Xbox One's eSRAM Accelerates Memory Operations, Devs Scaling Down Resolution For Better Performance

"Of course people are scaling down resolution, because the more stuff fits in eSRAM the better performance," explains Shadow Warrior's Lead Engine Programmer, Krzysztof Narkowicz.

[Ballsack]

If you only have a xbox you won't notice the difference in resolution..

[vishmarx]

lol
shouldnt this mean the games should have better performance which comes from sacrificing res?

nope that aint true either

[Kingthrash360]

Lol agreed.
All we mostly see is articles about performance and rez..
Many say now days that they don't matter. Its clear they do. Its clear that these 2 rival consoles are close..but one is leading inost categories. Fun factor is the stand alone most important part of gaming. Both will have that. But that's why rez and performance count in this rivalry. Its exclusives.. And its rez/ frames. Unbundled kinect evens the price.. But at what cost? Now its a weaker machine that costs the same. Better games are a matter of opinion. Facts are more powerful than opinions . the fact that ps4 has more games..more power.. Less paywalls and more introduced ps4 compatible hardware like pstv..and morphious..or a cloud service like PS now, the future just seems more promising the the rumors ms keeps talking about.. No hands on with the cloud.. Or dx12..or the augmented reality things they say they have...really nothing is clear on any of this things. Smh a lot of hand holding has been had this gen with x1. So many excuses and opinions.. But the fact of the matter is we don't know what ms is doing with the x1. What will dx12 do for x1? When will the cloud be truly utilized? When will we see augmented reality? These are supposed to be the difference maker..especially without the kinect. So the only things we know is about rez and frames. Everything else is shrouded in darkness.

[user1439414]

I have been saying since november 2013 that the esram is the problem holding back the resolution on the Xbox One, this developer must have been reading some of my earlier messages about the Xbox One and how to improve it. Hopefully more people understand the massive issues with the Xbox One now and Microsoft can recall all the Xbox Ones and fix them.

[dantesparda]

Well there you have it folks, use the eSRAM and you're more likely to run at 900p. What a bottleneck! MS should have just stopped being cheap and had gone with GDDR5.

[stiggs]

@ MrTehDiNGO

" this developer must have been reading some of my earlier messages about the Xbox One and how to improve it."

Yeah, I'm sure that there is a cadre of developers hanging on your every word.

[ArchangelMike]

Lets not forget who started the resolution wars last gen and why it was started in the first place. Now it has become the 'de facto' trend as a result.

Basically, it's too late now to start saying "teh graphix don't matter, it's about teh gamez..." That might be true in theory, but in practice the fact is as a gamer, regardless of your platform of choice, you want the games to run at their best AS WELL AS to look their best for the money you paid.

You don't really want to find out that your platform of choice is being scaled back because of whatever issue on ANOTHER platform.

Heck that's why PC gamers rightly get worked up when PC games are gimped because of the console equivalents. Or why PS4 gamers go into fanboy rants when PS4 games get gimped because of the xboxone console.

For whatever the devs have to do to make xboxone games perform great and look great, they should avoid at all costs gimping the other versions simply because they want parity across the board.

And we as gamers, regardless of our console of choice have to stop this "it's about teh gamez" excuse and call for devs to make games shine on each individual platform without gimping other versions.

[Gazondaily]

"Lets not forget who started the resolution wars last gen"

Who started it last gen?

[jessupj]

I just want developers to take advantage of both consoles and not gimp one version just for the sake of parity, yet I get called a fanboy for that thinking. Really perplexing.

[mhunterjr]

So this nonsense is about a 7 year old grudge? You would think anyone old enough to remember last gens resolution wars would have grown up a bit by now..

[Christopher]

@Septic: idiots

[MeliMel]

Funny cause all the games I own Xbox are fun and look great. Whether at 1080p or 900p,60 or 30 frames.

Not all gamers see it the way you do. To me as long as PS4 and XB1 games look better than their last gen counterparts im happy and so far neither has disappointed. XB1 at the moment was money well spent.

[Why o why]

The media started it and the fans ran with it. I didn't know of the resolution or framerate differences to such a level until last gen. Remember all the df and lot comparisons. The faction on top used it as a one up over the competition. Its easy for some to say 7 year grudge but its just as easy to say don't give it if you cant take it.

@septic....all you have to do is go back and clock the comments on the multiplat comparisons. I was very very important then made worst by the fact the differences were smaller than they are now. Baring a handful of botched ports/jobs all multiplats played the same yet it didn't stop the one upmanship. Rightly or wrongly, the banter will continue.

In regards to the better sacrifice. I'd also go with res over framerate. Its a pity the x1 has had to do this more often than not but I doubt it'll be that way all gen. I'm not saying the x1 will reach parity but it does have more room for improvement IF 1080P 60FPS remains the defacto or ceiling so in theory the performance gap should close.

@jessupj

Yep, no parity, no problem. So glad the developers aren't forced into like they may have been last gen. If the x1 is better at something.... utilise it, same for the ps4.

[Baka-akaB]

@mhunterjr

I agree on the idea and principle , but let's be honest there ....

Up till the very moment people did learn the ps4 was slighty stronger , and up till the moment a few games were proven to run lower in resolutions .... the notorious fanboys and trolls were still playing the "resolution game" . And suddenly there is a big 360 and the same guys dont care anymore , "it's all about enjoying games and the gameplay"

It is of little consequence to the general public simply buying games on the console they choose to own .

It is important for people that love to study those details or maybe own both platforms

And is it the LIFE of trolls of either sides

[LeCreuset]

"So this nonsense is about a 7 year old grudge?"

Grudge? No. However, when you have seven years of fans, media outlets, and reviewers stirring the public discourse to nitpick and hype the slightest graphical differences you can't expect people to not talk about even more significant graphical differences now, especially if all else is equal or in favor of the stronger console.

[GoGoGadge7]

EXACTLY.

For the last generation Xbox made it A POINT to tell the world 1080P! They even had a chip dedicated for the upres.

Now when the competition has it, and yours does not... it suddenly doesn't matter? That is not how the world works.

[amnalehu]

Eight years ago I was playing my 360 and my PS3 on a 29 inch CRT with a resolution of 640x480. Graphics and resolution were often mentioned when comparing the 360 and ps3. Since my tv could not display a digital picture at 720 it really was not that big of an issue for me. HD in those days was often thought to be a fad and many wondered why we needed games in HD in the first place.

Now I'm playing on a digital 60 inch 1080p tv with a refresh rate of 240. Most people have sets that can resolve an image at 1080p and are over 40 inches in diameter. And now all of a sudden resolution isn't supposed to matter? The fun factor is what's most important but in this day and age most expect games to look great as well as be fun to play. Resolution does matter IMO.

[SpinalRemains138]

Exactly.

This site is the same situation. In late 2006 this place was an Xbox fanboy haven! It was pretty berzerk with all the George Foreman, Enemy Crab, PS3 Doooomz every single day.

From there it went into 7 straight years of Xbox has better multiplats. Everyday.

The PS players took it in the pail like big boys and walked it off. Now that the shoe is on the other foot it's a different story.

Babies.

[Spotie]

@mrhunterjr: You think it was kids that started it last time around? Is that your excuse?

Are you saying all the media outlets that were playing up the differences not just from seven years ago, but SINCE seven years ago- and it's closer to nine now- were run by children? That those execs at Microsoft who crowd about the superiority of multiplats were immature?

Why do I get the feeling you are among the many who speak out now, but said nothing before? It can't be coincidence that this newfound "maturity" comes along just as Microsoft is losing its hold on the gaming arena.

[sovkhan]

Kinda funny, last gen some people needed editing software to prove the so called superiority of a console over another...with regard to multiplats.

And now that the difference is obvious suddenly it does not matter???

Weirdos indeed...

Note, i don't care about resolution nor fps if it solid, but the double faced people just make me frown...

[JBSleek]

If you have a PS4 you won't either. I have both an I could not tell the difference between 900p and 1080p. If I wasn't told I would think they were the same.

[Malphite]

It depends on a lot of things wether you notice a difference or not. The problem is that the resolution topic became such a mainstream thing now is that a lot of people will use it as the main tool in their fanboy wars even though they are probably looking at a badly calibrated TV with the wrong viewing distance in front of them.

I never see people debating TV screen sizes versus viewing distance even though that's an important factor in how you perceive image quality.

[JBSleek]

"It depends on a lot of things wether you notice a difference or not."

Sure if you sit extremely close to the TV.

[lfc_4eva]

900p or 1080p is not that important.

What is more vital is the quality of the textures and post processing.

I've been able to run my pc games at 1080p for years, but games a few years back looked dull in comparison to 1080p games now. The texturing in modern games is more important.

[LeCreuset]

@JBSleek

Just stop. If it weren't noticeable to many people the developers wouldn't bother putting any version, including PS4's, at 1080p. They'd use those resources to beef up the game in other areas.

[Magicite]

I know Ill get tons of disagrees, but by the time PC will run games at 8k/30fps, next-gen consoles will run 1440/60 at best.

[hiawa23]

I have both the PS4 and One, and the difference is really not that big of deal. I just want devs to get the Best performance out of each platform

[BallsEye]

Well, I have both consoles, 50 inch tv and perfect eye sight and while some games look better at 1080p, others in 900p look better than those 1080p because of great AA. Still it's almost not noticable at all when you sit 2 meters away from the TV. Whoever say the can see significant difference talk out of his ars as human eye just can't see that much.

http://image.minyanville.co...

simple chart. Now unless you've upgraded your eyeballs like tiger woods, you should be fine.

[iagainsti120]

I disagree.
http://gizmodo.com/what-is-...

[windblowsagain]

They are having to push through ESRAM, to speed things up. Otherwise games would be even lower rez or less fx.

There's nothing to figure out. The more ppl can cram in, the more stable performance in area's needed. It's already being done./

There is no magic sauce i'm afraid.

[URNightmare]

Future proofed, huh? Can't even run games in full HD without sacrificing other areas of development.

PLAYSTATION 4 is the console to get this gen!

[Fireseed]

Except if you want games like Killer Insstinct, Halo, Sunset Overdrive, Crackdown, Gears of War, Quantum Break, Forza... In which case you may just pick up an Xbox.

[URNightmare]

And if you want even better games than any of those you listed plus better multiplatform games, a dedicated VR Headset, a VG Streaming service and overall a better gaming experience, PS4 it is.

The Playstation brand comes with the full package. Xbox is a complete mess at the moment.

[SniperControl]

None of the above really interest me, except GoW & maybe Forza Horizon 2. For GoW, i would pick up an X1 in a heartbeat.

[Fireseed]

@Sniper

Well then if the Playstation line up interests you more get that than :D Personally I was buying whichever system got KI lol

@UR

No.

[HollowedSoul14]

buying a system for fighting game is ridiculous imo lol and i was huge killer instinct fan on n64 lol fighting games are so one dimensional. good for short bursts of fun but get old real fast.

[Fireseed]

@Hollowed

Then you are clearly not as big of a KI fan as I am lol Idc what system that game was coming out on... I WAS GETTING IT! Hell. If it were to be an arcade release I would've bought myself an arcade cabinet.

But no, if you understand the mechanics and intricacies of a fighting game, the constant back and forth of positioning, pressure, intimidation and mind games is addicting. I dont think I could ever get bored of a good fighting game, and IMO KI hit's that sweet spot for me.

[JeffGUNZ]

Or we could just get both consoles, eh?

[kenmid]

and the PlayStation 4 has no good games right now

[XiYakushijuAkeginuXi]

Saying that means you dislike all the multiplatform games. Oh your so picky

[KinjoTakemura]

@kenmid

"and the PlayStation 4 has no good games right now"

Neither does Xbox One.

[D3ATH_DRIV3R_777]

Judging by your comment and your disagrees, you are not smart! if you was, you must know that most of those games on X1 are on PS4. Just cease with that PS4 has no games bull%#?! already.
If somebody said that X1 has no games, you'll be offended by it,
won't you? you know you would be offended by it. Jeez dude,
kill that noise now.

[kenmid]

@D3ath if i'm not smart, why do I own a PS4? Thats fine you can look at my comment which I do prefer the Xbox One. But get the facts stright before you say i'm not smart. I'm a gamer, I have a gaming pc xbone, and ps4. And like I said Ps4 don't have any good games right now.

[kenmid]

@KinjoTakemura
I think the XBox has better games right now like Titanfall, KI, Forza, and dead Rising. I did like Infomous on my PS4 but thats it. If funny how every gets so work up over a comment I made.

[ArchangelMike]

In terms of future proof, I have to agree that the Playstation4 comes across as the best future proof console right now. With Morpheus, PSTV and PSNow, not to mention the fact that with better overall specs, it will be capable of pushing farther for longer.

[XiSasukeUchiha]

I agree to the PS4 is futureproof, plus games, and finally this article confirmed that ESRam is a giant bottleneck of its own.

[marlinfan10]

I've got both consoles and i guarantee if you saw side by side gameplay of all the different multi plats you wouldnt even be able to tell the difference.

[IAM]

Wtf r u high? CoD & Blackflag
In 720p before the patch look like s***.
I thought something was wrong with my PS4. Haha... Thankfully there was a patch. Not going back to XB1bootleg resolution. BF4 was just barely acceptable. It could use better AA.. On a 60" HDTV its noticeable. So much so its distracting. Microsoft would have to pay me to play at resolution lower then 900p. I do not pay $60 for bootleg resolution.

[lfc_4eva]

And very soon ill be upgrading my graphics card and monitor to achieve above 1080p. So the ps4 is already falling behind for me and many others. No such thing as future proof.

[MasterCornholio]

That's what developers have been saying for a while now. There's really no surprise in the fact that ESRAM causes some issues. But it's better to have it than to not have it otherwise they would have to deal with the poor bandwidth of the DDR3 ram.

[danowat]

Is this merry-go-round still going?, ain't you boys bored yet?

[GW212]

I know I am.

Guaranteed disaster:

1) Start a website that caters to pubescent children... and also video games, sometimes.

2) Let said pubescent children comment and go to virtual war over a hobby. Let them defend their console of choice to the death. Did I mention mommy and daddy purchased said console? No? OK, well make sure that's in there too. VERY important that the children have no financial tie to their console and feel no effect from spending $500 for a glorified computer.

3) Place Orville Redenbacher popcorn into the microwave and cook on high for 3 minutes. Don't forget to listen and stop the microwave when you only hear a pop every 1-2 seconds. This isn't really the disaster part as much as what you should make as a snack while watching these kids go at it.

[nosferatuzodd]

Lol poor xboxone they try so hard

[marlinfan10]

look at your comment history, the only person trying hard is you

[IAM]

U spying?That's creepy.

[Destiny1080]

your water cooler performs like a water cooler

[Volkama]

But my watercooler makes the water cooler AND cost less. Unfortunately neither of our watercoolers have cups.

[ArchangelMike]

At least my water cooler LOOKS cooler :)

[GW212]

I'm thirsty.

[urwifeminder]

Great stuff good to see so many xb1 fans in here enjoying the console.

[tgunzz]

Good choice until devs learn how to really operate with it.

[GeraltofRivia]

XBOX ONE, IT IS SO NEXT GEN THAT IT CAN BARELY OUTPERFORM A 5 YEAR OLD LOW END GAMING PC!!!!! I THINK I WILL PICK UP A PS4 THIS "GENERATION."

[XiYakushijuAkeginuXi]

I think you should pick up a new keyboard before you do that

@below Geralt
Why are you telling me that you can use controllers on your PC? I also had your keyboard and currently use the Corsair Vengeance K70 mechanical gaming keyboard and find it even better than the Cool Master

[GeraltofRivia]

With PC gaming I can play a game with ps3 gamepad, ps4 gamepad, xbox 360 gamepad, xbox one gamepad, Novint Falcon, (soon something like a Virtuix Omni), and so much more my fingers would break if I typed it all. Using a Cooler Master CM Storm keyboard , so far so good. No need for a new keyboard.

[xboxftw]

He lost your point totally.

[No_Limit]

I won't be thinking about ESram when I play the 1080p versions of Halo MCC, Forza Horizon 2, Destiny or the the 900p Sunset Overdrive this Fall. I am only concern with Fun and those games will provide me with that, thank you very much!

[DLConspiracy]

That's some radical thinking you have there. Fun is measured in pixels around these parts. :p

[Caffo01]

Then you can stick to the commodore64.. I bought a new gen console to have fun AND performance.

[Volkama]

You are aware that none of the games he referenced are scheduled for release on the Commodore64, right?

[Caffo01]

If his only concern is to have fun then there are lot of games on commodore64, no need to buy a new console for 4 games. But no, he wants something with new gen graphics and performance ( every early adopter wants that, me included) and, given the fact that xbone doesn't seem to do it properly atm, he's trying to justify his purchase telling everyone that he doesn't care as long as games are fun to play.

[imt558]

Probably you won't play Halo 2 Ann. @1080p

http://m.neogaf.com/showpos...

Well, cut down resolution for better perfomance... Just like in the eSRAM article

[No_Limit]

LOL,OK..whatever. I'll be just as happy to play a less than 1080p game with over 100 MP maps on dedicated server. Thanks you very much. :). Have fun pulling resolution gate as many Xbox One gamers, including myself,simply don't care when we will be fragging each other on dedicated server this Fall.

[MasterCornholio]

Well thats weird since the first two are Xbox games while the 3rd and the 4th are Xbox 360 games.

I honestly doubt that the console isn't strong enough to play them on 1080P.

@No_Limit

Xbox fans do care about resolution gate. Otherwise they wouldn't go through great lengths in trying to convince everyone that DX12 and the cloud will fix the problem. Also this fall DF will analyze all the Halo games in the collection and I can guarantee you that people will bash it like crazy if any of the games end up below 1080P. At that moment you will see Xbox fans defend the game like heck.

I dont want to see fights break out over this but they are bound to happen.

[Why o why]

Then dont upgrade again and I never wanna see you in another x1 secret source article or or any other rhetorical gap closing article again.

After fun comes performance.... its been that way since forever. Amiga guys used to bag on atari guys, nintendo vs sega, pc amd vs pc nvidia etc. Get off the morality pedestal because it's always been about fun first and foremost but there is something called competition and rivalry. Having or discussing a crisper picture or a better framrate didn't just delete 'fun' did it. When it does then you'll have a leg to stand on.

[No_Limit]

"Then dont upgrade again and I never wanna see you in another x1 secret source article or or any other rhetorical gap closing article again."

LOL, if I don't upgrade, how am I supposed to play Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break, Halo 5? On a Commodore 64? :/

Also, so I own the console,and it is is article about it. why shouldn't I be posting on it? FYI, I only talk common sense on those articles so please just stop with the nonsense.
Here is just one of my quotes regarding Xbox performances in an "XB1 related article":
"Give it a rest, so MistermediaX and Greenpowerz claim it will be the second coming of Jesus doesn't equate to it being what MS or Phil Spencer had proclaim what DX12 will do."
http://n4g.com/news/1534102...

My question to you is, do you own a XB1? If not, why do I constantly see you on XBox related articles and calling people out when it has no affect on you since you are not a fan of the console? Does the XB1 version of 792p have any affect on you when you play your 900p version on the PS4?

All you haters stop putting words in my mouth, please link those quotes from my history to back up your claim. Also, please look into the mirror and see that the ones that are hurting are constantly on articles like this and talking negative about a console that doesn't pertain to them..cough, why O Why..cough. I also own a PS4; yet, you will never see me on a PS4 article bashing it...again, if you find one from my history, please link it or like the Rock used to say "Know Your Role,and Sh_t Your You Know What"

[Why o why]

Lol, who you trying to kid. I was simply stating that personal fun is and always the defacto, gameplay too. That can't be argued against. But just like you can say you'll play on 'dedicated servers' like somehow they're exclusive to your prefered platform just like others will say they want 1080p on their crisp 1080p screens... Obviously you're saying it because you veiw d servers as a plus. See we can all pick and choose whats important when it suits us cant we. My issue with 'people play pixels' is that, that statement in itself is disingenuous. I agree with the sentiment but c'mon now, lets be honest, if either of you were in last gens multitude of multiplat comparisons stating the same thing then I've directed my comment at the wrong 2 people on this occasion. Im not even going back far either. 2012 onwards I'm gunna stick my neck out and say I doubt it. If I'm wrong then, my bad and take my apologies in advance.

What I find curious is that voicing the desire for better x or y is now being put under the anti gamer moniker like somehow having better res or fr detracts from the experience when its hasnt proven to be the case.

I know some 360/ps3 guys didn't give 2 sh#ts about performance per say so what I say isn't at them but there are some hypocritical members who can't take what they gave. I just wished more people told more of their own to chill out or to stop crying foul now things have changed and that includes sales, exclusives online etc.

I seldome go into x1 only articles to chat sh#t or troll or you get debubbled swiftly. What I take from that notion is that you disagree with what I'm saying or it irks you I call some people/behaviours out ... ill take that as theres ef all wrong with that, our preferences differ so thats normal.

[ArchangelMike]

I think the fact that the PS4 continues to outsell the xboxone in all regions, shows that people do care about BOTH performance and resolution, as well as FUN. And it seems that right now the xboxone is not capable to delivering the full package deal without gimping on either performance or resolution.

[imt558]

First you said

"I won't be thinking about ESram when I play the 1080p versions of Halo MCC.."

And then :

I'll be just as happy to play a less than 1080p game with over 100 MP maps on dedicated server.

WTF? Choose one option, dude.

[LoveOfTheGame]

I'm having trouble finding the words that show how much you have just failed this species at proving we are intelligent beings.

I guess the best I can do is say I might have to go to the doctor, as the logic you have used in your two post may have given me cancer.

[jnemesh]

Except Halo isn't going to run at 1080p...at least not Halo 2. Have fun with your overpriced, underperforming console.

[Gore-Content]

*MEGA FACEPALM*...............

[Illusive_Man]

Maybe this dev should just speak for itself. Other devs are achieving 1080p without sacrificing performance. Those devs have mentioned that the ESRAM can provide serious bandwidth gains if utilized properly and as MS intended.

[GodGinrai]

Thats what I was thinking too.

[Caffo01]

"Other devs are achieving 1080p without sacrificing performance" please tell me which devs..

[GW212]

1080p without sacrificing performance? Please tell me which ones? That goes for the PS4 too. Both consoles make performance sacrifices to hit 1080p. PS4 just has stronger hardware and can hit that target more consistently and/or without having to sacrifice as much.

[cruzngta]

Damn thats messed up. So I guess if they get 1080p it took alot and sacrifices were made elsewhere. No full 1080p games with all effects? That is unnaceptable.

[The_devils_chum]

Old news devs have been saying ESRAM is fast and great and all that but 32mb is way too small, they never have enough memory for frame rate and rez. Its like the 1st game boy vs sega game gear.

[Keith22]

Having to scale down on Nxt Gen lol

[KinjoTakemura]

No mystery here. The Xbox One just doesn't have enough juice to play games with top notch graphics and high resolution at the same time. Something has to be lowered in order to have a high performance game function within the parameters of the Xbox One's specs.

[Clarence]

Inferior hardware. Nothing new here.

[Sadist3]

The games on my ps4 look the same on my friends X1. You can't tell the difference in resolution unless you put two of the same TV's side by side with the same game on different systems. That's not a substantial difference if you have to go through all that to detect a difference in resolution. And no one cares, sure the PS4 is seling more but guess what? The X1 is still selling a lot too

[IAM]

Stop playing on a 32" Walmart TV, its sadist.

[AllAboutGaming]

Microsoft should release the Xbox One 32X peripheral that plugs into the original Xbox One to give it Ultra Blast Processing!

[Ihatetrolls76]

That or release dx12 already ms should have waited a year till the system was actually ready then we wouldn't be hearing the nonsense from all these trolls.

[voodoochild346]

Dx12 is made to make pc have some of the advantages of console. The fact that fanboys such as yourself still cling to dx12 as if it's Jesus or something despite Phil Spencer saying it won't have much of an effect for xbox, shows how desperate you are.

[quenomamen]

@ Ballsack
If you only have a xbox you won't notice the difference.

Yup, and if all you have is a DVD player ( like many people still do ) then you think DVD movies look great at 480p. Should you just accept DVD's lower resolution and be happy ? Should you pretend Bluray doesnt exist ?

Then why should anybody have to accept a lower resolution performing console ?
Cuz your friends have one ? If all your friends still watched movies on DVD should you ?

[Ihatetrolls76]

Wait till 2015 then we can come back to this article pretty sure a lot of people will be eating humble pie NOPE they will try and spin it that's how trolls work.

[btk]

So MS wanted to go for 8GB from the start and Sony went for less but GDDR5. As luck would have it GDDR5 for 8GB became available just in time for Sony and because of devs pressure Sony went with 8GB. If MS knew that the right GDDR5 would be available in their release timeframe they would have gone with GDDR5. They had to go with DDR3 and ESRAM at the time to get to 8GB. It was logical. Sony got lucky this time around.
No amount of spinning will make ESRAM + DDR3 perform equal to GDDR5. End of story.
All we can see now is endless spinning to make the situation look better.

[jnemesh]

Sorry, but resolution IS important. And the inability for Xbox to match Sony's performance is inexcusable. You can say GAMES GAMES GAMES all you want...but guess what? Xbox has 43 games available to play RIGHT NOW, and Sony has 88! So Xbox has FEWER GAMES to play, and the ones it has play at LOWER RESOLUTION! Remind me why people are buying this again? Oh, that's right, they aren't!

[rorytmeadows]

I love reading an entire comments section of people not knowing anything about what they are talking about. Give developers time to master the SDK and use ESRAM effectively. Until then, blame the project managers for pushing timelines over taking the time to master the SDK. PS4 architecture isn't new. It's just updated, so it has nothing to add to the table. Based on feedback from developers (not project managers), MS chose a different route, new for the console industry. Now they just need time to learn how to use it effectively.

And if I hear someone misusing the term "cloud" again, I'm going to punch this monitor.

[quenomamen]

Go punch your boyz over in Redmond, theyre the ones who came up with it.
Oooh yea CLOUD, CLOUD, CLOUD CLOUD, CLOUD, CLOUD CLOUD, CLOUD, CLOUD

[Torgul]

Big off topic

@misterxfollowers

How can you give your support to a guy who ban you just becouse you give your opinion? Just becouse I sent a MSG to say that I thought the cloud was the secret sauce with some other home made stuff in the apu.
Waou banned me just for this.
Just in case I don t have a ps4 And I am a long xbox gamer....
WTF with this guy?He is the same who critics n4g neogaf for banning people with opinion in favor of xbox.
Pathetic!!
Majority of his followers are cool guys And not blind about the BS mrx insider....

Rant over

[tommygunzII]

MS should have made the X1 a handheld.

[Fangrim]

I think Microsoft was caught with their panties down.

Noone expected Sony to use GDDR5 RAM for the entire system. Even fewer expected 8GB of it jn a unified architecture.
Up until the reveal of system specs, most people thought that Sony would go for 4GB DDR3.

So I think that Microsoft was convinced they had a winner. 8GB DDR3 + 32GB superfast ESRAM vs. an estimate of Playstation's 4GB DDR3 + some GBs of video memory.

[DevilishSix]

ESRAM would have been fine but there isn't enough of it, they had to sacrifice gpu space to fit on the dye, so we also got a lesser gpu because of their decision not to use DDR5 ram. It was microsofts mistake, I blame Don Mattrick, notice he left.

[Prime157]

I don't get why my Samsung s4 can sometimes see this site and sometimes not.

Ads, I wonder?