IGN's Overall Best of E3 2008 Awards

IGN writes:
"The criteria we use to pick our E3 favorites are simple. With the exception of Best Non-Playable Presentation and Special Achievement in Innovative Design, all "Best of E3" nominees had to be playable on the show floor or at one of its related events. In other words, the game had to be manipulated in real-time and, additionally, could not yet be available for consumer purchase. Because these games are works in progress and not yet complete, winners are chosen based on the quality of the software at this stage, as well as its ultimate potential heading towards its future release. All editors that attended IGN were allowed to vote, and because our teams are split into platform teams, we also compiled system-specific lists in addition to our overall awards."

[MK_Red]

Fallout 3:
PS3 game of the show = Check.
360 game of the show = Check.
Overall game of the show = Check.
What's next?

[Jack Bauer]

GotY FTW!!!

[tatotiburon]

what's next?...Best DLC

Can't Wait

[morganfell]

My issue isn't what they picked per se (final game excluded) but rather the selection criteria. The fact that a multiplatform game was even nominated for PS3 and 360 game of show is a bit ridiculous. What is the point if you are not going to pick the best of exclusives to that platform. By deduction there is a serious error in their thinking. Were they trying not to embarrass a particular platform with poor depth on the exclusives roster?

Fallout 3 was best PS3 and 360 game. It was nominated for best PC game but finished second to Spore. Yet it won game of the show. So what they are telling us is since Spore beat it on the PC yet Fallout 3 won on the consoles the the console versions of Fallout 3 must be superior to the PC version. See what I mean? No logic at all.

"Well it placed tops on two consoles and 2nd on PC." The game isn't running for president. It is either the best game or it is not.

[poopsack]

why do you get to stop time and pick a body part at anytime giving you a basically guaranteed shot? And some talk about gears and killzone beinig grey but Damn. its still cool to be able to pick between tp and fp and its depth is amazing but I dont get the big deal.

[incogneato]

What's next:
Over-hyped, under-delivered.
Becomes the next Lair. :P

On a side note: IGN's picks are horrible.

[MK_Red]

F3 FTW indeed!

morganfell, for each console, IGN has a unique team. There is a Playstation team out there that chooses the best PS3 games awards. The Xbox team does it for 360 games. Each category is result of votes from the specific team. PC team chose the Spore over Fallout 3. On PC, that was PC team's vote while 2 different teams chose the best for PS3 and 360.

For overall awards, all teams can vote and thats how F3 got the overall win.

KnaveX, the devs were using cheats in the E3 demo version. In the actual game, each body part has a percetage hit and its pretty small unless your level is pretty high and your character has great skill in Big or Small guns.
As for grey, Fallout is the game that showed this 10 years ago and it has a good excuse. The world was NUKED! Every country, city and town was bombed and burnt in ashes. Less than 0.01 of population survived underground vaults. When they emerged 10 years or so later, not only the world was destroy by nuclear explosions but the nature had taken it back and the dust was everywhere. People became savages in this radiated world.
Fallout 3 takes place 200 years after the explosions and things are far worse...

[morganfell]

MK_Red, thanks but I know the way that works. I used to subscribe there as well. The issue is it doesn't change the ill gotten logic they displayed in nominating multiplat games. It doesn't provide any insight to those that are single console owners - I own all 3, but the site is supposed to provide that insight. They do not.

[Sonics020]

Im glad there are more games using PS3 as there lead platform such as Prince of Persia and Mirrors Edge. LBP, Motorstorm, Infamous all look really good too. But No matter what console you own this year there are tons of great games to play this holiday season. I am surprised LBP didn't take any of the awards O well i guess everyone has there opinions.

[Dark vader]

Yea i am surprised as well, i would have though lbp was a sure thing, to at least take one award. Most of ign pick are good but i disagree with some of them. But everyone is entitled to his or her opinion.
Yea i am also glad to see some developers using the ps3 as lead platform

[Willio]

Internet fake awards mean nothing.

[mesh1]

GEARS OF WAR 2 GOT BEST SHOOTER and best graphics from ign the most reliable source yes its the best lookign game this ggen tbh ign agreees.

[Tmac]

LOL Crysis Warhead didn't win and it was a runner up? What a joke, come on IGN keep up with professionalism.

[ngg12345]

Worst than not giving crysis warhead best graphics.

[ngg12345]

It had terrible animations, terrible ai, terrible graphics, and yet it is hailed as the game of show over much more polished games because of its name? Wow.

[Vecta]

Probably because all you saw was what they showed at the Microsoft Press Conference, whereas the journalists actually got to sit down and play the game for a good half hour, so I would say their opinion is more valid at the moment.

[poopsack]

I saw the livewire demo, and the ai would just stand there, not shooting sometimes.

[ngg12345]

I'm pretty sure that the game quality won't change regardless, because what was shown was downright terrible. Who cares what they saw. If bethsheda had more impressive stuff, then they would have probably shown it to the public. What are they trying to hide? Same can be said about assasin creed in e3 07. Won all these game of shows, looked like crap in the e3 demo presentattion, got low review scores.

[morganfell]

For anyone that is in the game industry then they know that you like to have the AI locked at 6 months but you absolutely wouldn't want to go inside 3 months as it makes the bug hunting in many areas impossible. All I am saying is other than some tweaks do not expect an AI Second Coming.

The facts. The street date is October 7. Back that off 3 weeks for production and shipping. That is September 16. Now back that off 2 weeks for publisher as well as Sony and Microsoft to do their Q/A. That takes us to September 2. Which is less than a month and a half away. Here is the bad news. That crap AI, other than a few tweaks, isn't going to get a hell of a lot better.

[Vecta]

And yet the game will be loved by people who take it for what it is, an RPG, not Call of Duty or Gears of War.

[Uncguy0457]

I was really excited for Fallout 3 until the E3 demo. The whole game looked bland and boring. The gameplay looked stiff and uninteresting. I feel like the press decided they were going to give this game straight 10s regardless of its quality.

[incogneato]

I agree completely. This game looked boring and amateurish to me. I still am having trouble believe that everyone is excited about it. And to call it Game of the Show? They have to be smoking something.

[Overr8ed]

WTF? Gears beat Killzone for graphics is IGN are M$ drugs... Gears looks great no doubt but it beating killzone 2 graphics, that pure sh!t coming out of their mouths

@ below, yea i saw it, but it all that matters is being the best and ign clearly didnt see the best. Really Crysis should have been up there too.

[Tmac]

Uh.. Did you miss THEE runner up? Crysis didn't even win for Graphics which is probably one of the most non-professional things IGN has awarded to date.

[The Lazy One]

Like most performance sports that are scored. If you fall AT ALL ice skating, you are almost guaranteed no higher than a 3rd place score. Even if you pull off the single craziest trick ever.

Killzone did look great, but there were a few places that were off, and they probably brought it down from what would have been a win.

[DaTruth]

The Fanboy magazine of E3 goes to IGN. And I called it before I even hit the jump.

[tatotiburon]

Gears of War 2 will rule once again

[dro]

im suprised that killzone 2 did not get best graphics. well people have different opinions so i guess the gys at ign prefer gears2 look to killzone 2,i like the look of killzone2 more but gears2 looks amazing as well.

[dro]

u should get deleted by mod any moment from now (-_-)

[tatotiburon]

people you only saw KZ2 in videos and pics, nothing more, IGN actually play the game or the demo and play GeOW2 as well...so they like it more GeOW2, take it like a man.

[Tmac]

Lol show's how much you know.

[tatotiburon]

and you probably know more than IGN right?....NON-PROESSIONAL things? LOL!!....grow up.

[Tmac]

The guy with a Starwars Avatar is tellin' me to grow up lmao. Okay "tatotiburon".

[Dark vader]

Gametrailers sad down and played both games as well. And they gave the best graphic awards to killzone 2. But 9 out of 10 people will tell you that killzone looks better then gears of war.

[Gamekilla]

but i am glad fat princess got 2 nominations and a win

[DA_SHREDDER]

And they are like the biggest 360 fanboys on the planet, and even they had to say that Killzone was the best looking game at E3. Jesus, even Project Origin looked better than Gears of War 2 did. I prefer to call it Gears 1.5 myself, because it does nothing to really push the envelope compared to games like Resistance 2,, with its massive 60 online.

Speaking of Resistance, I bet I know why people didnt think Resistance looked better than Gears. Its probably because all the fan boys couldnt believe that all of what was shown from R2 was actually in game and not CG. They probably said to themselves that you cant compare the two because all that resistance was showing was CG.

[thenickel]

Or maybe not everybody has the same opinion as you...If you think those games look better then fine but don't sit up here and act like your opinion is the only one that matters.I think Gears2 looks slightly better then KZ2 and much better then RFOM2 but thats my opinion and I don't expect anyone to agree with me if they don't want to. SOme of you take this crap way to serious lol.

[Dark360]

BUHHHHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHH NOOOOO KRAPZONE 2 NOOOOOOO UPSSS SORRY KILLZONE 2 NOOOOOOOOOO...SORRY PS3 DROIDS YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH...JAJAJAJAJAJA

GEARS OF WAR 2 #1

KILLZONE 2 (KRAPZONE 2) #2

JAJAJAJAJAJAJA...LOL...JAJAJA JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA

[Tmac]

Gametrailers a biased 360 site couldn't even deny Killzone 2 looked better than Gears of War 2 LOL.

[juuken]

You tried but failed miserably. :*

[pwnsause]

dark360, you try too hard. stop drinking that gay fuel.

[NeoBasch]

I'm not even going to get in this argument. IGN thinks Gears 2 had best graphics. Whatever; they're opinion. Objectively speaking Killzone 2, inFamous, Crysis, and Mirror's Edge should have been the nominees, with KZ2 bringing home the gold. But whatever. :D

I was looking over the rumored Guitar Hero World Tour setlist and started listening to this song. Been listening to it all day, but I never knew how handy it would become. Perfect expression of Gears 2 winning Best Graphics: http://www.youtube.com/watc... @ 2:35 through 3:15. The orange haired girl being me, and the girl in the blue dress being Gears 2. I can't stop laughing. :D Just perfect. Speaks volumes. Actually the whole video does from that perspective. o_O

[NeoBasch]

F#ck, what happened to the link? Sorry, I'll try again. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Gamekilla]

- resident evil 5 > mirror's edge for best action game

- Left4dead gets a shooter nomination and killzone 2 doesn't

- Gears of war 2 beats killzone 2 AND Crysis for best graphics....ummm...NO

- "rhythm heaven" beats resistance retirbution and castlevania for best handheld game....are they serious?

- IGN's love for prince of persia, it gets overall nomination and best console nomination....i mean the game is looking great but is far from the best games at e3..

also a screw up: they spend nearly all of shaun white's snowboarding discussing the wii but the wii is never mentioned as an available console for the game....

those are my 2 cents....

[thenickel]

Wells you have your opinion just like they do and I myself agree with of there choices.

[Common Sense]

When Killzone 2 comes out and smokes every other console game graphically, IGN will look like an idiot for saying Gears 2 looks better. I mean, even the most hardened 360 fanboys KNOW K2 looks better and they actually admit it. Not that it matters anyway, the only opinion I truly care about is my opinion and My opinion is that Killzone 2 looks better than Gears 2. Some people might differ, but that's fine because it's their opinion no matter how obvious it might seem.

[Zhuk]

Only Xbox 360 provides gamers and developers with a true next generation home entertainment platform where games truly come alive with award winning titles and awe inspiring graphical fidelity.

Gears of War 2's crowning as the King of graphics is well rewarded, with it being the most amazing looking game ever seen by mankind, Only available on the Xbox 360 platform. Killzone 2 has been proven inferior in every way to Gears of War 2, which just proves how much of a garbage developer Guerilla Games is, proving themselves incapable yet again of creating a decent game with flop after flop. I personally look forward to Sony wasting $40 million on a piece of shovelware because of their poorly designed hardware and their arrogance to think a third rate developer could ever challenge the likes of Epic Studio, who have seen that Only Xbox 360 can give them the platform for them to fully realize the creative visions.

Gears of War 2, the greatest shooter ever made, out this November on Xbox 360, it truly is a great year to Jump In

[poos3]

hhahahahahah dont forgot killzone has been in development for the ps3 for 4-5years what a joke ridiculous a game that they have spent 5 years on cant even look better than a game in development for 2 years imagine if epic had 5yrs to make gears of war 2 hahah it would prolly look better than the original crysis but still 2 years in developments and looking far better than killzone 2 is a show what a real developer is capable with superior 360 hardware the machine isa beast again confirmed gears of war 2 is the best looking game this year and took 2 years to make on the 360 incredible.

[blackbeld]

Greatest? are u kidding our u are a kid.. GoW have no sniper rifles..no variety off weapons the only weapon u have to the end off the game is only...and ONLY ONE CHAINSAW GUN THAT IS FREEKING PATETHIC... IT SHOULD BE CALLED (EMPTY GEARS OF WAR) REALY STUPID GAME HOW PPL SHE THIS AS A SHOOTER 3TH person shoot better dont shoot... and cartoon graphics not even realistic graphic like cod4.

[funkysolo]

But hey everyone is entitle to their opinion. But you can't deny Killzone2 looks better than gears2 it's not matter of taste it's a matter of fact. I can deal with them picking genre games because that's what they like but you can't deny Killzone2 graphically more impressive than gears2. Graphics is technical and not about taste...

[Shoko]

OMG. Look, I love all three consoles, and I have all three. But it's just a fact that Killzone looks better than gearz 2. It's just a fact. If you don't think so, then your just being stubborn. Sorry, but it's just a fact. Saying Gearz 2 looks better than Killzone is like saying Night isn't dark......it just dosen't make any snese.

[ActionBastard]

1up's selections were better.

[DA_SHREDDER]

But it is far from being the best looking game at E3. Ive seen damn near every trailer, screen shot, preview of almost every game that is coming out, and from that, here is my out take on E3 this year.

1) Watching the trailers from Fallout and actually seeing the gameplay, I learned that Fallout is not even worth a rental. Fallout 3 is easily the most overhyped game at E3.

2) Gears 2 is exactly what Gears 1 should have been. I consider the new game in the series just an update to the first one, and Epic could have saved alot of money on development if they just made a patch. Cmon, how hard is it to turn multiplayer from 4 vs. 4 to 5 vs. 5? Its not like they actually pushed the envelope when they added the moving cover fire mechanic. I still laugh at that one.

3) Microsoft is Acting too much like Nintendo, and going after the casual market instead of making 1st party games. How many studios does microsoft have? Rare? Bungie? Cmon, give me some games that make me wet myself Microsoft,, stop wasting millions of dollars on multiplat games and I bet eventually you could have a game worth bragging about having on your system

4) Sony is not getting enough credit where its due. Sony has done nothing but bleed and sweat and has lost billions of dollars to make AAA titles, but yet Microsoft gets praised for having multiplat games on their system like Fallout and FF 13? If thats not bias in its truest for then I dont know what is?

5) Nintendo is losing its soul to the casual market. Not only did they leave out the hardcore in its presentation, but they brushed off the hardcore by saing that games like animal crossing is hardcore. They got so rich off of the casual market that they forgot how to make good games. They are drowing in their own money.

I could go on and on about this but Im sure this post is long enough. I've pretty much had it talking about all of this stuff that will never get into most of you peoples thick skulls. One more thing though. I actually like IGN, and I can say that Im pretty sure that this list above is actually not the voice of IGN as a whole. If you listen to the podcast like I do, you will see that most of the staff actually is amazed most by Killzone 2 and thought that it was the best game at the show,, by a far margin. But it is what it is. I own both consoles, but at least I got my sanity to go with it. I wish I could say the same about all the fanboys.

[DiabloRising]

I mostly agree with you. I can really say, without a doubt, that Sony has the strongest first party lineup of studios and titles out of the big 3. And I never thought I'd say that, but Nintendo has lost site of their original fanbase and rehashed instead of innovated, even with their own titles.

Here's a hint Ganon, if your minion's weakness is the hookshot, don't put him in the same damn temple to guard the friggin thing. That should mix things up nicely!

[Vecta]

Don't worry, you will have rented Fallout 3 by years end.

[blackbeld]

IGN sucks.. they are always 360 fan... they gave haze a 4 wtf.. i played haze it should be 7.5 at least. IGN sucks.. they always bring 360 on a better level and like this GoW best looking shooter? wtf... Killzone2 is much more realistic graphics and more detailed. everybody knows its the best looking.. IGN sucks.. i never trust that site and only get popups commercial. i bet u microsoft pays them a lot of money..

[Exile__]

I still don't see.. whats so good about Fallout 3? The original teaser interested me.. now seeing the actual gameplay bores me.

[DiabloRising]

Can someone please tell me why an FPS and a Third Person shooter are put into the same category? I'll never understand people's need to compare Resistance with Gears, when the gameplay is way, way different.

[DA_SHREDDER]

My feelings on why I hate Fallout is the reason why most people like it. I hate the new Vats system. To me it takes the soul out of what a fps is. All about skill. Shooting arrows in Oblivion required skill. Imagine having the VATS system in that game? It would just ruin it right? And another thing. You can take like 20 clips to your head before you die in that game. I guess Im just the type of guy who actually likes a little realism in a game. When you shoot a nuke at someone 20 feet away, you should have meet the same fate as the people your shooting at. But I guess thats just my opinion.

I really hate to say it, but I think video games as a whole is getting a little too casual for my taste. I remember when Prince of Persia was a real badass, but now hes got some girl to help him up when he falls, whats up with that man? I mean, I understand its a business, but there has to be a line drawn somewhere, and I think the only people that are actually doing it is companies like Sony,, who put the hardcore gamer first,, and worry about the consequences last.

I maybe a Sony fanboy, but there is alot of logic behind my reason why I feel like this. Its not because I hate the 360,, I think its a great machine,, its just I recognize royalty when I see it. I know real when I see real. And the ps3 and the Sony studios is the purest form of hardcore entertainment that money can buy. Even Microsoft doesnt have enough money to buy all the talent that Sony has working on their side.

[-M4verick-]

lol you are morons with no life. Killzone and Gears BOTH look amazing. They both look so good its hard to even say which looks better. It's just a matter of opinion, literally.

Gears 2 is going to crush Killzone 2 as far as bieing the better game and sales, though. ;)

[solar]

Best Mulitplayer Game: Left 4 Dead....no wonder the ps3 brats hate Valve. because of their constant AAA titles they, as a great developer they are, release. play L4D on 360? no. on PC. where Valve games are the best. no proprietary restrictions.

[InMyOpinion]

Wow. Could you cry any more?

Wait until the games are out and have a look for yourself.

[jollygoodchap8]

Maybe they should get their eyes checked.

Come on now, that's beyond ridiculous.

Was it shown in medium to low settings?

[wangdiddy82]

i just lost faith in IGN again.. they really do suck..

[fermcr]

I don't necessarily agree with some of their choices.

Opinions are like asshol*s ... everybody has one :)

[power of Green]

Killzone 2 has good and bad moments graphically, it has great lighting(although GoW2 *now* has simular lighting).

Gears is more solid across the board graphically Killzone has lighting hiding it's textures. The small details are inferior in KZ2 I'm sure sence IGN has spent time playing these games they see this, all we can do is watch video's.

[power of Green]

Just one Example: A broken piece of concret in KZ2 will show painted looking cracks and bump-mapped rocks at different heights inside the broken slab, with fat black lines at times.

In Gears 2 the broken concret slab will show the individual rocks with superior bump-mapping with the lighting wraping around the pebbles creating different sheen due to the light reflecting at different angles(Like race tracks in more advanced Race games but more extream.

KZ2
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GOW2
http://www.1up.com/media/03...
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KZ2 looks good for a PS3 game but people are over reacting blurring the lines between *looks good for a PS3 game* with *it is the best looking game, ever!.

There are things I do like about Killzone 2's looks but I have never agreed that it looks better than gears although KZ2 looks good with its lighting tricks; GOW2 looks like an animated CGI movie at times.

[Mr BlueScreen]

To lay off the green buddy.

[TheExecutive]

yeah,

I dont agree with one of their picks, MAYBE mirrors edge thats about it.

IGN: -3 respect points.

[MrBigShot100]

That article just symbolizes the main reason why I don't take IGN seriously anymore when it comes to rating games and giving game news to people. That whole best of E3 article they put together made no sense. I love gears and think gears 2 is amazing as far as graphics but I dont' think it's going to compare to what killzone 2 will deliver graphically. Plus, you have fallout 3 as best game for the PS3 & 360 but it loses in the best PC game to spore but then wins game of show for them? Huh? What the hell was that, why wouldn't Spore be the game of show for you when you obviously thought it was better than Fallout 3? IGN is run by retards now and it's sad cause I use to take their website seriously.

[TheExecutive]

1up's picks are infinitely better.

[Daz]

Have any of you read why they vote gears of war 2 for best graphics. properly not. Looks are not the only part of the graphics you know.

Best Graphics Technology:
Gears of War 2

Developer: Epic Games
Publisher: Microsoft
Release Date: November 2008
Shown at E3 on: X360
Also Coming to: N/A

There were a lot of beautiful looking games at E3 2008, but none held our eye as long as Gears of War 2. Some very deserving titles made our short list, but at the end of the day, it was Epic's uncanny ability to squeeze magic out of the (upgraded) Unreal Engine 3 that wowed us most.

From the updated soft-body physics to the fantastic water effects and realistic cover destruction, Gears 2 reminded us why Tim Sweeney and the tech team at Epic are some of the best in the business. Not only does Gears 2 look pretty in pictures and HD videos, it also runs like a dream. In our lengthy time playing the Horde co-op mode at a Microsoft event at E3, we saw no slowdown, tearing, crashes or hiccups whatsoever. Here's hoping the finished product looks as good on launch day as it did in L.A.

Some of you need to grow up. Its only a GAME. Also everyone has a different opinion so there is no need to hate because they selected one you dont want them to. Really sad people on this site.

[San anto]

im sorry but LBP deserves atleast innovation or platformer