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PlayStation 4 Pro Will Be the Last PS4 Edition for "Substantial Period of Time"

Andrew House sees this as the complete line-up of PS4s for the time being.

Maybay2803d ago

Makes sense. Even though the ps4/slim/pro will be able to play the same games, the last thing Sony needs to do is to pull a Sega and release consoles every 1-3 years. I remember people being upset about the Wii U lasting only 4 years, and how Nintendo were "burning their clientele."

starchild2803d ago

Yeah, too many people would be upset if they release another more powerful console too soon. If I buy the PS4 Pro I want to get a good couple years out of it before a more powerful PS4, or, even worse, a next generation PS5 comes out.

mikeslemonade2803d ago (Edited 2803d ago )

I don't have much issue if they do this every 2 years. Much better than having to play low settings at the 2nd half of every generation.

Remember Crysis 3 on PS3? It made a console irrelevant if it stuck to only one sku the whole time.

But people change phones every year and people change shoes every year right.. And with no problem.

nix2803d ago

That "period" is 2 years. Everyone knows that. Anyone that denies is trying to live under the rock.

darthv722803d ago (Edited 2802d ago )

"PS4Pro is the last PS4 for a substantial period of time".... so you're telling me there is a chance?

I kid, I kid. Anyone who has seen dumb and dumber will get the reference. Anyways, this seems obvious as the PS5 will be next. That whole "substantial period of time" tells me the PS5 prob wont be out for 5 years as anything shorter isnt really that substantial. Anything longer and they risk people jumping ship from the PS side to something else.

You get cabin fever if you are trapped on one platform for longer than need be.

edit: @starchild. So 2 years isnt long enough for return on investment but 3 years is?

"I already spent $400 on my PS4 and now I'm going to spend another $400 on the PS4 Pro"

That comes out to about 3 years give or take depending on when you bought it initially.

starchild2802d ago

@mikeslemonade

I wouldn't like that. If I buy a PS4 Pro and they release the PS5 in two years I'll feel ripped off. Two years isn't enough return on the investment. I already spent $400 on my PS4 and now I'm going to spend another $400 on the PS4 Pro, so there's no way I'm going to turn around and buy the PS5 in two years.

I don't even upgrade my PC that often. Hell, most of my PC (motherboard, i7 2600k, power supply, etc) hasn't been upgraded for 5 years. The only thing I've upgraded this gen is the graphics card. Once I buy my PS4 Pro I will have actually spent more on my console gaming this gen (on Playstation only) than on my PC.

I mean, seriously, is console gaming going to become significantly more expensive than PC gaming? I hope not. Upgrades every two years would be too frequent. There's almost no chance the console market would tolerate that. And Sony and Microsoft certainly won't be pushing things the very first time they are trying this upgraded console idea.

Mr Pumblechook2802d ago

I think it will be 3 years before we see the PS5 release in 2019. By then a revised PS4 Slim may be release.

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deathtok2803d ago

Agree. The next step should be PS5. Even if it's backward compatible it will draw a line as to what games cross over because of the performance difference.

starchild2802d ago

Well yeah, at some point they have to leave the standard PS4 behind and release a new generation of games that wouldn't be possible on the standard PS4.

When the PS5 launches it will have its own games and will also be backwards compatible with the PS4, but I don't think the standard PS4 will be able to play PS5 games. The PS4 Pro however may be able to play scaled down versions of PS5 games. That's how I envision it at least.

nRicosS2802d ago

Agree. Next step must be ps5
Please dont be ps4 pro slim

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory2802d ago

people being upset about Nintendo having the Wii U last almost 5 years is strange to me.
Nintendo system all have 5-6 years before the next. That just how it is.

Relientk772803d ago

I'm hoping it's just the last until PS5

Alexander1Nevermind2803d ago

The demand for consoles is still extremely high so yes I'm sure there will be a PS5.

iTechHeads2803d ago

Obviously. There won't be a PS4 Pro 2 next year or anything.
PS4 Pro is a half-step for when the PS5 arrives in a about 4 years.

ocelot072803d ago

I seriously can't see this gen lasting 7 years. I still think PS5 as early as late 2018. Pro would of been on the market for 2 years and the original PS4 for 5.

Mystogan2803d ago

He said a Substantial period of time. AKA you're not gonna see a new PlayStation for at least another 3 years.

LordMaim2803d ago

@Mystogan: He also said last PS4 edition for a substantial period of time. That specifically doesn't rule out a new generation console.

mkis0072803d ago (Edited 2803d ago )

Mystogan

He never said new playstation, he said new playstation 4. im guessing release by 2020 anyway.

spoilerjerk2802d ago (Edited 2802d ago )

I have absolutely no doubt that 6 months after Scorpio hits shelves that Sony will be showing PS5 at E3 2018 (for a 2019 release) and that PS4 Pro/ Xbox Scorpio will have been failed experiments.

game4funz2802d ago

Not buying a console then for quite a while. If i were to buy these new iterations for sony and ms I will have spent over 1600 on consoles alone. for what people call the same generation. in the span of 3-5 years...ridiculous.

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arkard2803d ago

I see a 2019 release myself, but no way is this gen lasting 7 years

starchild2802d ago

I think the whole idea of these upgraded consoles is to give the generation more life and longevity. So, if anything, they will lengthen the generation relative to what it would have been had the upgraded consoles not come along.

I think this gen would have easily lasted 5 or 6 years with just the regular PS4 and XB1, but now that we are getting significantly more powerful versions of those consoles I think the generation could easily last 7 years or more. 6 years will be an absolute minimum, mark my words.

arkard2802d ago

I see it as ps5 coming out but having mandate with being backward compatible with ps pro, giving each console about 6 or 7years

DragonDDark2803d ago (Edited 2803d ago )

Good. I don't want a 3rd(edit: 4th) one.

OC_MurphysLaw2803d ago (Edited 2803d ago )

It will be 2-3ys... the cycle has begun, mark my words. Edit: and this will hold true for MS too... the next console will basically be another bump to the current console just moving the performance needle just enough to get current console owners to consider. I know many call it the Apple model but in many ways...this is the PC model just without upgrading individual components.

Mystogan2803d ago

The Cycle will be 3 years. 2 years is a really short time.

OC_MurphysLaw2803d ago

Yeah, you are probably correct... although I could see a 2yr slim like refresh then 3rd yr console spec bump.

jb2272802d ago

I'd personally prefer upgrading individual components. The only reason that seems to ever cause any issues in regards to PC is that there are a variety of vendors creating these components. If Sony & MS made some kind of hot swap type port for their next systems that only accepted Sony or MS components, I don't see why upgrading would be an issue. Even if it necessitates consoles becoming a bit more bulky I'd be fine w/ that. It just feels wasteful to me to buy an entirely new system every few years instead of just releasing cheaper upgrades to a base model. There was talk about phones going modular like this in the future & I'd personally prefer that. Let people decide how they want to upgrade as opposed to having wholesale new solutions.

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Square Is Shifting Strategy To Aggressively Pursue Multiplat Releases,Focus On Quality Over Quantity

Square Enix is shifting its strategy to aggressively pursue multiplatform releases and focus on quality over quantity.

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CantThinkOfAUsername12h ago

Yup, it's official. FFXVI and FFVII Rebirth didn't sell as much as they expected.

gold_drake10h ago

read the report, where exactly does it say what u just said ? lol

Barlos9h ago

It's your interpretation. That doesn't make it 'official'.

CantThinkOfAUsername1h ago

- 1% increase in net sales compared to a year with Forspoken and Octopath Traveller II, which didn't sell more than 3 millions combined (and I'm being generous).

- A 38.3% decrease in operating income despite the release of 'High-Definition' titles namely FFXVI, FF Pixels Remaster, Dragon Quest Monsters, and FFVII Rebirth.

- Aggressive multiplatform strategy one year after saying that exclusivity with PlayStation was mutually desired.

Sure, it's all in my head.

Sonic18815h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Probably for PC and the upcoming Nintendo Switch 2. Square Enix games doesn't sell to well on Xbox

Extermin8or3_5h ago

Nothing sells well on Xbox that's precisely Microsoft's problem

The3faces4h ago

Apparently they don't sell well on PlayStation either.

Lightning773h ago

Square named Drops Xbox as part of their multiplatform approach in their quarterly reports.

Like it matters MS will probably find away to close them down to.

DarXyde5h ago

I mean, maybe? They'll want as much as possible and I figure they could have been hoping for greater impact on PlayStation, but that's good reason to reflect and realize the resources and development cycle of these games aren't very sustainable. The solution is to make more affordable games with shorter dev cycles, then once in a while bring out the big guns.

I think Final Fantasy VII Re make and Rebirth would do really well if it was multiplatform. Specifically, if Nintendo gets their hardware up to snuff, and the rumors are promising. I don't really have much faith in its performance on Xbox, but Nintendo gamers really commit to buying their games. At one point, Breath of the Wild for Switch outsold the Switch itself.

Granted, Zelda always solos everything except GTA, but Nintendo folk are avid Final Fantasy fans. I think it would do exceptionally. Nintendo just needs to make porting easy and inexpensive and they'll get more games.

Christopher3h ago

The two most profitable games for them didn't sell as much as expected. Yes. Make it make sense.

MrCrimson1h ago

I interpret it as - they want to be multiplatform, as they will sell more copies.

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CrashMania11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Hopefully the next Nintendo system isn't a potato and it can contribute to FF sales in future as well, in addition to PC releases. If this ensures the long term health for SE and franchises than like FF and KH then I'm all for it.

NotoriousWhiz10h ago

Adding Nintendo and PC customers is the best way to increase sales and long term success. Not going to get that from Xbox.

shinoff21836h ago

Hopefully square brings all the lose switch exclusives over to.

Hofstaderman10h ago

Will there be a XBOX for Square to release games on? Or a MS Games service?

thesoftware7308h ago

Hof,

You must not have heard they are launching new hardware and have already committed to a Next-Gen Xbox.

But, for some reason, I think you already knew that and wanted to spin a silly narrative; besides, why wouldn't they release games on the SX/SS? You do know these consoles will still be here, right?

Hofstaderman7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Optics. They have a STATED plan to do so. Thats not commitment. The shareholders and board are calling the shots now. Lets see if they have the appetite for hardware because they are owed 80 Billion Dollars already. Investment in hardware, R and D and marketing is how much again? That cost with the history of their hardware performance....at most maybe a handheld. What I am certain of XBOX is finished, the writing has been on the wall before the studio closures. Its MS Games and they are not hardware. They are software because MS is a software company. Expect them to be folded in the Surface team.

DarXyde5h ago

*hardware

I believe they committed to hardware.

I hate to nitpick, but that's kind of the company they are. You have to.

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Aloymetal6h ago

No to both, not worth the effort, money and time on an already dying brand.

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thesoftware7306h ago

"They have a STATED plan to do so. That's not commitment."

Huh? What are you talking about? They announced they would be unveiling new Hardware this holiday season; how else are they supposed to commit to it?

" Lets see if they have the appetite for hardware because they are owed 80 Billion Dollars already"

What a silly statement, you think this deal was approved so they could make 80 billion in less than a year? This is a long-term commitment, a future-proofing of profit.

"What I am certain of XBOX is finished,"

No, you are not certain of this lol; as you stated, if they make even a Handheld in the form of a Steam-Deck that can dock to a TV/monitor, wouldn't that be just changing the form factor but still XBOX?

Closing these studios has really got you guys delusional; that is what happens in companies, in a changing market: you acquire, and you trim; like it or not, that is the way things are done. Lets look.

Where is the new Psygnosis with a new wipeout?
What happened to Japan Studio? Pixl Opus? London Studio?
Where is Zipper Interactive?

I can list more, but you see, closing devs doesn't mean your company is finished, especially when you have like 30+ dev teams.

Extermin8or3_5h ago

They won't be unveiling the hardware this holiday season it will be like the series x and s they got a tease at the game awards 2018. But no details until year of their release in 2020 lol

Relientk7710h ago

Please tell me the Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake is still coming. I feel like I've been waiting forever for that game.

gold_drake5h ago

i think the juggernauts kingdom hearts (disney provides the money for that one) final fantasy and dragon quest are fine, the rest not as much

Charal10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Another sign that dedicated consoles market is in trouble, while PC seems more and more attractive to big publishers.

Having a good gaming PC and a PS5 myself, given current trend form both Sony and MS I am less and less playing on PS5, waiting for exclusives to release on PC, so I understand the logic behind the new strategy.

anast9h ago

Post those numbers. Then your comment might make sense.

thesoftware7308h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Ants,

I get that we don't know exactly without numbers, but come on, man, we can clearly see what's happening.

The console market has not grown much, the highest-selling console in history is still the PS2. You can play the " prove it" game all you want, but Sony's more aggressive PC push, SE completely rebooting their company/business, after being mainly exclusive to one console and showing a sizeable profit loss is telling.

PC is a high seller, and your doubtful PS5 dominant stance does not change the clear writing on the wall, straight from Sony's mouth, that they need to be, and will be more aggressive in the very lucrative PC market.

So, in other words, PC market is indeed looking more and more attractive to Pubs.

anast7h ago

@730

Numbers?

I'm willing to bet the farm that ¨PC gamers are not the dominate number compared to console, but I don't know because I don't have numbers. However, the price point of entry can allow us to infer what I had just stated.

anast3h ago

I don't click on links on forums. Tell me why that .com source is legit.

Tacoboto58m ago

What an ironic thing to say on a link-agreggate site like N4G. Explains your comment history perfectly.

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How And Why Online Multiplayer Is Still A Thing For Dreamcast

A trailblazer for online gaming, some players are still holding a candle for Dreamcast.

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purple1011d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

such a shame, its my fav console by far. it was way better than ps1, problem was ps2 was due to come out, a year or so later, and many just waited for that, especially after the flop that was the Saturn,. (even though it way okay, it didn't sell well,).

ps1 did sell well, a lot of those fans waited for ps2. thus, the downfall of Dreamcast,,

Jingsing9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Every console is responsible for its own destiny, You don't go around pointing fingers at him or her or anybody, cowards do that and that ain't you! you're better than that!

lodossrage8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Not true,

The Dreamcast falling apart was because Sega couldn't make up the pay for the increasing debt from the Sega Master System, Game Gear, 32x, Sega CD, and Sega Saturn. The Dreamcast and Genesis were profitable. But the profits weren't outpacing the debt plus interest.

It had nothing to do with anyone waiting for the PS2

MetroidFREAK218h ago

You're forgetting the most important part of the story. Sega was losing so much money so fast due to their past failures, they couldn't sustain the business. Even if the PS2 did help the demise of the system, the true blame is Sega themselves

lodossrage5h ago

Exactly

Even Bernie Stolar R.I.P (former Sega exect) admitted in an interview past debt was what hurt the Dreamcast.

Everyone says "Sony killed Sega" when that's not even remotely true. Not just that, but most of their debt came from fighting Nintendo, not Sony

ZeekQuattro3h ago

This. The only truly successful home platform Sega made was the Genesis. Every thing else flopped to varying degrees. The real culprits were Sega of Japan and Sega of America which went to war against each other for some odd reason.

Chocoburger13h ago

I bought a DreamPi to play both Dreamcast and Saturn online! So far I'm only played with two people online with Saturn, and I need to spend more time with the Dreamcast community in order to play with them. I miss ChuChu Rocket online, good times!

Profchaos12h ago

P2P there's even Sega genisis games that still connect online based on this.

Hosted servers wasn't really something I saw regularly on non oc platforms until the 360 era.

Ravenkiss8h ago

The Dreamcast was easily my favorite console of all time, home of many good fighting games

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Report: Sexual Misconduct Investigation Conducted at EA, Suspects Named and What They Did Revealed

EA senior staff has been investigated for sexual misconduct involving female coworkers, and these said people have been named publicly.

isarai1d 15h ago

Aye just call Phil, i mean he somehow made Bobby Kotick's scandal disappear and gave him a few million dollar high five on the way out.

Cacabunga1d 6h ago

I wonder if it will be censored with some in game ads.

XiNatsuDragnel1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

EA about to go down like Activision and then Phil saves the day saying.this is good for the industry and consolidation will help create competition. /s.

ravens521d 10h ago

What's up with all these horny creeps. You gon be horny, fine. Just not at work take care of that shit before you go in. Rub one out if you have to. Don't be a creep at all. ESPECIALLY at work. But don't be one AT ALL.

Extermin8or3_1d 5h ago

I mean part of the issue is that things transpired outside of work....

KwietStorm_BLM1d 5h ago

You think deviants care where they are? Work sometimes makes it an even better situation for them because they can abuse their power.

mudakoshaka13h ago

Nerds think they are Gods when they are making video games.

NotoriousWhiz1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

"it seems that according to EA, given the events transpired outside of work between two adults, and the fact that once investigation has started that the alleged perpetrators didn’t do it again, the investigation is considered closed. [...] The victim still has to work with the people that harassed her."

Yep, EA is disgusting.

Extermin8or3_1d 5h ago

I mean the fact stuff happened outside of work puts EA in quite a difficult position legally. These women don't seem to have reported the matter to the police which kinda ties EA's hands on what they can do. If they don't file reports of the crimes then yeah from EA's perspective it is stuff that happened outside of work. The only exception is the guy that apparently referenced things in the slack channel for work, spending on what he said proving it may be very hard and he may well be able to get away with plausible deniability. I don't like EA and I think these people need to be dismissed but without any legal action being taken, EA can't really do much without risk of being sued themselves for unfair dismissal etc.

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