Here's Why Xbox One Is Outselling the PS4 Right Now

GameRevolution: "The Xbox One has built momentum quickly in a way that has defied all odds. Some are wondering how such a radical shift could happen so suddenly. Although the answer is simple, it includes multiple factors, each of which we'll discuss below."

[FITgamer]

The biggest reason, which they didn't mention, are the fire sales of the old model. There have been a few every month since July. I'm surprised retailers still have stock. Microsoft must have shipped an insane amount.

[Gaming_Cousin]

I always miss any kind of huge sales. It sucks because I feel that people get amazing deals and I get stuck paying full price for everything. I must be a stupid shopper. But then I guess I'm too f**king lazy to look for sales so then I deserve to pay full price

[Deadpooled]

If you're from the UK check out sites like HotUKDeals where dedicated consumers search and post deals on to the site especially gaming related deals. Other sites who post UK gaming deals like the IGN UK website usually go the lazy route and just copy deals straight from HotUKDeals.

Edit - forgot to mention, the users who post comments on deals there are mostly pro-Xbox and dislike anyone trying to big up PlayStation on anything other than a PlayStation gaming deal.

[Yui_Suzumiya]

Well no reason to beat yourself up over it so badly

[Cindy-rella]

Change the title to " why xbox one is outselling ps4 only in america " because xbox one has never ooutsold the ps4 worldwide. Facts. The title is a bit misleading and people should be informed about the truth.

The xbox one has outsold the ps4 only in america for three consecutive months in 2016 because of aggressive deals and bundles. Ive seen deals for xbox one with free games for as low as 220$ in america.

[saywat247]

"built momentum quickly" "defied all odds" "radical shift" and then another article recently mentioned something about a "collosal comeback". thats some very complex terminology and statements. look at how xbox sold the most for 2 months in the US ONLY and how it's being overhyped on crazy levels. this just makes me laugh but hey i mean u guys gotta appreciate any little win the xbox gets and blow it up like a balloon. like chill out guys. it's not that big of an accomplishment. chill.

[4Sh0w]

Phil is bringing back that "Core" Xbox that doesn't try to outdo or follow Sony, Nintendo. NO just doing what Xbox division needs to do to stand out, Core Games the base loves, new IP'S, BC, constant improvements/new features added to the box, PC-XBOX integration, focusing on their strengths like online/co-op gaming, hopefully new tech like HoloLens will prove to be useful and of course Scorpio excites us for the future= THIS is Xbox, the more Microsoft stays focused on their own strategy and fanbase the more folks they will attract and grow their brand. In short the more ways they can find to be less like the ps4 the better off the Xbox will be because if you want what ps does then you will buy a PS4Pro, if you want something different then that's the Xbox or perhaps Nintendo.

Microsoft are catering to their strengths= This is why X1 outsold ps4 in the US, but I imagine like all products sold there will be ups and downs where we'll see ps4 selling better again, regardless Microsoft just needs to remain focused on their identity.

[iTechHeads]

Xbox One has been $250 for a while now. They are still available from Gamestop. Go take a look.
http://www.gamestop.com/bro...

[morganfell]

@Mixedup,

I will bring up the fact it says "Right Now" Have a look at the Amazon Bestseller list. 6 consoles in the top 100, 5 are PS4s. As of this post its the top 5.

The fact is with PSVR just launching and PS4Pro next month, MS will not outsell the PS4 in NA again this year. That isn't fanboyism, it is a simple deduction based on the obvious facts.

[madpuppy]

I have discovered that when it comes to gaming, time is your best friend, patience and some vigilance will get you better deals than anything else in the long run.

[jebabcock]

yeah. its really more like, the ps4 has been marginally outselling X1 every month in north america and now the past 3 months the x1 is marginally outselling the ps4 in north america.

[XisThatKid]

There are also other factors like People holding out until the Pro and slim announcements then the release of said consoles. Then there's the wait for the release of the PSVR I personally know 4 people waited for PS4 purchase since June give or take a month. Either way it's a good perfect storm for X1 with new S a few games and Fire sales to get rid of old models and some people waiting out to buy their first or even second PS4s plus it's bound to happen l
that momentum for PS4 slowed at some point not saying the PS4 is stopping but it's at that point, almost 3 years of non stop win. It's been an even slate for the two of them this whole run so far and with them launching 7 days of each other and similar strategies It's really now starting to differ. With X1 making the first waves now let's see ps4s stage show with the launch of slim, VR and pro especially during holiday season

[Death]

"Fire sales" happened for both the PS4 and Xbox One. I think what is giving Microsoft an edge right now is they actually improved on their console and added features. Sony just made the PS4 cheap looking and didn't add the expected features. The PS4Pro is a move in the right direction and may change things when it releases, but it's appeal seems to be geared more towards existing customers. The other issue I think that may affect PS4 sales will be PSVR. PS4 owners that would be inclined to upgrade to the Pro might be forced to choose between PSVR or the Pro. That will slow console sales for those looking at upgrading. Ideally both Sony and Microsoft want to sell consoles to gamers that don't already have launch or "old" consoles.

[SniperControl]

"but it's appeal seems to be geared more towards existing customers"

Dont forget there are potentially over 40 million customers ready to buy the new PS4Pro, not saying all 40 mill will buy a Pro, but i'am willing to bet a fair amount will.

[Shineon]

Bulls eye

[kneon]

The biggest reason right now is that the PS4 Pro sales don't count until it ships. More buyers are choosing the PS4 Pro than either the PS4 slim or the XB1.

[SniperControl]

Nah, the biggest reason is the PS4Pro, hardly anyone is buying the slim or old PS4(apart from firesales) because the Pro is mere weeks away from launch, for a £100 more, you are getting a console 3 x the power of the regular PS4.

Dont get me wrong, the S offers a attractive set of features, but not to mention the Pro's imminent release in a few weeks stinks of fanboyisum from this site.

[PimpDaddy]

I'm buying a PS4 Pro. I don't own a PS4 yet. Can you explain how the PS4 Pro is 3 times as powerful as a PS4?

The GPU is 2.3 times as fast and upgraded architecture.
The CPU and RAM only had marginal speed increases with no change in components.

We can't even say the PS4 Pro is twice as powerful as the PS4 unless we're just discussing GPU.

Really wish you guys would keep it real...

[S2Killinit]

@pimpdaddy
The same way people say scorpio is 40% stronger. So I think its fair we judge both in the same manner no?

[PimpDaddy]

S2Killinit: I have no issue with that. Hold everyone accountable. I can't really comment on Scorpio because there is nothing official yet. I agree that the XBox fanboys shoukd chill too until specs are official and performance has been compared..

[S2Killinit]

The stupidity of the article is staggering. Are we really going to act like the PS4Pro has nothing to do with the larger half of PS4 sales going to the Pro? Really?

[Red_Renegade]

yeah, it's pretty bad.

[trooper_]

C'mon, you know how journalisn works these days. All talk and no common sense.

[UKmilitia]

been as low as £139 in uk with a game

[IamTylerDurden1]

It's not. PS4 outsold xb1 in WORLDWIDE sales in September. NPD is only North America.

[ILostMyMind]

They were all stranded in stock.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

You can get PS4 PHATs for $200 Plus games. Lets not pretend sales are only relegated to Xbox.

[CaptainObvious878]

Outselling the PS4? Oh? Did MS finally release their worldwide numbers after 2.5 years?

Fix the title.

Also, we don't know how much more the xbone outsold the PS4 IN THE US. Could only be a few thousand, even after the fire sales and Pro on the horizon.

It's amazing how the press goes into overdrive after just a few small victories in one region. Would they ever do that for Sony I wonder?

[iTechHeads]

The reason they still have stock is because Microsoft releases an insane amount of different bundles. They literally have like 3 different variations of a Gears 4 bundle right now and 3 different ones for Battlefield 1 as well.

[Bruh]

LOL nice try there, the PS4 Slim can't even outpace the Xbox One S. And those aren't really getting any more of a special deal vs the Slim. As both ship with free games and most retailers ship a free game or controller with both. Reality is the PS4 Slim is a mediocre machine thats actually crappier than its previous iteration. And it doesn't help its got a beefier brother coming soon too

[Amongunz]

I disagree... most people i know want the new model not the old. You're clearly just making excuses.. and ill get a bazillion dislikes because this site is clearly pro ps4

[QUIMICOMORTAL]

You and the article are forgetting that some (or many) potential ps4 buyers are waiting for the ps4 pro.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Slim models of a console are usually big with consumers. So much for that dead argument of "X1 won't sell because its games are on PC" but allot will hang on that sad, dead wrong and very desperate and reaching idea.

[Rimeskeem]

I know I sold mine because I had a PC.

[omegaheat]

Yeah buddy, you just keep telling that story, if it makes you feel better.

[Condemnedman]

still buying ms games tho lol

[REDDURT]

Dude it is the fire sales

[S2Killinit]

Dead argument? Its a pretty compelling argument I think. Why buy the console if you can game on the PC and get all the PC exclusives as well? Not to mention VR.

[S2Killinit]

@Blirds
PSNow doesnt release current exclusive lineup to the PC.

Yes until MS has a VR device, VR is a complete gimmick, we should all wait because VR is just not ready yet, its too soon, the technology just isnt there yet.

[iTechHeads]

Xbox games have always been on PC. I'm talking about the Call Of Duties and Battlefields.
Xbox exclusives aren't big or relevant enough to take away sales from the console. Halo isn't what it used to be, neither is Gears. So these games releasing on PC at this point are doing more good for Microsoft than harm.

So you're right, 1st party games being released on PC is irrelevant. Especially since they are limited to the crappy Windows Store and only digital purchases.

[gijsbrecht]

Outselling in the U.S. ( and perhaps the U.K. and Mexico). But in the rest of the world not so much.

[OB1Biker]

But,
'The Xbox One has built momentum quickly in a way that has defied all odd'
Im honestly wondering how that makes any sense.
'Some are wondering how such a radical shift could happen so suddenly.'
Like winning a few months never happened before?

[DragonPaw]

@the desperate banned guy

Scared of what? That whole comment is stupid, and it's not anyone's fault but yours that you are looking at vr anime game ads. There are a lot of awesome games coming out that I am looking forward to.

[jrshankill]

Salty

[SegaGamer]

The reason is simple. The Xbox Scorpio is still another year off and we have no idea what the price will be, buying an original Xbox One or an Xbox One Slim is still a good thing to invest in and that is exactly what people are doing. The PS4 Pro on the other hand is weeks away and we know the price of the thing. There really is no point bothering to buy a PS4 or PS4 slim right now unless you can get it very cheap, you may as well save up for a few more weeks and get a PS4 Pro

Once the PS4 Pro arrives i don't think the Xbox One will outsell the PS4 Pro anywhere again until Scorpio arrives.

[shiva1]

I hope Oct 26th will give us more info on Scorpio. If Phil is playing the game right, he should announce the price or tech behind scorpio on that day. Anyways looking forward for the event

[conanlifts]

Why would he announce full details a year in advance?

One thing that could work is releasing the console mid 2017. He said in his last statement things were moving along faster than they expected.

[Elda]

Temporarily.

[TheGamingArt]

clarification, Temporarily in the US only

[Elda]

Don't have to say it,folks should know what I'm talking about.

[TheGamingArt]

@elda, if they did ... then we wouldn't see articles like this and people giving Microsoft any kudos.

[conanlifts]

It's in 5+ countries, not just the US. Not that it really matters. The important thing is that both are selling well.

[Skankinruby]

It's not, not even close. These silly articles fishing for clicks are killing my interest in journalism.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

So why post

[JonnyBigBoss]

I sold my Xbox One after Microsoft started making its games on PC, too. Even then I gotta say I want an Xbox One S. What a beautiful console.

EDIT: I'm a PC gamer. I didn't sell my Xbox One to leave the eco system, for the record.

[shiva1]

If scorpio boots win 10 and steam is right there as an app?

[RabbitFly]

The chances of that are slim to none. It is just a fanboy pipedream my friend.

Microsoft and Valve are far from being friendly. Not to mention that Microsoft has been very open about their changing agenda. They want to make the xbox brand into a storefront. No matter how much they deny it, what that actually means is they want to take on steam. You know.... As competition.

[conanlifts]

Maybe a ltd steam app, rather than the full catalogue. I also think ms would have some say on sales and pricing. But this would be good.

[fanboysmackdown]

I think 4k bluray playback is a big deal because for even non gamers, the price of just a 4k player is the same or more and if you're getting a games machine too, it's a bonus, so MS has attracted non gamers as well. Backwards compat is also a deciding factor I believe. Gamers always think it's just about the games, that's what sells machines, but Joe Consumer thinks differently than we do, especially when it comes to say, buying a gift for the whole family. X1 has come a long way since the disastrous launch and although they'll never sell more than Sony this gen, they've made a nice comeback. Fanboys tend to forget how healthy competition is good for everyone.

[Skankinruby]

What's very interesting is last gen Microsoft and it's loyalists made a mockery of statements just like this. At least then there was a format war at stake, as well as the equivalent standalone player being 400 dollars more than the console. Now this gen Microsoft adopts those moves in an era where physical media is dying. Telltale example of too little too late.

[shiva1]

But then how would you share disc like yoshida did a short video on that? Physical media dies.... How would u share then... Those many fans applauding during e3 2013..... Where are they now? Dead i guess.

[conanlifts]

Everyone over looks this. Non gaming joe blogs walks into the shop and buys a 4k tv. He also wants a 4k player to watch a new uhd blu ray. He can choose a stand alone blu ray or xbox s. Most would plump for the xbox i would assume, even if they hate games. Parents in particular would.
Don't understand why people disagree with this concept, its potentially a big market.
It was the reason i bought a ps3 over a 360 last gen too.

[CrimsonPheonix]

Joe blog walks into the shop, buys a 4KTV and then goes home and streams Netflix is more accurate.

[conanlifts]

@crimson pheonix i live in a country that is only just rolling out the Internet capable of streaming 4k. It will be about 4-5 years before it's finished. I also live in in a country where the xbox is suddenly outselling the ps4 since the s was released.
There are also only 2 other 4k players on the market, both $200 more expensive than the xbox s. It might not make a difference to everyone, but it will make a difference.
@ kneon i have also seen ps4's being given away with sony tvs. Both have promotions.

[kneon]

There are also deals giving away a "free" xb1s with the purchase of a 4K TV.

[corroios]

launch of the PSVR and PRO. Nothing more.

[S2Killinit]

Its like they close their eyes and just make stuff up in their head without considering facts, because facts dont get clicks. Reality is just too boring for gaming journalists.

[thexmanone]

As long as you have $800 for the PSVR and Pro.Or a $1050 if you don`t have the move controller or camera. Then you need games so add that too. So if you have that kind of money you are good to go. I think most people will not have that kind of money, so sales will only increase for Xbox and continue to outsell the PS4 even when pro comes out..

[lastking95]

Stop making excuses and give yiur congrats. Pass 3 months its been 1 excuse after next.

@Red wtf were you? There was plenty of congrats.

[Red_Renegade]

where were your congrats to sony all the other times?

[Nibbs]

...I feel like I've seen this same article written about 10 times in the past month and a half.

No one gets bored of all this arm chair economics talk? Lol

[SpaceRanger]

There's no games for them to talk about now that their only two major exclusives of the year have launched. And as always, sales only matter when it benefits them.

It's the same thing year after year unfortunately.

[shiva1]

And one of sonys hyped exclusive gave refunds... Fix that first. Are there more incoming games like this?... Drive club had refunds... Hell yoshida wrote letter to all fans on DC. Whats next big exclusive coming up for sony?

[S2Killinit]

Yeah, just take a look at the front page at ANY given time, for xbox you will see 1-2 Spencer articles, and no game related news whatsoever.
Its like today "Spencer wants xbox backward compatibility with the first xbox" im like, who cares what he wants? Do it first and then talk to me.

Lipservice all day all night.

[chobit_A5HL3Y]

i honestly don't care who sells more at this point. it's been 3 years- just bring on the games.

[NextGenCeo]

Forza 3 ands Gears Of War 4 of course Xbox One S looks better and have UHD Bluray drive too. But this is not gone take too long. With next month probably PS4 will take lead`s again. Best Exculasive games on Playstation still not on Windows 10 or Xbox!

[EyeAmTJ]

PS4 best exclusive? Thats all opinion lol

[NextGenCeo]

All Universe know`s Playstation have best exculasive games on this planet earth :D If you still don`t know means you are from another universe :D
I`m just joking by the way don`t get wrong :D Of course my opinion it`s change for every person like colors :D

(ESL guy here sorry for English)

[YoshiMane]

Wait...People actually think Xbox One is outselling PS4 worldwide? Ummm..sigh...foolish foolish people...

[shiva1]

Source where sony is outselling xbox worldwide other than japan?

[YoshiMane]

UHHHHHHH VGCHARTS MAYBE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Who cares if it is or isn't?

[Red_Renegade]

people who write articles like this, and people who talk about it. like you.

[ocelot07]

In my opinion it's selling well due to being the cheapest UHD blu-ray player around. So not only our gamers buying it for movies and a slimmer XB1 as well as HDR support. None gamers will buy one (like my dad) simply for 4K blu-ray. But I also think one of the main reasons is a lot of people are holding off buying the slim PS4 due to the PS4 Pro coming out in 3 weeks time.

[Cohagen420]

320K VS 290K and not even gaining traction worldwide, another needless article.

[King_Lothric]

PS4 is still the best selling console in the US. Playstation has won like 24 months while the Xbox one just 3 or 4 months.

It is very funny to see those who said "sales doesn't matter" suddenly jumping to care about sales 😁.

In order for Xbox one to outsold PS4 on the US, they need at least to win the next 20 months consecutively because of the huge gap.

[OB1Biker]

Oh, its a radical shift? Like it never happened before?
Edit: Skimming through the piece I read 'The tables have turned' so I understand now.
;)

[Starman69]

I think Americans believe that America is the only country in the world 😂

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Doesnt it have most of the world's gaming population?

[Shakengandulf]

Wow... incredible.

[fhizikz]

Why bring in worldwide ? I'd rather have more ppl to play with in my region with good connection

[Rude-ro]

Because Microsoft spends millions of dollars with marketing and advertising partners and for some reason the npd likes to count their shipments.
This and the pro, of which will take over.

[DialgaMarine]

They're not outselling PS4 though. Are we seriously back to the 7th gen Xbot mentality of "Only teh USA countz!!!"?

[Shakengandulf]

Apparently i live in the u.s.. according to some of these ridiculous comments.

[fhizikz]

Those PS Vita numbers tho ........

[buttcheeks]

I can't wait for all the damage control when PS outsells Xbox for like eight months straight starting in November Then sales will no longer matter NPD will be a paid off untrustworthy site once more and and the Xbox sporpio will turn the tide

[lastking95]

Who tf is say sales matter? Giving a congrats? Lol this really eat you guys up inside xD

[buttcheeks]

Why congratulate if sales don't matter what exactly is the cause for celebration if not sales??

[cooksauce]

probably because everybody already owns a ps4

[DialgaMarine]

I'll never understand that mentality. PS4 has sold around 44 million. All PS home consoles have sold 85 - 157 million units. PS4 is just getting started on sales. The gen is far from over.

[RiPPn]

I imagine the PS4 Pro is having an impact.. people waiting for that machine and selling their old one etc.

[Tankbusta40]

To be honest, anyone who hasn't bought a Playstation is probably waiting for a PRO, I have been a Sony consumer since the mid 90s with the PS1 and I really believe Sony is making a terrible mistake splitting their user base between regular ps4, ps pro, psvr and all this stuff. Ps4 was rolling and Sony just had to continue to pump out decent games, worry about all this stuff in the ps5 era . To make a football analogy, its like Sony has been smashing the other team with an Alabama like tailback, only to come out in the second half and try to go 5 wide receiver sets with a freshman qb)

[Condemnedman]

Sony can outsell ms I don't care it makes microsoft a better bet for me .

[iTechHeads]

Because it's been cheaper these past 3 months. As low as $250 ($250 models still available via Gamestop)
PS4 has been $350 up until the launch of the "Slim".

It really is that simple.

[Bjorn-c-blocker]

The biggest reason is that sony has totally confused the non gaming consumer with weird policy. VR, pro, and slim making the non gamer totally confused about what they should buy and finding that the xbox one s has more features and is less confusing.

[MasterCornholio]

Well you need to buy a PS4 first to use VR. So consumers won't be confused about that.

As for buying a PS4 they have two models to choose from.

1. PS4
2. PS4 Pro

Consumers are already familiar with the Pro moniker thanks to the mobile industries use of Pro to define superior model of products. Consumers won't be confused at all because they will know the difference between the two models Want a basic gaming console well they know the PS4 will be the right choice. Want a more powerful system well the Pro is the one to get. Simple as that.

[Bjorn-c-blocker]

And when ps4 software sections are then divided into PSVR, PS pro and ps4 you think that wont annoy the basic consumer?

The sales speak for themselves. Sony has blown an open goal.

Also, sony backed the decreasing in popularity CoD franchise and is mainly releasing Japanese games in the next 3 months, which are Niche at best in the West.

[MasterCornholio]

"And when ps4 software sections are then divided into PSVR, PS pro and ps4 you think that wont annoy the basic consumer? "

Annoyed with having more options?

Actually no that won't happen. It's not like a consumer is going to walk into GameStop and start destroying the store just because he sees PSVR, PS4 Pro and PS4 Slim in the same section. Also the games will be playable on all three systems so there won't be any confusion.

For VR games we will have this label thst makes it pretty clear that you need a PS4 and PSVR to play them.

https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/up...

The rest of PS4 games will look like this.

http://cdn4.dualshockers.co...

With this sticker used to inform consumers the the game will be even better on the PS4 Pro.

http://cloud.attackofthefan...

"The sales speak for themselves. Sony has blown an open goal. "

Yeah over 43 million PS4s sold. Also the PS4 is still selling extremely well in the states.

"Also, sony backed the decreasing in popularity CoD franchise"

Which didn't stop the PS4 from selling more than the XB1 last holiday season. Heck over the course of the year they managed to beat Microsoft with sales in the US.

"mainly releasing Japanese games in the next 3 months"

And what's wrong with Japanese games? That will further help the system sell in the east and while niche like Bloodborne they can still make a decent amount of sales in the West.

In conclusion consumers will not burn down GameStops because they will not get annoyed with having more options. The PS4 will continue to sell extremely well. And COD will still be pretty popular and those Japanese games are great for the fans of them in the West.

I'm sorry but the PS4 isn't going away anytime soon .

[Bjorn-c-blocker]

People who want masses of options buy pcs. People who are not gamers dont want options they want one simple choice.

Dark souls inspired game is hardly The last Guardian and Final fantasy.

No one thinks the PS is going anywhere.. however refusing to accept that sony made an ass of the last 6 months is just blind fanboyism.

[MasterCornholio]

"People who are not gamers dont want options they want one simple choice. "

Ok so if PlayStation fans don't want The PS4 Slim and the PS4 Pro the same can be said about Xbox fans with the Xbox One S and Scorpio.

Your forgetting something and that is building a PC is extremely complicated compared to having the choose from two different models of consoles.

"refusing to accept that sony made an ass of the last 6 months is just blind fanboyism."

I never said they didn't make mistakes but most people will not care about them. I mean they made plenty of mistakes with the PS4 since launch yet the system still sold extremely well.

Mistakes such as

1. No BC since launch
2. No YouTube App at launch
3. No share play at launch.
4. Driveclub Screw Up
5. Shadowfall Resolution Gate
6. No external HDD support
7. No folders at launch.
8. Wobble gate with the original PS4.
9. No DLNA at launch
10. No stand by/ resume functionality at launch
11. When PSN went down during the holidays for a few days.
12. Rubbergate with the DS4
13. UC4 Delay
14. Driveclub Delay
15. Horizon Zero Dawn Delay

Even after all that the PS4 is still selling incredibly well.

[pumpactionpimp]

Why are there like 10 of these articles? Why is this news, and why do people care? It doesn't affect anything with which company sells more. Not unless you have stock in the company.

[clonerz]

hdr is available on all ps4 consoles unlike Xbox one it only available on s version somebody didn't do there homework

[thexmanone]

What HDR games are available for the PS4?

[MasterCornholio]

Well Sony said that when the Pro comes out they will patch many of their exclusives to support HDR. Exclusives such as Infamous Second Son Expansion, Deux Ex, Ratchett and Clank and Uncharted 4 will receive HDR patches. Not to mention multiplatform games such as The Witness, Outlast 2, NBA, Paragon and others will support HDR.

Can ads future titles like Horizon Zero Dawn as well.

Whether you like it or not current PS4s are already patched for HDR. Now all the games need is a patch to enable it.

P.S

Deux Ex supports HDR on the PS4. That alone proves that HDR is possible on the PS4.

For reading

http://www.polygon.com/plat...

http://gamingbolt.com/nba-2...

https://www.google.es/amp/s...

[Bjorn-c-blocker]

That is total BS. the standard pS4 does not have the hdmi out for hdr.. so no one in the industry understands how they can claim hdr when the ps4 cant even physically output at hdr.. do some homework.

[MasterCornholio]

They actually updated the HDMI chip to enable HDR10. It doesn't support Dolby's HDR format though.

http://arstechnica.com/gami...

"The PlayStation 4's HDMI controller is HDMI 2.0 compatible—meaning, it had been developed with higher bandwidth than the HDMI 1.4 spec required, and it just needed an official update via firmware to unlock and unleash that potential. Now, House has confirmed that it's coming, because anything rated for HDR specifications is technically also ready for 4K resolution."

[Profchaos]

Allot of people know the ps pro is right around the corner so why buy a PS4 at this point.

[optimus]

because maybe people don't want to spend the extra $100 on something that's just going to make their current games look prettier and not much else.

[ChickenOfTheCaveMan]

I think it's all about it being the cheapest 4K blu-ray player and the X1 slim being more than just a new model, it really adds features, slight added power and 4K. But if they're only getting 4K player only users, that wouldn't be a win because these guys don't buy games and that's where the money is. In the end, less than 50K more three months in a row in the US isn't a big win, they're still 20M behind..

[ChronoJoe]

If all of the reasons listed here are the reason, then why hasn't the XBOX ONE overtaken the PS4 in other regions too? The price drop, the HDR, the gradual introduction of features and the games have affected all regions, yet only in America has the ONE taken the top spot. Clearly there are other factors in play.

While these are of course factors I think it neglects a big part of the real reason, which is that the North American region already had a lot of people willing to adopt Microsofts product, but with these features, price drop, the lack of kinect, the slim has just served as the ideal entry point for those late adoptors.

Something to bear in mind is that the two systems weren't exactly far apart in the US to begin with. This isn't quite the miraculous turn around that it's being purported to be. In North America, PS4 and XBOX ONE sales have always been very closely aligned. That hasn't changed.

Here's a graph of growth up to 2015 for reference.

http://gearnuke.com/wp-cont...

America isn't a region Microsoft ever 'lost', in fact the ONE outperformed the PS4 during the holiday periods each year.

[SynestheticRoar]

Their fire selling the bum units.Nothing to brag about.

[TechnoGoat]

Oh god November is gonna be Hilarious.

[PeaSFor]

theres one reason, the ps4 pro isnt out yet and nobody would go with a slim when you can get a pro for 399,

[redaxis]

The biggest factor of slowed down ps4 sales is the ps4 pro itself. Really no point on buying the slim when the pro is just around the corner, plus no optical output, and that ugly hardware...

[n1kki6]

Its most likely because everyone has ps4s and mid cycle its no uncommon for peopke to buy the other console when sales hit.I cant beleive these journalists arent rich off stock forecasting, they know everything about markteing.

[sampson3121]

why would anyone buy a ps4 when the pro, which is 2x more powerful, is coming out soon.
main reason.

[Bjorn-c-blocker]

It is not 2x more powerful.
It has the same crappy cpu. it is just a terrible upgrade for idiots.

[sampson3121]

Eurogamer: The bottom line is this. While we can fully expect bundling deals and special offers to drive down prices on existing hardware, the retail pricing for PS4 Pro is undeniably compelling - $100/£100 more than the new CUH-2000 'Slim' PlayStation 4 model buys you 31 per cent of extra CPU power, 2.3x the GPU grunt, faster RAM and twice the storage space. As things stand, the base PS4 is suddenly looking very expensive for what it offers, relatively.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

you're the idiot

[conanlifts]

The gpu itself is 2x more powerful. But the console as a whole is not. Your eurogamer quote supports this where it points out the cpu only has a 31% increase. Interestingly the xbox cpu has always been clocked 10% faster than the ps4 and it made no difference.
Having said that the gpu is the most important component. The memory has also only had a small speed increase. So as a whole its not 2x more powerful, only the gpu is 2x more powerful.

I am looking forward to seeing if and how they enhance psvr games like driveclub for the pro.

[WMANUW]

wait ps4 pro bro. than you speak

[Bjorn-c-blocker]

I highly doubt the average joe gives two pennies about the pRo.. plus it is ugly and has no redeeming features. Games are still 30fps and the graphics will only be upgraded on Sony`s very infrequent first party games.

Sony fans are getting desperate for good news if they think people are waiting for the pro.

[lastking95]

Ikr first it was wait for the slim now its the pro. Just give credit when it's due or simply keep scrolling.

[MagicBeanz]

Cause people are dumb. You can play their games on your PC and you waste money on their irrelevant console, hey that's on you.

[lastking95]

Riiight cause everyone have pc.....that has w10......thats powerful enough.......and like pc gaming. (Need some smart beans not magic beans lol)

[cyber_daemonx]

Stupid article. They omitted the 2 real reasons, xbone fans double dipping and people waiting for the pro.

[JasonKCK]

Damage control at it's finest.

[Night99]

The Xbox One S is an amzing console with great games line up and it is a major improvement of the original Xbox One it looks awesome is small and it even has HDR support and a 4k blu ray player. On the other hand the PS4 slim is not really an improvement of the PS4, the PS4 was already small and the Ps4 slim not even supports HDR let alone 4k blu ray.

[Lulz_Boat]

the reason in PS4 PRO.

[Kokyu]

Cause people are waiting for Ps4P

[Egar]

Great games line up.

[Father__Merrin]

old model is £224 in the uk with kinect and 5 games....

[Tzuno]

Because it has games released right now.

[Trigem]

Shhh, let the Xbots rejoice...whilst they're still under Playstation's genjustsu.

[welly300]

Sony need to stop and take a look at what Microsoft are doing right. We need ea acces bkwds compatability or a cheaper playstation now. Not sure relasing to consoles and vr in such a short time frame will work. Hope I'm wrong....

[Drakul]

UHD player baby!!!!

[Garethvk]

It is outselling as they are combining Xbox One and One S sales as one unit and people have already purchased a PS4 or are waiting for the PS Pro.

[Blaze929]

All hype eventually dies down.

[DeeBeers]

Because its way better!

[optimus]

i would like to raise the question...what happens if the xbox outsells the ps4 pro? what excuses will you people come up with then?