Gran Turismo Sport hands-on: Content vs quality

An extensive hands-on with Gran Turismo Sport at Polyphony Digital’s Tokyo headquarters.

[SlappingOysters]

Project Cars 2 landing a month before GT is bad timing - I wonder if the series still has fans.

[freshslicepizza]

GT will sell welll based on its name.

[LexHazard79]

agree but also in gameplay and looks ..its no slouch in that department.

[Godmars290]

Right. Unlike Forza...

[whitesoxfalife76]

Godmars, why did you bring Forza into a topic that wasn't even about Forza in the article.

[fr0sty]

Same reason Slapping brought PC2 in? lol

GT is the most popular racing franchise on earth (77 million GT games sold to date), launching for the most popular console on earth (these aren't opinions, but facts based on sales). It will do just fine regardless of what PC2 does. Look at how well PC sold (2 million) against GT5 (12 million) or GT6 (5 million), and it was multiplatform!

[mandingo]

Then, they will see what a piece of crap it really is. 150 cars! What a joke. How did they only manage 150 cars when Forza has 700? Unexceptable.

[butchertroll]

Did you played beta, moldy? Driving physics are great.

Btw. did you know that also GT3 had a similar cars numbers lije GTS and also similar number of tracks. And guess what, GT3 sold the most. Game was great and it was first GT for PS2. Maybe similar will be with GTS.

[InTheLab]

@Mandingo
I'm sure you were outraged when Forza launched on the Xbox1 with similar car counts...

[freshslicepizza]

@butchertroll
"Did you played beta, moldy? Driving physics are great."

No but I hjave played every GT up until GT5. The physics have always been good.

"Btw. did you know that also GT3 had a similar cars numbers lije GTS and also similar number of tracks. And guess what, GT3 sold the most. Game was great and it was first GT for PS2. Maybe similar will be with GTS."

It also had a deep campaign made and could be played offline. How many circuits did it have because GT Sport will only have 27.

[Kleptic]

People can say w/e they want about the franchise. It definitely 'is' the most popular overall racing franchise in terms of sales, at least 'mostly-sim' wise. but to say we're in the middle of GT's glory days and keep a straight face...is off.

There is an issue with relevance when it comes to Gran Turismo, and everyone continues to ignore it. GT5 took too long and under delivered overall. There's no other way to put it. Since 2004, not one Gran Turismo game has made any from of lasting impact in the way the earlier titles did before. Saying that objectively; it's the last GT game i've purchased, owning everything before it, and there is a reason for that. PS1 and PS2 era? The franchise went unmatched. Forza's first outing on the original Xbox was surprisingly good, though...and then it was 2004...to 2010...with several Forza's in the middle for MS/Turn 10 to work out kinks (and PD only pushing GT: Prologue as some sort of 'hint' at what was coming...?) ...and all of a sudden Polyphony may have lost touch with their fanbase...And as a series fan from 1998...I promise, for me at least, they haven't yet got it back.

Either way, hope this one does well...but a ton of people sitting around like it's fall 2003 and pushing and shoving about how GT Sport is going to be a direct sequel to GT3 Aspec, and how this franchise can't be touched?...times have changed...significantly..

[Liqu1d]

@whitesoxfalife Funny how you said nothing when TeamLitt brought Forza up in one of the first comments on this article but you have a problem with Godmars doing it. Wouldn't have anything to do with TeamLitt being a fellow Xbox "fan" would it?

[LP-Eleven]

Bad for PC2. GT is a far, FAR bigger IP!

For those unaware of what this series sells, it's time to do some reseacrh:

http://www.polyphony.co.jp/...

The lowest selling mainline GT title, GT6, sold 5 million units as of Mar 31 (on the heels of the PS4's launch, so it made sense). That still puts it head-and-shoulders above the original Project CARS.

[Imalwaysright]

It will be the best selling exclusive of the year and one of the biggest games of the year.

[Death]

With 150 cars and 27 circuits it's pretty light on content for a console that has been on shelves for 4 years. Quality over quantity is only true if GT Sport has higher quality over competing racers. Surely it will sell better than Project Cars and Forza 7, but sales won't be based on content. GT always had a huge following and it will be interesting to see how Sport sells compared to previous outings.

[LP-Eleven]

@ Death: Totally irrelevant to my post.

[jerethdagryphon]

Gt5 sold more then the entire forza franchise

[Death]

@LP,

Which part of my comment is not relevant to yours? We are both discussing GT sales and what we expect to happen. GT6 is the last in the series to release and was also the lowest selling at 5 million. The series peaked at 15 million with GT3 and dropped to just under 12 million for GT4 and GT5. At 5 million GT6 sold extremely well, but is still a significant drop and shows a pretty strong decline in sales trends. I'm not sure what to expect out of GT Sport with 150 cars and 27 circuits when GT6 sold less than half of GT5 with over 1200 cars and 100 tracks. GT is a huge IP with with close to 65 million games sold, but sales have been declining and if the trend isn't broken with GT Sport, the game will be lucky to hit 2 million. I'm not sure if reducingcars and tracks and removing most of the single player game is the answer.

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

@Death

Gran Turismo has a following, mainly in Europe and Japan. It will sell 2 million within the first month easily. I guess you missed the positive information coming from people who have been participating in the beta? Of course you did.

[LP-Eleven]

@ Death: IGiveHugs said it best. Just stop.

[LP-Eleven]

@shbloom: No. There was only a "sharp decline" between GT5 and GT6, and it was due to the PS4's launch (as I noted).

[Death]

@LP,

With 80 million PS3's sold, you can't blame PS4's release a few weeks earlier for GT6's decline in sales. Sony could have moved the launch earlier if that was the case.

@Hugs,

Positive info is great, but that doesn't necessarily translate into increased sales. GT Sport might sell very well, but the trend has been decreasing and the fact the game is more like a Prologue in scale without traditional single player doesn't sound like a good plan.

[IRetrouk]

Death i didnt buy gt6 because i had already bought a ps4, so yeah the ps4 release deff had an effect, the game still sold close to 6 mill, which is better than any forza, project cars or ac has ever achieved, and all this talk about no single player content is silly, it hasnt been confirmed or denied in any way lol, also you honestly thing gt is only gonna sell 2 mill? Because of content you dont actually know is there or not?? But you forget everything the game is doing, exclusive concepts, real online cups and tournaments with real prizes and stuff being awarded on stage with real fia drivers, then you have the chance to earn a real life race licence, and thats not even going into the actual point of the game, to race cars, the physics and handling alone sets it apart from everything else out there, funny how single player is important now isnt it??

[Mulando]

Also don't forget, GT6 was a recylced GT5. This was the only way polyphony could launch the game so "fast" after GT5. The GT5 development cycle was just to much. I don't want to know how high the costs were.

[C-H-E-F]

PS4 is the reason why I didn't get GT6, my PS3 died and I didn't feel the need to buy another one to play GT6 so instead I picked up that need for speed rivals and have been itching for a GT game for 4 years now lOl.

[IRetrouk]

Exactly what happened to me chef, my ps3 laser went and i decided to get a ps4 instead, i regret not buying it as by all accounts it was a more polished gt5, but at the time the ps4 held more interest to me than just one game, tbh i thought they were gonna do a ps4 version like the last of us or gta 5, never happened though, so yeah gt sport...bring it lol

[Crazyglues]

As someone who has been in GT Sport Beta, I can not wait for that game, it's amazing, but Project Cars 2 was a game I was not planing on getting, but since I'm a super racing game fan, I bought that too especial since it offers a different type of game when compared to GT Sport....

For one, the campaign I kinda liked in PC1 is was a little fun, Love the fact that there is so much customization that you can go into the game and get the feel how you like it if you are so tech involved, or find a nice YouTube video of someone who has already done this.. Which is what I did and it made me love the game..

-But if your money strapped, nothing should be before GT Sport, it's the best ever... if the beta is anything to go off of, it's the best it's ever been for a GT game, graphics awesome, Feel Awesome, Does what all GT games do but at that next level you expect and want for the new game.. Loved it.

[yeahokwhatever]

Which series are you talking about? GT or PC? Because PC is going to get crushed.

[C-H-E-F]

Nope, I'm passing on PC2, because it doesn't do much for me in terms of PC1 to PC2, they did such a great job on PC1, I don't see PC2 as a day 1, however GT will be day one, first game I preordered since MW2.

[rainslacker]

I don't think it would really matter. GT has mainstream recognition and appeal, whereas PC is more geared towards the hardcore racing fan, with more limited visibility.

I doubt it'll help sales among the hardcore though.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Lmao!

[masterfox]

ignorance at its finest.

[OffRoadKing]

Don't worry it does.

[TheTony316]

Pcars isn't a threat to GT. GT is one of Sonys biggest franchises and sells extremely well in Europe and Japan.

[Team_Litt]

Wonder if it will get the Forza Motorsport 5 treatment for launching with less cars and tracks than the previous iteration.

[Doabarrelroll]

Wonder if you stop being a baby and ignore fanboys and just let PS gamers enjoy their game

[Doabarrelroll]

@texag
Wahhh I called people the I word someone crucify me. Most of my comments are at trolls not normal people.

Theres nothing wrong with calling an idiot and idiot and the people I was referring too were idiots.

Now move along damn xbox fanboy apologists.

[hamburgerhill]

"Wonder if you stop being a baby and ignore fanboys and just let PS gamers enjoy their game"

Says the fanboy....lmao....gtfo!

[Suave_Langosta]

This is N4G! The home of fanboy cesspools, where if you say one thing about your platform of choice you get chased with torches and pitchforks.

But come on dude, I play all platforms, and your comment is super chingey. PS has the most hateful trolling community on this site, most likely because there are more PS players, but whatever. Just don't call the teapot black when youre a kettle.

P.S. all platform fanboys on this site are annoying, I'm just saying don't act like PS isn't guilty.

[PFFT]

As should you ignorant Sony fanboys let Xbox gamers enjoy theirs.

[Rude-ro]

Do you mean the false advertisement of its looks or content?
I think more people were picking on forza 5 for the graphical differences from what was shown to be the product.

[Bruh]

Not really, plenty of people, including reviewers, shat on it because it lacked cars, lacked tracks and content in general. FM5's graphics were widely noted as a good leap from FM4, however it felt like a pro-logue to FM6 vs a full fledged game.

[Dragonscale]

@team, yeah you wish lol.

[andrewsquall]

Don't forget it would need to have only 11 tracks like the first Gran Turismo to hit that all time Forza 5 low................... that, like a Zelda game, still got 9/10s across the board regardless how awful, contentless and downgraded it was.

[Death]

Forza 5 shipped with 200 cars and 17 circuits and was a launch game in 2013. GT Sport is shipping with less cars, but more circuits at 150 and 27. I'm not sure that is the goal I would be shooting for in 2017.

[IRetrouk]

What does it matter to you, you aint gonna be playing it lol

[Mulando]

No, it won't. There are enough fanboys arround writing those articles. ;)
But I really don't get it why a racer must have that many cars. In the "good" old times you were happy if a racer had 30 cars. Nowadays it's just to much.

[CP_Company]

this is not real GT,this is just GT named game focus on online gaming.
fans waited almost all gen for proper GT game-GT 7 and got this gimmick.
ech,so we gonna wait til PS5 hits before we get proper GT game.
how some people says: they drop the ball...

[SlappingOysters]

There will never be a GT 7

[Dragonscale]

GT Sport has a full career mode as well as psvr compatibility. The beta was great fun, nothing gimmicky about it and you obviously didn't read the article. If you think this is the same as gt prologue think again.

[CP_Company]

no,it does not have proper career mode as titles before.this all game is about online gaming.
i could happy if this game had been like GTA 5,where you get single player as before and other part as online.but now? i like Sony a lot,but i am not blind fanboy,Forza 7 gonna crush this game because people still wants that kind of games,because there is a plenty GT Sports type of game in the market!

[andrewsquall]

I agree. This is more like GT7 Prologue than a GT game. The "single player campaign" is just a bunch of crappy "missions", no cups or race championships and stages to go through. AVOIDING this like the plague.

[mcstorm]

This game reminds me of GT on the psp. Was not the best at all. I lost my hype for gt last gen and don't feel it for this one to I also notice a few other people who are GT fans are more excited about project cars 2 than GT so sales will be an interesting one this time round for GT sport. Each to there own though some prefer get some prefer forza some prefer project cars and some prefer others. That said great time to be a racing fan and have plenty of choices.

[Godmars290]

No footage...which would look like any other footage from a racing game...?

Edit:
Oh wait, there is footage.

And it's just like every other racing game...

[sizeofyou]

Don't like racing games...then don't buy.
Millions will...

[ILostMyMind]

Every racing game is like any other racing game.

[Godmars290]

Death Race? Taxi? Demolition derby?

I can I at lest get a Spy Hunter?

[Killa78]

The beta was incredible, I do think the lack of content is an issue though.

Going to miss career mode :(

[Dragonscale]

I played the beta too and there is a career mode. It was greyed out in the beta so unavailable, but is in the full game. The beta is purely a server test.

[Killa78]

From what they've shown, the career mode is essentially the license mode where it teaches you how to race.

There's an arcade mode which will is for general racing but no 'cup mode'.

However saying that, there's an emphasis on earning credits so there might be daily challenges?

[Ju]

Maybe it'll help reading the article or watching the embedded video which explicitly goes through career mode...before spouting nonsense

[Donnie81]

I think gt sport will look and play great. A game doesn't need 1000 cars to be quality.

[Chris12]

But it does need a decent amount of circuits to stop it becoming stale quickly.

[yeahokwhatever]

I've spent more time racing on Seattle Circuit than I ever did with my copies of Forza. I like the prospect of having a ton of tracks, but I usually spend almost all of my time on a handful of them.

[Chris12]

Good for you, but not for the majority I suspect and a small number of circuits potentially makes any career mode tedious.

[butchertroll]

Quote :

But it does need a decent amount of circuits to stop it becoming stale quickly.

......

Do you know that GTS will have post launch support and new stages and cars will be added through time?

[andrewsquall]

I won't be touching this. There was always something fishy about the game when they were so silent about single player. This is more like GT7 Prologue than a GT game. The "single player campaign" is just a bunch of crappy "missions", no cups or race championships and stages to go through.

[MoonConquistador]

Do you really need to repeat yourself verbatim a couple of times in each thread?
I really wasn't that interested in whether you were buying it or not, yet you feel the need to tell everyone twice.

[yeahokwhatever]

he probably works on the Forza or Project Cars test team. lol

[Movefasta1993]

Andrew is a ps fan but even he can see through the bullshit

[XStation4pio_Pro]

Yeah I am looking forward to this one for sure. Gonna be a good year for sims in general. Pcars2 and f7 coming as well

[Nacho_Z]

You have to admire someone with that level of attention to detail. I hope there's as much effort put into things like career mode, sounds like maybe there isn't from some comments on here. I'd rather they started off with creating a full suite of game modes and then spent their time polishing the cars afterwards.

[corroios]

Lol, Project cars. Some still dont understand what is the impact of GT. If in the end of a gen with the PS4 coming out, the last one sold 6 millions and was low, what do some think will happend? GT is a brand with huge worldwide appeal. a bundle in Christmas will sold out without any fake shortages...

[edeprez]

PS4 was already out i think. I still bought GT6, but i would have been much happier if it had been on my shiny new ps4 as well.

[SkippyPaccino]

Hopefully Sony overhauls that studio... They keep giving them a long leashe and they abuse it... When Microsoft can pump out a racer every year like clockwork, there's no reason polyphonie digital can't pump one out every 3 years. I think they spend too much time joy riding cars, instead of making the game.

I don't want Sony to take away their freedom (since in some ways they earned it with their sales), I Just want them to deliver a proper product at release.

[showtimefolks]

Skippy

Don't want a new GT every year

Every 3 years is good

[SkippyPaccino]

That's what I said... 3 years, but we haven't gotten a proper GT in more than that... We both know there's way too much fooling around going on over there

[FITgamer]

When comes to sims racers or even just sim style sports games in general, more than 2 a gen is just a cash grab. There is only so much you can do those style of games to make them stand out from the previous title.

[yeahokwhatever]

Its the sole reason the GT series is better than the other games out there. There's a stupid amount of passion in a GT game. It's not just a franchise to them. I hope they don't change a thing.

[Team_Litt]

Better in terms of sales maybe. Quality wise, critics say otherwise.

[sizeofyou]

It's because they don't just write GT games. They work closely with car manufacturers as their day job on software...mist recently Nissan as far as I know...

[MrSec84]

Turn 10 have 50% more staff than Polyphony Digital, plus Turn 10 aren't making both Motorsport and Horizon, they're the only 1st party studio making a racer internally at Microsoft. If you add the team at Playground Games together with Turn 10, there are about 2 and a half times the staff working on GT.

With staff at both T10 and PG making assets that get used across both games.

Polyphony Digital also work with the FIA to set the standards of racing, quality is more paramount than anything for PD and Sony now. PD are like Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, Guerrilla Games etc, they add the best talent in their respective field of games development within the industry to make sure they're making the best games they can, but in the case of GT Sport PD are taking things beyond just making another racing game, it's now seen as a real competition feature.

[Master of Unlocking]

" The sheer speed at which the PlayStation 4 Pro delivers the content in Polyphony’s long-gestating, seventh entry in the series, is truly a wonder to behold. The quality on offer is breathtaking, and when it’s displayed at 4K and 60fps, it feels like you’re hanging on to the steering wheel for dear life."

Glad I got a Pro instead of the regular PS4...
...now to get my hands on a 4K TV, lol

"Even the audio (previously a weak point for the Gran Turismo series) is terrific in Gran Turismo Sport, further submerging you into the driver’s seat."

Dammit if true I think I'm gonna get that game sooner than I thought!

[tulholdren]

Another Day 1 Sony exclusive this and driveclub me and my friends are set.

[Father__Merrin]

GT is a fanboy reviewers dream come true. i predict they will say it feels stale, they will say nothing innovated etc etc its not like a fps with a different story its all about the driving which imo GT is best cant wait for it

[AmUnRa]

And they will saying the content is to low, not enough cars, not enough circuits bla bla bla.

But gamers who know GT and Polyphony, theyr will be plenty of free updates, like new cars and new circuits for al long time to come, i mean look at GT6, tons of free updates.

[NapalmSanctuary]

So when do you think they'll add a sp career mode?

[trainsgofast]

It's easy to say GT is the best but when your 1st party studio can't make a n4k/60 game that's bad.

[NapalmSanctuary]

It can't do n4k/60fps because of the level of graphics and detail. 4k isn't even necessary.

[trainsgofast]

Sony fans said that about Driveclub ps4 " it can't do 30FPS because of the level of graphics and detail." and how did that work out for that game?

N4k is 1800p Checkerboarding up to 4K and that sounds like your CPU can't feed your GPU and stay at 60fps.

[NapalmSanctuary]

"Sony fans said that about Driveclub ps4 " it can't do 30FPS because of the level of graphics and detail." and how did that work out for that game?"

You'd have to ask someone who plays Drive Club.

"N4k is 1800p Checkerboarding up to 4K and that sounds like your CPU can't feed your GPU and stay at 60fps."

Native 4k (the key word being native) means the source is 4k. No upscaling or checkerboarding required. All consoles are bottlenecked by their CPUs, its one of the more annoying weaknesses of the modern industry. Even the Xbox 1X only has 3 games (Smite, Paladins, and Forza 7) confirmed for n4k/60fps.

If you want to talk shit about GT Sport, may I suggest zeroing in on a real problem like its lack of offline sp career mode. If you're just dying to have a fanboy war, you're going to have to find an actual Sony fanboy to fight with.

[Master of Unlocking]

What are you talking about, GT Sport WILL run at 4K 60fps, the dude in the article says he played it that way.

[UltimateRacer]

The beta was a step in the right direction but there was still plenty left to improve but from what I've seen of the latest videos, it's majorly improved again especially the sounds, each car is distinct sounding, and it's got me excited for GTS, especially the physics, I noticed lift of oversteer at the Nurburgring and improved suspension movement, personally I like what I'm seeing with GTS and I can't wait for it.

[Sokol]

I have played every Gran Turismo game since the original Playstation.

Polyphony knows how to bring their games to life. I have no doubt GT Sport will be amazing in every detail at 1080p or 4K.

Meantime the only other racing game that I care about are Formula 1 series.

[Maddens Raiders]

The best.

[Armyntt]

Why do you people care so much how many a specific game sells? I dunno about you all but my enjoyment does not come from sales charts.

[jstark]

no point of this releasing since horizon 3 is out

[CernaML]

How much did Horizon 3 sell again?

[jstark]

how much did gt sport sell?

[CernaML]

Hey nativegoku. Im impressed. You managed to make yourself look like an enormous hypocrite within the same hour. lol
https://i.imgur.com/YXCE0eU...

[CernaML]

I wouldnt know considering the game isnt out yet.

That was a really bad comeback by the way. Good lord it was cringy.

[stonecold3]

got my ps4 vr and my pro and 4 k sony ultra hd tv ready for gt

[DafunkyRebel]

Am I the only one who has been feeling like most recent racers in this gen all lack the fun factor? I feel like these circuit racers like Project cars and GTsports all feel mundane and boring. At least Forza Horizon 3 was a bit of fun until it got boring too. Don't know why the old racers on PS2 era was so fun I miss those, feel like they actually had substance and style

[sampson3121]

"yawn, i thought you said you had Driveclub?"

joking, kinda.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[CernaML]

lol Love it. Xbox fanboys just want this game to fail so hard.

[ironmonkey]

Huge fan of gt series. Its just to popular around the world to not sell huge. More Content or not its the sim that sets it apart from the rest of the kiddy arcade racer games.

[CodeNameTBW2]

'the launch gate' Trailers came out today

[dmonee]

If it's awesome, we will purchase!