Thief will not run at 1080p on the Xbox One?

Eurogamer writes: "Thuway, as you know the insider tied to rumor as the virtual helmet of Sony or the boost of 10% on X1 , did not make reference to the resolution of the counterparty for PlayStation 4, but has "confirmed" that the one for Microsoft's console will stop before the fateful Full HD."

[XiSasukeUchiha]

So what is the resolution now i suppose!

[Ezz2013]

900p or 720p i guess

i think it's time we let this stupid console war end
Ps4 will always top xbox in gfx and framerate
so it would be much better if we all accept that FACT
and only look for games we like the most on whatever

Face Off sites will be much more pointless this time around thanks to ps4 being more powerful and easier to work with

[AngelicIceDiamond]

And I agree with EZ.

[admiralvic]

I would be happy if every rumor that the game doesn't hit 1080P didn't become a news article. These are early titles and it tends to take a while for games to really capitalize on the potential of the system. I assume most developers just want it to work and be stable and anything else is gravy.

[PSN-JeRzYzFyNeSt]

i concur with ez tooo

[morganfell]

Where were all of these "Let's just be gaming friends" people when the PS3 was attacked for years over Multiplatform ports?

This is next gen, the generation where the only video out port is an HDMI plug and people have a right to expect True HD.

Also there is this little thing known as comeuppance...

[lolCHILLbro]

Didnt Thuway also say that Sony was unveiling the PS4 VR Headset aswell at CES? also if he is a legit insider, how come he has soooo much information on so many different subjects? maybe its media dribble for "breaking news" storys lol

[LOGICWINS]

@Morganfell- Are you really holding a grudge...on the Internet...over multiplatform PS3 games being attacked?

Frankly, I'd be scared to see how you deal with real life problems if something like that bothers you, especially after several years.

[pyramidshead]

@morgan

"Where were all of these "Let's just be gaming friends" people when the PS3 was attacked for years over Multiplatform ports?"

Totally agree, if the other side can't take it they shouldn't have gave it out last gen!

[MajorLazer]

It is sad how the gen has barely begun and already there are big gaps between the X1 and PS4. I think this gen will be a bigger gap, graphics wise, than the 360 and PS3

[mediate-this]

I agree with you, one will always be a little more powerful then the other or more powerful, just play games, i have wii u, ps4 and xbone. Im currently playing xbone atm just cause of killer instinct.

But when the games roll ill play what is good on either aystem i have.

[Ratty]

I agrew with Ezz2013 of course. I game on PS3, PS4 and PC and I hate the Xbox (any Xbox) but this needs to stop.

@morganfell

It wasn't any better back then but some people need to act like grownups in a world dominated by manchildren.

Game where you want to game and leave other people alone. It's not like you'll convince them their favorite console sucks by bashing it constantly.

PS fanboys, Xbox fanboys and PC master race are all really annoying people. Actually, the PC master race is especially getting on my nerves lately but that's just me.

[ramiuk1]

i have a ps4,really glad i chose it but im getting bored of hearing how amazing it is,i know its got alot more power.
lets just let either enjoy the games even though they look better on ps4 ,xboners will still enjoy them for what they are.

I just hope devs keep getting everything out of each console

[ZombieKiller]

They really should have stuck with the name xbox 720.

Just kidding. I couldn't help it.

As for all the PS fanboys saying lets just be friends....I have a PS4 and I am still saying that. We are all gamers, join us.

I was going to buy the xbox one but with the DRM, the policies, and now all these claims about 720P, I'm good. I fixed my Red Ring of Death yesterday so Titanfall is mine in March on 360...that's really all I want on the xbox.

[darkesthour4]

Couldnt have said it better myself.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I agree Ez... I have no issue with saying PS4 is a more graphically capable machine, nor do I have an issue saying that matters little to me as my games of choice are on a different system.

[PLASTICA-MAN]

Not trying to troll or something but I am stating facts. If the xbone can't run a game with the aging old-gen Unreal Engine 3 at 1080p, then how it going to run games with the upcoming Unreal Engine 4 ? I see why the engine is taking too much time to be released because they had to adapt for the lowest common denominator which isnthe Xbone which means cutting more and more of its features. They began with cutting SVOGI, what's next ? Tbh this is very bad for next-gen gaming and it will affect (or better say infect) the other platforms which are the PS4 and the PC.

[hellzsupernova]

Yeah, playstation 4 has the graphics race. No need to argue over it or make the xbots feel bad about it.

[GribbleGrunger]

I would hold off on believing this just yet, guys. Thuway hasn't verified anything. This site has just read his original tweet in which he is 'more or less' certain. Is it 'likely', probably. Is it 'certain', nope.

[sinjonezp]

Bottom line is PS4 is the better solution for multi platform games. There is no denying it. Microsoft made a calculated mistake/risk going with ddr3 and esram for gfx memory. The esram takes up space on the chip and resulted in MS reducing the amount of gfx cores.Ddr3 memory is 90% less capable than gddr5.(link on.request) many people like to state that Microsoft gfx will get better over time, but with 50% less raw gfx power and a ram solution that cannot deliver the amount of data bandwidth, the conversation is irrelevant to compare. Microsoft needs to focus on.providing quality tools and.assets for game developers so they can get the most out of there box. There is no need to argue anymore, just focus on content. I do not dislike xbox, their first party content should be good, but when it comes to any 3rd party game, the choice is obvious, ps4.

[mhunterjr]

People have accepted this as fact a long time ago. But with every game release we have to get another article like this one, that just gives the ps4 folks a reason to goat.

[kreate]

@logicwins

'Are you really holding a grudge...on the Internet...over multiplatform PS3 games being attacked? '

Werent u one of those guys bashing the ps3 last gen? And ended up w 1 bubble for trolling so much?

[UncleGermrod]

I have to agree, I love my xbox one, and my ps4 is on the way as we speak (nabbed one from bestbuy online), but the fact is that we already know that the ps4 is more powerful. xbox one is not so far removed as something like the wiiU, but we already know the facts...so why is it such a huge talking point when we already know what to expect.

What I will say is that MS was touting 1080p and so they better find a way to help devs hit 1080 and quick, if it's even possible (I would think some of these early games maybe could have with some extra time).

Glad I have the choice of which platform to buy multiplats for, but for those of you who do not, please do not worry so much. My brother has ps4 and I have xbox one, and I really could not see a huge diff for BF4, ghosts etc. on our tv's (42inch and 50inch). The diff is there, but not enough to make you regret your purchase. I wish everyone would just relax with all this already!

[nerdman67]

Yeah, this is something that cannot be disputed.
X1 still has good games, its just weaker

[dedicatedtogamers]

Well, for starters, Mattrick (when he was still around) and Spencer and other Xbox representatives were at first claiming they'd be 1080p as well and that X1 hardware was just as powerful. Then it was "more powerful, once you add in the power of the cloud". Then it was "less powerful on paper, but we're the ones who invented DirectX". What's the current excuse? Something along the lines of "technically weaker, but we deliver the best **experience**". Goalposts continue to shift.

So, no, it's not just a matter of "teh console warzzz" and to dismiss it as such is simply an invitation for Microsoft to continue steamrolling its consumers. It is a matter of a company saying one thing and then reality hits and it's another thing entirely.

Microsoft just needs to stop talking. Whether it's talking abot "plans" for first-party games or talking about "investing" to be the #1 next-gen console or talking about how better digital prices are "on the agenda", they simply need to shut up. I understand why they're doing it - this is a classic case of "flood the airwaves with positive PR talk so that it dilutes all the horrible news about our product", but it's annoying.

[silvacrest]

i have to agree, new game after new game is always coming out inferior on the one and superior on the PS4

i dont really believe it will get better for the one considering both next gen consoles are basically PC's so devs should have no problem using them to the fullest extent

[NovasRevenge]

guess they should have called it the xbox 720, its way better suited to the name.

[MightyNoX]

@dedicatedforgamers: I agree with you. As long as Microsoft keeps saying things like "The ONLY next Gen console" or "The TRUE Next Gen Console, Xbox One", these articles will always make headlines.

[heisenberguk]

I agree but 360 fanboys gloated to ps3 fanboys last gen so they're getting their own back this gen!

[-Foxtrot]

I hope people support the best version of all games because it sends a message to the developers which is thats what we as consumers look for...the best.

I hate the "Well my friends are getting this" excuse because at the end of the day you must be much of a gamer if you let your friends dictate what games you play. Your more of a sheep.

[PeaSFor]

@LOGICWINS

xbox lovers went apeshit with the "ps3 cant do grass" and others 20p difference from COD games etc, now that the table have turned.... "oh its ok since you see no difference between 1080p and 720p" ...double standards much? i remember a bunch of peoples trying to rub it into the ps3 owner faces with everything they could grasp.

[lifeisgamesok]

Resolution is so overrated

http://images.eurogamer.net...

http://images.eurogamer.net...

[DragonKnight]

The Xbox One version doesn't need to run at 1080p. It has Kinect...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[MazzingerZ]

Funny, last gen the differences were microscopic and despite of that it was worth full articles every single week but today when people pays more for a console that promises higher performance (even above PS4's!) thanks to "the cloud" and doesn't seems to be able to deliver that we don't want this info to be spread and let MSFT get away with their lies.

Personally, I do not think so. Everytime one of these article are published there are people finding this out for the first time so it helps them when making their purchase choice, it's not like same people reads these articles all the time

There are still people out there that wonders about the difference between DVD and BR...just saying...

[starchild]

We've known the PS4 is more powerful for months.

On every videogame site I frequent there are only like 4 or 5 diehard Xbox fanboys that try to claim the XB1 is just as powerful.

Do those few Xbox fanboys bother you Sony fanboys so much that we have to have 10 articles for every multiplatform game that has lower performance or resolution on the XB1?
Do you really need to flood into each of those articles by the hundreds and bash the XB1 over it, even though 97% of us gamers already know and agree that the PS4 is more powerful?

The whole behavior makes no sense.

We all know the PC is the most powerful platform, the PS4 is the most powerful console, the XB1 is the next most powerful, and the Wii U is the weakest console. But that doesn't mean that there aren't great gaming experiences to be had on each and every one of those platforms.

[Dehnus]

@PLASTICA-MAN:
I can't see why you get agrees for this bullshit.

Engines have nothing to do with this. An Engine is mostly a middleware tool on which you can develop games on top of. Depending on what Art assets you load, the PS4 will also have trouble with UE3. Not because it can't run the Engine, but because it also has a maximum in what it can do.

[morganfell]

Dehnus,

I understand your core statement but it isn't necessarily true. An engine isn't just a middleware product. Middleware is successful because they talk to hardware and software manufacturers with whom they need their middleware to function. Many times engines are coded to run on certain platforms. Nvidia has a lot of monetary sway in this arena. This goes back a long way. 3D acceleration for Janes F15 was only available via Glide. Unreal ran better on 3DFX. U3 ran better on the 360 until Epic made engine improvements and better adapted it to the PS3.

As regards Unreal4 Epic has a longstanding relationship with MS that has likely come to an end. Mark Rein and Tim Sweeney have used over 90% of their praise for the PS4. That should tell you something.

[showtimefolks]

Ezz2013

true we don't need article after article stating facts that ps4 is indeed more powerful. A nd no matter how hard MS tries, there is a big difference between 720P and 1080P, with 30 or 60 FPS.

but than i say we had to hear it from xbox360 fanboys all last gen on how every 3rd party game looks better on xbox360 compared to ps3, so in a way what goes around comes around

[indyman7777]

Last gen people called the xbox360 RROD. If this keeps up people will call this one xbox361 instead of xbox one, or xbox 720P. I for one can't believe someone would design one of the newer consoles with 8 cores, and 8gig but not give it enough for most games to be 1080p.

[Withdreday]

@Ezz2013

It'll never happen as Microsoft fans still need to justify their purchases.

Once that stops, the console war will end almost overnight.

[SilentNegotiator]

"Where were all of these "Let's just be gaming friends" people when the PS3 was attacked for years over Multiplatform ports?"

PS fans have already gotten sick of bringing the point across and Xbox fans would rather lower the brim of their hats and pretend like they never cared about graphics comparisons.

That's why there's suddenly this mutual agreement.

[shoddy]

@morganfell
It's pay back time

[Dhuie]

And i agree with EZ.

[speedforce131]

@dedicated

the current excuse is "Ryse looks better than every game" LMAO

http://gamingbolt.com/alber...

"I still think Ryse is still the best looking game on any platform. Period. End of story,”

[fanboybeatdown]

Yeah so I guess the biggest reason I am not getting a ps4 is simply because of the childish PS fanboys on n4g, that have, unbelievably, held a grudge from 2006 inflicted by n4g MS fanboys against PS n4g fanboys in 2006, carried over to 2014. Take a moment to think about that...

Today the 2014 PS fanboys carry the flag for the jilted 2006 PS fanboys that lost the glory of the ps2 days and were mired in the shame of the ps3 media attack.

And now, the PS fanboys are justifying their childish attack on other gamers and justifying their actions by referring to something that happened 8 years ago?

Is that a little bit sad and disturbing?
Yep. You betcha. It is wretched and sick.
It's bordering on religious fundamentalism. Problem is there is no actual religion - it's only corporations and gaming consoles!

I am guessing there are a lot of very lost and socially inept gamers out there that need the ps4 to give them reason to live... that would explain the religious fanaticism.

The sad truth is that N4g has collected the most insulated 'aspergers geeks' the world has ever seen as part of its core community. How else would you explain fanboys that camp out on pending n4g news stories to make sure their comments are seen at the top and rewarded with bubbles from the top heavy PS fanboys in this community?

Well done Ps4! Well Done N4g!
You have shown us a new low in the world of gaming.

Shame on you, PS fanboys, for continuing this farce and N4g admins for allowing this shite to happen.

N4g makes money off all the aspergers kids on here. Don't you guys realise that? You think you are winning, but you are being played.

Wake up fanboys.

[snoopgg]

As Obi Wan once said "Use the cloud Luke" Ha ha the cloud will make the xboxone more powerful! Sarcasism included.

[GuruMeditation]

@fanboybeatdown socially inept? You mean like someone who would blacklist a console just because of the behaviour of one group of people in a comments section? And Aspergers fanboys? You disgust me. People with low-mid spectrum autism have just as much ability and right to communicate as others and, I dare say, you've come across at least a few intelligent people online who have a form of autism, you inconsiderate bigot.

Source: my son has autism and is still a great deal more intelligent than fanboybeatdown

[nohopeinc]

@morganfell

"This is next gen, the generation where the only video out port is an HDMI plug and people have a right to expect True HD."

I think you not know the meaning of that word right. Intentionally worded all stupid like BTW. You remember how important res was back in the day when playing some of the classics. Like NES days, really good games but I was like nah dog I only play 540p True SD.

I agree XB1 is clearly under powered. I would hope nobody buys a console for the power.

[morganfell]

Really fanboy?

People that live in glass houses...

Have you taken a moment to examine your own post history? Your very first comment (under that name) on this site was used to call PS4 supporters fanboys. Your writings are replete with teen angst over the rise of the PS4 as the dominant console this gen and you have the hypocrisy to brand those supporters in ill fashion while you yourself sling one poorly aimed defensive shot after another in failed attempts to protect the X1.

You refer to supporters in PS4 threads as trolls yet it is you that come into the threads of a console you hate (envy) and vainly endeavor to downplay the PS4 while insulting those there commenting on something they enjoy. Laughable.

All one need do is look at your post history. It is one bitter remark after another lacking even the slightest sign of something that others demonstrate regularly on this site - joy in their gaming hobby. In a way I feel sorry for you. In a way.

The undeniable fact is this generation will last for years and the domination of the PS4 will continue to grow. PlayStation Now will be huge and will only serve to widen the gap between the PS4 and it's competitors. These very early differences between the console versions are a harbinger of sorts and that message does not bear pleasant news for non PS4 fans that lived and breathed for the day when MS would really have the most powerful console.

[fanboybeatdown]

lol Morganfell

As expected, you attacked me, instead of reviewing your own history.
Hallmark of a fanboy.

the fact that you responded to the content of and replied to my comment shows that you are the exact type of PS fanboy that I wanted to point out.

Cripes

Talk about walking into my trap, PS fanboy.
A perfect case in point PS fanboy you are.

PS. I feel sorry for you, PS fanboy. You are stuck in 2006!

[morganfell]

Thanks for admitting your only purpose in this thread was to troll. That is just one of the many differences between you and I.

And it is you that do not look at history or else you would bear witness to the myriad of instances where I admit readily, no, proclaim loudly that I am a diehard Sony supporter.

You on the otherhand have only yourself fooled into believing you are anything but what your actions reveal you to be. And they have shown you here for you true nature. At least you are consistent in your trolling.

The only trap that has been sprung is the one you laid and then fell into yourself. If you could only see the public figure you have painted of yourself.

Yes it is 2006. The PS3 outsold the 360 worldwide from launch and here history repeats itself. The difference now being that Sony began ahead in total sales and will stay ahead while the X1 falls further and further behind.

Enjoy your imagined victory while I game away on my PS4, the most powerful console.

[insomnium2]

@fanboybeatdown

"Yeah so I guess the biggest reason I am not getting a ps4 is simply because of the childish PS fanboys on n4g, that have, unbelievably, held a grudge from 2006 inflicted by n4g MS fanboys against PS n4g fanboys in 2006, carried over to 2014. Take a moment to think about that... "

Except it wasn't only the fanboys who got the PS3-people pissed it was the MEDIA. MS had the media backing them whenever it was doom on PS3 price, no gamez, BD is dead, etc.

I have personally never ever seen so much misplaced and biased rage towards a console as PS3 got from the media. Seeing that made me a PS3 fan for life. Seeing that and in addition to that reading all the MS spokespersons taking a jab at Sony whenever they had the chance made me pretty much hate MS for life.

The MS fanboys were nothing. It was pure comedy tearing their comments apart and seeing all their BS claims being shot down one by one. That has got to be the most bitter, juvenile, childish, insecure fanbase I have ever seen and it seems they haven't changed one bit. Mart atxboxkings (forgot how it's spelled since we called him mart) is the only big XB fanboy to turn around and redeem himself afaik.

[andibandit]

@morganfell

Way to hold a grudge

[Giul_Xainx]

2007..... lense of truth becomes popular. 2014 no one goes there anymore.... see the trend?

[come_bom]

"Thief Doesn't Run At 1080p On Xbox One"

Not surprised...

[vigilante_man]

Great sentiment from EZ above about let's just get on with gaming.

Did media and 360 fans bust PS3 and Sony because they had better looking multi-platform games - Yes!

Have Microsoft tried to lie to us all and try to convince us all the XB1 is as powerful as the PS4 - Yes!

I think if MS just concentrated on their strengths we could all get along just fine. Give PS4 fans their gloating time and lets all move on.

Great games are great games. Buy your console of choice and celebrate the amazing games we will all enjoy.

Just stop with the lies and BS about power and the cloud!

[Unspoken]

I think we should have more articles showing the difference between the PS4 and gaming PCs and title each one,

The PS4 won't run *insert game title* at 1440p and 120FPS!!!!

Then we can get all the PC fanboys together and claim how much faster their PC is with the excuse that PS4 kids are bragging how much better their system is over gaming PCs and how Sony lied to everyone claiming their PS4 is more powerful than PCs and how bad streaming games from PS Now is going to be because of the lag or compression.

This is all totally justified because how the PlayStation community is acting.

Or wait, does that all sound very very immature?

[Arkardo]

Isn't the Xbox 1080 out yet?

[imt558]

@Arkardo

Quote :

Isn't the Xbox 1080 out yet?

Nice one!

[speedforce131]

I don't think they can count that high. Given their order of naming conventions.

[Virus201]

That rumor is false.

https://twitter.com/atPeteD...

Thuway is wrong again.... but when has he ever been right?

[morganfell]

Looks like you were wrong...

[Felix313]

will it be native or upscaled 1080??

[Edsword]

All we are saying is give peace a chance. Haha, I saw one post where someone was actually talking about sides! What in the world! Do you work for Sony or MS? Stop getting so invested in things my friends. Just enjoy what you have. If you have an xb1, enjoy it, it has some great games. If you have a PS4, enjoy it. PS fans, please rise above, even if you had to hear this all last gen.

[GuruMeditation]

It's much too late for that. People ARE emotionally invested in gaming, just as some people are emotionally invested in sports. It's been a reality of gaming as far back as I can recall. I see no harm in it, just people supporting their platform in the most rabid way possible and, frankly, I find it all highly entertaining (just as I did at school when people were arguing the benefits of C64, Spectrum and CPC)

[Edsword]

The harm is not from friendly jest. The harm comes in when people actually get depressed because their brand or team is not winning. I have a nephew who gets so emotionally involved in Nintendo that he has litterally been depressed for months. He is a little autistic, which obviously makes things a little worse, but there are individuals who just get too wrapped up in all of this. My post is for them.

[tagan8tr]

I think some not all of this stems from days when consoles would tank 2yrs in "Dreamcast" The original Xbox barely lasted 4yrs so people want their system to stick around "Wii U". When people like something they defend it.

[HomerJDog]

of course it maria again. this dude has trust issues that he has to keep trying to convince others to not buy a xbox one. I personally don't care I'm xbox all the way no matter what

[Hyper_Tension140]

Why? Whats wrong with playstation, cant hurt to have both right?
If the xbox one had the power of the wii u will you still buy it for $500?
(You said Im xbox no matter what so Im afraid you will.)

[jgrigs09]

@ Foxtrot, so now people who own Xbox One like myself, have to go out and buy a PS4 to get the better version? Sorry, buddy but I won't let 1 game dictate what console you should get. I know for a fact Thief and Watchdog will look better on the PS4. But what keeps me staying with the Xbox One, are the exclusives coming to the Xbox this year. The PS4 I'm not interested with the games. So whatever console you buy, YOU ARE SUPPORTING THE DAMN GAME. It's kind of hypocritical to say you you shouldn't buy the console because your friends have it. Yet, you say we should be supporting the better version(implying buy the ps4). News flash buddy, not all people who buy xbox/playstation have a hard on for specs. Some people actually buy the consoles to play with their friends who live in other states.

[assdan]

My guess is that the ps4 will almost always have higher detail and 1080p vs 900p and there will be some cases where it's 720p.

[HappyWithOneBubble]

Will there ever be a 1080p game on Xbone?

[stavrami-mk2]

no

[ZodTheRipper]

At least not with fluid 60 frames per second & good graphics I'd say ...maybe next year.

[Unspoken]

I'd rather have 720p and 900p and keep the framrates at 60fps over 1080p.

By the way, there are quite a few games running at 1080p. Do some research before asking a question about something it seems you wouldn't know the difference about unless someone explained it to you.

LoL look how many people agreed with you, this site has too much ignorance.

[ic3fir3]

Need for speed, fifa14, forza 5, nba 2k, nba live,tomb raider DE,madden 25, max the curse of brotherhood etc.. its all 1080p on xbox one

[Brianaro]

Tomb raider is not 1080p

[ThePope]

Yes it is

[Arkardo]

Games that don't push graphical boundaries at all, and don't say Forza, it's a racing game without night and day, no weather...

[StealthPandemic]

TR is 1080p @Brianaro

[cyclindk]

@brianaro

It is 1080p, i just believe it has been rumored to only reach 30 fps as target as opposed to 60 on ps4, again rumors i believe not yet confirmed.

[LexHazard79]

Its not that its not possible but its seems as tho there is some bottleneck with the console. Does the Esram have anything to do with it? Also if so MS is in trouble. It seems like these games need more development time on Xbox One or something.

[SaturdayNightBeaver]

what im wondering is , 1920x1080p or 1280x1080p like we had on GT5 ps3. :) no one knows.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Yeah Tombraider, the new Aliens game, Project Cars and Dying light are 1080P.

EDIT: I don't people to get mislead the X1 can't do it. But it is troublesome its 50 50 at the moment and not constant.

The All in one vision was indeed a sacrifice of sorts.

[TIER1xWOLFPACKx]

There's also a RUMOUR going around that dying light on xb1 isn't running at 1080p

[mediate-this]

Yeah micro should have went with a more powerful approach

[DigitalHope]

A few yes! Tomb Raider is 1080p on both systems, difference is 60 fps vs 30 fps.

The question is can X1 run 1080p at 60 fps? I don't think it's happened yet. I'm hoping they can achieve it and I'm sure it will happen down the road.

MS needs to clean up the OS and make it consume less resources and then I've sure X1 will hit that benchmark.

[Hercules189]

We will just have to wait til their first party devs to take advantage of it. Halo is confirmed to be at 60 fps and I'm pretty sure they're aiming to go for graphics of the year again if Quantum Break doesnt do it. We shouldnt judge what a console is capable of from a 3rd party dev, they can put out amazing looking games but because they have to focus on all platforms they have a little trouble using the potential of all consoles

[imt558]

Quote :

"The question is can X1 run 1080p at 60 fps? I don't think it's happened yet. I'm hoping they can achieve it and I'm sure it will happen down the road.

MS needs to clean up the OS and make it consume less resources and then I've sure X1 will hit that benchmark..."

In future memory footprint for OS will be shrinked. But OS is not the problem.

Problem is eSRAM---->DDR3, bigger problem is weak GPU - 16 ROP's vs. PS4's 32.

ROP's are the main reason for resolution. So, Xbone has 50% less. In Xbone's case, if you want to achive 1080p ( with a 30fps at least ), you must sacrifice AA, lightnings etc. In Forza 5, there was a massive downgrades to achieve 1080p/60 fps :

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[DigitalHope]

Thanks for the clarification imt

Hopefully they have a way to make it happen down the road, doesn't seem hopeful though does it.

Long live console gaming.

[BX81]

I agree, I think it's gonna take a little while longer before the devs get things going on the Xbox one. I think halo5 will be the first game to be 1080p and 60fps as far big games go.

[SITH]

It is clearly an optimization issue. Games that are optimized to run on Xbox one hardware like turn 10's Forza 5 proves the xbox one is capable of 1080p 60FPS. Forza 5 was made from day one for Xbox one hardware and that shows. The question is will developers invest in new software capable of running on Xbox one to utilize the hardware better. I am hoping games like the division will perform equally well as the PS4 version. The ps4 has consistently proven to be able to meet frame rate and resolution expectations proving it has a cohesive hardware software relationship.

[MRMagoo123]

@sith

All forza proves is that to get a game running at 1080p with 60fps , they have to make A LOT of sacrifices. The xbone will be getting games at 720p with 30fps up to 60fps way more often than it gets any games at 1080p at 60fps, and I am guessing that the 1080p games will be last gen ports mostly as well.

[Harra]

Lol the difference if you care to read. 1080p averaging 55fps on ps4, xboxone 1080p averaging 45 FPS. Don't spread fud. Now where is that 50% powahhhh again ?

[Unspoken]

So true Harra. These kids are trying to justify their purchase because they were beaten so badly last gen, even though the PS3 sold well and had some great games, but they are acting like it was a piece of junk.

[UncleGermrod]

Of course and there already is a good handful. Problem is that for xbox one to hit 1080, they seem to have to dial back the framrate, so games like ghosts etc. push for 720/900 instead.

I am willing to bet that multiplats will begin to hit 1080p for xb1, but that will be the exception and not the rule. 1st/2nd party games will absolutely hit 1080/60 but that is because they have only one console to work on and they can spend the extra time working with the eSRAM and such.

I am not computer scientist, but I am willing to bet it's not the gpu holding back xb1 (yet) and instead the ram configuration. Devs have an easier time hitting 1080p/60 on ps4 and then prob port to the xb1 and do not have the time/experience to get the full potential out of the eSRAM.

[imt558]

Quote :

"xb1 and do not have the time/experience to get the full potential out of the eSRAM..."

DDR3 is the problem and it will always be.

http://i.imgur.com/N3iMLE1....

[mmj]

DDR3/ESRAM is a problem but the GPU is the main bottleneck, your diagram should have the Xbone tap about 40% smaller.

AMD themselves agree that for 1080P you need 32 ROPS (which PS4 has), whereas Xbone has only 16.

Once developers start really pushing the graphics Xbone will have an even harder time reaching 1080P.

[FGHFGHFGH]

I think the gpu is the problem. GPU = graphics processing unit. PS4 has something like 50% more graphics processing power. That is a big difference. The memory might be a problem too though.

[awesomeisjayell]

theres already games in 1080p 60fps Forza 5,Fifa 13, NBA 2k14 and Madden 14 so its more than possible devs will learn the architecture in due time.

[jgrigs09]

It seems like this year, there won't be. I don't think they have announced what quantum Break will be. But I think Halo 5 is set to be 1080p 60fps. It seems like multi-platform games are having issues, but hopefully after awhile that issue will be fixed.

[Chupa-Chupa]

so f'n what?

[Snookies12]

1080p is um, kind of important... Sure it's not a deal breaker if a game doesn't run native 1080, but it's something that games need to strive for. Clarity is important after all.

[bennissimo]

If 1080p doesn't improve gameplay, then it's not as important as people think it is.

I'd rather an uglier game that plays better than a prettier game that plays worse.

[Snookies12]

I said it's an important thing to strive for. Of course gameplay comes before anything else. I'm just saying, people shouldn't shrug it off as being something they don't care about.

[ramiuk1]

1080p is alot better imo,
the draw distance is clearer,more imersive due to it being finer detail all over.

easiest way to compare is on a pc where u can adjust the resolution and there is defo a noticable difference

[FGHFGHFGH]

@ bennissimo

What about the same game? Having better graphics is not going to make the same game play worse.

[Bolts-N-Rays1109]

So f'n what?? The cheaper console can output a higher resolution than the more expensive one. That's f'n what.

[yewles1]

According to the rumor last year, X1 would be 720p while PS4 would be 900p. We'll see what happens...

[DEEBO]

Not again ,well that settles it,every muliplatform will be on my ps4.Remote play and games just preform better.
I will just buy MS only games for my x1.voice commands can be done on both systems.

[Virus201]

The rumor is false.

https://twitter.com/atPeteD...

[pyramidshead]

Jesus, someone should start taking bets on which game is next for the comparisons chop!

[Why o why]

Boi, camp x1 cant catch a break right about now.

[pompombrum]

That's what they get for putting so many of their eggs in the Kinect basket at the expense of making a future proof system.

[jmac53]

Destiny!

[matrixman92]

here we go again....again

[Bolts-N-Rays1109]

Another bad sign for the XB1...

[TheRedButterfly]

Only if you believe the majority of the garbage that N4G approves.

http://n4g.com/news/1444035...

[Activemessiah]

There's a pattern developing here...

[TheRedButterfly]

The pattern is that PS fanboys will latch onto everything/anything that states that the PS4 is in any way superior to any other platform.

Here's the /real/ story. http://n4g.com/news/1444035...

[XabiDaChosenOne]

lol I hope you read the update on the article you posted :-)

[mmc-007]

lmao, did you check the update of that link?

[MightyNoX]

Hnh...interesting.

[ichdich]

Who cares? We got Titanfall.

[Bolts-N-Rays1109]

I think I'm just going to buy Titanfall for 360 now. Maybe by the time Halo is out, I'll be able to justify the $500 price tag.

[pyramidshead]

So do the people who own Xbox 360s and/or PCs, which could be in the hands of potential PS4 owners. :)

MS should have definitely kept Titanfall exclusive to XB1 and XB1 alone.

[Ricegum]

I think they need it to sell well so they had to release it on multiple platforms, which is great for people like me who don't want to buy an Xbox One :)

[WeAreLegion]

Everybody has Titanfall. Source engine. Super easy to run. An off-the-shelf PC or laptop could run something on low-mid with integrated cards.

EVERYBODY has Titanfall.

[MysticStrummer]

Yeah this is why I shake my head when people call TF a system seller. A game on three platforms isn't much a system seller to start with, and when it's visuals are this easy to achieve that lessens the system seller effect even more.

[Ezz2013]

it's on pc too
not xbox exclusive

and believe it or not
i don't care about this game one bit and won't even buy it on pc

[elmaton98]

I was thinking about buying it on PC but I already have call of duty(which is not much of a difference in fact, I think, is the same game so ill pass).

[SoulSercher620]

It's on PC too. PS players can still play it on there. You lose.

[Harmy666]

No, that the thing people don't understand, the consumer is never the "loser", no matter what platform you have. There is never a "loser" when it comes to manufacturing companies, just one that is doing better than the other. Which, in return, is GREAT for consumers.

It's the way the gaming market works, and it's the reason why it's my favorite market.

Without the Xbox One, the Playstation 4 would be shafting all of its consumers, same goes with the Xbox One, if the Playstation 4 didn't exist.

[T2]

U should care, titanfall is one game unless you plan to play it for 7 years

[illustratedDEO]

Rephrase"Who care's we got TitanCOD".(0_O)sit and wait(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

[ZeoN]

Chocolate with raisins mhmm disgusting

[DoggyBiscuit]

That goes to show u the PS4 is a beast of a machine

[lonelyplayer]

Opps i down voted you by mistake. Sorry

[bumnut]

A beast? A bit too early to confirm that, but it is definatley better than Xbox.

[DaBeatSpecialist]

....And here we go again. lol

[Whiskeyjacked87]

How will PR spin this? I would like to see another button added other than agree and disagree. People disagree with facts when they should be clicking on a button that fits the bill of "this comment bothers me because I'm a fan of a certain console" but what could we call the button?

[SnakeCQC]

madame sessler and the rest of the bought reviewers will come to the aid of the xb1 as always

[jmac53]

There should be a 5 stages of denial button so the xbox fanboys can let everyone know what stage they are in. I think there would be a lot of "Acceptance" clicks.

[MysticStrummer]

If they ask Penello about it, he'll bring up Ryse.

[Master-H]

lol

[SoulSercher620]

"People disagree with facts when they should be clicking on a button that fits the bill of "this comment bothers me because I'm a fan of a certain console" but what could we call the button?"

The butthurt button.

[IIZANGETSUII]

So? We all know the Xbox One is a weaker console, and Thief, well LOL

[Sm00thNinja]

Sad really looks like ill only be getting exclusives on Xbone. This is actual saddening and rather annoying that Microsoft is just kicking back with no good ñews or big announcements. The Xbone is in the same state it was at launch minus 13 gigs from that dead rising update

[ThePope]

It launched 8 weeks ago. What are you hoping for?

[kingdip90]

Probably the xbox one update that will increase the power of the console to above that of the ps4 that mrxmedia keeps waffling on about.

He shouldn't hold his breath.

[Sm00thNinja]

Ummm some announced exclusives? Sony has came with a few heavy hitters! Maybe an update to fix the so so voice recognition? Can I see my hdd space please? I love my xbone but give me something to look forward to Microsoft!

[ThePope]

Announced exclusives?!? Halo 5 and Titanfall are going to be huge for the One. Also it's January these companies don't talk about a lot till spring, the lead up to E3. Sony hasn't announced a bunch of exclusives.

OT unlike the Sony fanboy sheep around here I don't go into Sony threads and comment. But I do look at them and the fanboys have their heads so far up Sonys behind that what ever they announce is gold.

For instance there was a thread that was talking about a new AU ad campaign. And from the comments you would think Sony just said that system was free! I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were crying based on some of the comments. It's hilarious!

The best part is Somy has done NOTHING. They don't have that many games out, or announced for this year. All they have is a system that multi plats look slightly better! A bunch of morons.

[Sm00thNinja]

I actually half agree with you on those points!

[MadSientist89]

make it stop make it stop.. sobbing

[Robearboy]

i didnt see this much bitching when the more expensive "superior" ps3 was having its arse handed to it by the cheaper "inferior" xbox 360 - No wonder xbox fans on here have no bubbles, the Sony fans are borderline venomous and quite pathetic, its quite sad really as gamers should unite and celebrate the fact that we can play all of these wonderful games on many different platforms

[denero1]

All i've ever owned was sony consoles and even im disgusted by the level of sony fanboys here -_-

the fanboys on three sides doesn't work for n4g the xbox fans and pc fans here do not and cannot touch sony fans -_- so please don't say its equal cause on n4g it's not

I'm happy sony is doing well and the fans should be as well but to kick somebody when their down which is what sony fans do is pretty low

[deadfrag]

Fanboys are venomous and quite pathetic on the three sides PC included but that dont change the fact that regarding to consoles the PS4 is the most powerfull and capable console of next generation in hardware, full stop!Not to mention cheaper!

[Robearboy]

So what if one machine is slighly more powerful, if everything was the same, things would get boring quite quickly, there as always been one console "more powerful" than its competitors in every Gen but how did that work out for the 3DO or the Atari Jaguar? It all depends on the games and thats the bottom line

[Chase51]

Once I get ps4 it will definitely be my main console of choice! I'll just get exclusives on my xbone that's it

[denero1]

Amazing I didn't know so many n4g users cared about thief with all the recently ignored articles. . . ohhh or is it just a chance at taking a stab at xbox one that's getting this particular article so much heat

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http://n4g.com/news/1443708...

http://n4g.com/news/1443366...
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poor articles should have focused on resolution instead of gameplay
.....
update let me add the third neglected thief article focusing on game play

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http://n4g.com/news/1443937...
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[LexHazard79]

Ok I see where your coming from with this. So I guess N4G is just anti Xbox! To bad but hey everyone has the right to an opinion and to like whatever system they like. Does anyone know of any other gaming sites that are not so biased towards one system? This shit gets annoying pretty quick!

[denero1]

Oh you have the right to an opinion but constantly going over the same thing again and again

yes the ps4 is killing in sales and specs microsoft slipped up and got cocky

but you guys realize that your not hurting microsoft your only creating a rift between gamers and making a fun environment hostile

let gamers enjoy their choice my cousin has a Wii U I personally think it's lacking in alot of departments but never do I call him out on it because he loves it

[LexHazard79]

@denero...

Im on your side of the gamerhood bro..so it hurt me when you said "you guys". Thats what I just said that the fanboy war on this site sucks. I need to find another site where gamers can just give opinion without all the bullshiet that comes with commenting on this site. I like the GameInformer site and someone mentioned Neogaf.

[LexHazard79]

Some people make to much of these frame rates and resolution. There has always been a console more powerful than the other since before xbox one and ps4. So I dont Understand all this resogate thing. As a gamer does it really matter? I want a PS4, Xbox One and WiiU just because I love to game not for which one is more powerful. Or which one has 1080p or 720p. Having awseome graphics and framerates is great but not the end of world for me if it doesnt!

[captain_slow82]

if other news http://www.lensoftruth.com/ has gone of the radar wonder why that is? lmao

we all know the ps4 hardware is better than the xbox one fanboys need to see it and move on.

[MasterCornholio]

I wonder why they haven't started the comparisons yet between PS4 and Xbox One multiplats.

[captain_slow82]

i know rite there the lens of the so called truth rite so why have they shut up shop?

must be cloud issues who knows lol

[Max-Zorin]

This again?

[hkgamer]

dont think the gap in performance between the xbone and ps4 will change. since the architecture is very similar, the techniques to help xbone run more efficiently will probably benefit the ps4 aswell.

[SpinalRemains138]

Xbox One doesn't do 1080p, PERIOD. (Is putting the actual '.' after the word period, redundant?)

We must all ask ourselves WWPD. What would Panello do?

[Hicken]

His best dreidel impersonation, I'd wager.

[AnEwGuY]

Forza 5 is 1080p AND 60fps...so no.

[Bill_Willson_CIA]

yeah but the graphic are not like they showed on E3.

[AnEwGuY]

LOL...no, they're better. That was alpha footage at E3.

[GamingNerd013]

I can tell you why it's 1080P at 60fps cause no day and night no weathers less tracks cars and much more. Sad how people fail to see FM5 is a shit game and not that of a good looking game. Hell that dumb game ryse looks way better then FM5 and it's a 900P game. Anyway I'm so happy I own a PS4 as I can enjoy the best 3rd party games and exclusives on PS4.

[mmj]

They also drew the shadows on the road instead of having dynamic lighting/shadows.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Forza 6 is 720P/60fps.

[dansdooz]

As an xbox owner and user of xbox live with most of my friends it really is disappointing to hear all of these games failing to hit 1080p on xb1 but hitting it on ps4, i dont know why people say it doesnt matter because it does big time. I really want all my gaming on one machine but im seriously considering a pc, it seems never a good day to be an xb1 owner, ive just bought a projector and anything sub 1080p is quite noticeable on that. Really hoped ms would release some better drivers to the devs but it seems the xb1 will always have the inferior ports :-(

[xTheMercenary_]

i myself just bought an xbox one, im truly disappointed that even the xbox one cant hit the resolution of 1080p. hopefully microsoft can free up that 10% gpu power the kinect is using soon so that developers are able to use it and hopefully hit that resolutions gamers want

[mmj]

Going from 720P to 1080P (over twice the pixels) or 30fps to 60fps (twice the fps) needs a massive amount more GPU power, 10% just won't cut it I'm afraid.

An extra 10% in Tomb Raider would bump Xbone up to about 33fps (as opposed to 30fps).

[skoorydook]

I agree all the poking at the X1 having the slightly inferior 3rd party games is getting a bit tiresome, but the MS fanboys can't really moan about it as they spent around 8 years acting like it was the most important thing in the world.

[DanielGearSolid]

Honestly thats why I love seeing these articles

I'm not one to get in fanboy skirmishes but what I saw last gen was cocky 360 fans boasting about ALOT of the things they claim don't matter anymore

I really don't care about peace between gamers or unity because that's all BS. In every industry rival fanbases quarrel. Its the ones that pretend they want the rivalry to end once they start losing that are the real cowards

[Thepharaoh]

Which xbox fanbohys though. Simply because a bunch of them did does not mean all of them did.

And besides two wrongs don't make a right

In fact you would think that any ps3 fanboy who felt bad back in the day would see it from an xbots point of view and show mercy not simply spread the ignorance.

[skoorydook]

I get what your saying and personally I didn't care about the minor differences last gen, had a PS3 and a 360, don't care about it this gen have a PS4 now and plan to get an X1 at some point this year.

But can imagine how annoying it must have been for a PS3 only owner having to listen to it for every major 3rd party game for almost a decade.

[Thepharaoh]

It was most likely annoying especially when you consider the differences were far lesser then than they are now.

However seeing a ps4 fanboy victimize themselves and antagonize the xbots that criticized them ages ago

Only so they can immediately act like the exact people they didn't care for then is total hypocrisy.

Not to mention the shift in motives.Half the people on this site didn't care about thief or call of duty ghosts until they could use them to make fun of the opposing faction. It only strengthens the lack of and real meaning to their words

[starchild]

It's actually worse than that. Last generation Sony fanboys were always claiming the PS3 was more powerful and had better games and they did the same thing they do this generation: flood into articles and bash the other platforms. They weren't the innocent little victims they are trying to make themselves out to have been.

So is it any wonder that the Xbox fanboys reacted the way they did? When they were constantly being told that their console was inferior (and this started right from the beginning) and it turned out many multiplats were better on their supposedly inferior console of course they were going to point it out.

But I honestly never saw 10 articles on the same game, each with many dozens or hundreds of comments from fanboys bashing the console with the weaker version. There was no resolution-gate BS.

If anything was a scandal it should have been the situation last gen. The PS3 was billed as the more powerful console, yet time and time again it looked and performed worse on multiplatform games.

Contrast that with the situation we have today. The XB1 is accepted to be the weaker console by the vast majority of gamers, but the fanboys still want to blow up each multiplat difference into a full blown scandal.

It shows the difference between the two camps. The Xbox fanboys had plenty of reasons to do what the Sony fanboys are doing now, since the PS3 was claimed by Sony and nearly every Sony fanboy as being the stronger console, yet it did worse on multiplatform games. But that's not what happened. They didn't try to make a full blown scandal out of each and every multiplat.

On the other hand, the XB1 is accepted as the weaker of the two consoles by the vast majority of gamers, yet the Sony guys want to take each and every opportunity to make a huge fuss and bash the XB1 nonstop.

It's completely out of all proportion. What happened last generation and what is happening this generation are not really comparable at all.

[MasterCornholio]

This is getting ridiculous.

:(

[Gooch_suplex_Hold]

Here.We.Go

[dansdooz]

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[Lucreto]

I wonder if the reason the Xbox is behind is because Sony had the spec finalised far earlier than Microsoft. The next round might be better optimised.

[mmj]

They're behind because they ruled out GDDR5 and went with slower DDR3, fitted some ESRAM to boost said DDR3, then realised they only had enough room on die for a small GPU that is not really capable of 1080P.

The fact that Xbone is much slower goes back to the hardware design/selection stage, there's nothing software can do about that.

[BanginBiscuitz]

I have every X1 title including Tomb raider now. Only 2 games i dont have are Fifa and Madden, and let me tell you the graphics on every single game i have look phenomenal. Ryse looks absolutely beautiful and so does Forza. Multiplats such as AC4, COD, Tomb raider, and NBA 2k14 look gorgeous. This 900p-1080P arguement is pointless when the games look this good. I play on a 55 inch LED smart tv and i have no complaints at all when it comes to how these games visually appeal.

[cell989]

still tho, for the same money Im getting 1080P on PS4 fully taking advantage of my 1080P big screen and dat frame rate is king

[MasterCornholio]

Me too.

:)

[hello12]

As a x box fan and x box 1 user resolution does matter, especially online. Its easier to spot players on a map when a game is running at 1080p .

I prefer x box 1 though, but i am getting a PS4 before Christmas. If i wasn't saving for a PC i likely would have got one already.

The most impressive thing about the PS4 is not GPU or CPU, its the 8 gigs of GDDR5 the memory of the PS4 is impressive.

Microsoft went with ESRAM, because of its OS, its is superior to the PS4 OS, but unfortunately picking ESRAM has effected the way the xb1 will perform.

[ambientFLIER]

Are there going to be ten articles every time there is some difference between the two platforms? Give me a damn break. Enough with this already.

[kenshiro100]

Not surprised.

[--bienio--]

Dont care I got my Pc and Im happy Its not my problem😃

[PaleMoonDeath]

Years on the PS3 games were inferior, now that things have changed rather dramatically, I know how annoying it is to hear this news seeing as PS gamers were dealt the weaker multiplat's, the generation is early, bounce onto PS4.

[cell989]

here we go again.... more proof Xbones drivers are yet to be updated to support full 1080P on heavily tasked games

[noctis_lumia]

dude....THA cloudzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

lol

[kingdip90]

Articles like this one are a good thing. Flame wars aside it's important for Consumers to know what value they are getting for their investment. You should buy whatever product holds more value to you.

If you like the idea of the all in one entertainment device approach then buy into that but if your focus is games and them looking as good as possible then your choice is becoming more and more obvious.

Speaking to the Xbox ones rumored software update to improve performance so it can run games at better resolutions if that comes about then people who have had to play games at lower resolutions up to now may feel robbed... This shouldn't have been an issue to begin with.

[staticdash22]

You should know by now that that's BS. A software update cannot make up for the deficiencies in hardware. The Xbox One has approximately 33% less CUs than PS4. It's using DDR3 which is slower memory than GDDR5.

Xbox One can run games at 1080p, but extreme concessions would be made. Look at what games are 1080 already. Sports games, & racing games. Those games need only to render the players and a linear area around them. There is no continuous stream of data like open world games, or off road gameplay like the crew.

[wwarren19]

Microsoft should of went the intel/nvidia rought for the XB1.

[psDrake]

I am 100% certain that there will be no sales difference between XBOX1 and PS4.

I have repeatedly mentioned that the average consumer/gamer do not know the difference and won't care.

Xbox One can certainly handle 1080p/ 60fps but developers are on strict deadlines so it's safe to assume that they just do not have enough time to optimize the game on X-Box one.

If this continues, and I bet it won't Xbox sales might take a small hit but I am pretty sure Microsoft will do everything they can to ensure that the customers are getting the best version of the games.

And I have a ps4 :)

[kingdip90]

If that were the case and Microsoft wanted to ensure the best possible experiences with their games don't you think they would prefer games developers to push back their deadlines to guarantee 1080p/60fps?

How come ps4 isn't hurt by these deadline restrictions?

[noctis_lumia]

cause this time ms is the studios b1tch
and not the other way around with the 360

and there is no excuses this time..the ps4 piss the xbone all over very easily in terms of power
exclusives games,studios,network,controle r and ofc design

[e-p-ayeaH]

lmao way to go xbox one.

[noctis_lumia]

poor xbone players must suck all your multi games will run at 30fps aye?

5-6 years u laughed for the ps3 ports now its sony turn
the wheel always turn around ms fangirls...dont forget that.

[hello12]

We know the PS4 is more powerful, its not as if this hasn't been known about since May 2013.

People are buying the xb1 because of the extra features like hdmi out, been able to watch tv, the improved UI with snap, skype, dedicated servers and so. Its not going to change. People are going to buy the xb1 for there own reasons.

The xb1 has games the PS4 hasn't,and vice versa. I think Sony fans expect every gamer to want the same thing as they do, but your living in a fantasy world if you believe that.

Thief is running 900p xb1 and PS4 is running 1080p if you want 1080p games go with PS4, simple.

Can the x box one never achieve it, well i can't say for sure, because its really early days in the console cycle.

[MasterCornholio]

"We know the PS4 is more powerful, its not as if this hasn't been known about since May 2013."

You were one of the many Xbox fans that latched onto Mr. Xs claims of a DGPU system in the Xbox One. All it took was several multiplats to convince you that you were wrong. I'm glad you finally admit that there are differences between the two and I'm happy that you bought an Xbox One to play Microsoft exclusives and to watch TV.

P.S The Xbox One plays multiplats as well but you know what the case is with multiplats on the Xbox One.

[TristanPR77]

Honestly I feel sorry for xbone owners. Paying $500 for this? Wow

[MCTJim]

why is it at hopefully? I just dont get that mentality.

[FGHFGHFGH]

I think it just means it got more yes votes. Not that people are hoping for it.

[DJustinUNCHAIND]

Why did this get voted as "hopefully"?

You people are sad.

[Mikey94]

Wasn't it said along time ago it was going to be 1080p 30fps

[D-riders]

ok so now im really starting to wonder with the lower resolution and lower graphic fidelity are people just buying an xbox one because they are fans or for kinect 2? because if you are a gamer is really is not making sense to own an xbox 1 when the games look worse play worse and has no truly separation from the 360 ps3 versions

[francisjairam16]

Not again....

[corvusmd]

Look at all the PS Trolls...are there no games to play on PS4 right now or something? A RUMOR gets posted, and all the sudden it's flooded with talks of "fact" ...MAYBE this will pan out to be true, but all that has been proven by this talk over and over is that it doesn't matter....PERIOD. Games in motion on XB1 look just as good as they do on PS4, whether they are upscalled or not. Unless you freeze-frame side by side...you won't ever notice a difference. The hardware upscallers this gen work really well. TRUE the PS4 has a more powerful GPU, and on a handful of games so far we have seen this make a difference....on paper. But the more fanboys scream and yell about paper specs that don't actually translate to better gameplay or actual visuals (being as Ryse is STILL the best looking next gen game), the more it just looks like insecure slander. GPU IS the one area where PS4 has an advantage...admitted!...but in every other area...games, controller, innovation, network, etc...PS4 is NOT better by any means...which is why these fanboys (not gamers) wish to keep beating that dead horse that is the one area where PS4 is "better". If you're a TRUE gamer, you'd look at it objectively and see that by whining about resolution and framerate that never actually show up to make a difference in the final product...you're just missing out on great games and an awesome gaming experience on XB1....

CHILL OUT...you aren't winning anything...you're losing by being so biased. There has NEVER been a second where I felt like playing on my XB1 was a chore, or that it sucked...every game I've played looks great and runs well (except for the glitches in BF4 that go across ALL platforms). Admittedly I cancelled my PS4 preorder till they rack up games I want to get, then I'll get one most likely...until then I see games on PS4s when I go to my friends house (he has both). Games like COD and Tombraider make me realize that all this chest-beating means nothing. Sure, COD has a higher native res, but you can't tell compared to the upscaled XB1 version...however one of the biggest MP games of all times doesn't have dedicated server support on PS4...so there is more to just resolution that makes games fun. Sure, every game at 1080p 60fps is great (until the next jump up), but really as gamers we need to take a step back and look at how spoiled we are...it's seriously getting to the point where games look so good, it doesn't really matter anymore....fanboys are acting like we are comparing PS4 to NES or something...the gap is NOT as huge as people want to pretend it is.

Let's just get back to enjoying games...and stop trying to be game Nazi's that tell other people they are "having fun wrong"

[SpideySpeakz]

MS better come with some damn good exclusives because the multiplat section isn't looking so good compared to the competitor.

[static360]

and thus the rumor mill starts and the resolution argument starts again

[Lenns]

Why does games not run 1080p on X1? I never understood why.

[Flames76]

Its Thief so who cares?Yet the game will still look better on the X1.Just like Battlefield 4 looks better on the X1 and Ryse is the best looking game out right now period.Nothing on the PS4 can touch it thats for sure.So i guess its good the PS4 can do a game in 1080p?

[OldDude]

Its obvious and I concede that my XB1 doesn't match my PS4. I prefer the build quality of the XB over my PS4 but the games are obviously going to run and look better on the PS. MS is now in the same spot Sony was 4 years ago with the PS3 and they are going to have to make up for the hardware shortcomings with not good, but fantastic games that are the quality of Sony's studios. They will have to put them out frequently and push for higher quality than Sony. Sony flat out smoked MS the last three years of the PS3/360 generation. They tried harder, put out quality games, improved their online network, gave an excellent value with PS+ and more. MS rested on its laurels obviously lost in the concept of being everything media with the XB1. Very soon every mom that goes to Best Buy or GameStop will ask the clerk which system she wants for little Johnny, and they will recommend the PS4 hands down. If that happens, MS has already lost the battle. They will never catch up.

[Bill_Willson_CIA]

Well the multiplat seems to be equal or better on PS4.Xbox have a better Exclusive line up for now(and i say this as a PS owner/fanboy).What sony need to do now is start to announce the First party projects and release dates.If this happens,PS4 will be the new PS2(the definitive console).

[Deathdeliverer]

Personally I paid a pretty penny for every television in my house. I would like my devices that use them to use them to their fullest potential. Yeah it doesn't increase the gameplay per Se, but there have been games where, with the resolution difference, I have claimed some long range kills. The likes of which people say I was just a dot on the horizon. It's clarity. Same as my surround sound. I couldn't imagine a system not supporting it's codecs.

[ELCUCO]

Dat article bump!

[b777conehead]

MariaHelFutura did Microsoft hurt you are something. your hate for Microsoft is so strong.

[Blacklash93]

At what point are we just going to accept this as the norm and not post dozens of articles about one particular game looking better on the superior hardware? This is likely how it's going to be this entire generation. We have several other examples like this and it's not surprising anymore.

[TheCelticGeek]

I've been playing games most of my life and I've been working in the industry as a programmer now for nearing 8 years and what is happening right now makes me so sad. It seems the only thing people care about (on this site at least) is the number of pixels on the screen and not what those pixels show.

This isn't about the games anymore and I hope that this trend doesn't continue as it could have a bad effect on the industry as a whole, an industry that I love.

Judge the games on what should matter, the game-play. I'm not saying visuals don't add something to the game-play but it's more the art direction and style that add to the game not the number of pixels.

[mmj]

If Xbone had been significantly cheaper I doubt there would be as much furore about it, I think what winds a lot of people up is Microsoft's arrogance in that they think they can sell a lower specced console for more and just keep all of their customers in a state of blissful ignorance via blatant lies

[TheCelticGeek]

You're probably right, people see the price point and look at headlines like this I can't see how the two match up.

Personally I think though it depends on what you consider value for money. Basically whether you think Kinetic is worth it and whether you feel you will benefit with the amount of money Microsoft has invested into their online network. (Though live gold will make some of that, if you don't use live gold you still benefit with the smooth updates etc).

[JohnKenway]

Its becoming more and more apparent how different in power these consoles are!

[strigoi814]

i think 720p at 60fps would be safe for XB1

[beatled]

it'll be 1600p for me

pc ftw!!!

[Harra]

For whoever was wondering how x1 will cope with unreal engine 4 as it's struggling with 3. It will be fantastic because X1 was custom designed with NEW game engines in mind which is why this 3rd party stuff will make a few people embarrassed very soon.

[WickedLester]

So according to your logic, gaming engines designed to be LESS taxing on hardware run worse on Xbox 1 than engines designed to be MORE taxing on hardware? LOL!

[spoonard]

At this point, why do people even expect the Xbone to run a game in 1080p??

[cruzngta]

Major Nelson to Xbone command central "Get the Indian Chief out there dancing NOW!!! We need more CLOUD Powah cuz PS4 is making us look real bad right now!!!" Phil Spencer chimes in as the Chief starts his little jig, "Dude they need to just play the game and not the resolution" This is getting to be more and more of a pain in the ass for Xbone owners who truly like their console and want to feel good about the third party efforts for their machine. Unfortunately once again for whatever reason it is (Krazy Cloud Powah not enuff, ESRAM bottleneck, or just inferior GPU specs) this is just getting more and more irritating for the Xbone camp. WHERE is this miracle update to free up the rumored 10% power? Or the graphic driver update? If something isn't done soon MS is going to aggravate even the most diehard fans they have because no one likes to know they spent more money on a product they truly believed in that is just not capable of delivering the same or better experience than their competitor. PS4 is a beast of a machine and very well thought out. The results are speaking for themselves. If you argue that fact then you are delusional. PS4 1080p/60 fps is becoming more and more the norm it seems while Xbone is getting the 720p shaft.

[NeloAnjelo]

Nicely summed up. More money for an inferior machine. How are these things still selling?

[Adolph Fitler]

"This isn't about the games anymore and I hope that this trend doesn't continue as it could have a bad effect on the industry as a whole, an industry that I love."

Yes, well you can't have been too interested in the industry & love it that much, if your only now just discovering that console wars, & fanboys on dedicated sides exist...They have been around since the Sega/Nintendo days my friend....And if your too silly to realize that casuals DO NOT CARE & Can't even tell the difference between 780p-900p or 1080p, or 30fps compared to 60fps, then you really must learn more about an industry you claim to love & work in...Casuals are 80-90% of this market, that means the BIGGEST chunk of gamers will never know whether there new COD, BF, Madden, Fifa, or whatnot has slight frame rate issues, or visual imperfections....and the rest are either too brand loyal to care or just prefer the controller, exclusives and/or other features of a particular system...Simple as that.

Everyone knows though, that MS is the wart on the backside of gaming & if they left the business tomorrow, & were replaced by another, the only ones that could possible be worse for gamers is Apple.
Glad I got a PS4 to join my Wii-U...That's the best combo for gamers this gen, without question.

[TheCelticGeek]

Of course the majority of the industry is made up of casual gamers that will never care about the differences in the consoles at a frame rate/resolution level and that is absolutely great. It's the fans on these dedicated websites that make me sad (not all of them but the fanboys that just seem to be desperate for anything they can use to attack the other side, and will just make stuff up to do so).

Also, Microsoft is not the wart on this industry, far from it. They contribute a huge amount to this industry. Among other things console online gaming wouldn't be anywhere near as good as it is today if it wasn't for them.

Each company in this industry brings something different to the table and if any of them were replaced/left it would have a huge impact on the industry in a negative way.

[WickedLester]

I disagree with you about MS and what they contribute. With the exception of Live, I feel that they contribute NOTHING to this industry. They are a parasite that is more interested in the almighty "all in one" living room takeover box. As a result, their jack of all trades approach and insistence that everybody must have that damn camera, it has resulted in a poorly designed system in terms of games performance goes and sold at a more expensive price.

At least Sony designed their machine with gaming performance as the top priority and gave gamers the option whether to own the camera or not.

[norman123]

without MS kicking PS3 butt in the early years, PS4 is not what it is today. Sony refocuses on "for gamers" is because of competition from MS, not Nintendo, Apple, samsung, or others.

you should be thankful of MS for your PS4.

PS3 fiasco in the early years was the result of arrogance created by dominant PS2 earlier.

[TheCelticGeek]

Xbox Live is a huge contribution though, even if it's the only one you consider they have made you have to admit it's worth it.

Sony has designed a machine to take advantage of the brute force performance of powerful components (especially the Ram), and that has been great for the industry, just like Microsoft and their approach.

Each company brings something different, using a different approach and it's great. I don't think you can call any of them a parasite really far from it. Microsoft will still push Live if nothing else (which will hopefully make the other companies push their online network).

[Adolph Fitler]

MS Fanboy: "Oh no, A Thief stole my others p's"

[ELpork]

Love it when a news story ends with a question mark.

[Ninte]

Lol and you lot just started another PS4 vs Xbox

[Tzuno]

and all of this because of that stupid antialiasing if you know what i mean.

[NeloAnjelo]

Does this surprise anyone?

[Kennytaur]

What a stupid headline.

[esemce]

I can see no reason why even the Xbone cannot hit 1080p with theif. What I find most surprising is that the game will not be 60fps as it is running on the Unreal 3 engine, to me the game looks dated maybe should of come out 4 years ago.

Technically it looks very basic by todays standards it has some very flat textures and the lighting does not seem very dynamic, I have not been impressed by anything I've seen of this game since it's reveal.

[MikeCash]

Another article on n4g bashing the xbox, what a surprise. You fanboys sound like a broken record. If you are happy that your system is more powerful and "better" than the xbox one than why you go out your to always bash it? It seems that you guys care more or think more about the xb1 than the ps4.

[NeoTribe]

Its only gonna get worst for the xbone. If it cant run games well now, what do you think is gonna happen when games become more demanding? Dem 16 rops!

[thexmanone]

The XB1 that I have runs games just fine. I haven`t came across a game that it wont run. What games don`t run well?

[air1]

We'll damn... I get that the ps4 has more power but jeez the xb1 really can't do 1080p at 60fps in other genres other than racing?

I'm not willing to accept that just yet maybe it's just that devs are finding it harder to do on the xb1 for now but even then that still confuses me because the xb1 hardware with edram or what ever it is, was an improved upgrade from the 360 and if that's the case then why are devs finding it harder? Or is it that Sony really did just flat out make an easier console to dev on with more power.

[Mr_Luke]

Sadness...

[The_devils_chum]

Yeat its crazy resolution qnd frame rate doesnt even matter. Lol the release of nearly every single multiplat will be embarasing for microsoft. Doesnt matter , give me a break. What if james cameron released avatar in standard definition? And when asked why he said it doesnt matter. Xb1 fans just believe everything, 1st ryse polygon count cut in half but not a graphical downgrade. Titanfall 6 v6 with bots, notbcause of hardware, really i seriously doubt that. Just saying.

[SliceOfTruth888]

Its amazing how stupid people are. There has not been a single game made for ps4 or xbone that even come close to using full potential. Look at perfect dark zero, haze or any garbage that was early on. Xbox one will have full 1080p once developers know how to use system and ps4 will gain too just like every other console in the history of video games. If you people think anything launched on ps4 or Xbox one is even remotely close to what games will look like in even 2 years well....you're fucking retarded...as you can tell I could care less about being banned

[Tzuno]

I saw Ryse and then i saw KZ4. Ryse graphics blows away that ps4 KZ4 with all that power,i mean the game looks stunning. power is nothing if you don't know how to use it.

[swice]

OH NO THIS GAME IS GOING TO SUCK ASS NOW

[Father__Merrin]

it's going to be 900p, Xbox fans are getting hit hard, I feel sorry for them as they are only trying to enjoy gaming like we all are

[mochachino]

Well, I bought ps4 so who cares. Xone owners knew it was less powerful so I assume they don't care that much either. I'm happy with my purchase.

[Justindark]

why do ppl care? its gona look the same and i love how the bar says hopefully kinda weird and um yeah again i dont see why this has such a high hotness score when its not even important news.