See How Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition Compares To PC Version At Ultra

GearNuke: "Tomb Raider is getting a sort of a upgrade, re-release on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. While Crystal Dynamics claims to have upgraded the graphics along with some character models, it remains to be seen how true their claims really are, especially with respect to the already graphically superior PC release."

[curtis92]

I do think D.E. looks better but it's certainly not a glaring difference. When you have to read which ones which, it's not too different.

[DarkLordMalik]

Textures are similar across the board but new Lighting definitely gives a more vibrant look.

Now if only they sold it at a budget price instead of a full retail release price.

[Kayant]

The thing I find interesting is the second pic with the blood. Why is the blood missing on the DE version? Like the guy on gaf pointed out it really shouldn't as it fits with the scene because you just came out of a pool of blood from head to toe.

[ProjectVulcan]

I know they claimed they had done lots of work on it, what they really mean is they ported the PC version over and tweaked it a bit. Even with some extra effects it seems it'll probably be cleaner on a good PC because it appears they are only using FXAA on the consoles.

They had enough time, the game will be virtually a year old when it arrives on the new consoles.

I am satisfied with playing the PC version on ultra a while back, don't think I am missing much.

I think unless you didn't play it last year, you should wait for the price to drop if you plan to get it for a new console.

[Ritsujun]

It'll eventually become free on PS+ anyway.

[wsoutlaw87]

I never picked up the origional so after hearing how much everyone liked it ill get this. The regular version didnt come out too long ago. Its not like an hd remake or something. I dont see a reason for a reduced price.

[guitarded77]

Yeah, looks good, but not $60 good. Hold your wallets guys. Don't let them set a $60 price tag on remakes this gen.

I can understand if you've never played the game, but if no one buys, the price will drop like a rock and get to the $40 it should be at launch.

[UltimateMaster]

I think it's always hard to compare anything on the Internet because a lot of times it's compressed.
But either way, better or equal don't justify the 60$ price for that game, maybe a completely new games yes, but not the game we've played.

[mewhy32]

the definitive version definitely compare favorably to the pc release. However, I can't really see paying full price for a game remake. I feel that 39-49 USD would have been a more fair price.

[JsonHenry]

So they changed the character models a little, got rid of PHSYX, and cleaned up the weapon models a tad bit while lowering the quality of AA but still want to charge $60? NO WAY!

[Ju]

They changed that quite a bit, like massively. The devil is in the detail. More than I thought, actually.

Lucky for them that there's a game drought on the PS4 and I feel very tempted getting this game (again). I might just throw my nerves away and get it...but $60 is something my rational side of my brain tells me isn't worth it.

But it looks sooo good...not sure if I can resist.

Hey, and you PC fanboys...get over it. It looks better than (last years) PC version. LOL

[decrypt]

@Ju

Must be fun getting a 400usd console for last gen games lol.

Since the new consoles have no games to play lol. Get the game Ju it will be perfect motivation for them to screw consolers over further, 60usd for remakes will become a trend. Just like charging for DLCs(BF4) you already paid for again lol.

[Skizelli]

@Kayant

I noticed that too. That detail was missing on the last-gen console versions as well. It's such a memorable scene in the game, it feels cheapened with the blood missing like that.

[electricbolt9000]

Honestly I prefer the more stylized version of Lara in the standard version with vibrant colors, then a washed out higher-res textured package that seeks visual realism and more human like characters. Lara Croft seems to have lost her sad like face expression and looks like a totally different person http://images.pushsquare.co...

Also the fact they removed the vivid blood stains from her clothes suggests they are toning down the violence and are aiming to a more +16 rated audience, which doesn't seem a very good idea as it ruins it's original concept and darker tone that gave this reboot an exciting new look and feel in the first place.

[Reibooi]

yeah I really don't like the way she looks in this version of the game. I loved the way she had a more stylized look in the original version. But now it just looks bad in my opinion. I like when a game tries to make it's own style and look a bit different(or alot different in some games) then everything else out there. Honestly I hope more people have a issue with it as well so they go back to the original style with the next game.

[Juiceid]

Exactly. Just like a movie that should clearly be rated r is only pg-13. More targeted audience of sissies in this world.

[Ju]

Maybe she's less whiny and more bad ass in that version. :)

[frostypants]

I dunno...I noticed the differences immediately. I only had to read which one was which because I was surprised at how much worse the textures were on the PC version. Hopefully they will release an update for the PC edition.

[MicDude]

Not going to happen. Crystal Dynamics said they are focusing on the console versions. Though, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody mods the PC version.

[showtimefolks]

will buy or rent it again but not at full price. Already beaten the game it was a very good reboot

single player story was on the short end of the stick so hopefully for sequels they will atleast try for that 15 plus hours mark

[MicDude]

I have to admit that the Definitive Version of the game does look a little than the PC version at the moment. I say at the moment because someone out there will make a mod for the game to make it look just as good if not better than the console version.

Point, Skyrim on consoles looks like garbage when compared to the PC version packed with texture and immersion mods.

Check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Ps4Console]

Pc wins hands down I think you'd better go to SpecSavers haha .

[SaturdayNightBeaver]

I love now how every console peasant knows what texture and lighting is but yesterday while they were playing at 720p and 256x256 texture they could not tell the difference between console and PC. LOL

[Walker]

wow looks way better than pc

[gtarhro7]

http://i.imgur.com/H8clR.gi...

[kingduqc]

If you take a look at the first Gif, the pc version look better imo.

I don't know man. 2560*1440 at 60 fps on pc for 7$ or 1080p version on console for 60$ hard choice hard choice lol

[Muerte2494]

depends on if the machine it's running is $400. I'm not talking about just the card. I mean everything including the monitor to display the 2560x1440. One word, doubtful. Like I mentioned countless times, PC brute force their games, console optimize them.

[xPhearR3dx]

Muerte2494

Did you really just include the price of a monitor with a PC while comparing it to the PS4? I guess Sony must be bundling TV's with their PS4's for $400 now then right?

[Sarcasm]

"PC brute force their games, console optimize them."

This is actually very true. Mostly because of the open nature of the PC platform.

If a developer actually optimized to the metal for something like a GTX 780, it will be 2-3 times more amazing than what we see today.

And costs are a big factor. Ain't no way a $400 PC will be able to play Tomb Raider at 1080p 60fps let alone 1440p 60fps.

[frostypants]

You guys are effing blind or you are getting the images backwards. The DE version looks FAR better. In case you were confused, the DE edition is the one that doesn't have blurry, undefined textures. You should be hoping that they bring these upgraded textures over to that PC version.

[Muffins1223]

Very true,dont know why you got disagrees,in no way is the pc version better other than 3D vision support and framrate.........

[Gamer1982]

Look at the screenshot with the blood on lara.. the shadows have blur on them a trick to save on RAM on the nex gen version and well.. Most of the blood is missing.. Guess to save on resources.. Either way if they added more stuff to consoles version you cant really compare to PC as PC has the capability to go higher it just has less textures. But if you wanna go as far as true superior.. Only one of the systems can play this game in 4K and i'll give you a hint.. MS and Sony don't make this system..

[Ju]

Shadows are limited by shadow map resolution and that is limited by only one factor: Amount of video memory. Neither next gen console has that problem.

[Deividas]

The hair does look better on the D.E. and lighting improved drastically but I think it still looks a litte better on PC with textures. Not a fan of that massive blood splatter....thats a lot of blood....

[Mr Tretton]

It's not blood 'splatter', if you played the game you'd know why she's covered in blood there.

[DejectedJeff]

Lol i remember when this was announced and console boys were so excited they got the 60 dollar 30 fps no 3D version of a game i can play at 1440p at 60 frames for a whopping 20 bucks

edit: look at the agrees and disagrees on the announcement xD
http://n4g.com/news/1414947...

[aksmashh]

1440p?????

Most console gamers play on tv set which are 1080p max, i dont get why pc gamers bring that up!!

[RevXM]

its almost like complaining over your songs only being in stereo sound when you listen with your minijack headphones.

Lets wait a few more years if a new generation of consoles will see the light of day they will be running 4K for most games as 4K tvs become normal/affordable.
Now at this time I would rather buy a another car than a 4K tv. Not that I could afford a another car but hopefully you guys catch my drift.

[Smelly1sam]

Do you not know about native resolutions? CoD plays around 600p on ps3/360 and there are currently barley any 1080p games even now for consoles. But most games are upscale to display correctly.

[Ju]

^^ I guess you got stuck in the last gen, unless you got an XBo, of course.

[Kennytaur]

And they didn't give a rats arse, because it's their decision to spend money on the re-release.

I hope those pixels and frames make you feel good about yourself, because it sounds like shameless bragging and self-justification to me. Have a nice day.

[PersonMan]

Good for you? I'm happy for you.

However, I don't have a PC, so console is my only choice.

[Sevir]

The new Lara Model isn't in the PC version, what's more several things were added to the PS4 and XBO version which were abscent from the the PC. Tress FX was carried over. What the PC version sports is better resolutions and frame rates but the definitive version on PS4 at least looks better! I didn't buy Tomb Raider last year, so I'll be all over it in 2 Weeks

[BattleTorn]

I didn't originally buy Tomb Raider either, and will undoubtably buy it this month.

I'm not very enthused about it, but what else is there.

[Deividas]

Wait a few months and get it at the price that it should be?

[PrinterMan]

I thought it was one of the best games last year. Played it through twice. Every once in a while I play for a bit still.

[Sevir]

BattleTorn. Its a pretty good game, played it at a friend's on his 360, it's just the game came out with many other big games, and I was already well into Them during that time. In fact I was gonna buy it used last year right before the announcement confirmed the DE version, so I figured it's a good time to enjoy Lara's Reboot when she's looking her best!

[morganfell]

I did buy it on PS3 and played it through twice and I am still slapping down $60 on day one for the DE version.

[morganfell]

Oh look, some people are disagreeing that I am going to buy it. Maybe pics will help. Talk about childlike anger...

[PFFT]

The exact same reason ill be buying it as well for my XB1. I didnt play last year.

[FlameHawk]

If you open both in new tabs and compare by switching back and forth, you can tell that the DE has better lighting.

[--Onilink--]

the comparison itself is kinda pointless because whatever is on the DE version that is not on PC, is because they chose not to do it(because quite frankly on PC that is usually done for free), not because it cant be done and the difference is minimal.

The only comparison that people should care about is between old gen version and this one

[Ju]

Nobody's saying it can't be done. Of course it can. But the fact remains, that this version is not on PC and in the here and now until it's re-released as a PC version, the consoles beat it.

[kevnb]

It's a small upgrade from the pc version, but a huge one from last gen consoles.

[CrossingEden]

I think they should've chosen a different gif to slow down, because they airplane animation slowed down allows you to see through the smoke and mirrors of what it takes to make an object seem like it's moving in a 3d space at a high speed while also maintaining weight and momentum, D.E. looks better.

[Kennytaur]

Already pre-ordered. Looking forward to new and improved torture-porn. ;-P

[DC777]

....oh please. I have the pc version on ultra and I saw the sad DE video on VGX. Looks like garbage compared to pc version but you believe a couple of screenshots if you want.

[Muffins1223]

Someone is upset lol...though i have this on my pc, it is obvious that their are improvements wither your mature enough to admit it or not...

[vandal GAB]

I own this on PC and I'm in crying need for a good game to play on my PS4, I'm sold on this f@#k the price support crystal dynamics they make good games.

[Rageanitus]

There is no real point honestly..... Knowing these companies they will just make the definite version come out on the PC in the end of the day.

Look at deus ex and Doom BFG.

It's not that PC hardware has as much constraints as consoles. Spend your money on the good exclusives coming out on the PS4. I am in the same boat. I only have Killzone and COD on PS4 and honestly they are not as inspiring as ppl make it seem.

Good thing we went through a wave of PC game sales in the holidays... plenty of games to play before the next PS4 game comes out.

If you try and focus on specific platforms you feel the need to get engulfed in a cash grab scenario

[shuuwai]

I'll get it when it hits 29.99 -_-;; 59.99 .. no.

[just-joe]

We need game play footage.

[MidnytRain]

*uploads to YouTube*

[thezeldadoth]

The hair in the new version didn't move and clipped through her shoulder

[ErryK]

It didn't move yet it managed to clip... the integrity in this comment is nonexistent.

[LKHGFDSA]

didn't move separately but moved as though it was glued to her head, is what he means.

[UpandDown81]

I'm liking the look of the Definitive Edition. I played, and own, the PC version, but the finer details pop a bit in this new version.

[bofuknjanglez]

Stupid article why don't they show it how I play it ULTIMATE settings vs PS4. NOT ultra vs ps4 ....I know why because then it would show console port isn't nearly as polished and shiny as they want you to think.......Ill stick to my 1080p 60fps ULTIMATE settings for 7 bucks. Just saying

[Muffins1223]

Honestly 60fps for gaming is really meant for fps and racing games,its also 1080p on ps4....

[Rageanitus]

Sorry higher 60FPS is awesome on all gaming!

Just look at those OLD nintendo games on emulators at High FPS. Smooth as butter

[Are_The_MaDNess]

someone really dont know what he is talking about.....
as higher framerate does make the game smoother and more enjoyable to play. anything less than 60fps in 2014 should be a sin.

60 fps isnt only for fps games and racing games. its for all games.
with higher framerate you have less lag and more smoothness. its better, even on a small indie sprite based game.

[GeraltofRivia]

"its also 1080p on ps4..." seems to be what console only gamers cling to for eternity. just because something is "1080p" does not mean that a console version of a game at 1080p is the same as a pc version maxed out at 1080p (also with certain monitors/ tvs you can run games way beyond 1080p)

[LKHGFDSA]

7 bucks but you had to spend over a grand for the PC build.

[GeraltofRivia]

"7 bucks but you had to spend over a grand for the PC build." big fucking deal! with pc gaming you can frequently buy games for $10 or less, new games at $40, $35 or less. Over time you save money in the games. therefore spending $800 or more on a gaming pc is not a big deal. unlike consoles, you can open a pc, sell parts, buy parts, upgrade/ install parts (easily), as desired. I despise the overpriced console game prices for games that are stuck at 1080p. (i like to game at 1600p) i will probably buy a ps4 for the great exclusives

[bofuknjanglez]

actually no I only spent $600 for and xps 8700 i7 4770,and $160 for a radeon 7950 oc'ed to 1200/1450 as the other guy said pc game is pretty cheap with steam/greenmangaming/gamefly/g amestop deals around the clock. To all the other disagrees I understand that ultimate is only a tressfx upgrade. But from the screens her hair is rather static vs pc ultra, as well the hair/shadows are even better in ULTIMATE quality vs ULTRA. Again there is a lot of difference in any game when it runs at a butter smooth 60 fps if you say other wise i call BS, so 60 dollars for a texture pack and subpar framerate/shadows/tressfx..... ... lol suckers!!!! I'll stick with my $7 copy.

[pennywhyz]

PC's are Godlike.

[RevXM]

I know what you are getting at, but Pc is only as great as you can afford and make it yourself.
And nothing ofc is as awesome as the highest end rigs out there.

Pc as a platform tho is design around the idea of having a easy to use, yet complex workstation. Only a few percents of all pc's/components made right now is made with gaming in mind. The computer I found below is the purest form of PC there is. all it is made to do is boot an os and connect to a network/internet mostly used as a client for remote desktop type environments.
http://www.newegg.com/Produ...

[kidhero99]

http://i.imgur.com/dPne0sC....

[Tundra]

As a pc player myself, i think the definitive version certainly looks better. They've had time to refine the game so of course it will look better. The price is out of line though.

[MadLad]

The lighting is definitely better. No denying that. That said, and honestly not trying to hate on the definitive version, but I really don't like what they did with Lara's face, nor would I take better lighting over being able to play the game fluidly at 60fps.

[GeraltofRivia]

as pc player myself i don't think any 1080p console game will match the quality of a pc game running at 1440p or 1600p (yes those resolutions look much better 1080p)

[Ninjamonkey82]

So much for the reworked hair it ain't working right on console the first off them three images prove it. Look at Lara as shes on the downward part off that jump. PC version her hair is lift with the physics off the jump and console version hair is static.

Disagree army will be here but the proof is in the pictures. I'm not paying no £55 pounds for a game i already own on my PC and PS3.

Senseless i'll wait for infamous and driveclub i brought my PS4 for next gen experiences not reworks.

Hell later this year we will have Playstation one at are fingers an the biggest hopefully back catalog know to man. I don't need this shit.

[Shadowolf]

It is a glaring difference, the DE looks much better than the PC version on Ultra. The shadow effect, lighting, everything about it just looks better. And to think you can experience this on $399 and $499 hardware, amazing!

- However, at the asking price of $60 for a game we've all already played, I'll pass.

[beatled]

compare it to pc running ultra, in 2560x1600 and the ps4/xbox1 version look like crap

lets be honest, this is all marketing

nothing on ps4/xbox1 has, or ever will, even look as good as 2011 pc games

the giant valley will turn into an immeasurable canyon within the next 1-2 years

[aLiEnViSiToR]

Basically this ^^ lol they might even put it on PC again just to get moar money... damn greedy *beep*.

[mochachino]

Optimization does wonders. Albeit, small wonders.

[TH3BR3W]

I'll take my $10 pc edition of the game over having to pay $60 again for a texture upgrade. They definitely did a great job on upgrading the textures no contest there. Still not enough to charge $60 again. It's worth the 60 bucks if you haven't played the game before and want to buy it for next gen.

Yes I did buy it for $10 on a steam sale during the december christmas sales. Worth every penny and more.

[LAWSON72]

Got this for $8 and visually it is stunning easily among the best o this year. It has already awed me while getting this for 7x the price wouldnt again. Also maybe I am alone but any fast paced action game is always nicer at 60 fps, which I believe the DE is not.

Sure it is nice console gamers get to see it with nice visuals but for that price tag it is way overpriced

[KontryBoy706]

one thing the "comparisons" don't show is 60fps vs 30fps. I'd rather them have made the game run at 60fps

[lifeordeath617]

PC gamers be like.... it still looks better on PC lmao

[aliengmr]

Of course it looks better, the same way modded Skyrim looks better than unmodded Skyrim.

Just a comparison of 2 different pieces of software. Not the same software on different hardware.

[Rageanitus]

Price to content ratio is BIG.

I am sorry to say this but this is a cash GRAB scenario!
The differences are are so minute.

Just look at the Deus Ex scenario they release the "directors cut" edition after on PC and other consoles.

There is nothing a patch can't do and this is the not the first time we have seen this.

Look at doom bfg edition

[Azzanation]

I honestly like her old looks better. Other then that, this is a $60 texture pack.. Not sure if its worth the money they want for it.

EDIT - Is this really a surprise? This game is later then the PC version. Of course it will look better but then they will patch the PC version 6 months down the track and around and around we go.

[Bonerboy]

...and this is what they plan to charge another 60 bucks for??? As it stands right now it doesn't look glaringly "improved" to me to warrant full price. I'll be waiting for the Steam sale for $10....maybe $5....meh...on second thought I'll most likely pass.

[Maxor]

You can buy Tomb Raider and the entire DLCs collection for less than $15 during the Holidays sale.

Now compare that price to this $60 price gouging edition and tell me if that sounds fair.

It's obvious that they're trying to make up for short fall in Tomb Raiders sale projections by charging nextgen console gamers 3 times as much.

[Bonerboy]

This is true on all counts. A quick unscrupulous 'resell' to be sure.
I keep passing on the steam sales for this title, perhaps that is telling me something. Time for gaming is becoming too precious. What time I do get, I think I'll waste it on Star citizen and the Oculus Rift on my good ol' PC.

[UNKLE]

Its true D.E. its look more better than ultra pc version anyone can see it i have a pc too i can play TR 1080p with ultra quality 30-40fps with my big LCD TV but D.E. looks more better,anyone who disagree with this then he is really a pc snob guy.

[tubers]

This is at least 1080 and 60 FPS for the next gen consoles right?

[UNKLE]

Ohh yeah i forgot because today gamers only care about 60fps and fullhd...sigh old time was better in PSX/PS2 era.

[RVanner_]

In the first comparison with the plane the D.E lighting looks a bit better, Lara seems a bit washed out in the PC version. In the second comparison the TressFX hair looks even better on D.E (just that bit more textured and sharper) however the PC looks far more extreme with all the blood, making her look like one tough cookie so for effects going with the PC version on that one, graphical fidelity I think the D.E has the edge overall. Impressive job and exciting to see them getting this level of quality out of the consoles so soon.

[x5exotic]

RIP PC

[FantasyStar]

It looks ...okayish. I definitely prefer the lighting in the newer version for sure.

[Edvin1984]

Buying this day one @$60 and I played it when it came out. I never got everything out of the game initially as I wanted, as my disc broke. However, I can say this game for me and my tastes is defiantly worth rebuying in higher fidelity. Also, after finishing AC4 on PS4 I got nothing left to play that I like to play. Sorry COD/BF4 are not something I play on PS4, as I prefer mouse and keyboard for FPS.

Again, this isn't something for everyone, but it also wasn't a major investment for them. I think this will entice the publisher to invest more into the sequel which I am sure we all would love to have. Its a win win for every one if you don't want it don't buy it, and your are off well. If you want it you buy it, and you get what you wanted. I see no problem with this, as this is simple economics to me.

[iplay1up2]

LOL, another "mines bigger than yours" match between PC/console gamers. My gosh, why can't people just be happy with their consoles/PC's what have you?

I for one am not upgrading my PC,Laptops because I don't need to. They are all great. A year and a half ago they were top of the line. I just can't see spending money to upgrade just to play on Ultra settings(which I still can play games on that setting) when they all work great. I prefer consoles. There is no fuss, or upgrades needed ever. Just buy your game and play it.

Not only are consoles less work, but they have WAY MORE EXCLUSIVE GAMES. Most games on PC are ports anyway, and I really do not care that much if the freaking textures are better on PC or that it may run faster on PC. 2014 we will see Sony optimizing their games for PS4 and we will see some amazing things. Hell I play Wii U and love that too, and it sure as hell is not as powerful as PS4.

[LKHGFDSA]

I don't get the huge lashback this game is getting.
Games are re-released and ported to other platforms all the time, with this one they actually bothered to enhance it a little, isn't that a good thing?
The price will fall, and it's already less than the average PS4 game.

[ziggurcat]

actually, it's the same price as every other PS4 game...

[WikusVanDeMerwe]

You guys are comparing two different builds of a game and one of them is a year old. Yeah, that's fair.

[Are_The_MaDNess]

oh noes! the lighting looks worse on the pc version. i guess we just got to use SweetFX then and fix that.

[CrowbaitBob]

This is not a comparison of hardware, it's a comparison of two seperate versions of a software product. Is there really any surprise that the later, more fully developed version of the software product looks superior?

[Kurylo3d]

Look out guys.. they made her covered in more blood. Must be worth another purchase lol.

[MuhammadJA]

I hate the new Asian Lara.

[TXIDarkAvenger]

I think D.E looks better however its not like Tomb Raider was built up from the ground for just PC. Obviously last gen consoles held it back like most multiplatform games.