Ubisoft’s reason to downgrade PS4 version of Assassin’s Creed is quite genius

PS4Daily: "Ubisoft’s wanting to “avoid all debates and stuff” completely backfired — we’re talking more about Assassin's Creed Unity than ever before."

[CerealKiller]

I don't get how having people cancel their pre-orders and influencing negative views towards the game and Ubisoft is good PR, this theory makes no sense.

[Death]

I don't get how people still say the game was downgraded. Ubi simply said the AI was taking more resources than they anticipated so they locked both versions at 900p and 30fps. They never said they downgraded the PS4 version. It's the fans that assume anything done on the Xbox One can be better on the PS4.

[Catoplepas]

It's not an assumption, it's a stone cold fact. You can deny the reality of the situation all you wish, but the PS4 is, incrementally or not, a more powerful machine.

[Neonridr]

@Catoplepas - so if a game is 1080p on the Xbox One in the future, is the PS4 version being held back too?

From the sounds of it, every game that ever comes out has to be a higher resolution on the PS4 otherwise the game was gimped.

[Death]

The PS4 can be more powerful and still not hit 1080p. From what we have seen the quality of Unity is very high with much more detailed textures and from what Ubi is saying a much more advanced AI from NPC's. Instead of looking at Unity as being a true next gen game taxing both systems, fans are more concerned the PS4 version isn't "superior" and feel it's being downgraded since the notion of an Xbox One game being the same is offensive for some reason.

[CerealKiller]

I think the frustration is because they said that they locked the two version at the same specs to avoid the debates.

[DragonbornZ]

True. 900 on x1 doesn't automatically mean Ps4 should be able to hit a stable 1080p. It just doesn't work like that. People are too focused on res and framerate. Perhaps the PS4 version will have better textures, shadows, AA, etc.

@Catoplepas
They specifically said NPC and A.I intensive; CPU bottlenecks.(X1 & PS4 CPU are the same, but X1 is clocked a bit higher) The PS4s stronger GPU isn't the main focus here. And before anyone says that resolution is solely GPU bound, for an integrated GPU like the one in the PS4 that is not the case. A GPU bound task like resolution could indeed be affected by stress put onto the CPU (Unity is supposedly really CPU intensive) It's just a fact of the hardware.

Not trying to bash or anything, but this is reportedly not a GPU problem. They've said that over and over.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Of course they didn't say it.

[uth11]

Well based on the facts that whenever there's a resolution disparity between the two, it has always been in the PS4's favor
and there is no other sub-1080p game that runs at the same resolution on both systems.

It's a pretty safe assumption that the PS4 was the one getting downgraded here..

[gootimes]

It just weird to me that they would state that the reason for parity was to keep people from arguing. They were quoted saying that and people are still arguing over the reason for parity.

If PS4's GPU can push for more assets in other areas then let it! We already know that the PS4's CPU was found to function better when tests were done and it can be overclocked greatly. The PS4 should be able to push for more, it's just ridiculous to debate otherwise.

This just seems crazy to me. Companies weren't so kind to Sony or helpful last gen, they didn't want to stop debates last gen. In fact many Devs sided with fanboys, Valve was one of them in the early years bashing Sony. So now that it's micro it's all good.

[KarmaV12]

The game was never downgraded, they strictly stated they were aiming for 900p - 30fps all along. It would have to be 1080p in the first place to be "Downgraded".

[u4one]

@Catoplepas:

It's not an assumption. It's what Ubisoft came out and said. We can't really call it a fact because I'm pretty sure none of us were there in the studio while these decisions were being made. Whether its actually true or not we may never know, but I guess thats the point I'm attempting to make.

Yes it is true that the PS4 is a more powerful machine, but its not hugely more powerful and has its own limitations and bottlenecks just as the Xbox One does. Suckerpunch struggled with CPU usage when developing Infamous Second Son for example. There are post mortem articles they released talking about it.

Also, if you recall -Watchdogs was only at 1080p on PS4 and even less on Xbox One even without this parity nonsense they've created this round.

If the they can achieve 1080p on the PS4 then by all means they should but from the multiple sources I've read, it seems to have been in fact a technical issue. This site really seems to not want to accept that. Personally for me Ubisoft is screwing up left and right, regardless.

[ziggurcat]

@death:

no, they said that *one* of the systems was giving them trouble, so they locked *both* to avoid "debates and stuff."

[uth11]

@KarmaV12-

They previously said they were targeting 1080p/60fps on both systems:

http://gamingbolt.com/assas...

[travisbitter]

.... *sigh*. Just please explain what does this mean: "We decided to lock them at the same specs to avoid all the debates and stuff," senior producer Vincent Pontbriand

I don't care... and I also didn't care when the X360 got better multiplats (meant by visuals)... despite the fact that the PS3 could handle the same game with the same visuals, but with higher effort invested from the dev team. I didn't care, because I bought the PS for it's exclusive content.

However... everyone in it's right mind would say that LOCKING DOWN FOR PARITY, for the sake of "AVOIDING DEBATES" is a wrong, very very wrong decision, and gives a bad feeling when you purchase such dev's games in the future. I think UBI "simply said" this AI stuff to put out the fire, that already became a wildfire...

But.. The problem is not with the owners of either of consoles... but with the fact that a development team can say such words without any disgrace...

(P.S.: I'm a PS fan, but one of my most anticipated game is Quantum Break, because I think Remedy is one of the most talented dev-group out there today... I just tell this to emphasize that I always buy consoles based on their exclusives!)

@CerealKiller - You perfectly summarized my opinion, with one simple sentence. Cheers!

[Army_of_Darkness]

People are talking about ac:unity in a bad(I don't give a crap about it no more) type of way, so I don't see how this is genius?! Lol! Hell, I don't even read new detailed articles about the features and Gameplay of it either...

[Manic2014]

@uth11
Targeting mean's they aim to get 1080p 60fps, They never reached the aim so they gave up and called it quits at 900p 30fps. So yes it's not a downgrade, purely just lack of effort.

[CaptainObvious878]

I don't get how people still say the game WASN'T downgraded.

Whatever the xbone can do the PS4 can do plus more.

That's just the simple truth of the matter.

I didn't buy a PS4 to play the xbone version of games.

[Death]

"Whatever the xbone can do the PS4 can do plus more"

The lack of options/features and network stability say otherwise. There is quite a bit the PS4 can't do due to it's much simpler OS and the way the system was designed around the GPU instead of the CPU. Xbox One's layers OS's are what enable many of the functions like Snap and the party/chat system which runs alongside the apps/games.

The PS4 is capable of prettier graphics, not smarter games. Look at Drive Clubs AI compared to Forza's AI for the latest example.

[GUTZnPAPERCUTZ]

Catoplepas You are correct about the GPU and RAM being more powerful, but this is a CPU issue, which it's not and could very well be the other way around? We know the X1 and PS4 have the EXACT SAME CPU on the APU, but we don't know the PS4's clock speed except that it was mentioned when released that was 1.6ghz but an indie dev said it was higher? I don't know why all you Sony fanboys are being so defensive on this matter when it has nothing to do with the hardware of your console that are actually more powerful?

[n4rc]

It isn't stone cold fact...

Gddr5 is high latency memory used for graphics... Ddr3 would be better for CPU related stuff.. We all knew this coming into this gen. Especially since both use nearly identical 8 core amd jaguar cpus with one at 1.75ghz and ps4s at 1.6ghz..

Yet everyone just wants to believe blindly that the hold up couldn't possibly be on their side..

Nobody ever had an issue blaming esram or sdks before... Ever think they are playing coy to not upset the ps4 fanboys?

[BG11579]

It's not about getting the 1080p, the subject is another. They are just not making an effort and using its better capabilities of one of the machines to bring the best experience.
Want to see an example, when Diablo 3 Ultimate Evil Edition wasn't using the full capabilities of the Xbone to achieve the 1080p 30fp, how did Xbone's fans reacted? They said that the developing team was lazy and stuff. This was due to the inability of the developing team to use the Xbone capabilities to the best, not a decision. With Ubi it's the opposite, they have the ability to make the game better, yet are refusing to do so, because they want to avoid discussions and stuff.

I won't buy the game not because it's not 1080p, but because Ubi isn't making the effort to bring the best experience to one console.

No to parity. No to lazy developers.

[Father__Merrin]

it's not just resolution I hate when people keep mentioning that, I'm talking overall visual quality should be better on ps4 due to the machine being more capable.

[Ju]

The whole "we are CPU limited" and the AI uses more CPU time holds no merits if we talk resolution and framerate. This has absolutely no impact on fillrate and ROPs, the main reasons for limitation in resolution and frame rate.

UBI themselves said in the very same statement "we could run @ 100fps". Which one is it now?

[Bdub2000]

There is no proof that Ubisoft gimped the PS4 version, I urge someone to present it here if they have it. Simply stating it's a stone cold fact is a fanboy statement. Provide real, tangible evidence. And evidence that the ps4 is more powerful is not evidence of what Ubisoft did. Perhaps 900p and 30fps is all they got the ps4 to do and they're struggling to get the X1 to that level, who knows? Well, you don't know, because ubisoft never made that statement.

Don't be mindless and hit "disagree" just because you own a ps4, use your brain and read what's actually been presented...

#stoptheassumptions

[starchild]

That isn't true. The PS4 definitely IS more powerful than the XB1.

The problem I see here and in all similar articles is that both Sony and Xbox fans are assuming that the game is in fact equal on both consoles. They assume that because there is parity in terms of the resolution and target framerate that the two versions must be the same across the board.

I very highly doubt this is the case. I predict that there will be other graphical differences between the two that explain how the extra performance of the PS4 was used.

People in this community as usual are making huge assumptions and freaking out prematurely and with way too little evidence. But I am confident that what I am saying will turn out to be true.

[Spotie]

It was gonna be 1080, but they've said they locked it to 900.

DOWNGRADE.

I don't get it. You KNOW the PS4 is more powerful. You KNOW clock speed doesn't mean a stronger CPU. You KNOW the graphics are GPU based. You KNOW AI wouldn't affect graphics because of this. You KNOW that anything done on the XB1 can be done better on PS4.

But you come into these articles and say the same LIES again and again.

"Posting lies and spreading disinformation" is supposed to cause you to lose bubbles. I could easily count a dozen such comments over the past few days alone; why have you only been moderated once?

It's undeniable that the PS4 version was downgraded. Given that the PS4 performs better on EVERY multiplat that isn't locked for parity, how in the hell can you sit there and say "There's no downgrade," right after Ubisoft says they locked the game for parity?

What's more, how can you get away with telling lies and NOT ONE MOD take action? How can you be one of half a dozen to do so and face no consequences? I get that they can't catch everybody every time, but it sure does seem like they have the time to catch some people every time.

Just not the ones that need it most, it seems.

[AgentSmithPS4]

@Neonridr
"From the sounds of it, every game that ever comes out has to be a higher resolution on the PS4 otherwise the game was gimped."
No it's just suspicious if it isn't 1080p like the majority of PS4's games. Even if both systems had the same res the PS4 would have better shadows etc since the hardware is better.

Whatever the system they should make each one look its best, but of course they can't spend too much extra time on any one system relative to the others since they're a business.

[ThatOneGuyThere]

as a game programmer, this is BS. AI, while having an impact on FPS, has 0 impact on resolution(unless its the sheer number of AI bots on screen, but in that case, the XB1 would be able to render ~40% less AI bots).

[Revolver_X_]

Since when has AC lifted the goal posts since inception? Has AC been on the graphical forefront and I didnt know? Has AC been the technological leader at any point? Now Death, in all his Xbox wisdom, would have you believe that AC Unity is so advanced compared to all other 3rd party titles, that CPU limits the PS4 version. The one aspect Xbox has an advantage, a very slight one to be honest. I wish Death would quit throwing his fudd around every AC article . Its Ubisoft were talking about. EVERY AC since Brotherhood has been riddled with bugs AND unintelligent AI. Bottomline, AC Unity will release and you'll wonder where this massive CPU usage is happening. It doesnt exist.

[purp13m0nk3y]

My problem with their excuse of being CPU bound on the PS4 is this.

The PS4 is highly capable when it comes to asynchronous GPGPU compute. Being built from the ground up with this in mind. So why isn't this tech being used to alleviate the CPU overheads?

Many devs have stated in the past that AI is the perfect type of calculation to carry out asynchronously on the GPU. Being that AI can be done out of order.

Short answer. Their excuse is BS. They wanted parity. And this was a simple enough excuse to use, as many peoples knowledge of a render pipeline is limited enough that it might fly.

It's just laziness. Why spend money optimising each version when they can just get both to an "acceptable" level and then say....

Hey sorry guys. But that is the best each system can handle. It's just a big coincidence that both versions are at parity.

[Jaqen_Hghar]

Have an immature bubble for not being able to do basic math. PS4 is more powerful in GPU and RAM and CPU is a wash. If the CPU stuff is even then the GPU stuff should be more advanced on PS4. Surely the GPU is used for SOMETHING and that stuff should be better on PS4. It doesn't have to be res, it can be AA, shadows, flames or hairs or how about draw distance? If they don't do something better than that means they're putting MS politics or laziness over making the best possible version on each platform. Sorry it's as simple as that.

[DragonKnight]

Death, you've been successfully refuted a billion times. Do you really need for me, or really anyone else, to continue to do it?

You know that the anonymous spokesperson email is bullsh*t PR speak. The senior producer on the game, who put his name out there, gave you the legitimate reason. Parity.

I can't believe you are naive enough to believe that a CPU process like A.I. will negatively affect a GPU process like resolution. Just stop.

[larrysdirtydrawss]

ppl who have played it already(nic,rev3games) said the ai aint doing anything impressive/different from previous ac games....plus,ps4 has a sizable gpgpu compute,if you offload tasks to just one specialized cu,you can free up a good chunk of resources on the main cpu........theres plenty of room for 1080p

[wsoutlaw87]

" It's the fans that assume anything done on the Xbox One can be better on the PS4" well, It can... It doesnt matter what they are using the power for, the ps4 has more of it. Also locking the res doesnt have much to do with the ai really.

[Death]

@DK,

You'll have to forgive me for trustng the developers the game over members of he N4G community. I agree with part of what you are saying. On a traditional PC, AI won't impact resolution since the CPU is located on the mb and uses a seperate pool of DDR memory. The GPU is also seperate and has it's own GDDR to use. On a PC the GPU allows the CPU to do more with less since they are seperate.

On the Xbox One and PS4 the CPU and GPU are part of the same APU or SoC. They are sharing a common pool of ram with neither setup using the ideal memory for both the CPU and GPU functions. The PS4 is using the GPU to offload CPU functios to make up for GDDR's higher latency and non-linear pipelines. The Xbox One relies on eSram to increase GPU performance that is lost due to the use of DDR. What is done with one side of the chip affects the other.

As far as the billion of times I have been "refuted", you would think one of those times would offer proof instead of dated info from a company trying to sell a service that didn't even publish how the test was perfomed or even the amount of cores tested. Real world applications do not support your position of the PS4 being more than marginally more powerful. My belief is if you can't actually see the differance as an end user, the theoretical numbers and specs are irrelevant.

[Jason_Plays_PC]

@Death, please explain then how one console with a much better gpu has to be the same resolution as the other? its like saying me with my gtx 680 can only run watchdogs at parity with my friends who has the same specs except a gtx 670.. makes no sense? yes i thought so.. I can run it at higher resolution obviously because i have a BETTER GPU....just like the ps4.. Gonna mark you for trolling also as you keep posting stupid comments and its obvious now you're trolling.

[Pogmathoin]

Osama bin laden could say PS4 is great and everyone here will cheer him on. Get over it folks. This is the version Ubi planned on. PS4 version may simply run a lot better, which would turn out to be a good decision to lock res/rate.

[Death]

Jason,

Neither console is your PC. The CPU in the APU is x86 based, but that is where the similarities run out. Both the GPU and CPU are part of a single chip that uses a single memory pool. You aren't running a seperate GPU with it's own memory on either console. These APU's were designed for the tablet market and modified for use in consoles. The CPU's are identical with the Xbox One's running at a 10% higher clock rate which does increase performance contrary to some people are claiming. The GPU's are both part of the same family, but the PS4 does use a stronger one. As far as spec go, it is pretty much like comparing the 7700 series to the 7800 series. We both know the 7800 is pretty close to the performance of a pair of 7700 running in SLI. As nice as that sounds, it doesn't necessarily work that way when part of an APU. Both have the potential to run better than a PC since they are part of a single chip and aren't communicating over the systems bus where most PC's bottleneck. The CPU is the weak point in both consoles. Sony's GDDR solution is much simpler, but the CPU only has access to higher latency ram which is why the GPU needs to perform some of the CPU's tasks. It's not a bad solution, but it does reduce the real world performance of the GPU since it is doing more than a traditional GPU. The Xbox isn't ideal either like I said above. The lower speed DDR in the Xbox One makes it so the CPU doesn't need to offload tasks to the GPU, but the GPU is accessing lower speed ram which affects performance. The eSram boost the GPU speed, but is more difficult to work with. No one believes the Xbox One solution is faster, but the performance of the two isn't as easy to compare as a couple GPU's for your PC. Real world applications will determine how close the two or how far away they are. To date, nothing is really supporting the PS4 as being as powerful as fans claim. If anything over the past year we have seen Microsoft helping devs achieve better results than it had at launch with the Xbox One's more complex architecture. The disparity is decreasing as far as visual specs go.

[n1kki6]

The sad part, if true, is that developers are now catering to the trolls on the internet, now screwing over normal people that just want to play games.

If they were different resolutions, PS4 trolls would go bonkers and rip the XB1, XB1 owners would rip the dev.

They lock the resolution. and PS4 trolls go bonkers and rip the dev.

Again, here is a novel idea, if a person is so passionite about gaming buy all systems, if you can't afford to stop getting all upset about developer making business decistions.

Second, if resolution and framerate is this uber important thing that will ruin a game for you, you also have the option to game on pc which will usually always look better, guess what you can even still own a console.

[DarXyde]

I hate siding with people on the issue of power and "gimping", but let's be honest with ourselves here: if Xbox One hits 1080p/60fps, so does PlayStation 4. If One hits 1080p/30fps, 4 usually runs unlocked up to 60fps. If One hits sub-1080p/60fps, 4 had a higher resolution, perhaps not always 1080p, but at 60fps.

That all being said, do you honestly believe both consoles have equal output now? Ubisoft is very clearly doing this intentionally.

Do I personally care? No, because I haven't played assassin's creed since Revelations.but I see why people are upset. They can do better. I know it, you know it, we all know it. Let's see what the AI is like and see if their excuses have legs. Maybe we'll both learn something about game development.

EDIT: N1kki6,

While I get what you're saying, technically, a smart business move would be to up the ante of the PlayStation 4 version. Since it's got the largest install base, if games continue to do very well on PS4 and if we had a market takeover by Sony (which, I should say, would be bad) like the PlayStation 2 days, they could focus only on PlayStation 4. Games would run better and development time would be shorter. No, I don't condone that, but I'm pretty sure that would be a pretty sweet scenario for developers to only have to use resources on one version.

[DragonKnight]

@Death: So when you say "trust the developers" you mean trust them after one of them came out and said "yeah, we gimped the PS4 version for parity" and actually has his titled and name stated right? What you actually mean is "I'm going to trust an unnamed spokesperson that sent an email" as opposed to someone who staked his name on his comment right?

And now you're trying to dismiss legitimate proof by saying it's dated? Dated proof is still proof. Tell you what, we'll continue this in the next article that pops up about this, in which you'll continue to fallaciously believe that the PS4's CPU is underpowered. How will we continue it? Well quite obviously you're going to provide me with the PS4's clock speed. I'll be looking forward to it.

[Prototype_79L]

But the powa of tha cloud....

[Sideras]

If that were the case then you don't fucking go out saying it's to avoid "debates and stuff", now granted we know most devs are stupid, but yo be that retarded is quite the feat.

They could've easily gotten away with the reason you just stated, granted it would be a lie.
Why else would you possibly say it's to avoid "debates and stuff"?

They specifically said both versions are locked at 900p to avoid debates and stuff.

[jrshankill]

@ Death

Absolutely correct.

This gen's gamers are a bunch of bitchy resolution whores.

Seriously, cancelling a pre-order over pixels. Pathetic.

[Blueponder]

THIS is the price we have to pay for journalists going into a frenzy over "resolution-gate".

[donthate]

The ironic thing is that the reason for the 900p @ 30fps is limited to the CPU running the AI, and not the GPU.

The GPU in the PS4 is more powerful than the Xbox One, but the CPU on the Xbox One is more powerful than the PS4.

This means in theory that the Xbox One is the downgraded version, not the PS4.

Imagine the outrage if the Xbox One was visually better than the PS4.

[UnHoly_One]

Precisely, Death.

I stopped reading after the first 2 paragraphs sounded like it was written by an N4G fanboy.

[AliTheSnake1]

http://www.dualshockers.com...

Where does it say ,they are downgrading the PS4 version ?

[ZeroX9876]

Well, if 1080p and ultra graphics is a must, buy a PC not a console.

You get great performance for quite cheap with the PS4/X1.

They can push it to 1080p, but textures, view distance and AA will take a huge hit.

[darthv72]

Ubisoft apparently found their balance between visual fidelity and performance. And that came at a sacrifice of res/fps. That does not mean the game is bad now because of it.

Sure last gen there were games that did 1080p/60 but they also had (more/less) half the available assets that more complex games of today use. there is much more being put into things like lighting/shadows, reflections and even the smallest details you would normally not pay attention to.

So Ubi 'could' make the game 1080p/60 but expect to see it as nothing more than a same looking/playing version of black flag instead of trying to push their own efforts into something more enriching.

[travisbitter]

I have a quite powerful PC that I use mainly for work, and games on high/ultra from time-to-time. Still prefer console gaming, SORRY! What is your suggestion in this case? I should just shut my mouth and buy AC:Unity despite I know that it's artificially gimped? Nope... Rather I'll avoid it on PC too.

[Bdub2000]

Well Travis, bitter suits your name well... From your standards, and everyone's standards on this comments section, every time a new game doesn't use 100% of the PS4s power, we should all go on strike and not buy the game.

That will teach the developers...

[travisbitter]

@Bdub2000: Haha, no... I had Skyrim for the PS3, despite I knew that it's the worst version. (It was a gift, but really liked it after the major patch.)

I didn't have any words on what YOU (or any PC gamer including me) should do, with AC:Unity. I told my honest opinion, how I feel with this "locking-down", including my fear that soon, this may be a standard for other games. Telling this to you, as my "standards" that you referred to: my purchase of Project Cars and Star Citizen will be PC only...

P.S.: Nice one on my name, however that's a thing I can not have a stand against, so I'll just ignore that pun. :)

[Jaqen_Hghar]

it's not about the overall performance. PS4 is capable of better performance than X1 and should be taken advantage of. Doesn't even have to be resolution just something to show they're not playing MS's politics of parity instead of making the best possible version on each platform. How would you feel if PC was capped in favor of PS4 having parity with it?

[ChickenOfTheCaveMan]

But then again, Ubi downgraded the PC release to make sure it wasn't too different from the consoles release. Sure, somebody unlocked it but still, if their programmers were not lazy it would not have happened.

[MarkusMcNugen]

@Jaqen_Hghar
Are you a compuer engineer? Are heavy into the Custom PC or Modding scene? Read articles about hardware and architecture advances daily?

I have a feeling, just like the majority of the gamers on this site, that you have no idea what the difference is between an APU and CPU/GPU in a traditional PC. APUs contain both the CPU and GPU on a single die and allow offloading tasks from one to the other if needed. It's suppose to be one of the next big things for a while now, simply because it alleviates a system bottleneck between the CPU and GPU. The integrated GPU can even work in concert with a dedicated GPU to increase graphics performance.

So in the PS4s case, if AI is intensive in AC:Unity then some of the AI processes are most likely offloaded to the GPU which in turn affects resolution and capability.

The Xbox One version most likely can handle the AI better thanks to it's DDR3 and CPU, but the GPU and eSRAM cause a bottleneck on the visual side in comparison.

It's not as black and white as "PS4 is strongerz! It should have higher rezs and effectz."

Each has it's own bottlenecks. Each has it's strengths. The Xbox One has a better CPU/Memory combination whereas the PS4 has a better GPU/Memory combination.

Holy crap! I think I just explained why, if the AI reason is true, the resolution is locked on both consoles better than Ubisoft has.

[randomass171]

They are trying to say that the average gamer who doesn't follow this kind of news on the internet is going to go out and buy it anyway simply because it gets the Assassin's Creed name out there.

[uth11]

There is a theory that there is no such thing as bad coverage, because controversy gets people talking about you and sells products.

[CaptainObvious878]

You can ask MS how they think about that theory concerning their DRM.

[geddesmond]

Yep, sorry Ubisoft, I was sick of AC already and even though I was gonna buy the game around Christmas. After this I wouldn't even waste bandwith downloading a free PS Plus version.

Ubisoft have shown just how crap they are this generations. Watchdogs and the Division downgraded from what we seen previously and now this. Makes me think about buying Far Cry 4 as well. Was gonna buy it after GTA5 Next gen released and I played that to death but now I might put it at the end of my list, right after Dragon Age, Elder Scrools online, Bloodeborne, The Order, The Witcher 3, FF20, RE10, Street Fighter 7, Tekken 9. You get the drift.

Ubisoft us gamers are not dumb. You can only pull the wool over our eyes so many times before we have enough.

[frezhblunts]

The fanboys on here are sickening. Yes because both version are the same doesn't mean one got downgraded. We got some dumb people out there and very good comments with a lot of disagrees. PS4 is strong but it doesn't do miracles.

[KiwiViper85]

People are just saying they're cancelling pre orders, but they're lying.

PS4 owners desperately need something to play this holiday

[kenshiro100]

You're kidding me, right?

[3-4-5]

*Some people need everything to be "perfect" or "the best" for them to even play it or consider it.

They are narrow minded people.

The Game will be just as fun to play regardless or how sharp the pixels are...

[Azzanation]

What they lose on PS4 support they gain on Xbox.

[DeathOfTheFanBoy]

Do any of you realise that we "hard core" gamers are the minority, this game will sell fine if we all boycott it or not. It will be a huge commercial success.

[mmcglasson]

@Death

PS4 can, already does, and will continue to do everything XBone does + more. As for the AI in Drive Club vs AI in Forza that's a matter of programming your AI. This has nothing to do with if the machine can handle it or not. Now here is something that Forza can't do that Drive Club can: have photo realistic graphics due to hardware related issues. Will games on both systems get better looking as time goes on? Yes. Will X1 ever be more powerful than PS4? No. Will game developers use techniques and tricks to make games on both systems look outstanding? Yes. Will X1 ever have a game that will look better than Uncharted? Nope. If they do, then it won't look better than the next iteration of Uncharted.

As far as options go, each system has different options and features. For example; on PS4 I pretty much a full program that allows me to edit gameplay videos I've recorded into a high quality video with many special effects. The only thing I can't really do on PS4 that X1 can is control my cable box. The snap feature is nice, but Sony could easily implement it. It's pretty much already there. I'm able to browse the internet, switch back to my game, just by suspending the application. I can go to the PS store and right back to my game. I can't do that with games. I can't remember if I can do it with Netflix or not (I want to say at this time I can't). However, why would I want to? I'm not going to start watching a movie for 5 minutes and then start playing a game for 10 minutes and then switch back. If I want to check the score of a football game or baseball game I can just unlock my phone or push the input button on my remote and switch to my TV input.

Remember PS3? It had so many more feature than the X360. They weren't all available from the beginning but were deployed in updates. I will say Sony messed up by not including almost all of what the original PS3 could do (mp3 for example), but that will be out in a near future update, as well as a ton of other new features.

[Export]

People talking about cancelling is just a empty threat . I bet you that all who talk about cancelling will get the game still . People talked about cancelling call of duty back in the day when they took modding away . All of my friends got it ?!? I was the only one who didnt lol ... Words are cheap on the net ..

[ChunkyHD]

Because all the Bad DRM, always online PR before the Xbox ones release really helped it shine.

Any publicity isn't good publicity, especially if your a big player in the gaming world.

[Ashlen]

You really think Ubisoft planned this out prior and wanted this bad press?

I honestly remember arguing with people who said literally the exact same thing about Microsofts DRM.

[kenshiro100]

When you say dumb things like 'we wanted to avoid debates', expect backlash. What they said was stupid. Both consoles should have been used to their potential.

[qwerty676]

i'm more interesting in the world we'll be playing in. having a town that feels "alive" with so many AI cant be an easy task.

i'd much rather have better gameplay and a more interactive environment over gimping some stuff just to jump it up to 1080p

[geddesmond]

Except when you can have all you mentioned plus better pix elation but the developers downgrade it because the other consol can handle it.

Then it becomes a problem with those gamers who own the consol it's downgraded on. What can't you understand. No developer downgraded the Xbox 360 version of a game to be the same as the PS3 version because they couldn't understand the PS3 technology properly. How may debates did those gmes create. Heck go o youtube now and type COD PS3 vs X360 ans see all the debates.

This is ubisoft helping MS because they have a marketing deal for the game. What good is all that money MS will pay on advertising for the game when all internet media will destroy that advertising by announcing the PS4 version looks and runs better?

[Evil_Ghosty]

My question is however, had they not been locked in parity would have the PS4 version been 1080p 60FPS anyway? 1080p probably but not 60fps. That said I'm not going to defend their reasoning, just commenting on my opinion that it wouldn't have been 60fps anyway.

I've seen Unity in action with Ubisoft playing it on PS4s at a conference a few weeks ago and the game looked and ran incredible.

[ThisJarContainsTHC]

lol no, just no

[Th3o]

Who cares people will still buy it. Let's all whine about it and still buy the game, that will teach em.

Stop pretending like you guys are outraged, because if you were you would not buy it.

pfft.

[ThisJarContainsTHC]

I'm not buying it. It's a shame too because AC4 was really decent.

[Th3o]

I'm sure you will, even if you do trust me others wont:)

[geddesmond]

Lol can you see the future or something? Some of the people giving out will still buy but you underestimate gamers today. There is still people that wont buy an X1 now because of all the crap they announced two years ago.

My purchase is lost, don't believe me? I still haven't bought another COD since the DLC deal with MS. Thats how long my boycotts last. Don't believe me, PSN ID GEDDESMOND2, see if I have a COD on my trophies since MW2. But but you'd miss out on games for stupid reasons? Yes because my free time is precious and there is so many good games out there you can play. If a publisher shows unfairness then goodbye onto the next.

[gangsta_red]

This whole debacle is further proof what fans will freak out about and cause so much disturbance just to keep the fanboy fuel burning.

There is no doubt that if Ubi would have said nothing and just released the game everyone would have said, the game looks great and would have been asking what the resolution is and waiting for some side by side comparisons. Because no one would be able to tell.

I encourage devs to not even discuss what the resolution is because it's painfully obvious that certain fans will freak out if it's not what they expect, regardless of what the game features.

[IRetrouk]

It was more the way it was said than the actual res, if they had of just said both are locked at such and such and left it at that then they would have been fine, but they said they went for parity so no arguments would arise, which by the way is ridiculous.

[ThisJarContainsTHC]

and pretty much proof of being in microsoft's endless pockets.

[GodGinrai]

I agree, red.

Well..I am still buying it. I got friends that want to play and damn sure wouldnt be able to tell if a HD image is 900P,1080P or anything in between. Im looking forward to AC:Unity, myself for the co op antics. And I cant think of one gamer I know personally ( core or casual) that is not looking forward to this game.

The majority of people that will pick this up...like COD..like fifa..like madden..Dont even care for internet gaming sites of the opinions of people who harbour them. They will get another AC game. This time with co op. And that is enough for them.

Everybody on N4G has friends and family , that fit the COD/AC/Madden/Fifa/NFS type gamer..and be honest. When you talk them about disparity and resolution and Ai and NPCs..their response is, along the lines of "I just want to play the game man..I dont care about that stuff..I dont even know what it means". These are the majority of people who play AC. No amount of complaining from on forums will change that. We been bad mouthing COD for years. That didnt stop it from selling more and more each year. As long as the game itself is good, it will sell. Because its an AC game and because its an AC game with good reviews .Of course I am assuming its a good game..I could be wrong about that, but so far I have enjoyed the AC games.so..yeah.

[Roccetarius]

Ubisoft just keeps digging their hole deeper, just like other publishers in the industry. Thankfully, i'm not supporting their practices.

[Geekman]

Ou act like they shot your dog repeatedly while laughing.

[_LarZen_]

Oh Ubisoft...how you have lost your way.

[jnemesh]

I don't see how some people here read Ubisoft's comments and say "they didn't say they were downgrading". They are obviously ARTIFICIALLY capping the performance of the PS4 version to keep parity with the underpowered Xbox!

Now, to say this is to "avoid arguments" is pretty foolish, as you have a bigger argument now than if you just released each game at whatever maximum resolution and framerate each console could handle. Now, we have a situation, where gamers are feeling that the integrity of Ubisoft's development is in question. Did they do this to "avoid arguments"? Or did they do this because Microsoft paid them to "gimp" the PS4 version?

Regardless of the damage control Ubi's PR department is doing right now, NO answer from them will "fix" this mess. They lost my sale, and probably a LOT of others...if they don't fix this, (by releasing a 1080p version for PS4, no other way!) they will lose out on sales of future titles as well. Simply put, they utterly destroyed any trust that gamers have with Ubisoft...and as Microsoft is learning after their own PR disaster, that takes YEARS to repair. Good luck, Ubisoft...you will need it after this mess!

[turdburgler1080]

They should just set it at 1080p 30fps and give it to the sony crowd. It will be all studdery and perform poorly and then they can say "we told you it wasn't going to work" and patch it down to 900p to shut them up.

[ThisJarContainsTHC]

Isn't it gonna be 30fps regardless of what res?

why would upscaling it to 1080p with the same framerate it would have if 900p make it 'studdery' and perform poorly?

the only reason "it's not going to work" is because Microsoft paid them.

[_FantasmA_]

Ubisoft still making AC games?

[mantis_toboggan_phd]

How is it a downgrade if the other version never existed. Its gonna be a great game people should be happy to play it.

[ThisJarContainsTHC]

Shill 101 right here

[brianunfried]

Great, "The lowest common denominator" thing is happening again. Last generation it was the Xbox 360's DVD drive, now it's the Xbox One's resolution.

[hello12]

The PS4 version probably would look cleaner at 900p, if they use the GPU power. Might even have better shading.

Ubisoft i bet had the game up and running at 1080p on PS4 and did not like the performance of it. People can say what they like on here but the CPU of the PS4 is running slower at 1.6ghz (Confirmed by Sony UK months ago its an official site) its not a myth or made up claim, its real.

And stop posting benchmarking from Gamingbolt with no sourcing. The CPU running at 2ghz get real you guys. Why would Microsoft just go with 1.75ghz then?
Like they're the exact same CPU's that came from AMD. The only reason Microsoft could push the CPU clock up was because of the fan and they didn't go nuts with it for obvious reasons. Its not a huge difference but its there.

That lower clock could be effecting the 30 frames on PS4 with all the AI, 1080p and running at 25 to 26 frames, hows that any good? x box 1 is not the same animal as it was at launch. Just look at how many games have come out since May 2014 at 1080P, even 900p,

[finite]

Bring on the game for PC ... no bullshit like all this crap console fans...

[Psygnosis333]

Like Nvidia vs AMD ?
or Intel vs AMD...there so much debate in PC comunity which card is better for which game ..controversy about why nvidia is performing better ...
PC bad ports,arguing and blaming developers for not putting too much effort in PC version ?

[finite]

what a comparison, thanks

[D-riders]

Well for the simple people I the room it's simple. If the best had been beating the Xbox 1 out. In every game people expect more from the system. That is their blonde Ron how they handled it. They should have never said that we are making the games with parity but that we pushed the psi as hard as we could and we are complacent with what we got.

[1990gamer]

I gusse people want to see 1080p on the Playstation 4 since it should be more
powerful than the Xbox One. The old ps3 console did 720p video gaming and people just don't spent over 550 dollar on new system (cost of internet and game included) and just have 900p vs 720p on old ps3. Just to have 180p better than not have full HD experience of 1080

Not sure if Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 video games reach 720p
Or maybe just some game just reach 600p vs the lowwer Nintendo Wii 480p,
but that didn't stop Wii from out selling the other two console. Maybe they should
locked the game at 720p it that far down from 900p , that way Wii U will not feel inferior to other game consoles

The Wii U does have a bigger user base Xbox One and could sell more games than
the user base on Xbox One have right now. Maybe even more so with free Online gaming on the Wii U and just have it use the pro controller instead of the game pad. Just don't understand what the reason from not doing this???That way we could stop the debates on the console wars and game on.

Xbox One's Watch Dogs is at 792p and it was fun. Eventhough it was 62p was not that far away from 720p. Assassin's Creed Unity is only 180p better than 720p, the 900p only make it halfway there to full HD1080p. Maybe the game should be locked
at 720p and make unity on all three video game consoles (ps4,wii u and xbox one).
That way we could unity and avoid the debates

[Psygnosis333]

Yes I agree,why not put 480p on Wii U Xbone and ps4 and make every one happy,I rLy don't know :\

[Psygnosis333]

I was sarcastic -_- ok,bad sarcasm :P

[1990gamer]

I gusse people want to see 1080p on the Playstation 4 since it should be more
powerful than the Xbox One. The old ps3 console did 720p video gaming and people just don't spent over 550 dollar on new system (cost of internet and game included) and just have 900p vs 720p on old ps3. Just to have 180p better than not have full HD experience of 1080

Not sure if Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 video games reach 720p
Or maybe just some game just reach 600p vs the lowwer Nintendo Wii 480p,
but that didn't stop Wii from out selling the other two console. Maybe they should
locked the game at 720p its not that far down from 900p , that way Wii U will not feel inferior to other game consoles

The Wii U does have a bigger user base Xbox One and could sell more games than
the user base on Xbox One have right now. Maybe even more so with free Online gaming on the Wii U and just have it use the pro controller instead of the game pad. Just don't understand what the reason from not doing this???That way we could stop the debates on the console wars and game on.

Xbox One's Watch Dogs is at 792p and it was fun. Eventhough it was 62p was not that far away from 720p. Assassin's Creed Unity is only 180p better than 720p, the 900p only make it halfway there to full HD1080p. Maybe the game should be locked
at 720p and make unity on all three video game consoles (ps4,wii u and xbox one).
That way we could unity and avoid the debates

[REALZILLA]

IS the game any good?

[AgentSmithPS4]

The AI excuse (if real) makes me laugh, I wasn't impressed with watchdogs' AI and Ubisoft appears to have no common sense in some of their game design choices. I'll wait and see before buying and for many reasons including this stunt of theirs I'll only get this game for a reduced price if it proves itself.

[Majin-vegeta]

Ok lets see.

Fist They said"We decided to lock them at the same specs to avoid all the debates and stuff," senior producer Vincent Pontbriand told VideoGamer.com while explaining that it's the consoles' CPUs – not the GPU – that prevents Ubisoft Montreal from improving the game's performance.

Then "Assassin's Creed Unity's final technical specifications for PlayStation 4 and Xbox One are actually still to be locked down.

Lol nice try Ubi you just keep on digging that damn hole even deeper.

[jay2]

Well they need to get it fixed/patched they're tw**s I mean all games run better on the ps4 version anyway.

[DoggyBiscuit]

Ubisoft did this to make Xbox fan boys happy me personally I feel like it doesn't matter the game still gonna look great

[SynestheticRoar]

It's as genius as DRM.

[dreamed]

We'll i dont see any other option for you rez/fps fanboys but to just take your consoles out side and introduce it to a 2x4.......

maybe then the rest of us can get on with reading about/playing the games with out all this rez bs which none of you can really tell apart anyway FACT!!!!.

losers whos lives revolve around "1080p" "60fps" so much it hurts when its not!!! lulzin my ass of at the lot of ya!!!...lol...lol...lol...trol l...troll....troll!!! Ps boycott as much as you want this game will be the biggest yet,its always the same with ac...plus a few twitter/n4g fanboys dont mean shite to ubisoft.

They didnt give a shit when every tom clancy left in droves and its taken since 2005/2006 for them to even try and make clancy games tactical again,and that hope atm only lies with rainbow 6.....HOPEFULLY!!!...but we'll see???

[Subaruwrx]

The only reason there is such an uproar is because Ubisoft said they were going with parity to avoid debate. Stupid bs pr move by Ubisoft. It's quite possible that the game performs better at 900p but, Ubisoft stuck their foot right into resolution gate by trying to avoid it. The people who released the parity statement to the press should be worried about losing their jobs. I hope they don't because everybody makes stupid errors but, big corporations usually ruthlessly rid themselves of people who make major pr mistakes.

That said, I really enjoyed AC4 so, if AC Unity turns out to be a good game, I will buy it regardless of the resolution.

[ninjahunter]

And here we see a shining example of gamers not caring about game play because of graphics.

[Roccetarius]

Some people actually care about both Gameplay and Technical performance. That's shocking news, right? I'm guessing that flew above the head of many people.

I certainly don't want to be stuck in the past, because consoles can't perfom optimally.

[SordidNotice]

It was a dumb move on Ubisoft's part. Why even release a statement saying to "avoid the debate". Of course it will create an uproar; however, I never understood all of the fighting. Yes one system may be more powerful then another, but in my opinion it's all about the games for me. If I play it and I enjoy it then I don't see any problem with it. Let's just enjoy the games everybody! Great gameplay, and great story in my opinion make a great game. Graphic are meh to me. I own a Playstation, want a Wii U, and maybe in the future get an Xbox One.

O.T. : No. The supposed downgrading didn't help them in anyway.

[kurruptor]

Would you idiots stop saying that Xbone and PS4 have the exact same CPU, but that Xbone's is clocked higher, so that means it is better.

They don't have the same CPU. They both have their own customized version of the Jaguar architecture. That doesn't mean they are customized the same.

Just because Xbone has a higher clockspeed, doesn't mean it is a better CPU.

Benchmarks have shown that the PS4 CPU beats Xbone's.

[Bladesfist]

CPU benchmarks are always very task specific and you could most likely get results that show either CPU as wiping the floor with the other.

[Exies7]

It's really awesome when non credible sources appear in my N4G news feed. It's especially fantastic when the author can't even fact check.

[e-p-ayeaH]

n4g is like ubisoft xD

[ufo8mycat]

Boohoo so its 900p instead of 1080p
It makes literally no different as far as enjoyment of a game.

BUT this has Microsoft written all over it.
Microsoft onviously dished $$ towards Ubisoft to make the PS4 version on par with the XBONE, because they were struggling to get the XBONE version to 1080p.

Ubisoft mentioned it is not GPU limited for the PS4 - if thats the case, no excuse not to hit 1080p then.

So its obvious Microsoft got involved in this. It's being marketed as a XBONE game afterall.

Dirty tactics, even though it really makes no difference as far as enjoyment.

[caperjim]

If your angry about the downgrade then make sure you speak with your wallets. This is going to be a trend this generation.
Ill wait for the price to drop considerably.

[Revengeance]

Well they did get a lot of PR that's for sure. The problem is none of it was positive.

[Mrveryodd]

So many people wineing it hurts my head.

[Adolph Fitler]

I'll be leaving this one OFF my list of games to own. I will join the ranks that punish these lazy, moneygrubbing, rip off developers, that don't deliver us the experience we deserve, on the console with the distinct power advantage.
My only Ubi game I'll commit to buying in the next few months, will be FC4, as I won't be able to help myself with that IP.

And @ korruptor, WHY BOTHER? These fanboys will never get it, they don't even understand the very things they speak of, they just spew meaniningless numbers & sh1t from there arses to try make a point.. My point is that NONE of us understand the inner details of console electronics...otherwise we'd be the geniuses designing them for Sony, MS or Nintendo...
The only thing we do know, from the expert developers & engineers telling us so, is that PS4 is the more powerful console, & that games are being held back & gimped, so as to fit both consoles & not cost the developers anymore time or money optimizing for the better machine... Even without the experts, we know this because games have already released that show in resolution & frame rates that PS4 is the superior machine. That is just fact, & unlike PS3's issues at 1st, this is totally different, as PS3 had notoriously harder initial learning curve for developers, than 360 did, whereas, XBOne & PS4 are both very pc friendly, & have no real proprietary parts that cause developers issues.

As gamers, we should all be working together to FORCE these developers to give us the best experience possible, on the hardware they have available...as remember MS fanboys, if XBTwo is more powerful than PS5, do you want YOUR games gimped & dumbed down to the lowest common denominator? This is an issue for all gamers against lazy developers, NOT a issue for all gamers to divide into corporate fanboys & attack each other.. It's a gamer vs developer war, not a fanboy war... If we came together to fight for ALL OUR collective better interests as gamers, then the industry would be improving in good ways, instead of ways a vast majority of us, are a little disappointed with.

[VegasDawg]

I have a question. Now don't flame me,lol. He said the Ps4's gpu is 50% more powerful than the x1, last I read they had the same gpu. So which is it?

Edit: Just read the comments and found the author, never mind.How does an article like that get here?

And OH, It's all about nothing.

[RedstonerMC]

I disagree with all of this. It was just a stupid move not a secret plan to raise AC unity awareness.

[xXRampage07Xx]

Seriously, "avoiding debates and stuff" is the WORST excuse I've heard of. Have Ubisoft totally lost their mind?
After this fiasco, AC Unity sales take a big hit.

[zerog]

Downgraded, not downgraded, does it matter? Assassins creed still sucks. Its the same boring game with the same broken controls every time. I enjoyed the 1st and 2nd game, got bored with brotherhood and never finished it, bought black flag thinking the navel battles might make it more interesting and it did for a few days but then got boring and repetitive so I stopped playing. At this point they need to just wrap the story up and let it die, move on to something else.

[MAULxx]

The only one I ever played through was Black Flag. I love the pirate stuff. I could care less about the Ass Creed storyline.

[CoryHG]

Maybe if they weren't yearly releases, maybe they could achieve 1080/60

[MAULxx]

Look what Monilith did with Mordor on PS4.
Ubi can use the AI excuse if they want.

[Hestrela]

What's the problem being 900p on ps4? Did the PS3 had AC at 900p? No, and it was fun and beautiful no complains there. just enjoy it

[JoeRated]

They must be smart, now I want to buy their games used for now on....good job guys keep it up

[TheOnlyMastrx]

Why are people still going on about this. Some games require more resources from the console, such as this one, and developers have difficulties reaching the highest resolutions and framerates because of this. Ubisoft decided to lock the game at 900p 30fps so that your consoles don't crash. Maybe post launch they will have a solution for one or both consoles to release a patch to run at 1080p, but until then it is what it is, stop complaining.

[johnny555]

Hey this just in.....

The Daytona 500 is putting a speed limit of 50MPH, they just want to focus on the drivers skills......

I wonder who's winning???

[medabotds]

How does this make an ounce of sense?

[brads4]

PPPSSSSST. Most gamers don't real N4G, and don't care about internal resolutions that games are running. While gaming media might make this a big deal, and there's 'backlash' in the comments, I hardly thing it will affect sales much. Most gamer friends I have that are not mega nerds commenting on N4G don't give a rats ass.

Go ahead and return to your pointless stupid internet fighting.

[kevinsheeks]

Xbox one drm

[brads4]

Psst, all consoles have DRM.. The backlash was as stupid as the internet.

[voodoogts]

Ps4 fan boys crying again because they are missing 180p. Lol. Don't worry if your TV is 1080 it will upscale it to 1080p. I bet some people are still running 720p TVs and are crying that AC is only at 900p... smh. Sony many tearsfrom Sony fan boys.

[Flames76]

Its not downgraded fanboy writer trying to start a flame war.Get a life and get you head out of sonys butt.The ps4 cant handle it plain and simple.Its not a problem its not the first game.Plus ryse is the best looking game on any platform until quantum break that is.So the ps4 actually has to have a game on par with those games for the Xone before starting this crap.Id love to see 3 party devs drop the ps4 so the sony fanboys can just have their sony exclusives since they hate every other game and want to put them down

[g4n]

When I was closer to most of your ages, I was all into computer hardware and really followed GPUs. Who else remembers installing their first AGP GPU?! The first time we had a standard for a dedicated GPU card!!!
I recall thinking "what will the next generation do?"

Well that went to hell didn't it! I cannot believe the sheer ignorance in computer hardware in these comments!

I don't care if you add a second Physical CPU with the same processor cores, add a RAID 10 SSD array in your xb1 it will not be able to meet the graphic processing power of the PS4 on ANY SDK.
Same was true on the 360 (had equivalent of nvidia 6800 ultra) and PS4 (9800 GTX), it's just EITHER of them had difficulties hitting native 1080p.

M$ obviousally banked on your ignorance, with many comments from last gen showing 360 "looks" better (both 720p), and figured you'd never dig into the technical details at a slightly higher resolution now. Sony went for the raw hardware processing power.

Side by side you see the difference yes, but if I were to randomly toggle between 900p and 1080p about 10% of you would guess correctly.

[Matpan]

Sheeesh... people are so hurt by these things. Man... it´s a company making a game for a console! Why take it so personal? So apparently THIS particular dev, for their own particular reasons decided that the best experience, for BOTH consoles would be for the game to run at 900p. Just because in this one game your console of choice cannot outdo the console of choice of other people it does not mean said console is worse... Just that this particular game will be running at the same res than the other console´s.

Seems like all the joy a PS4 user can take on this site is at the fact that their console has a better resolution... My god, kids these days.

[kevinsheeks]

Most of the people against using a console to its full advantage cant use facts just baseless conjecture and name calling with a weak attempt at group shaming

[tonywood]

I've read a ton of these post. Bottom line is that Microsoft been doing this for years. (Buying exclusive DLC, timed exclusive, and resolution bully tacktics)

Sony, Nintendo, and especially......punk ass EA have also done this. If gamers dont like it......just dont buy the games! (That simple) but of course, this won't happen. Peolr will cry about psn and xbox live, and still pay for it. People will cry about milked franchises, and still buy cod, halo, madden, and uncharted.

So.......rise up (like it was done about drm), or shut up, and grab your ankles!

[Many-hat5]

I get why people are pointing to MS as possibly holding back PS4 with their parity clause. I also understand why some think that if the next few games on the horizon also adhere to parity, then something is fishy. I can see the logic, but I don't necessarily agree. It could equally be the case that both consoles are incapable of acheiving higher framerates and resolutions in those games. True, Ps4 is the more powerful hardware, but percentages are not easily assessed in this regard. Also, although AC unity is running 30fps on all formats - supposedly as a preference for better cinematic feel! - I understand the PC will have the option to set game to 60fps.Just pointing out, there may be other reasons for the parity between consoles.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

I thought the "parity clause" had to do with a game releasing at the same time on the XBO and had nothing to do with performance? I don't think any dev would purposefully make their game look worse on a system these guys work too hard to make it look the best it can.

[pop-voxuli]

No, its actually quite bullshit.

[vongruetz]

Yes, brilliant. Piss off your customer base only to then say, "Just kidding!" and hope that everyone comes running back.

I think Microsoft tried that with the introduction of the XB1. How did that work out for them?

Truth is, this was a gaffe, not an elaborately planned marketing scheme. We always give these guys too much credit. No executive would sign off on a plan that insists on upsetting over half your market.

[Simco876]

Still looks good, the only FPS I care about is the next CoD

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Like I've said before.. If every game on PS4 was 60fps/1080p there may be some grounds for this. However, the game sounds like it simply can't run at those specs well on the PS4 (or XBO)

[ATi_Elite]

I wish MS Sony would stop brainwashing consolers into thinking that they have to have 1080p instead of better quality games.

Let's face it the xb1 and ps4 are underpowered so just drop down to 720p 60fps but make some truly amazing games with huge detailed world's, advanced physics, advanced Ai, and better game play.

But I guess if MS Sony are saying ps2 game play with better graphics is what consolers want than who am I to debate it.

[mack1234]

Why don't you do your best?