site. I don't think a lot of the complaining is sincere. I think some people are just jumping on a bandwagon and finding something to complain about in order to try to downplay this game.

[leoms]

I don't see the link with Ghost of Tsushima. Is it the same genre?

[TheCommentator]

It's all just a matter of perspective. ;P

[RainbowBrite]

You know what CD Project should do? They should just stop entirely being creative and just take a poll in the internet, at let them decide each single aspect of the game. Let the kids on the internet decide!. Or better yet stop being unique, stop following your instincts about what is appropriate or not for a game , Creativity is overrated!!! and just give us the same crap every other studio usually give us

[Sirk7x]

You know, there are people who would actually agree with that. I can hear it.
"It's my money, I'm a customer, we should get to decide how it is!"

[GamingSinceForever]

Quit bitching about people bitching. All y’all sound like some b!+c#es right now. Lol!

[Chaos_Order]

I was already hyped for 2077 when I saw the E3 trailer. When I learned it would be first person I became even MORE hyped. As a massive fan of the Deus Ex series (minus Invisible War) I feel I will be right at home.

That said, people who would prefer third person are completely entitled to their opinion. Gamers want different things, and that's okay. Labelling it as "b****ing" is a bit much IMO.

Personally, I have to wonder if they can't have an option for both. Obviously if there are aspects of the game that would be difficult to do in 3rd person or some that are specifically designed around first person interaction then by all means, that's reason enough to enforce a particular perspective. (I wouldn't want to play a first person Uncharted or a third person Doom, for example) But otherwise they might want to think about it.

[TheOptimist]

Invisible War was great.... It maybe wasn't as great as Deus Ex, but it's beter than most modern shit we get these days

[spicelicka]

Doesn't even matter. They already chose FPS by design. You can't just switch an FPS focused game to TPS, mainly because of cover mechanics.

[jukins]

I'm excited about it. But I will say with it being fps PC is where I'll play it.

[xenz]

It's funny. People want devs to have complete freedom to make the game they want to make. But as soon as someone, in this instance CDPR, has a vision for the game that differs from others expectations, they almost want to force them to implement features that may alter the game altogether.

CDPR wants to make an FPS this time around, and if you dont like it then simply not buy it.

[milohighclub]

Sorry dude, you're right i shouldn't be bothered about waiting six years for a glimpse of a game from a studio known to make awesome third person games only to find out its got a camera view that i dont enjoy and actively avoid in games.
Cheers for making me see shit the errors of my ways.

Quit telling people what to do?

[DrumBeat]

"Quit telling people what to do?" How ironic.

[milohighclub]

Is it? The irony is lost on me.
So it's fine for him but not for me?

[zodiac909]

Seriously, Project RED knows what they are doing. Most people haven't even seen gameplay yet, and they are complaining left n right.

[Nacho_Z]

The only people I'll really take seriously who complain about first person in Cyberpunk are the ones who physically can't play because of motion sickness or whatever. As for everyone else they have no idea how well FP works for this game or how well it fits the gameplay because they haven't played it.

The complaint about not seeing how cool your character looks all the time is a little sad. That's not the point of the game and if it was then the game would be shallow and pointless.

Maybe wait and see how the game plays before going on the attack about how much you hate where the camera is positioned.

[TheOttomatic91]

The only one “bitch*ng” here is from you.

[Rachel_Alucard]

The whole sudden hate of first person games is bizzare to me. Deus ex, System shock, Prey, Fallout, and Bioshock are fine, but suddenly Cyberpunk gets skipped because of it. One of my dev friends even said they are only doing 1st person due to deadlines, budget, etc. The immersive line is a copout.

[Larrysweet]

Nonone wants fps trash period forget u cd project red and cyber punk it will suffer greatly for this stupid inclusison

[Sirk7x]

It's not like some of the greatest and most beloved games of all time chose to use a first person perspective or anything... Oh wait. If you consider games like Bioshock or Deus Ex trash, I'd say you have very poor taste in games.
Halo, Left 4 Dead, Portal, Doom, Wolfenstein, Half Life, System Shock, these games are first person and very important in gaming history. Goldeneye, Thief, Perfect Dark, Elder scrolls...
I was incredibly satisfied with how CDPR treated us with Witcher 3, and I'll be getting their next game on launch day.

[gamer9]

I want an FPS RPG from CD project red, so there's 1 person

[Lon3wolf]

I'm sure there is many thousands more, if this was a Witcher sequel and was an FPS only game I could understand the outcry, but a whole new IP?

[nibblo]

I'm glad it's first person, there has been imo an overkill of 3rd person games this gen and I've always thought FP as being far more immersive.

[Exvalos]

Going 1st person was a mistake period.

[Sirk7x]

Why?

[Perjoss]

its just content creators being dramatic, its not a big deal and its not a huge amount of people complaining about this. Obviously I dont have numbers but I keep my eyes open to stuff like this when I visit places where the most fans hang out. Deus Ex Human Revolution did first person RPG very well and so will Cyberpunk 2077.

I've also read and listened to impressions from lots of reporters who watched the 50 min demo and none of them saw this as an issue, and many of them said they could see why CDPR made this choice.

[Helios86]

Stop bitching about people bitching about the game being FP.

People have every right to voice their opinion.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

We know which crowd is crying about this. Hint they also whine about crossplay.

Being an FPS is a non issue

[leoms]

I'm gonna buy this game after yongyea confirmed this https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Nucler100]

F**k you

[FloydianAndroid]

I understand that some people wanted the game to be just like the Witcher 3 but in a cyberpunk world, but I have complete confidence in CD Projekt red to deliver a stellar game. I think gun play will be better in first person than in 3rd person anyway and I think people are forgetting that. I Don’t care for third person shooters personally.

[2ndhandcorn]

Customization enthusiests will not see their clothes in game oh the horror.

[AK91]

I don’t think there are that many people complaining to be honest, from what I’ve heard about E3 Cyberpunk has had largely positive reception.

[Lon3wolf]

Not just at E3 it's getting a mostly positive reception from lots of places/people , seems like some people want CDPR to only make 3rd person RPG games and nothing else.

[Realms]

Right because any kind of criticism is now met with why are you whining I personally don't care anymore my hype has died down for this game CD PR could have said earlier what kind of game they where making instead of being silent and letting people think the game was something it was not.

I'm sure plenty of people will be happy and the game will be fine but why is it that these kinds of articles completely dismiss someone's opinion just because they don't agree with the direction CD PR took with the game. Criticism is part of putting out any kind of art some fans are disappointed in the direction the game went and CD PR is responsible for not clearly stating the kind of game they where making.

[Lon3wolf]

"CD PR could have said earlier what kind of game they where making instead of being silent and letting people think the game was something it was not."
"CD PR is responsible for not clearly stating the kind of game they where making."

Sorry just because people assumed it would be a 3rd person game with no actual announcements how can CDPR be held accountable. We were told to wait for gameplay details etc. as they would be revealed in time, as they have.

[DrumBeat]

I encourage you guys watch (or just listen) to Angry Joe talk to the devs here. It's gotten me that much more hyped. https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[frostypants]

I agree with the headline, but there's literally nothing in the article that proves to me that the author actually saw the demo. I could have written that myself based on 2 minutes of reading prior evaluations. I'm calling BS.

[DedicatedDark]

Fck You! I will btch all I want!