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Throwdown Ep. 59 – Xbox One or PlayStation 4: Which is Actually “For the Players”?

Tony Polanco from The Koalition writes:

"Earlier this week, Microsoft’s Aaron Greenberg claimed that if people want a system to play games on then the only choice is the Xbox One. Also this week, our good friend Torrence Davis put up a Twitter poll asking his followers which system offered the most value between the Xbox One and PlayStation 4. Both of these events inspired the main topic of this week. Which box is the best box? We break down each systems pros and cons and determine which one is in fact 'for the gamers.'

Other topics we discuss this week:
*Halo 5 releases a ton of stats… except sales numbers.
*Konami says next Metal Gear Solid game will require a “large-scale investment.”
*SNK is done with Pachinko machines and is re-focusing on Video Games
*Activision buys Candy Crush developer, King."

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sammarshall1023139d ago

I'd say based on updates/features like a new UI, backwards compatibility, etc that Microsoft is showing they're for the players right now

Profexxion3139d ago

Whatever the individual player desires more, seek it out. Or get all the consoles.

Majin-vegeta3139d ago

*Snk done with Pachi machines.

Yes than god.Hopefully we can now get a proper Fatal Fury game...and not this crap

https://youtu.be/aBj6k8wX6u...

Kyosuke_Sanada3138d ago

I agree. SNK has tons of heavy hitters in their arsenal that given proper care, they can yield awesome results. One need to look no further than King Of Fighters XIII.

carlosstyles3139d ago

Obviously Microsoft, i sold my ps4 after the last E3.

WeAreLegion3139d ago

The E3 where they showed The Last Guardian again, announced a full Final Fantasy VII remake, and gave us a live demo of Horizon: Zero Dawn, possibly the coolest new IP of the generation?

Are you absolutely sure you had a PS4?

muzikjunkie803139d ago

WeAreLegion

people like you need to realize not everyone is into final fantasy and other rpgs i for one passed up on bloodborne, good looking game but just not my type of game.

horizon looked pretty good but to say its the coolest ip of the generation is pretty far fetched as this generation is only 2 years old and there are lots of games to be announced in the next few years to come, the xbox one has some pretty cool looking games coming in 2016 also but i suppose to ps4 only owners they donr like admitting a rival console can also have cool new ips nothing new on n4g i suppose.

and what do you care if he had a ps4? if he sold it then thats his choice, who are you to question his decision?

as to the headline one simple answer if it plays games regardless of what name is in the box all cosoles are for the players. i own both ps4 and xbox one and both are fantastic machines in their respect. lets put this shite to bed and game on folks

WeAreLegion3138d ago

You think I only own a PS4? I have every system out there and build PC's. I just don't believe this guy.

I think every gamer should have a PS4, XBO, Wii U, and PC right now. There are too many great games on each not to.

What people like you need to understand is we can defend systems without hating other systems. I love this entire industry.

Insomnia_843139d ago

It's a shame we share the same name.

Trekster_Gamer3139d ago

XB1 has much more games, but if you want to see a few extra blades of grass and do not seek the better variety, and larger selection of AAA games then PS4 is for you.

WeAreLegion3139d ago (Edited 3139d ago )

Actually, the PS4 has at least 80 more games than the XBO.

As far as announced games go, it's not even close. We're talking HUNDREDS more.

PS4:
Exclusive = 90
Sony exclusive = 97
Console exclusive = 167
Multiplatform = 438
Total = 812

XBO:
Exclusive = 40
Microsoft exclusive = 9
Console exclusive or timed = 76/27
Multiplatform/TBA = 342/2
Total = 495

This is data off Wikipedia, by the way. If you have a better source, feel free to use it.

NewAgeisHere3139d ago

Don't bother explaining it to him, he's obvioulsy the type that won't let facts get in the way of his delusion. XB1 has more games?April 1st was couple months back:)

PreAtaric3139d ago (Edited 3139d ago )

That has to be a joke...

TripleCs3139d ago (Edited 3139d ago )

Idk why you're lying about the Xbox One having a larger catalog of games than the PS4 but if you really thought the Xbox One is as great as you claim it is then you wouldn't lie about it.

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Sony Wishes Its State Of Play Was As Impressive As The Xbox Showcase

While the Sony State of Play had a critical lack of first-party titles and new stuff, Xbox came in hard and delivered one hell of an event.

Goodguy0115h ago

SoPs usually are quite underwhelming. Xbox did a great job and hope Sony learns

Cacabunga4h ago

It was a great show, but still a multiplateform show. xbox needed to give a sign of life, and they did. Sony on the other hand showed some console exclusives..
State of play was light yes that’s clear, but Sony is still planning to deliver console exclusives.

romulus234h ago(Edited 4h ago)

The following games from the showcase are multi-plat and also coming to PlayStation and there may be more so perhaps what Sony learned was to let MS spend the money on advertising games for them.

Assassin’s Creed Shadows
Atomfall
Call of Duty: Black Ops 6
Clair Obscur: Expeditions 33
DOOM: The Dark Ages
Dragon Age: The Veilguard
Fallout 76: Skyline Valley
Flintlock: The Siege of Dawn
Life Is Strange: Double Exposure
MechaBreak
Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater
Mixtape
Sea of Thieves: Season 13
WUCHANG: Fallen Feathers

Kayser812h ago

romulus23:
they are advertising GamePass which the none subscribers have to pay 70$ for it.

Hello_World2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Buyers on PS help make Gamepass games even more profit by paying retail price, while Xbox gamers get all on day one using subscription. Huge difference.

blackblades2h ago

Sony been doing it before MS has for years, so they dont need to learn. If the time isnt right then the time isnt right.

-Foxtrot1h ago

I hope they learn aswell BUT looking at both sides at least Sony isn’t announcing games to show off again, and again, and again over a couple of years

While a good show there was a lot at Microsoft’s conference that were announced and shown off years ago. If Sony sticks to only showing off games when they are going to be released the same year then I kind of understand it but if they don’t then I’d be flabbergasted by it

1Victor43m ago

Let Sony do its thing when they drop the ball for gen and a half of duds shows then they’ll be even with Xbox and we should worry till then they earn it.
All that been said congratulations to Microsoft for finally doing the minimum of having good looking games coming soon took 100 billion to do it but hey gotta spend money to make money or so someone broke once said.

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italiangamer15h ago

It's embarrassing how "professional videogaming journalism" has fallen off.
Article written by a 13 years old full of acne.

Rebel_Scum2h ago

Gotta start somewhere. Especially with computers and AI taking jobs from fast food joints and supermarkets which traditionally hire teens.

isarai12h ago

I think people need to be aware that purpose of State of Play is updates on small scale and 3rd party games, their big scale showings are PlayStation Showcase.

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Terry_B5h ago

Approved this silly submission of an "opinion article" with the last 2 votes it needed to have a laugh at the upcoming comments.

Seriously, console war shit like this one should be banned from n4g.

Profchaos3h ago

I've noticed that console wait flame bait is the only thing getting approved lately with other articles taking a few days to show up after not getting approved

Terry_B3h ago

Aye. Usually I just use the "how submissions with most approvals" choice ..look what they are and approve. Wish we would have way more reviews here instead of opinion articles. So many of them are just bait.

peppeaccardo4h ago

One one side a company that has brought real innovation in videos games with the first truly 3d graphics for mass entertainment, handheld devices, VR, great francises ... on the other side the Netflix of video games, and so .... who wants to be who? Let's stay focus and play some games kids.

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Is Xbox Going Multi-Platform The Right Decision For The Console Market?

Shahmeer from eXputer: "The new Xbox strategy to go multi-platform could eventually change console gaming as we know it, and I am concerned."

Bathyj1d ago

Can we stop pretending that Xbox has any great influence over the console market?

All they can do is try and steer their own Destiny. They have very little to do with what the other players in the console market are doing.

And yes, going 3rd party is pretty much their only option and is good for them.

RaidenBlack21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

Still whatever little direct competition they're offering against Sony ... that'd be gone, which is never good for consumers.
I know Sony will continue to apease the gamers but without any proper competition in same space, they might not work at the fullest efficiency.
(Taking into account, thats generally been agreed here, that Nintendo has long been not the direct competitor to either MS or Sony)

xHeavYx20h ago

The " without any proper competition in same space, they (Sony) might not work at the fullest efficiency" narrative has been proven false for years. Let's stop pretending that, in terms of games, Xbox has been any competition to Playstation.

fsfsxii20h ago

Sony had 0 competition for most of its playstation business, and they still succeeded, the only thing xbox introduced was paid online and dlc

maniacmayhem19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

Sony had little to no competition during the PS2 era and they have an iconic catalog.

I don't think Sony needs competition in the console space to still release great games. It would be the games that would be competing against each other.

Einhander197219h ago

Xbox does not need to exist for PlayStation to have competition.

They compete with Nintendo, PC, streaming and countless other devices.

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neutralgamer199219h ago

Yes release games on other platforms

Your own gamers still get the games day one on GP. So GP will grow and stay stabilize

By releasing the games on PC,PlayStation and next switch they can get $70 for their games.

MS didn't invest 100 billion for nothing. This way Xbox generates way more revenue

GhostScholar11h ago

And Sony is doing the same thing whether you want to admit it or not.

anast23h ago

The show was like a sub-show for Sony. All these games are coming to PS5.

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outsider162422h ago

You gotta admit though..xbox showcase was actually really great.

RpgSama22h ago

I mean, yes, it was an Activision, Blizzard, Bethesda presentation, they just so happened to buy all of those publishers, nothing we would not have seen on any other award show if they had not bought developers that were and STILL are developing multiplatform games.

If you remove them you are left with Microsoft game studios, another Fable, Another Gears, Perfect Dark which for me didn't look all that great, Avowed, Age of mythology and south of midnight (might be missing something I guess)

anast22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

No better than any other show. There weren't any major new announcements, which is what everyone has been complaining about. The bar shouldn't get lowered for a trillion dollar company.

crazyCoconuts21h ago

"another Fable, another Gears, Perfect Dark"?
That's a lot of pretty great "anothers".
I could use a few of those "anothers" from Sony right now.

helicoptergirl20h ago

Yes it was a really great showcase that Xbox had. Multiplats and all. Overall it was really cool

Terry_B20h ago

for pc and playstation..yes it was. Not a single reason was given to buy an xbox.

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thesoftware73021h ago

anast,

"All these games are coming to PS5."

Very disingenuous statement... Some, but not all.

Oh, so that is the new narrative, "sub-show for Sony." lol, wow.

The sad part is that you are clearly and fully aware that it is very unlikely for any 1hr and 30min gaming presentation show to showcase ALL Exclusives, it just doesn't happen.

And don't you think it sad that MS had a better Sony showing than Sony? If I were you, I wouldn't consider that a flex, lol.?

anast18h ago

They are coming to PS5, the ones that matter of course.

There is nothing sad here. You might need to start your argument without an emotive.

I don't think they had a better showing. Unless we lower the bar for only Xbox.

crazyCoconuts21h ago

None of us really know how much they're going third party. They're still ACTING like they want to protect the platform - no mention of PS5 in their show, still marketing the console, still using the Xbox logo.
Yeah Phil acknowledged more is coming to PS5. But is that Indiana Jones? Perfect Dark? Gears?
If they keep those key properties in their stable it's not accurate to label them as simply 3rd party.
They may very well still be in the game after all...

anast18h ago

@Coconut

Sony did the same in their last. They showed games that were already announced.

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Giga_Gaia23h ago

We need to stop pretending like Xbox matters and has any influence in the industry.

By entering the industry, Microsoft made it worst, everything bad in the industry can be tied to them (like paid online and DLCs). The industry would be better off if they had never been in it.

Before you say Sony would have no competition, they would still have PC and Nintendo. As they are right now, Microsoft are not competition, they don't actually matter.

crazyCoconuts21h ago

I think you're mostly right. They've been failing on console and will most likely drop out.
But the concern a lot of us had was that they would use their $ to win monopolistically. They've already bought a huge number of big studios. Going multi-platform would alleviate that concern.
But they could still turn the screws, this game isn't over quite yet... They're sending mixed signals.

CrimsonWing6923h ago

I think in Xbox’s direness it is, but let’s not pretend like they don’t understand the value of exclusiveness to their platform. Not every damn Xbox game is coming to PS5 and the stuff that has hit have either been GaaS games or games that didn’t exactly sell gamgbusters and are extremely niche.

When Halo, Gears, Forza, Perfect Dark, Fable, etc. start coming to PS5 then that’s pretty massive and also diminishes any reason to own an Xbox.

LucasRuinedChildhood23h ago

Doom isn't niche. It was heavily implied that all Bethesda games, outside of games with contractual agreements and the existing multiplayer games, would all be exclusive to Xbox.

CrimsonWing6921h ago(Edited 21h ago)

Ok, sorry, Doom is the exception.

My point is Xbox is still keeping exclusives for their bigger games. What’s been released are GaaS: Sea of Thieves, Grounded aka Honey I Shrunk the Kids, and then niche stuff like Pentiment and Hi-Fi Rush. Then you got Doom coming out, which is an outlier, I suppose.

crazyCoconuts21h ago

It's not niche but it's not everything.
MS has got a HUGE cache of IP and studios now

Scissorman23h ago

It's the only decision. Hardware sales are on a sharp decline and Game Pass growth has stagnated.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Direct

Xbox writes: "Join us for a double feature on June 9, 10am PT - Xbox Games Showcase immediately followed by Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Direct.  The Xbox Games Showcase is your look at the new games from Xbox Game Studios, Activision, Blizzard, Bethesda, as well as our partners from around the globe. Immediately following the Showcase, stay tuned for Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Direct for a special deep-dive into the beloved franchise."

ravens521d 18h ago

I'm here. Waiting in anticipation to see some games 🤙🏽

GamerRN1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

I'll be honest, if they don't announce some major shit, this could be the nail in the coffin.

If I hear about major 1st party titles going multiplatform, it's over.

They need to build the brand trust right now. A lot of damage has been done.

We need bangers, AND some news about next Gen.

Flawlessmic1d 17h ago

It's just started 4 games in and it's already been a fantastic show.

This is gonna be the best showcase in years

VersusDMC1d 17h ago

New Doom dark ages anounced for PS5 as well...

GamerRN1d 17h ago

So far this is a great show, and mostly all GamePass games? Looks like the bangers are finally coming!

Investments finally paying off.

Now they need new hardware so they can start over

Sonic18811d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

So far the best showcase this year

Flawlessmic1d 17h ago

At this rate, best show of the last 2-4 years, been an absolute bangerrrrr so far!!!

Pixykont1d 17h ago

Perfect dark looks incredible

shinoff21831d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

Agreed. Way better then what Sony did and has done. Those multiplayer games really fked Sony over for a few years. Xbox showed off some good looking stuff. I'm most interested in state of decay 3.

1Victor1d 11h ago

@obcured:”BEST XBOX SHOWCASE EVER!!!!”
You need at least 10real people to agree in writing with you for anyone here believing you after saying the same thing year over year for the last 10+ years.
Now that I finished watching the show for me personally it was a ok as I don’t play FP games but that’s just me and I can recognize that for people that like FPG it’s a amazing show so ENJOY them.
Another thing and I hope for Microsoft sake they don’t do their next system digital only based on the S sales over the X, I hope they’ll learn the lesson of not making a lower power version just to try to undercut their competitor.
Metal gear 3 looked sweet.
Overall a lot of pretty games CONGRATS to all Xbox gamers this is what you deserve year over year 👍✨

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lelo2play1d 15h ago

Great showcase by Microsoft. So many interesting games...

RaidenBlack21h ago

Only thing I missed was Clockwork Revolution...
And what happened to Everwild? Liked the art style.

Lightning771d 18h ago

Very certain Perfect Dark will show up. fable showing up and 2025 release date.

Unpopular opinion here but INL think Final Fantasy 16 will release on Xbox. I dunno if it'll be on Gamepass but I think it's going to other platforms now.

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Obscure_Observer1d 18h ago

HERE WE GOOO!!!

Time to see what amazing games Xbox Game Studios has been cooking for us, boys!!!

THE HYPE IS REAL!!!

Sonic18811d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

I'm glad Microsoft had a great show. Hopefully this show potentially wakes up Sony and Nintendo. Competition is good for the industry. We don't need publishers and developers to get comfortable and get lazy on us. Keep them thinking and on their toes

cthulhucultist1d 15h ago

well said Sonic. Competition is beneficial for us gamers

Master-Tonberry1d 14h ago

Absolutely agree, many of the games shown are also coming to PS5 (despite MS hiding other platforms from the reveals) but the genuine exclusive all look great. Nintendo will obviously continue to carve it's own path and will be very busy with the Switch 2, but Sony and PlayStation really needs to pull it's socks up and start bringing out the big guns or people are going to start losing faith. Hopefully the rumours of a big PlayStation Experience show later this year are true.

anast23h ago

The main knock on Sony is that there haven't been any major first party announcements. Xbox does a show with no major announcements.

The_Hooligan1d 15h ago

This showcase was great. Not just a great Xbox showcase but in general the best one this year so far.

Kurisu1d 18h ago

I'm tuned in now. I can't say I've ever been big in to Xbox, but I got myself a Series S when it launched. Can't say I've used it much but I'm intrigued to see what's in the pipeline.

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