We've Given Ubisoft Too Many Chances

Agheil - "First off, I’m a fan of Ubisoft. It’s just recently, their games have not stood up to their initial reveals. Watch Dogs and The Division are two prime examples.

Watch the video below for the discussion. Enjoy."

[bananasrule]

You make a point

[Agheil]

Ubisoft needs to wake up with this nonsense

[Errorist76]

Luckily Watch Dogs 2 seems to be a much better game with little hype, so they seem to have learned their lessons!

[electricbanshi]

we get upset but we'll buy the games regardless hoping for the better....

[Agheil]

I hate to agree, but you're right

[electricbanshi]

Maybe this time it will be different

[Agheil]

maybe

[Kryptix]

I'm not really supposed to talk about Wildlands due to an NDA, but I'm not afraid talking about some of it in text form. Game screen was plastered with the account name I used all over it so I didn't take screenshots or record gameplay vids or risk the account I used, locking it from future alphas & betas.

I was in the pre-alpha for it that came out a few weeks ago so I won't talk about the performance, bugs, the technical side, but...overall for everything else, it's alright.

It's your typical Ubisoft formula game where yea, you have a LOT to do, but it's kind of like a checklist for collecting. You invade enemy bases around a large map (there's more world areas) for resources, weapons, weapon mods, medals, intel, skill points. The resources mentioned, they're used to upgrade your skills for a skill tree meant for you personally, with some of the skills meant to affect your squad. Skills include upgrades for your dispatchable flight drone, make it have better range, emp attacks, night vision, etc. or the ones for your character are like better weapon stability, reviving speed, more stamina for sprinting, etc. Plenty of skills with a level up system which I was happy about because I enjoy building my character the way I want to in conjunction with the way I play.

Regardless of a checklist form, the ability to do it your own way kills that monotony. You can attack a base any way you want; stealth, assault, ground vehicles, air vehicles, whatever. You'll even get the support of the rebels, with plenty of choices for that. Missions are not locked in any structure, forcing you to play it one way. If you want to snipe with suppressors, go ahead, if you want to smash the front gate open and let out the rebels from their cages to join the fight with you, going loud, you can.

If you played Future Soldier, the gameplay is nothing like it, it's closer to Splinter Cell: Blacklist mixed with The Division without the cover to cover mechanic & the way you take cover in this game, you lean against it. I liked the ability of taking your suppressor off or putting it back on with a simple button combination, including changing fire mode & changing how you zoom in with a scope.

Weapon customization is rich, that's a huge plus side, it will let you mod every piece of your weapon, even the trigger... You can turn a assault rifle into a long range marksman rifle if you want to and vice versa. With the weapons you can customize, you also get pre-made unique named weapons that you collect, non-customizable, but have their own appearance and uniqueness to it.

There's definitely more to the game, plenty of variety. I want to say, it's an alright game if you play it by yourself with the AI squad, but if you play it with a friend or 2 like I did, it's definitely really fun planning out attacks & executing them. Even the game includes a mark mechanic to sync up your shots with everyone else to cleanly clear out groups of enemies without alerting everyone else.

If you really enjoyed SOCOM during the PS2 days, this is the game for you. Combat and stealth was very reminiscent to that good old franchise, mostly SOCOM: Combined Assault with the vehicles and loadout customization.

I didn't get to play the whole game in pre-alpha stage so I won't comment on the story. What I played though, was pretty generic. All I'm gonna say, there's "boss battles" or a final target(s) in each sector of the map you have to fight, where you can get the unique named weapons, which they hold.

This is no traditional Ghost Recon game, but if you enjoyed SOCOM, this will be the closest to it.

[raWfodog]

Insanity = Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result each time :)

The last Ubisoft game I played was AC4: Black Flag and I actually enjoyed it. So I have hope that they can do it again for me.

[DanteVFenris666]

Yea black flag was great I'll probably reply it as there really is no pirate game that I've played that I've enjoyed more. The pirate theme has always been lacking in triple A

[Errorist76]

WD2 seems worth the play for sure!

[tehpees3]

Actually there is a backlash. Pre-orders for Ubisoft's games are lower then they were last time.

[alphafallen]

Lets hope wildlands is good

[Agheil]

All we can really do for now

[generic-user-name]

I honestly think that's something you should only get if you have a few buds you can play with, can't imagine it'll be much fun doing it solo or with randomers.

[firelens]

I have hope for watch dogs 2 lol

[Agheil]

I have a hope too hahah

[The7Reaper]

Im getting it regardless of review scores, hell I enjoyed the first Watch Dogs and no one can change my mind

[SolidDuck]

To play devils advocate. These are 2 examples of ubi not really knowing what they were doing when they first showed these games. Let me explain. Watch dogs was i believe the first current gen game ever shown. They didnt even have final specs. They obviously over did it when they first showed it. The division was ubi's first mmo type game. U dont get the same graphical fidelity in mmo's generally. I think they were out of there element. I dont believe they deserve a free pass. I also dont think it was some evil plan tho.

[Agheil]

It wasn't an evil plan haha. It's just a matter of games not living up consistently recently. I hope the wildlands turns out great. It just hasn't had as much exposure for a game coming out in March.

[Pandamobile]

Everything is a learning process.

[Ashlen]

Well I would agree with that except they didn't make the games look like the demo even on PC.

[Cy]

Siege is the only really good game they've put out since Far Cry 3, IMO. My least favorite AAA dev right now.

[uncharted56]

They are publishers not devs. So you are saying none of these games are good: AC:Black Flag, Unity, Syndicate, Far Cry:Blood Dragon, Far Cry 4, Far Cry:Primal, Rayman Legends, Trials game, South Park, Child of Light, Crew. And these are just some of the bigger released titles from them.

[Agheil]

Publishers control the developers. We're not saying they don't release good games, its just the confusion. Both watch dogs and the division have sold really well yet they don't hold up to what it promised. The video focus on the possibility of GR : WL having issues. The game has been as quiet as the division. We haven't seen much of yet its releasing in march. Hopefully the beta gives us a better look.

[firelens]

The Crew wasnt the best.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Agreed, somebody could personally not like the games that the publisher puts out , that's completely fine that's their opinion, but to say they're not good is as stupid and wild an exaggeration if I've ever heard one.

The records they've broken this generation says otherwise. The only game I own from them right now is Rainbow Six Siege as I bought it on sale for a pretty good deal but that doesn't mean I'm going to ignore that they released a crapload of decently rated games that sold huge Millions.

The Gaming Community like I've seen always like to melodramatically exaggerate every damn situation as if it's this life or death in the only games acceptable are these mysterious Citizen Kane like games that no one seems to mention lol

Apparently Only The Witcher and Grand Theft Auto V are the only acceptable titles to ever be released in history everything else is complete garbage and unacceptable lol

At some point I think the community simply needs to get a grip and stop overreacting over the dumbest things because some of these exaggerations literally ignore that Millions upon millions of gamers are enjoying in purchasing these games.

I love these Doom articles about Ubisoft yet these people are ignoring that Watch Dogs moved like 13 million units, it's one of the best selling new ips in history. They seem to also be forgetting that division broke records for them as well.

Though I didn't purchase much of their games I'm not just going to blatantly ignore their success.

[Agheil]

@_-EDMIX-_ I feel as though you haven't watched the video. The point is made clear that Ubisoft games sell well. The point was made that Watchdogs and the Division moved a lot of copies. The point is here is that they didn't live up to what was promised. No one said that Ubisoft is doomed. For someone who claims there over exaggerating, it seems you might have. The worry is with WildLands coming out in March, its been silent similar to the Division but what has been shown is great. Its the hope that, that game turns out well. Sales also come from a lot of marketing and hype not necessarily a great game.

[Rachel_Alucard]

Far cry 4/primal, Unity, trials evolution, and the crew were either mediocre or god awful. South park was developed by Obsidian and Ubisoft was only the publisher after THQ went down, in addition there was ton of content shown in trailers that never appears in the game, whether this was publisher or dev incompetence we will probably never know. Rayman Legends was not a bad game but it suffered publisher incompetence like when 2 weeks from release on Wii U they delay it 6 months so they could port it to 360/PS3. They are just another big publisher that does things the dirty way like they're taught in business school.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@Rach- "Far cry 4/primal, Unity, trials evolution, and the crew were either mediocre or god awful"

Ummmm sure. Call me when you start developing games.

Sounds like an extreme exaggeration.

[Kyoshi]

Has Ubisoft published or made a lot of disappointments? Yes, but at least most of their games are still GOOD. Activision, meanwhile, is busy publishing shit like Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5, the $50 Ghostbusters game, the shitty $50 TMNT game and slowly ruining the gaming industry entirely. People need to focus more on ACTIVISION.

[Agheil]

I agree, they do have things they need to work on too.

[cmac86]

Hate topics like this, the screen you post is as if your comparing in your video, then you go on to play a fps.

[Agheil]

That was an example image. Its the comparison that many people made for watch dogs. If you haven't seen that video, google it. That image was just used to make the topic clear in not getting what was promised. That is all. No need for negativity.

[cmac86]

Well I am sorry if i came off as negative but too many of these types of videos and headers direct people in the wrong direction. It seemed to me that with that example image it was a click bait article. Maybe you should word your topics better.

[Artemidorus]

Ubicon have declined year by year.

[firelens]

In what sense?

[Artemidorus]

Old games full of content cheap dlc now it's smaller more expensive and gets downgraded.

[_-EDMIX-_]

What chances? You technically give any game a chance that releases.

Also why hate on a publisher that is literally releasing some of the most new intellectual properties this generation?

I don't purchase much of their games but I least respect them for trying.

How many on here can even name a new intellectual property that is going to be releasing pretty soon by Electronic Arts , Activision or take two?

[Gitgud]

I do have to admit, we've given them a lot of chances. But, the games that they deliver are just sometimes so hype. Last Ubisoft game I bought was AC Syndicate, and I love that game so I'm all good with Ubi currently.

[susanto1228]

What's all this we've stuff I haven't supported them in a while after milking the assassins creed franchise and ruining it. Only bought assassins creed 1 rest of them were garbage.

[joethetimelord]

What do you mean "we"? I'd given up on Ubisoft a good while ago. Ubisoft Montpellier seems to be the only decent branch left thanks to Michel Ancel.

[Soc5]

I'm down with what he's saying but am I the only one kind of wishing he paired the audio with I don't know maybe I'm crazy but you know a Ubisoft game video.

[The7Reaper]

I liked Watch Dogs and have liked every Assassins Creed but never bought The Division but its $20 so I am later this week and I plan on getting Watch Dogs 2

[Ozmoses]

hahahah Ubisoft.. they've gotten me twice.. Watch Dogs and The Division...

played both for a few weeks and I got super bored.. also like a dumbass I was super super excited in the first week and bought the season pass for both.. never even checked the stuff out because I got rid of both games.. they got me real good. wasted money.. haha I'm definitely not going to make those type of mistakes ever again..

I haven't played any Assassin's Creed game.. or really have any desire to play them.

I like FarCry though.. Those are super fun!

[Ashlen]

Geez get over it.

Your talking about something that Ubisoft did years ago that they have stopped doing after the backlash. All their recent games have been shown in game on console. And all WD 2 footage that has been shown thus far has been in game footage from the PS4.

And this issue has a major double standard since Witcher 3 (and many other games) did this and W3 still won GOTY from both gamers and the press.

[_LarZen_]

I don't care what people say. I like Ubisoft and their games. And I've learned years ago to have in mind the likes of vertical slices and downgrades.

[MAULxx]

I'm giving them another chance ... Wildlands.

[Captain_Mushroom]

*sigh* another one speaking for me, because, SOMEHOW, they thought we share the same opinions

[chobit_A5HL3Y]

after the division beta, i'm pretty sure i'm done with them.

[Segata]

All I want from Ubisoft is another Child of Light.

[C-H-E-F]

They have to produce GREAT QUALITY products why? because they are on the verge of being bought out. So the only way to stop from being bought out is to create great products. If they continue shipping games that's been downscaled, lack of features and content then we won't buy them. The ball is in their court we don't have to say anything to them anymore because their situation puts them where we want them to be.