Matt-IGN's Too Human Impressions

Matt-IGN Writes: "'ve received about a dozen e-mails from readers asking for my opinion of Too Human, but I've held off on writing anything about the title until I could sink some quality time into it. The game seems to have been scrutinized recently by the press and also by the NeoGAF forum, I suspect because of several factors. One, it's been in development for a long time. You could say since the PS1 era, although such a claim is hardly fair. Too Human was an altogether different game back then. The title as it exists today was started on Xbox 360. Two, SK president Denis Dyack is an outspoken guy who has talked up the title. And when you talk something up, anything less than megatonian is bound to be a letdown. And three, Too Human was unfortunately shown in an extremely rough state at E3 2006, and SK has had to battle to overcome the perception that the title is incredibly flawed ever since. Thus, the scrutiny, which is practically unavoidable. Any hands-on update, my own included, would at this point have to touch upon, bare minimum, whether or not the game has delivered on its potential."

Read on for more...

[MK_Red]

Pretty positive preview. Can't wait for the varied review scores. This will be one of those games that each site gives a suprising score to it ranging from 4-5 to 9 if this super positive preview and super negative previews from other sites are any indication.

[Lord Vader]

"Control and combat are surprisingly tight and fun -- these two areas represented my biggest concerns going in, but they have really come together since the first time I saw the game in motion. The story is engaging. And the loot / character and weapon upgrade system is very deep and addictive."

"When you are significantly leveled up and sliding all over the screen in a flash, popping enemies into the air and holding them there with your guns, the game is downright intense, not to mention thoroughly satisfying."

Awesome, awesome news. Can't wait for August !

[ry-guy]

I'm up for this game too. I've been keeping an eye on it for the past year now.

[MK_Red]

I'm with you both. I'm definitly getting this one and using my own judgement. I may love it or hate it but at least, will find out which previewers were right (At least according to my tastes).

[ry-guy]

The poor previews seemed to be written with this undertone of Silicon Knights kicking their dogs and not liking their mothers cooking. It almost seems like some of these negative previewers are offended by the game. Perhaps it is just me.

[Mr_Bun]

I agree...but it is nice to see a good (unbiased) review of the game, and from someone who actually played the game!

[u got owned]

It's good to finally see a good preview of this game. I've been following this game since it was announce and is good to see that some people really appreciate what Sk has done with this game.

Great news, cant wait.

[Bnet343]

I am not giving up on this game. Silicon Knights deserve a chance.

[MK_Red]

Good point ry-guy. Some preview it in a way that you think they have personal problems with devs.

[Superfragilistic]

BUBBLES FOR YOU ALL! :)

[AlienGorilla]

Talk about Deja Vu. This is almost the same case as was with Haze for PS3. Haze got pushed back several times, and TH was in development for ever. In both situations the hype was built up sooooo much that many were disappointed with the final product.

I have a feeling the review scores are going to mirror Haze, if not be a little stronger. Haze got reviews that averaged to 4.0 to 9.0, granted with more below average review. Something tells me there is going to be the same disparity with the review scores of Too Human.

Before i get bashed and called a Sony Fanboy, I'll have all of you know that I never played the Haze, just the demo. My impressions of the demo were: awful graphics, generic shooting, nothing special. On my 60" 1080p SXRD it looked like an N64 game.

[green]

"I get the feeling some people actually want to hate it. But I really don't think the hate is warranted. There is no effin' way in this life or the next Too Human can accurately be gauged a bad game. It's just not."

And that is the simple truth.People just want to hate on this game for no apparent reason and all the hate they have giving the game has already sealed the fate of Too Human because i don't see this game having any commercial success.

It might not end up a AAA title but it will be a good game none the less and a game worth owning because i know i will be purchasing this game come august 29th.

[Lord Vader]

"I'm sure there will be those out there who hate Too Human. I get the feeling some people actually want to hate it. But I really don't think the hate is warranted. There is no effin' way in this life or the next Too Human can accurately be gauged a bad game. It's just not. Period. What it will boil down to, I think, is whether it's a great game or merely a good one."

Excellent article.

[Pornlord]

I'll be playing it, I don't know when, maybe after the price drop or buy it used. There will be a lot of copies returned being short as it is. It sounds good though, looking forward to it.

[dachiefsman]

lol you did exactly what I was going to do!

[Pornlord]

You can disagree all you want with me, 10 hours is not gonna satisfy my lust for an RPG, 10 hours is a renter RPG. That's it. You might be able to dress differently, but he speaks nothing of a lot of side quests to fill in more time, it's just a straight 10 hours. Now that's fine if that's what you want. But my attention span is longer than that, and I think if your gonna make an RPG, make it long and have a great story.

It looks fun, I'm not arguing that, just doesn't look like the end all of RPG's. I think it's a shame the rep it's gotten, my beef is not with it's rep, my beef is that he's played for 6 hours and is 60% through the game. That's bull. Even Enchanted arms took me almost 50 and that game doesn't look like half the game this one could be. IMO

More disagrees please!!!!

[Superfragilistic]

Yeah when I read that earlier today *Meatlof voice* "it took the words right outta my mouth!"

Bubbles for you Green for pointing out the best quote as yet.

From what I've seen, and may have played ;), I share similar feelings to Matt and I feel the game is still on track for a Metacritic of 8 (+/- 5).

It's not everyone's cup of tea, but for those who like their tea it's one hell of a tasty cup! :)

EDIT: Given my tea analogy, if you're looking for a 50hr RPG story Pornlord I'd concur and say look for different leaves, but if you're looking for an RPG stat and loot fest this is the cuppa you'll want! (The story lasts 10hrs but the gameplay is easily upwards of 50hrs and if you want everything in terms of maxed levels and loot you're looking at more than double that!)

[Pornlord]

I hope you are right super, I would love for this game to be as good as it sounds. It is my cup of tea as you put it, I just hope it's 50 hours of gameplay. Maybe he's zipping through it, doing none of the side quests.

I suppose that I put myself in a reviewers shoes when I read a review. And if a game took me 10-12 hours to beat, that meant I left no stone unturned, took every path, and raped every monster nest on my way to the end. Then I'll take a different approach on my second playthrough. If what you say is true, then we can't trust any game reviewers scoring because they just try to get through the game as fast as possible. What is the point in that?? I'll give it a shot, and hope you are right, because it would be a waste of a good idea if you're wrong.

Edit: What we need is a game review site that actually has gamers and not journalists. They confuse me with the lengths of the games like this. I love RPG's. Maybe I'll start my own in depth game review website and pull a few intelligent members of this site to help write reviews... it's in my power to do so. Not a bad idea :)

[Superfragilistic]

You raise a good point about games journalism, and I think what this preview indicates is that the more time journalists/gamers spend with Too Human the more they get it and get out of it.

As you may have seen with the 1UP video preview they had played it through once but yet had no idea about the hidden rooms, runes and the combat/inventory depth.

My hope is that given the gold version should be in reviewer's hands at least two-three weeks in advance in the US and at least a month for European reviewers, enough time will pass for journalists to "get" Too Human and discover that hidden depth.

The story is great, but it's the loot/levelling/classes/combat/ co-op that will keep people coming back! Hopefully journalists will get to play through several times before posting reviews and quite frankly I wouldn't trust any reviewer's opinion who hasn't done so come release day. :)

[Pornlord]

Agreed, you have swayed my opinion. I said I would give the game a shot but I will reserve my opinion until I play it myself (Hopefully a demo). Good points. Bubbles to you!

[mariusmal]

this is the real best quote of the day

"It's not everyone's cup of tea, but for those who like their tea it's one hell of a tasty cup!"

[MK_Red]

Some times some people just WANT to hate some games. Assassin's Creed was one. The moment IGN and 1UP gave it 7 (Seriously unfairly IMO), everyone started saying how "They knew it's a bad game" and how "they called it" even though hours ago they were fans and now are saying these even though haven't played the game by themselves. Granted, there were no negative previews of AC but still many people just wanted to hate it and attack Jade Raymond, it's producer.

Now they wanna hate Dennis Dyack and Too Human. People really need to hate and just play games for what they are. Also, I'm not saying that Too Human will be as great as Assassin's but it will at least be a good game. Merely good or really good is based on opinion.

[meepmoopmeep]

a lot of games get hated and it's a shame.

i'm glad the game is shaping up to be really good.

[Bnet343]

That also went for Ninja Gaiden 2.

[TheColbertinator]

I liked Assassins Creed.It was repetitive but I did like the graphics,the story,the gameplay,the platforming,and the vibrance of the ancient cities.As for Too Human,we gotta wait and see.

[MK_Red]

It's indeed a shame.

Kigmal, in NG2's case, at least people waited till reviews came out. TH is being punished without a single review.

As for Assassin's Creed, I agree with some repetitiveness but the game was insanely awesome. Love it.

[ry-guy]

I liked AC as well. For some reason that game, at times, made me a bit motion sick. I don't know why, it could've been issues with framerates. Moments I liked for that game were stealth kills and diving off of tall buildings. Each time I dove off a tall building it gave me that stomach dropping feeling like jumping off a high dive.

My only critisms of the game were the stealth kill missions where you had to kill in the open guards. I got so frustrated with the one involving guards wandering around the market and the alertiveness of the guards seemed uncanny. I never understood the extreme hate for that game either.

In my book it was a solid 8/10, which isn't a bad thing at all.

[Superfragilistic]

MK you get bubbles for being the second person today that's "took the words right outta my mouth!"

I've argued for weeks, from a much more informed and NDA tight position than most, that Assassins Creed is a much fairer comparison than the ridiculous Haze/Lair comparisons from those who want to hate. It's the perfect parallel for Too Human in a number of ways, but most prominently in its overhype, repetive gameplay and the subsequently divided opinion.

I'm reprinting something I've written elsewhere that explains my position. So please forgive the length. :)

"Although Assassins had beautiful animations and a next-gen polish for its time, it really divided people with it's shallow and repetitive gameplay and opinion-dividing story. Some loved it, some hated it. It got a metacritic of 80, with scores ranging from 5's to 10's. It didn't meet the hype for most, but it exceeded sales expectations considerably. And in the process created a viable franchise.

In Too Human's case whilst the presentation seems short of Assassins the wide array of art design of objects and settings may compensate. The gameplay appears repetitive, but so was Diablo's click-click as was Assassins. The saving grace for gameplay may be the hidden depth, but only if SK does more to actually tell reviewers and gamers about it! How about a tutorial or virtual combat practice mode? In regards to the story I feel it has the same draw as Assassins with a refreshing setting and interesting subtext. But I suspect it's length and ideas will be hit and miss with gamers much like AC. Co-op on the other hand looks to be a strong pulling power for PC dominated groups of Diablo/dungeon crawler/MMO gamers looking for loot/XP/levelling up experiences on a console.

In regards to critical reception I very much expect a similar experience to AC. A Metacritic around 80 (with a margin of error of +/- 5) seems entirely reasonable given initial reactions and the divisions in opinion.

Will it meet the hype? I think the previews have already answered that!

Will it be any good? I think that depends on what type of game you expect or want to play.

Will it sell? I think if it manages a Metacritic of 75+ and MS pushes a clearly defined story pitch and an action gaming experience with co-op then yes.

Being a dungeon crawler/action game, it's the only true loot fest on modern consoles and whilst it may alienate many in the shooter crowd it may well pull PC Diablo/MMO fans. The gameplay's action focus and its apparent pick up and play nature may well attract significant parts of the third person action crowd. The story also has some pull and as AC proved if the story creates interest amongst consumers (even if it eventually under-whelms), it can become a significantly important marketing tool, particularly amongst more story/RPG focused gamers. The European background of the story may well help generate additional interest in Europe as well.

My point is, is that Too Human should be a commercial success if it gets a decent critical reception. It is not an easily pigeon-holed game like Halo or Gears which have a very specifically targeted crowd, where gameplay, graphics and multi are king. Too Human has the UNCONFIRMED potential to sell on three very different fronts:

- a PC/Diablo stat and loot fest.
- a third person action and co-op title.
- a deep, complex RPG-esque story.

It's almost like a diversified stock portfolio, hedging its bets on more than one market. It could conceivably fail at one or two of the above and still sell well at the expense of reviews from gamers in the failed fronts.

But if I were a betting man, it really rests on whether the pick up and play action has wide enough appeal and is marketed as such. If it succeeds with that and gives players an interest in playing (story), it will be commercially viable (just like AC). And a new franchise will become much more likely."

[ry-guy]

While reading your above post something occured to me that probably helped AC and which Too Human really needs: tv marketing.

I have seen zero tv spots for Too Human. Assassin's Creed had them littered every where on TV. It would be nice to see some Too Human promotion. That would help sales.

[Superfragilistic]

Spot on!

This game needs to be promoted like hell. It fills a massive genre void in the console market (dungeon crawling action!) and has a great premise to back it up. I'm hoping that MS pulls their finger out and promotes this heavily post E3. You can expect a demo by the end of this month and we all hope a significant TV and print campaign - the game really has a lot of mainstream commercial potential that as yet appears unsupported and instead solely focused on the hardcore media.

[FreedomReign]

AC was a tremendous game. Unrivaled in many, many ways. Although some of the tasks could be tedious, at no time did you HAVE to complete these tasks ad nauseum.

I am very concerned with the state of the industry, when FUN is not the end goal of the game (except for the Wii), where elitism is encouraged, and hype and scores are bought, don't even get me started on the fanboy garbage which is spewed every which way.

In this day and age of Gamefly there is no reason not to at least rent before vomitting an opinion on a forum.

I can't even hazard a guess as to how many AAA titles I have collecting dust on my shelves, and how many A titles regularly make the rounds in my PS3, and 360.

Anyway back to Crackdown.

[MK_Red]

Agreed ry-guy though to me AC is more of a 9/10. I just love running in it's beautiful words and those leap of faiths indeed never got old.

Thanks Superfragilistic. Superb point about AC vs TH. They definitly need the tutorial or that virtual combat practice mode. As for score, I think it won't get anything more than 70. Too many negative previews on different sites means to many negative review. AC didn't have such previews.
As for PC / loot fans, I think there is a problem here. Most 360 gamers are not used to loot huntings of WOW or Diablo.
Hopefully the game will sell enough and we can see the whole story / trilogy.

FreedomReign, OMG, couldn't agree any more and I love Crackdown too. AC was indeed aboud fun of the freerunning and less about missions and other stuff and in that regard, it was PERFECT. I love both games to death but AC is my fave :)

[Spike47]

because you think Too Human is awesome doesn't mean others don't have the right to dislike the game.

Too Human looks like it will be fun. It might be great or just good enough.

[MK_Red]

Agreed but the problem is that many people are simply HATING this game based on some previews. Even from the worst view, the game has average to ok graphics and gameplay and gets so much hate as if it's Hour of Victory 2 or a 50 Cent game...

Previewers are also pretty harsh. How come crappy games like Turning Point: Fall of Liberty gets decent previews but some of the previews for Too Human are like super negative reviews? Like or dislike is a personal thing but I have a strong feeling that some people WANT to hate Too Human. If you go into a movie theatre wanting to hate a film, you'll end up hating it no matter how good or bad it really is.

[dachiefsman]

Yea you can have an opinion, but most people actually play the game before flaming it. I thought HAZE looked good actually until I played the demo, even at that I still thought that game was reviewed to low.

Some people on this site see one thing posted by some random person and use it as law. Even if I have an opinion I usually try to keep it constructive instead of critical. The world already has to many critics.

[green]

Please read this preview from AnalogueHype and tell me if they have played the game?
http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/...

Isn't it obvious now that some people just want to hate the game?

I am currently tracking the game and i can still dig up one or two other articles on Too Human that are like the one from AnalogueHype.

[dachiefsman]

good point MK. If I don't like something, more often than not I avoid it. bubbles up sir!

[MK_Red]

Thanks dachiefsman. Bubbles for you too. I admit that there have been games that I wanted to hate (Like Turning Point: Fall of Liberty) but they look horrible in previews and vids. So far I haven't seen anything that bad of Too Human.

[QueefyB]

wow another negative too human preview when will they stop

[Omega4]

did u even read it he clearly stated "There is no effin' way in this life or the next Too Human can accurately be gauged a bad game."

Why dont you go play your multiple flop console with Haze, Lair, 2.40, Heavenly Sword and soon Killzone 2 will join that growing list!!!

[predator]

this is what i have been waiting for...an actual big game website previewing the game oh and wait...they love it...no suprise there...can't wait to get this

[Isaac]

He should have also said that "hey, don't demand too much from this product just because they sued Epic", that would have added even more strength to his Damage Control.

Anyway, in my honest opinion, I expected more from this game when I looked at the 1up show. I don't expect the 1up crew to give the game very honest reviews, I do expect them to be just as apologizing as Matt, but anyway, Dyack looked nervous and for several reasons.

1. The game did not look as great as it should CONSIDERING they sued Epic. I would assume they wanted to go beyond what the Unreal Engine allowed, but failed.

2. The animations left a lot to be desired for. I mean, why is it that Baldur, while in Mid Air, is able to cancel his prior animation and start a completely new one for Magic, let alone the fact that the robots stand in the middle of space while he is attacking. That is ridiculous.

3. The game seems very repetitive. Did you look at the attacks? They seem to have very few animations for attacks if indeed the game has variety, but if the game does not have any variety except menu handling, then the game is hopeless.

And for something more positive, while micromanaging might be fun, it should not be the only selling point of your game. Sure, the storyline sounds great, but a great storyline with mediocre gameplay doesn't sell many games (See Haze and Lair). If the online components of the game are decent though, it should get at least a 7 on metacritic, just like Killzone 1.

Edit:

The same answer to: Why would anyone do damage control for anything game related? Fanboyism, emotional connection, personal interests... who knows. I simply pointed out that it *sounds* like damage control, as if he somehow has to apologize for the game. There is no reason to apologize, the game is not flawless. IF anyone wants to apologize, let the developers or whatever, I don't want to read excuses from reviewers, especially from Nintendo fanboys like Matt Cassamassina, and though this game is on Xbox 360, my point is that I don't trust Matt either.

Edit 2:

Why so many disagrees? Why is it that so many want this game to do good? I didn't see so many cheering for Lair or Haze after the huge flops they were revealed to be. I don't care how good this game does, I always wanted this game, it just happens to look disappointing. I am still waiting for the reviews so I might be wrong, I am just expressing my opinion of what I have seen of the game.

[Polluted]

Why would IGN be running damage control for Silicon Knights? On a blog no less?

[Jack Meahoffer]

Because there is a vast underground conspiracy in the gaming industry. Microsoft executives, all gaming media and "the jews" get together several times a year to plot ways to both undermine Sony and support anything Microsoft related. Of course this is damage control.

Come on Polluted get with the program here...

[thenickel]

Now I see what this is all about "Why is it that so many want this game to do good? I didn't see so many cheering for Lair or Haze after the huge flops they were revealed to be." the real question is why do you want this game to do bad? But you just answered yourself when you brought up Lair and haze(hidden agenda). Why on earth are you taking this stuff personal? It's obvious now that you want this game to fail and a shame that your acting this way. If you hate this game and want it to do terrible then I really don't see why you comment on it every related thread.

[Isaac]

Clearly those willing to give the game the BENEFIT of the doubt have it. As I've said countless times before, I really wanted this game, but after what I've seen, I will wait for the reviews instead. However, it does surprise me how a lot of people are saying "Glad it got a good preview" (since most have been terrible), unlike with Alone in the Dark where not as many cared, despite the fact that there was a lot more potential. Why would I defend Alone in the Dark anyway if I had an agenda? The game is multiplatform, and in fact it came out first on 360.

Use your brain next time, guys.

[thenickel]

Thats just it...The other previewers didn't even play the game to give an opinion to begin with. Now I do agree with you on waiting to see how this turns out but calling it terrible sounds a little silly.

[dachiefsman]

fine if you don't like it but if you are going to rant put it in a blog.

[Superfragilistic]

You make some fair arguments from someone who can only judge on what he's seen but hasn't played. However, claiming its damage control is a bit far fetched in my opinion. Too Human is a divisive game and Matt from IGN is just expressing his love for the game as opposed to the hate that others will have (legitimately or otherwise).

But I have to pull you up on one statement. You said,

"I didn't see so many cheering for Lair or Haze after the huge flops they were REVEALED to be."

Exactly! When they were reviewed and gamers got their hands on them, the cheer squad dissolved. What many in the thread are expressing is merely a desire to see the same courtesy extended to Too Human, where it is only judged once it's released and not beforehand. :)

[Jack Meahoffer]

Because it’s multiplatform and pretty much unanimously judged to be a horrible game AFTER it was actually PLAYED. All I heard was praise for that game until people actually played it.

People are saying you have an agenda because you say an independent reviewer IGN is doing damage control for a developer. Why? Why would they care to do any “damage control” unless there were some shenanigans going on? By saying that you’re implying IGN’s reviewer has an agenda other than stating his honest opinion. Are you implying MS paid him to say this?

I know you’re trying to portray a “balanced-but-still-prefer-PS3 -because-its-just-better” image but if you focus all your negativity on 360 exclusives and ZERO to Sony exclusives then you fail.

[juuken]

It could be a hit or miss.
We'll have to see about that.

[Polluted]

Nice to see the game finally getting some good press. I think Dyack was about to blow a gasket.

[belal]

bad game ;)

we have Haze ( still its sell great)

and the bots has this :)

w1i has so many bad games so it dosent matter hehe.

[Bladestar]

except that this is not a bad game and you ignorant can't read... did you(including QueefyB) even noticed the article is saying good thing about the game? And no... you have "we have Haze ( still its sell great) " ... by your comment I don't doubt Haze sold very well...

so, get your facts straights... as much as you Leg humpers want this game to suck in order to make things even between the PS3 and the xbox 360 it's not going to happen...

[incogneato]

why do people keep bringing up "old build at e3 2006" as an excuse for all the hate? everyone hates it because weve seen recent videos and they just plain suck.

[thenickel]

Well at least in this preview the person giving it actually got to playe it. This is a good sign and a day one purchase for me. This guy doesn't even like these types of games so to read it was actually enjoyable to him is great news. For some reason people want to hate this game but I hope it does well regardless. Too human is just one of those games that you have to try for yourself and not rely on a review for.

[mesh1]

this game is looking very promsing i own a ps3 atm but im getting a 360 in a couple of days so i can play fable 2,gears of war 2,infinite discovery,left for dead,banjoo,last remnant,too human this year also with playing mgs4 also this year on my ps3 its good to be a gamer

[thenickel]

I haven't read your history but that was a good comment and I do see how you possibly could be down to one bubble. Anyways great post, bubbles, and glad to see we gamers still exist.

[nycredude]

I have to agree that the vids so far all show this game to have subpar graphics and bad animations. Not much variety in the attack moves.

BTW any else see the vid where Dyack was like "hey have you guys done this before?" right before he broke down the doorway with a melee attack? Classic stuff there! Had me rolling on the floor!

[green]

LOL.That video was funny but give the guy a break.He has been working on the game for along time.I don't mind when devs hype games aslong as you don't dis other games.

Concerning the graphics and animation.Yes sometimes the graphics are not good but in some places they are brilliant but to me it's acceptable.

And also my best RPG on the xbox was KOTOR2 and it had some of the worst graphics,framerate and certainly the stiffest animation that i saw last gen, but that game was still stellar.

All i say is that lets just wait till the game drops before pissing all over it.I believe it deserves a chance.

[SIX]

I'm really hoping this game turns out well. I love the concepts put forth. My wish is only to see those concepts work well.

[titntin]

I'm gonna get this and enjoy it I'm sure.
BUT the biggest concern to me is the paltry 10 hour play time thats been pretty much confirmed by all those who have played it. Thats 10 hours, inclusive of all the cutscenes that you can't skip. For this type of game, thats really, really, really short, and a real shame. I love trawling through dungeons for hours on end leveling up and collecting treasure, but the amount of time spent doing it is part of the appeal, and it sounds like this game finished just as your starting to get into it. I can't think of single game of this style thats less than 20 hours play time, never mind 10.

In all other respects I'm happy enough to wait and see - the graphics look good enough, I'm sure I'll 'dig' the story, and the game mechanics really do sound like an updated diablo, so they'll be deep enough for a game of this type. But if it really is all over in 10hours, thats a real wasted opportunity and a big dissapointment..

[Pornlord]

I am in total agreement with you. You took the words right out of my mouth.

[thenickel]

Yeah that does seem kind of short but maybe they will put out some downloadable content shortly after release. Also the multiplayer will add loads of replay value so I'm looking forward to this one.

[Superfragilistic]

As I said somewhere above, the story is short but the experience is not. If you rush through it you'll be done in 10-12hrs, but just like Diablo it's the heavy replay value that will see that playtime skyrocket!

If you dig the gameplay, which is very much a more sophisticated version of Diablo's click-click, you'll pour several dozen hours into this one. :)

[ironcreed]

"I get the feeling some people actually want to hate it. But I really don't think the hate is warranted. There is no effin' way in this life or the next Too Human can accurately be gauged a bad game. It's just not. Period. "----That says it all right there, folks. And this statement has been my estimation of all the unwarranted troll hate as well.

This game is going to shock all of the haters who have just blindly jumped on the hate bandwagon when it releases and is actually a good game....a damn good game in my opinion. All of this internet hate is nothing but a troll bandwagon with a snowball effect. Will it be GOTY material? I doubt it, but will it be a solid, satisfying game that will make an impact on it's own merit and will have a following similar to a game like Champions of Norrath or even Baldur's Gate? More than likely.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I was pleased to see this preview/blog impressions from someone who actually played it get approved unlike the absolute trash article from "AnalogHype" earlier that basically trashed the game even though the guy hadn't even played it and was strictly basing his "trashing" off of a couple of early preview build articles. He made it sound as though it was fact and seemed to have an axe to grind against MS and/or SK.

Either way...I very much enjoyed the read on this article, especially coming from a non-RPG fan. It was a refreshing take. I have my pre-order in for this game...and I have no doubts that I will enjoy it.

[ThaGeNeCySt]

Did you actually read the article? That rant was based on them cutting down the co-op from 4 players to 2 and the game length being 10-12 hours. There was no trashing on anything besides those 2 points... Nothing was said about the graphics, the animations, the camera, the customizations (which I believe praise was given for), nor the story. Come to think of it, SK was praised for their good storytelling as well as their good track record of games. The rant was based on 2 points that u don't have to actually have played the game to have an opinion on. Had he trashed the gameplay itself, or anything dealing with the combat or enemies, then you'd have a point.

[FreedomReign]

You make a valid point; however 12 hours is pretty damn close to the average this gen, and speaks to a possible proble with the entire direction the industry is taking now.

Ever inflating budgets which deliver very limited gameplay.

[slugg]

That for all the commentary I've read about this game by people who have played it (some people who claim to have played it I'm fairly certain haven't, one person said your upgrades don't show up on your character's model, which is pretty obviously false), this seems to be the most "balanced" take on the game. In other places I see people hacking on it, expecting more from a game that has been in production for "10 years" which is such BS, the game has NOT been in continual development for that whole time, and with the problems they had with Epic, they had to write their own game engine code from scratch in the middle. I suppose that this games polarizing effect on gamers will carry through until review time when the game is release, because some people are incapable of judging this game on what it IS, not on what they WANT it to be. The thing that really gets me is PS3 fanboys hacking on the game because it is 360 exclusive (jealousy?) and people who have never played it offering sweeping condemnations of it. Just like any game, Too Human will not be for every gamer. I personally hate Metal Gear Solid, even though MGS4 got great reviews and lots of my friends like it, I will never play it-- it's just not my kind of game. Too Human will be out soon-- let the people who want to buy it, buy it, and those who think it is too short, doesn't look as good as it should, etc., play something else (its not like there isn't a lot of great games out there...)

P.S. I predict a downloadable demo for Too Human during E3. That might clear some stuff up for a few people, but this hardly seems the type of game a demo could do justice....

[power of Green]

You also have to keep in mind the release date has alot to do with *some* media and Sony fanboy hate towards this title.

There is a couple of little reasons this game is abnormally hated/on by PS3 fanboys too:

*Too Human is actually the type of game they would like; it is a PlayStation type game and they don't have it(Story driven adventure with simple/fun unique gameplay).

*For some reason they see it being simular to GOW and are offended for either a weak attempt at coping(in there minds) or the imaginary threat it posses.

There are media outlets that use this title's history to garner hits to their sites and reader to their Mags(mostly tabloid quality media have talked smack! the defacto media have said good things about this TH for the most part) .

[belal]

bot heh ?

i dont even need to reply to you :)

FACE IT, this game = FLOP

[Xi]

But I don't doubt that the game will have it's share of problems. But i'm still going to love the game because the more i hear about the title the more it sounds like diablo. I'll miss the four player co-op but who knows, they can always patch it, and maybe they can put in some form of arena.

Either way, knowing silicon knights the story will be amazing and hopefully they can start work on a sequel to eternal darkness.

[Covenant]

I'm now cautiously optimistic...maybe this won't be a disaster.

It's still too early to tell, though...I think once we have the game we'll be able to pass accurate judgment.

[mariusmal]

there are games that ppl want to hate. assassins creed being one of them, i bought it and loved it. i guess that ppl want their gta 9328492384 Or their madden 2055 PN (post nuclear)