CryEngine Makes Xbox One eSRAM Easier To Handle, Kingdom Come Deliverance Initial Aim Is 900p/30fps

“We need some smaller targets first,” says Warhorse Studios’ Jiří Rýdl.

[yarbie1000]

"Having said that, will the developers have a better chances of hitting 1080p/60fps on the PS4 than the Xbox One?
“We need some smaller targets first (smiles). Let’s create a working build with at least 900p/30fps, then we can tweak it to 1080p/30fps and maybe even more,” Warhorse Studios’ Jiří Rýdl said"

[GameNameFame]

It is problematic that 1080p 30 fps is not targeted from get go still.

Devs are clearly not confident with 1080p still. Additionally, it was lack of gpu powers that devs are also having problems on 1080p . That much was already confirmed.

[decrypt]

In their defense most console gamers dont have a clue what resolution is. In fact most of them think PS3 and Xbox 360 managed 1080p lol. They know 1080p because of all the blantant adverts shoved down their throats by the TV industry and console makers.

They absolutely have no clue what frame rate is.

1080p CAPABLE a term that was blatantly abused by console makers last gen specially Sony with all the shit spewed about the Cell lol.

After a decade of failures with last gen consoles, the current gen will be more of them same. 1080p a promise in the failing after 2 decades of trying. Console gamers might finally see 1080p gaming if there ever is another gen of consoles. Meanwhile PC gamers have been playing at 1080p or equivalent resolutions since the 2000's.

[Ripsta7th]

Decrypt- We are in the year 2015 , if someone doesnt know what something im pretty sure they google it
Most people know about 1080p its been out for years! First consumer-grade LCD computer monitors were released around 1997, but they were mostly 5:4 and 4:3, and still very rare. It wasn't until 2004 that 16:10 came along, with 1280x800, 1680x1050 and 1920x1200. 1920x1080 came a year or two AFTER that. First time LCD monitors outsold CRT was in 2007. 2008 was when 1920x1080 began to reach mainstream TVs and monitors.

[GameNameFame]

Decrypt and xbox fans.

Please quit this damage control.

1080p clearly better with sharper image. Especially if you have big screen.And ps4 is not failing 1080p it already is doing it for 99 percent of the games,

Are you serious telling us people are buying 1080p tv cause they can't tell the difference.

Are you seriously saying people care about high res picture or high res phone screen cause they can't tell?

Quit this desperate straw grap. It is jus getting sad and pathetic.

[greatmatt30]

this gen should be hitting 1080p 60fps #PCMASTERRACE

@GameNameFame Their is so many variables to determine resolution, textures FPS, AI, ECT a game could look AMAZING but run at 720p because the textures are so hardware intensive. On top of that i have a 1080p TV but i cant tell the difference between 720p and 1080p because i sit so far away form it if you sit 9inchs away from your screen like you usually do with a PC resolution becomes way more important. on top of that 900-1080 their is not that big of a difference unless your gaming a on a 4k monitor and have to do some serious downgrading.

[GameNameFame]

@matt

Your PC screen can be 15 to 20 inch. Your tv Ivan be 40 to 60 inch.

Also, you do realize all those additional things you mentioned will be better with consoles with stronger hardware. You do know that right? It looks better if it does all that and still does 1080p.

And are you seriously saying people just bought 1080p tv for no reason? Even at screens literally 10 times bigger than PC?

Are you serious or just that desperate.

[greatmatt30]

@GameNameFame well your PC screen can be 40-60in to but yeah #Consolepeasant

yeah i realize an idiot could realize that. i would rather have my game run at 720P 60fps and have amazing textures then 1080p and look like Vaseline was smeared on the screen. at can easily run half life 2 at 4k on my PC but that doesn't make it look better then shadow or mordor.

[UKmilitia]

agree.

@decrypt resolution does matter if your on a big screen.
so just because u dont notice ,doesnt mean others dont.

[clouds5]

Dude my PC screen (when I'm gaming) is 42". Also the screen is not even in the same room as my tower :) and it's in front of a couch.

Btw I find it funny that sony has made the perfect controller for a gaming PC with ms windows while the new ms xb1 controller doesn't even connect wireless to a PC. It's fail on so many lvls and I guess ms just does t need my money.

[GameNameFame]

@weakmatt

Lol are you that desperate?

You are the one pointed out that you supposedly don't notice resolution on tv that is10 times bigger. And people bought 1080p tv for no reason.

Sounds like you are the real peasant. Hahahaha.

And ps4 always have same or better graphics setting at higher res compared to Xbox one.

Your arguments getting quite pathetic. Love the damage control though. Just hilarious seeing you contradict your self.

[NuggetsOfGod]

MS has some great engineers.

They could have gears 3 run on a poptart I bet.

[FullmetalRoyale]

They already did that.

[larrysdirtydrawss]

since when??? epic isn't a xbox dev.... maybe the forza 5 team can do it,thats if you like npcs to look like cardboard with plastic buildings

[fr0sty]

"Cryengine makes ESRAM easier to handle."

*Still at same resolution/framerate.*

Basically means any gains were keeping the game from being 720p.

[spacedelete]

dycrypt most gamers know what frame rate is. even casuals know what it is and call it slowdown or lag as my FIFA only players call it. stop assuming because its ignorant. resolution is pointless but frame rate is as important as the gameplay itself. anyone saying theres no difference between 60 fps and 22 fps * because so called 30 fps games never hold the frame rate steady * is either lying, stupid or ignorant or all three.

[d3nworth1]

You can ignore decrypt. He's a PC troll that goes around n4g spreading lies and misinformation about consoles and people who game on them.

[3-4-5]

* Would focusing on art style and less polygons equate to a smoother game at 1080p/60FPS ?

If so, I'm open to scaling back the complexity of the graphics, and having an appealing art style mixed with smooth gameplay & good lighting.

[christocolus]

I guess this is good news for those working with cryengine. According to a recent article it seems the just released december sdk update is also reducing the difficulties associated with the esram. Great

[Foehammer]

Continuous improvement is definitely the name of the game.

Great monthly updates and improved developer tools

One only has to look at the launch titles of any console and compare them to the games on the same console years later to see the evolution.

I think were getting to a point of diminishing returns though, as ppl pause games and stand inches from the screen to try and discern any differences.

[Saijahn]

@Foehammer, you need more bubbles my man. The first year of this gen has been a resolution-fest and when that is no longer a problem maybe we can just focus on games again.

[maniacmayhem]

I completely agree with both of you.

It was pretty obvious that the Xbox One had the steeper learning curve but just like the cell processor all that was needed was time.

As the resolution war comes to a close, it'll be interesting to see what the next big hoopla will be.

As you said, hopefully it will return to be about games and gameplay.

[strangeaeon]

I am happy about the improvements, but I find myself caring less and less about this and more about the finished product. Is it fun? Does it look pretty? Is it animated well? If so then I will spend money on it.

[TheGreatGamer]

Fair to say not everyone cares about resolution but for me, anything above 900p is fine. I sit pretty close to my tv so 720p games look blurry pretty close so always happy to get above that

[lfc_4eva]

Sit further back then. Hehehe.

[Godmars290]

Thing is two out of the three concerns you just voiced, appearance and animation, are about graphics.

[strangeaeon]

No shit, hence "finished product". My point was we have become too granular in our scrutiny.

[Illusive_Man]

GamingBolt is obsessed with ESRAM. In the last few months, the ESRAM has become very easy to use and it is going along just great with MSs roadmap. I believe we are currently in stage 3. Also this game isn't going to be 1080p/60 on PS4. PS4 has shown its just not strong enough to routinely handle that graphical output without sacrifices.

[DoubleM70]

Don't you think it's kind of funny that yesterday ESRAM got praised in the SDK. Now another articles comes out and try to take swipes at the Xbox. Do you see a ton of 1080P 60fps running on either one?

"The power difference between the PS4 and Xbox One, although narrowing down, is pretty apparent at the moment and Warhorse Studios’ upcoming role playing game Kingdom Come Deliverance seems to be a pretty resource intensive game. Having said that, will the developers have a better chances of hitting 1080p/60fps on the PS4 than the Xbox"

[Masterchief_thegoat]

Looking foward to dx12, window 10, updates,& games.2015 will be fun

[BC_Master_Haze]

Same here, I'm interested to see how DX12 will affect both consoles and PC. Although I don't own an Xbox One I kind of feel like 1080p isn't what they should be going for but instead 60fps, hopefully soon they'll be able to get both! :)

[NuggetsOfGod]

If both consoles could run games 900p 60fps I wouldn't complain much.

These consoles are not next-gen @ all.

900 or 1080 and still only 30fps?

Even planetside 2 is 800 players less than pc.

Yes pc is more powerful but planetside came out 2012 lol.

And thats the most "powerful" console u can get. Smh..

People waiting from 2005 to potentially 2021 for 60fps standard are waiting 16 years lol

Insane.. its 2015 for buddah sake.
1080 30fps is poor. Cant even max out my 60hz tv from 2010.

I like console games but 1440p 60fps is worth the extra money I spent to get it.
I feel up to date lol

[nitus10]

DX12 is a Microsoft suite of API's for Microsoft's operating system which is now based on "Windows NT". These libraries or API's as they are more popularly known will not work on the PS4 which runs an operating system called Orbis OS which is based on freeBSD which in turn uses the OpenGL graphics libraries.

The only way I could see DX12 impacting the PS4 is it may put greater emphasis of improving graphics libraries for the PS4.

[BC_Master_Haze]

Should have clarified, console*. I know PS4 will not be impacted by DX11 :P I have a PS4 and after getting myself a gaming PC boxing day I see that there is very little that is next gen about the consoles. Not that their pricing isn't justified, I'm still very happy with my PS4.

[reaperofsouls]

just shows how far xbone hardware is behind ps4 as devs are now mearly aiming for 900p30fps on games that ps4 could easily monster at 1080p

[SilentNegotiator]

"easily....monster lol...at 1080p" is a major stretch, even considering that ~90% of Ps4 games are 1080p ( http://www.ign.com/wikis/xb... ) and ~50% on Xbox One. It depends entirely on what they plan to create. Plenty of games are 1080p on both.

[MeliMel]

I like how you think PS4 can easliy handle 1080p/60fps. Tell me then, are all PS4 games 1080p/60fps?

[SilentNegotiator]

Where did he say 60fps?

[jrshankill]

PS4 could easily monster at 1080p??

"Easily" would suggest that all developers have "easily" gained 1080p on all PS4 games. Which is very far from the truth.

[t-hall785]

I remember when journalists talked about how FUN games were...

[SilentNegotiator]

Because them discussing technically aspects of 1 year old systems in some articles means that they aren't. /s

[quenomamen]

I remember when Journalists had integrity and not low life's with open hands.

[snookiegamer]

Good news!! Hopefully won't be long until other devs get up to speed and get Xbox efficient....

@WiiUMasterRace

What's your issues?? There was totally no need to blatantly troll on PS4 with that CPU>GPU. Thought this article was about esRAM???

>That's just DUMB dood ;/

[MeliMel]

Lol...hows he trolling PS4? The question was asked whether it was easier to get said resolution and framerate on PS4 than on Xbox. So no he was not trolling.

[traumadisaster]

I can't stand not having 1080p 60 fps consoles.

Since we can't get that on current gen consistently it would be nice if a new console was released that was powerful enough to mandate 1080p/60fps, and claim 4k for those with the sets.

But no one has the balls to do that, especially ninty.

[SaveFerris]

I'm really interested in the game but I hope they are concentrating on making the PC version as good as it can be, before porting it. Does anyone know if it will be releasing on PC and consoles at the same time?

[Tedakin]

Dying Light hitting 1080p surprised me. Graphics look terrific. 900p is fine, 720p eeeehhhh.

[TheDrunkenJester]

Except it will have horrible frame rate issues just like dead island and glitches beyond belief. I will never play another one of their games.... blah!

[kingbain90]

Good, this dev is smart. Target 900p 30fps and build the best game you can. If you have room after it's done up it to 1080p 60fps. Too many have had boring content do to devs aiming for 1080p 60fps which is highly overrated.

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

PC trolls are out in force today.

[windblowsagain]

@decrypt.

Pc's have been getting high rez, because it's YOUR CHOICE what rez you select.

You get to choose what settings permit you to handle 1080p or above.

You say it like it's 1080p and above for all regardless of GPU.

XB1 has a much lower powered GPU then PS4.

Both have an 8core cpu with low ghz due to heat in a small box/cost.

I'll also say it another way.

PS3/360 Gamers wanted PC shaders/textures at the high rez that a highend pc can offer. That of course is not possible.

But 60FPS 1080P were possible on 360/PS3, if you dropped fx, texture throughput in area's.

As for this gen.

60fps has already been done on both system's. But it depends on what fidelity your aiming for.

Take Driveclub - Top end graphics @ 45fps Locked at 30fps.

The same goes for many titles locked at 30fps.

One of the best looking titles out on PS4 is Dragon age inquisition, Frostbite has also been improved in the game.

[All_Consoles]

I feel bad for anyone not playing this game on pc

[DougLord]

Resolution DOESN'T MATTER. You cant see the difference between 900p and 1080p on the typical (42"-46") tv, from the typical sitting distance (10 feet). I've got a very high end 50" Samsung Plasma in my office that I sit 6 feet from - and you can't tell the difference! Go look on CNET where Katz will swear all day long you cant tell the difference between 1080p and 4k from 10 feet on a 65" TV.

Look at The Order. Its 800p. Those black bars drop almost 300 lines of resolution. And people say its the best looking game of all time. Of course, being on rails and QTE/Cutscene heavy frees up a SHITTON of horsepower for rendering.

[DigitalRaptor]

Look at armchair expert businessman Doug Lord, acting like he knows s**t about rendering. The same guy that thought that The Order: 1886 didn't have a plot (LOL), and that Bloodborne was a Dark Souls rip off (LOL). And you expect people to trust your analysis of resolution vs. sitting distance after that? You're a joke.

Tell PC gamers that resolution doesn't matter, and you'll be laughed out of the conversation every day, because you would deserve to be laughed out. If you're a casual gamer, then maybe you can't tell the difference, but if you're a seasoned gamer, then not knowing the difference is simply a matter of ignorance. You play games with enough variable resolutions and you learn to know the differences. This is why PC gamers are always laughing at console gamers for making stupid statements like yours.

Tell home media enthusiasts that their 1080p Blu-ray movies are actually 800p, and you'll be laughed out of the conversation because you would deserve to be laughed out, like the s**t stirrer that you are. Sorry Dougie lad: http://tay.kotaku.com/why-t...

I'd love to see you sit down for a conversation with Andrea Pessino and then watch him crumple in laughter at your feeble technical analysis of his game, whilst you're going red wondering why everyone else is laughing at you.

[Ravenor]

What doug is missing is that it's a game rendered at 1920*800 but the black bars create the same pixel density as a full 1920*1080 image. It's simple but I can see why some people would seize onto the number, rather than what was actually going on.

Resolution and Screen size also matter a great deal, the differences in image quality from resolution to resolution are always apparent. Screen size and sitting distance only exacerbate the discrepancy or negate it.

Digital Raptor, why are you so angry? Did you dad get drunk and beat you again last night? There there, let's go be condescending to people on the internet that always cheers you up.

[DigitalRaptor]

@ Ravenor

Just because my replies sound stern doesn't mean I'm angry when typing them. Sometimes people annoy me, but a lot of the time I'm just very thorough in the points I make, that a good wall of text with logic, just beats angry keyboard bashing i.e. DougLord's average comments. In fact when it comes to him sometimes I'm just laughing at the repeated stupidity, and it takes a while to process my response.

My dad isn't a drunk but thanks for caring enough to enquire. Sometimes people deserve a condescending tone, when they are outright trolls like our friend here. Sometimes people deserve a condescending tone when they claim that The Order: 1886 didn't have a plot, and that Bloodborne is a Dark Souls rip off.

Re: your thoughts on the technical details are spot on. The pixel density of The Order is the same as any other game that renders each frame in 1080p.

[Ashlen]

Gamingbolt articles are always hilarious.

It's always something like "Microsoft adds extra key to keyboard, games now over 9000 times easier to make!"

lol

[ironmonkey]

900 is ok, sometimes. 1080p is a must and thats why 99% of ps4 games are.

[bneals]

I would rather developers focus on delivering new experiences than focus on 1080p. I love graphics, but I have played amazing games that didn't run at 1080p and shitty games that did run at 1080p. 1080p does not make a bad game good.

[slappy508]

900p is okay if the game runs at 60 frames, looks like this one is going to be played on my pc

[Ps4andxb1]

And we are still waiting for one triple a exclusive on the ps4 at 1080p 60fps.

There aren't any.

[Ravenor]

Isn't the SP to Killzone 1080p 60fps? The mp was 30? Or is it the other way around? I don't care to look, google is hard.

[PudgeyBurrito]

Failures? Look at any top 50 list and you bet your ass most those games are console games, At the end of the day you can push as many pixels as you want with a pc but time and time again exclusives from consoles will always trump as proven through out review scores in history.. Hell, you still don't even have GTA.. I played that over a year and a half ago in my ps3.. Master race lol. laughable.