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Gaming Media Defend Xbox One's Higher Price, Lower Resolution

Apparently gaming media likes Microsoft idea of higher price and lower resolution for the Xbox One. Before going into details and war with other media lets put together the whole puzzle together and see from this all started.

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theBAWSE3846d ago (Edited 3846d ago )

gaming media defend xbox ones higher price, lower resolution

then they promptly checked their bank balance..

NewMonday3845d ago

After the BF4 and CoD 720p revelations pre-order numbers switch to favor the Sony with CoD on the PS4 outselling the XB1 version by 50%, so the "analyst" needs to double check his numbers

black0o3845d ago

NFS and AC4 yet to be seen running on x1

Kingthrash3603845d ago

lol yeah i bet, prolly the same guys crying for not gettin free ps4's. lol gaming has no real media anymore. just a bunch of gamers (some are fanboys like ign's xbox team)who want free games early.

AlexanderNevermind3845d ago

@ theBAWSE,

No doubt MS called in a few favors.

@ black0o,

I thought I remembered NFS saying that one next gen console version would look better than the other. Also they said recently that the PS4 version is on Par with the PC version. Putting the two together if I'm a betting man the PS4 version will be superior.

pyramidshead3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

@black0o

I think it's safe to say that the dev talking about Rivals on one console holding up to the PC version is going to be the PS4 one.

I'm interesting to see what res AC4 is on XB1 though, completely forgot about that. Also the Witcher 3 as well.

Assassin's Creed: Black Crushed.

Eonjay3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

I take it all in stride. Everyone knows that the Xbox is less powerful, and yes the higher price doesn't help the situation. But still, allowing the Xbox to appear more competitive is more interesting. Also, we already know that the multiplats will look better on PS4. We just need to accept that and move on. PS4 has already won the power and graphics categories but there is much more to this drama.

abzdine3845d ago

gaming media just prove once more that they are corrupted.
Paying more for less has never been a good thing.

P0werVR3845d ago

He quotes more worthy folks from more relevant sites that forums. And yet he doesn't want to consider there opinion.

Fact! We've seen both gameplays on either console for BF4, and noticed NOTHING significant. Both games will look great. Until towards the end of next year we'll see Xbox One hardware pull though significantly.

johndoe112113845d ago

@Eonjay

My problem lies in the fact that when it was the ps3 that was the underdog graphically early in this generation, gaming media had no issues raking it over the coals and writing every negative article you can think of to show it's inferiority.

There were visual comparisons on almost every multiplat game that came out and journalists had no issues bashing the weaker visuals of the ps3.

Now that the situation is reversed, all of a sudden visuals don't matter. It's a disgrace. These are the kind of things that makes you ask if microsoft is really paying these sites to underplay the differences like alot of people feel they are.

This is bogus BS and I've stopped reading a lot of these sites and writers because of it. Even though I've always been a bigger supporter of the playstation I read every article and supported every writer when they bashed it because they spoke the truth.

Now apparently, the truth depends on who can pay more for good press.

miyamoto3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

This is old news.
M$ has done this way back with the Xbox in 2001 in their own turf.

But hey money is money but the internet warriors do it for free and have quelled M$'s multi-million dollar misinformation campaign during the PS2 era, the PS3 era and more so the PS4 era.

M$ is so predictable.

But in these difficult times every gamer needs and deserves to know the truth and so spend his/her hard earned money only on the best investment and not fall for scams.

DatNJDom813845d ago

William Usher has now made a new fan. What a brave guy to call out the gaming media like that. Kudos to you William! I look foward to reading more of your articles. Don't take no crap from either Sony or m$. If Sony messes up I expect the same type of article calling them out.

mewhy323845d ago

Its no secret the microsoft use their deep pockets to influence the media. I cant justify the extra cost for a much less p8werful machine.

zeee3845d ago

The author does make some valid points. Good article!

Dasteru3845d ago

@johndoe11211:

The irony of it is this time it actually does matter.

The reason the PS3 was lagging behind the 360 graphically at launch was because, for starters it released a year later, developers had already had a year to learn how to code efficiently for the 360, second, the PS3s Cell chip was very difficult to learn compared to the 360s fairly straight forward design.

This gen both systems are easy to code for, not only that but their architecture is nearly identical which means there shouldn't be any major difference in coding for one vs the other, and second, they are both releasing at practically the same time.

Last gen it didn't matter and journalists said it did.

This gen it does matter and journalists say it doesn't.

Go figure.

Dee_913845d ago

WOW! Toms Hardware home of the PC nuts and graphic sloots said that xbone is to ps4 that ps3 is to xbox360?
I don't know much about this tech stuff but even I know thats not even remotely true lol.Its obvious to me they were influenced by something to say that.
Its so crazy that months ago all these sites were blowing up all the little negatives about the Xbone. But now that the Xbone is about to come out, they are saying the differences aren't that major..

s8anicslayer3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

@blackoo It's already been stated by some media outlets who previewed NFS that the PS4 version actually looked better than the PC version.

mikeslemonade3845d ago

“The PS4 may have a technical lead out the gate, but it's too early to hand it the decisive victory. The PS3 at launch faced a similar deficit against the Xbox 360, but the differences eroded with time.”

PS3's predecessor was the PS2(the best system of all-time). The first 7 million who bought PS3 bought it because of the PS2. And PS3 had promising exclusive software early on and throughout the generation. The X1 pails in comparison in regards to those things.

solar3845d ago

i dont like MS but you guys are just off the deep end.

UltimateMaster3844d ago

All the article says is that it admits the PS4 is stronger but the strongest console never really won that specific generation.

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amnalehu3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

now that is the true definition of fanboyism. Great story.

Heisenburger3845d ago

And talk is cheap.

At least that's what I always add on to that saying.

moparful993845d ago

Money talks and $hit walks

Comnnsence3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

I think that we need a "Dislike" button for articles, especially like this one. But still, you have to give respect to Captains like this, because even though they know the ship is sinking they refuse to abandon it.

DragonKnight3845d ago

What's there to dislike about this article? The truth? If you want to downvote it, click on the plus sign beside the name and go from there, but this article speaks the truth.

Comnnsence3845d ago

I guess we have the first "DragonKnight" present who is part of Xbone sinking ship. @ DragonKnight, let play a game. It's called Starwars . I'll be Vader and you and your followers (xbots) come to the darkside (PS4).

Hicken3845d ago

... you have no idea what the hell you're talking about, do you?

GribbleGrunger3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

I'm beginning to wonder if MS are in fact Umbrella churning out zombies, each and every one of them lining up on the 22nd and 'ugggging' at the shop assistant as he drops the X1 into their grey, twitching fingers. Then shuffling off down the street slowly mouthing '7 ... 7 twaaaa ... 7 twaaa ... Nnnnteeee ... P ...'

Seriously though, the X1 will be a great console but please for heavens sake stop this nonsensical argument.

zippycup3845d ago

lol good one gribble microsoft bought umbrella

miyamoto3844d ago

I say let the gamers get the console they rightfully deserve. Fair enough?

GribbleGrunger3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

They're both the same picture LOL. My God you people are so easily fooled. Unless you honestly believe that who ever played these games found exactly the same spot to stand for both shots! Nothing moves whatsoever, even the UI, which is further in on the X1, is in exactly the same place. Open your eyes and you will be freed.

1080p is better than 720p. It's that simple.

Yo Mama3845d ago

That's the same damn picture! It's just been edited. When the comparison was first released, the Xbone version had the crushed blacks. Now, conveniently, it's the PS4 version that's darker? HAHAHAHA. Oh man, that's funny.

pyramidshead3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

That link kinda back fired on you didn't it lol.

Infernostew3845d ago

Haha. Fooled by a joke shot. That's just the PS4 version where someone changed the sharpness and contrast to emulate how the Xbone version looks. Keep trying to fight that battle though.

5eriously3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

Give it a rest now, you and many others tried your utmost best but M$ failed you all just as they failed you with the eXBox360. There are just NO more you can do. The beans are spilled and most people know the facts now. A incredible 4 weeks awaits. Greatness are descending down on us, there will be tribulations, excitement, joy, anger, disappointment, desperation, sadness and many more emotions during this November and December, so just remember you are the only one that can decide which of these emotions are to be experienced. Speak with your wallet and then live with your decisions and emotions!.

jetlian3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

lol in all 3 shots there is different locations on grass and clouds so they arent the same! Now you cant verify which system is which though

bottum left you can tell based on d pads

DigitalRaptor3845d ago

God the denial is ripe. It's SOOOO ripe.

Is this the level of desperation we're going to deal with this entire generation?

Brix903845d ago

@lifeisgamesok

http://i.minus.com/ib0gOrDz...

Can we please move on the difference is evident, it's like saying DVDs are just as good as Blurays.

keabrown793845d ago

@Yo Mama, it's not the same picture, you can go to digital foundry and see that clearly for yourself. It seems that even though the PS4 has high resolution of 1080p and things look better in the distance the Xbox One looks as if the texture work is clearer for up close objects but horrible for distant objects.

boneso823845d ago

It's like the sharpness and the contrast have been pumped to the max on the X1 images. This could easily be the TV settings. No professional or videophile would ever calibrate their sets to look like that. You want sharpness down to almost zero to avoide sharp, jagged edges and the contrast and brightness correctly adjusted to show as much detail in the shadows as possible while retaining deep inky black levels.

The PS4 settings seem to be far more natural and much more akin to the settings used by people who actually know what makes a picture look good. Crazy amounts of contrast, crushed blacks, jaggies and over saturated colours (otherwise known as "torch mode"), is not a good way to view any material on your tv, especially video games aiming for realistic shadows and lighting.

BattleTorn3845d ago

I do question the first picture - it looks as though someone photoshops the PS4 to create the XO pic.

That said, everyone will pick your post apart for that and completely negate the second example being completely legit, and evidence that the XO has superior textures in instances.

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joab7773845d ago

I agree that ps4 is a more powerful machine and better console for gamers. To b fair, the ps4 would cost as much w/ the eye. It was smart not to include it. MS is banking on the fact that ppl will b hooked by what the xbone can do with kinect...that ppl will want it cuz its cool...and I am sure they r scrambling to fix and get past this resolution debacle. I just can't believe they didn't c this coming.

MasterCornholio3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

The PS4 would cost as much as the Xbox One with an extra controller, PS4 camera and a copy of Killzone Shadow Fall.

Sound familiar?

http://images.vg247.com/cur...

Nexus 7 2013

Godhimself_In_3d3845d ago

Nah the playstation camera is only 60 last time I checked my receipt at most it would be $460.00 you dudes math sucks. By they would only charge like $450.00 or is my math is wrong. And the $500.00 playstation came with knack. Trade in your 1080p tv if you play Xbox as you won't be needing it.

DragonKnight3845d ago

@joab777: Sony said they'd have sold the PS4 at $400 with the camera bundled as well until the higher ups decided they didn't want to take that big a loss so they nixed the bundle. So no, the PS4 would never cost the same as the X1 unless a lot of stuff was added.

boneso823845d ago

In the UK you can get a PS4, extra controller, PS Camera, and Killzone Shadowfall for £424.99, that's £5 cheaper than an Xbox One on its own.

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Automatic793845d ago

@thebawse

I love how you and your tribe come up with TMZ reporting

BOLO3845d ago

You seriously compared his comment to TMZ but are completely okay with M$FT downplaying, evading, twisting, spinning, and eclipsing the truth about how underpowered is Xbox one is to the PS4? Denial is a helluva drug.

AngelicIceDiamond3845d ago

As long as the X1 version has 60 players running at 60 frames. I don't see any real issue.

If it was doing 30 players at 30 frames running at "1080P" then that would be a huge issue. And the only thing the X1 version has going for it, was its resolution, which is also achieved on on PS4.

But that's not the case. Its 60 players running at 60FPS at 720P. The only non next gen part about it was the resolution. Which will get solved hopefully in the near future.

ZodTheRipper3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

You're missing the bigger picture. The first few games on these systems already have such differencies ...they are all superior on the cheaper console so what do you need the Xbox for? The X360's biggest strenght were it's multiplatform games, and now even that is lost.

WMANUW3845d ago

it's true . No comment...

tordavis3845d ago

I'm still trying to figure out why you think X1 and PS4 have to:

A. Be the same price
B. Have to be compared to each other like they are

It's $100 more for X1. It comes with Kinect. Price justified. I know we all wish consoles were free but they are not. Power does not equal price. Don't believe me? Ask Apple.

DragonKnight3845d ago

Price is not justified because of Kinect. That's an addition no one asked for being forced on everyone for a device that's weaker than its competition. That's not a justification, that's gouging.

tordavis3845d ago

I like Kinect so I'm one of those people who wanted it included with the console. You can't set a devices price based on it's competition.

Rhaigun3845d ago

Actually, basing price on competition is exactly what successful companies do. Ask Sony when they sold more consoles. At the $600 price, or the $299 price?

wynams3845d ago

tor wants a kinect but based on reading gamers comments, knowing gamers and being a gamer I would say a vast majority do not.

$100 more for a forced accessory for a system about half as powerful (720p is 4/9ths the performance load of 1080p). Unless you would literally die without one of the launch exclusives MS bought then you are not making a wise launch decision if you are buying an Xbox One.

tordavis3844d ago

@wynams regardless of why someone wants an X1, it's what they want to spend their money on. It doesn't make them unwise to spend their money on what they want. That's just ignorant to say that.

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colonel1793845d ago

The biggest problem si the denial of the FACTS. I mean, if you want to buy an Xbox One, even if it had NES graphics, it's fine! It's what you like, it's what you want to pay for, so it very acceptable to do that.

What is very wrong is people trying to disguise those facts or trying to lie completely. Specially when those people are journalist who are supposed to inform about facts, not opinions. They could sate facts, then state their opinion, but they tend to pass their opinion as the truth, because either they get paid or are fanboys.

So people can buy whatever they want, but that doesn't mean the facts are not there.

tordavis3845d ago

What facts are they not stating? PS4 is more powerful on paper. Better specs. NO ONE is arguing that!

cfir3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

@tordavis

But that is exactly they are doing. It may be more powerful on paper but that's not the whole story says M$. Let the games do the talking - M$. Well, the games have done their talking and guess what, PS4 is significantly more powerful that the Xbone. So now the rhetoric is "It's upscaled anyway so the native resolution doesn't matter" - That's just sad.

I'm getting a PS4, even if it was less powerful I'd still be getting a PS4. If people want to buy an Xbone that's up to them. It has no impact on me. But if you feel the need to justify your purchase, then it should be that you Love Halo or Forza.

The Power struggle is over. PS4 won. Lets just acknowledge that and move on.

wynams3845d ago

@tor its not just on paper but keep telling yourself the cloud will save the day

tordavis3844d ago

@wynams it is on paper. Until, oh let me see...THE CONSOLES ACTUALLY COME OUT and we see some more games, it's only on paper. I don't talk about the cloud, don't put words in my mouth. I actually know what the cloud is used for.

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ovnipc3845d ago

What console shoukd i buy? Anyone know where i can reserve a ps4 now? Any links plz.

KwietStorm_BLM3845d ago

Is that that creepy bastard from Big Trouble In Little China??

TheHybrid3845d ago

Haha yea because $100 means a lot to adults with jobs

Rhaigun3845d ago

Of course it does. Unless you're pulling in $2000 a week. Adults have other things to pay for besides consoles, but you know that if you were one.

Brix903845d ago

Its not a lot but it makes the difference when your paying for XBL, Games and Charge Kits. You start adding all that you can easily go into over $600 into the console.

BOLO3845d ago

I...I just can't...You are probably one of those folks who rag on PC gamers for spending cash on superior hardware...But you completely justify spending $100 more for inferior hardware? Would you buy a black and white T.V. at a 4K T.V. price?

T23845d ago

It doesnt matter how much if theres a better product for less ... Adults understand value

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showtimefolks3845d ago

yeh keep defending, people will a working brain can figure out which is better and which costs less yet delivers more

gigoran3845d ago

Just a guess, but would one of those media related websites start with a "K" and end with a "Horsefaced Woman & Wapanese Pervert otaku"? Yeah no surprises there.

Amplitude3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

i always forget the X1 is more expensive too...

god what are they doing

TheDev3845d ago

-Monopoly is bad.
-New Consoles are PC's.
-I am dissapoint a bit, son.

Just sharing a few opinions here...

Actually, the thing is that most gaming journalists know that even if there's an advantage on one side, it's for the good of both gamers and the industry to keep both consoles on par. Monopoly (well, when there's an obvious leader in a given area of expertise) never made for better services and products.

That said, it's also their job (journalists) to inform people about facts and what's best for the consumer.

BTW, since both consoles's architectures are similar to PC's, DO NOT expect any leaps in graphical fidelity over time from better knowledge of the hardware. Game companies have been developping for X360 and PC for years now and these new consoles are PC's in nice looking boxes. They just got to deal with more power and memory resources than last gen. It'll be all up to the game engines to improve, not the mastery of the hardware like it was the case for the PS3's slow debut.
Good news for PC gamers, console games are going to come up faster than last gen on PC. Hopefully, better optimized.

What rather saddens me is the fact that I was expecting the specs of both consoles to result in similar visuals than what is on most people's PC's right now (high to ultra settings @ 1080p) believing that the way they built their machines was much more efficient than the way PC's are built. Not the case. After all, they're 400/500$ mass produced PC's... what was I thinking.

The fact that some people don't see any difference between both versions of BF4 most likely is due to simple lack of gaming on a decent PC in recent years.
The lack of proper anti-aliasing, especially on XOne, hurts my little spoiled PC gamer eyes.

I haden't played a game on my PS3 since The Last of Us (which was pretty nice looking and dead fun) when I played GTA5... man did it bring me back to the sad reality that previous gen consoles have been surpassed by PC's years ago. All the jaggies... But hey, when the game is good, it helps forget about it.

I'm going to be holding off on my urge to buy a console this new gen. Until a very attractive exclusive shows up, I'll keep playing my multiplats on my PC.

devwan3845d ago

I'm sure it sounded good in your head, but sorry, that essay was a huge, garbled mess of contradiction and master race fappage.

TheDev3844d ago

devwan: so glad you picked up all the contradictions and the pc master race propaganda that I wanted to carefully dissimulate in my post. I felt misunderstood for a sec here.

kenshiro1003845d ago

This same gaming media condemned the PS3 for its higher price.

I see where this is going...

Bathyj3845d ago

I didn't even know Doritocracy was a word.

solidjun53845d ago

Well an article like this was dew.

Bathyj3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

HA. Nice. Funny bubble.

Edit.
Omg. I think you actually got a bubble, or am I dreaming. I've never seen that happen before. I could be wrong.

solidjun53845d ago

Lol. I didn't get a bubble. Thanks for bubbling me. Maybe one day -seriously I've been at 5 for a long time. Lol

Bathyj3845d ago

Oh well, that's a shame. I got a little bit excited there for a second.

Yeah it takes years to get bubbles, but you can lose them in minutes.

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Mr Pumblechook3845d ago

Whilst the big news of the week is that Xbox One is running 720p graphics Gametrailers IGNORE it and get MS shill Annoyed Gamer to talk about 'My Growing Concerns for the PlayStation 4.'

http://www.gametrailers.com...

This industry is corrupt.

otherZinc3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

COD & BF4 do absolutely nothing different than it's 360 & PS3 counterparts, the game isn't made with next gen in mind.

However, Drive Club & Forza 5 are.

Drive Club NEVER reached 1080p @ 60fps.
BUT..
Forza 5 did teach 1080p "native" @ 60fps.

One game is being delayed, the other isn't. Why are so-called "journalists" disregarding these facts?

You guys mean to tell me BF4 & COD:Ghosts devs know the hardware better than Guerilla Games?

Why is Killzone:SF not running at a better resolution & frame rate than COD:Ghost & BF4? Because Killzone:SF is made for next gen, COD:Ghosts & BF4 wasn't.

donman13845d ago

Got to love Microsoft's direct deposit.

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Wingsfan243845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

Yay another anti-Microsoft article. Lets just wait for the next pro-Sony article and then a negative article where everyone defends the PS4 till their blue in the face. So sad. Why does it matter to you people what people do with their own damn money, if you think they're wasting it on something let them, what the hell does it have to do with you.

NewMonday3845d ago

Why does it matter to you what people do with their own @#?! time, if you think we're wasting it on something let us, what the #!?@ does it have to do with you.

Wingsfan243845d ago

Hm, where does it say it matters to me what people do with their time? Oh right it doesn't. I asked a question as to why people care what other people do with their money, so before you write another immature comment with numbers, @ signs and letters to cuss me out because you're scared of losing a bubble, think before you speak.

Compared to other articles where I state I'll be purchasing an Xbox One first over a PS4 and people telling me I'm stupid for doing so?

@armour1997

You're title puts the gaming media and the Xbox One in a negative light? If you can read that title as a positive then good luck.

LeCreuset3845d ago

@PockyKing

This is in response to your reply to armour1997.

"You're title puts the gaming media and the Xbox One in a negative light? If you can read that title as a positive then good luck."

Are you serious. Those are FACTS! I'm struggling to find the words right now, bro. Here's the title:

"Gaming Media Defend Xbox One's Higher Price, Lower Resolution"

Those are facts. You are kvetching because a member of the gaming media stated FACTS. You are exactly what is wrong with the state of the gaming media. If those facts are so negative, if they bother you so much, then maybe you need to be questioning support of Xbone rather than someone doing their job and telling it like it is.

armour19973845d ago

i am not defending no one and i am not going anti i am just saying what other saying what others saying my my words. Plus myxboblog is dedicated to Xbox One news. so we can't go negative about it.

creeping judas3845d ago

Maybe you don't know, but defending your article, or post seems a tad bit overzealous. If you had the balls the write it, don't come here and try and defend it. Stick to you guns, and don't let the negative comments hurt your feelings. Just saying.

-Foxtrot3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

Because people who want to support MS day 1 after everthing they tried to do are idiots simply put...sorry but it's true, you have someone like Sony or Nintendo in some ways who actually gives a crap and has proved themselves over the years while MS gives you the middle finger and they also give you a more for your buck with the PS4 while with MS makes you pay more for less.

Is this fanboy-ish no...does it come off fanboy-ish yes but all it is at the end of the day is common sense. When a child does something right you praise them, when a employee does something right at work the higher ups praises them, when a company does something right like Sony...you praise them. What you DON'T do is praise or support someone who tried to screw you over 6 months ago and in some cases are still today.

I just don't understand what some people are not getting about this. Instead it all turns to personal attacks and name calling like "your a troll" or "your a Sony fanboy" when really your just a person with common sense looking at this on the outside of the box. I'm not saying there isn't Sony fanboys on here and Sony fans in general are perfect but you can't group everyone together

So yeah it does matter in ways what you and others want to do with their money because supporting someone like Microsoft is going to be bad overall and effect everyone. How can they learn anything when they are giving the one thing they crave...money. It's exactly the same with companies like Capcom who try and screw you over and ruin their franchises but people going "Oh even though I know what to expect I'll buy it day one to give it a try"....it makes no sense.

So yeah do what you want but at the end of the day your just part of the group of people who don't care about what happens to this industry. Microsoft tried to change it for their own greedy selfish needs, if that's something you want to support then by all means go right ahead but don't end up moaning about it in years to come when they end up screwing you over enough to realise what you've done.

rant over/

Wingsfan243845d ago

We've been buying Xbox 360's for 7 years now and the gaming industry has been fine. Sure, some of MS policies weren't good in the beginning, but they changed it. And some of the features, which I don't have time right now to go into detail about, were really next-gen features. Sharing your library digitally with someone is a feature I would have loved to have had. The camera being always on, not so much. Is Xbox Live worth the 60 bucks a year when PSN is free (for now) no, not really, but I have friends across the country who I play online with so I'll pay the money to do so.

If you want to buy a PS4, buy a PS4. I'll be buying mine later in the year. For right now, I'm purchasing an Xbox One and will enjoy it because I'm interested in the entertainment side of things as much as the games.

Sadly enough, I HAVE to clarify that I own BOTH consoles so somebody doesn't eat me alive.

Dehnus3845d ago

After everything they tried to do? Yet you all cheer for Steam taking our freedom away. Oh well maybe GOG spoiled me.

Wingsfan243845d ago

Steam, how could I forget. It's all about baseless company hate ha.

MrCastle3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

People can spend money on whatever they want. Who are you to say if someone is stupid or not? Green is my favorite color. Are you gonna flip out about that? It's my money, and I KNOW I'm gonna be happy with both consoles. You all should just learn to deal with it. Nobody is gonna 'bring Microsoft down' by trolling these forums.

Sitdown3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

Rootkit? Removing advertised feature of other os after we purchased our ps3s? Lites regarding rumble? You still support Sony? Please get off your high horse. Most companies will do whatever they can to maximize profit... and I will purchase my ps4 and Xbox one knowing this.

ShowGun9013845d ago

well said... support the company whose vision of the future of video games most lines up with your own.

i was terrified the original xbones plan would come to fruition and we would all be worse off for it... they changed because we told them to with pre-orders, thank god there another choice! if not, they wouldn't have changed ANYTHING about the xbone and if your internet went out, you could still play your 360! sonys not perfect, but i'd much rather give them support than m$.

n4rc3845d ago

What's hard to get really?

Not everyone feels the way you do.. I had my x1 preordered before the 180 because i thought it was awesome.. Nothing was bad to me..

And this article is pretty bad.. A game console isnt a gfx card and we dont play benchmarks..

Does ps4 come out ahead in said benchmarks? Seems so, for now at least... tools will improve in time. But the actual difference in game isnt noticable during gameplay, at least to most people..

Automatic793845d ago

@foxtrot

Typical Sony fanboy answer.

starchild3845d ago

@ foxtrot

Everybody must think the same way huh?

I love the way you guys act like your skewed opinions or the way you see things are facts.

You remind me of religious dogmatists who take it as self-evident that their faith is the only correct one. You don't seem to realize that other people don't share your assumptions about things.

In your worldview, for example, Microsoft is this big bad evil company that is a huge threat to your very way of life. Other people simply see them as a company that offers a product that you can choose to buy or not.

Likewise, some people dislike Valve and think that Steam is horrible, but at the same time many people love Steam.

I'm not buying an Xbox One or a PS4. I'm sticking with my PC and will only buy the consoles later on when there are more exclusives I want. Should I say you are all stupid for doing most of your gaming on a console instead of a PC? No, I won't, because I don't think that way. I realize that different people have different needs and preferences.

You are too mired in your own bias to even understand that there are people with legitimate points of view different from your own.

DragonKnight3845d ago

@Sitdown: You really do need to sitdown and shut up.

"Rootkit?" What does Sony BGM's anti-piracy measure have to do with gaming or playstation?

"Removing advertised feature of other os after we purchased our ps3s?"

Show us an advertisement for OtherOS. Because there are none and you didn't pay for OtherOS.

"Lites regarding rumble?"

What? If you're trying to take a dig at Sony over rumble, that wasn't their choice. Immersion was suing them. They can't include a feature that isn't their's.

You clearly just need to stop.

I love how Xbox fanboys try to downplay what they were all over 7 years ago. Classic.

-Foxtrot3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

For those of you above blabbering on about "Oh but it's their opinion, it dosen't mean they are wrong you know" sorry but thats BS.....just because someone has another opinion on something dosen't mean it's something which is left up in the air to decide on. I mean someone for example could turn around and go "Oh that Hilter eh....what a hoot he was" thats their opinion but it's a bad one because Hitler as we all know was a bad man, a very bad man, while on the other hand when you have something like Marmite "you either love it or hate it" thats something left up in the air and all comes down to opinion, no one is wrong there.

Sorry but at the end of the day it comes down to right or wrong, if you actually favour MS then why? Why do you like them? Why do you think they WERE NOT in the wrong? Because what have they done over the years roughly when Kinect was released, to make you go "Gee, I'm so happy I support MS right now, they are number one because <insert reason>". So yeah it is about common sense. You might have your opinion on liking them fair enough but I really can't think of a good enough reason my self why you would after what they've done or tried to do.

Oh and those talking about Steam/Valve....your really comparing Microsoft to Valve. I mean your comparing a digital distribution platform for PC to a gaming console with physical discs....come on man. If Steam was a console like the PS or Xbox and they had been doing that for years then fair enough but it's not.

Anyway for those talking about how Microsoft "changed"....yeah they changed BECAUSE of the people with common sense. If it was up to you guys Microsoft would of done nothing and continued to screw you over...and hell this could of spread over the years and influence other companies since they would see that most of us don't mind it.

@MichaelLito79

Says the guy with Master Chief as his avatar and has been defending MS non stop....hmmm yeah ok then

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Dehnus3845d ago

Because it is all the Xbots and Sony Ponies have left. comparing spec sheets and ruining eachothers fun. After all what fun is there in just enjoying yourself with a videogame, it is far more fun in ruinig it for others :).

TheGreenMan3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

@Pocky

But this isn't an anti-MS article, per say; it's an article calling out the apologist media sites defending the Xbox One. I think the author is pretty spot on with this - we've seen quite a few "does the power difference really matter" articles. I often wonder what kind of articles we'd see if the PS4 was underpowered. Something tells me the gaming media would be ripping the system to shreds.

obelix013845d ago

It's almost pointless to defend Xbox on this site when it obvious who this site favors. For instance for every one positive X1 articles you get 3 negative X1 articles to counter that one positive article. That's the way this site rolls. Unfortunately.

WeAreLegion3845d ago

It's not this site. Sony's doing well. When Microsoft did well, this site was full of good Xbox articles. It's just the media following the hate.

Angeljuice3845d ago

Its pointless defending the Xbox full-stop. The articles on this site reflect the general perception of the consoles throughout the world. Xbox one is a bad console, the only argument for having one is if you like their exclusive software.
Why defend an inferior, more expensive piece of tech at all, defend the software all you like, but the hardware is 2nd rate and there is no debating that fact.

RonRico3845d ago

@WeAre
Yep. I remember a few years ago there were a lot of pro-xbox people here. Interesting times right now, but all gamers should be excited.

zeee3845d ago

Apparently, you weren't here back in 2006-2007. For every one positive article about Sony, we had like 12 negative ones. YOu have absolutely no idea how harsh this place was. It felt like a giant gas planet! (In case you don't know, gas planets such as Jupiter etc lack any rock and have violent temperatures. You'll keep falling until you reach the core that is if you are able to stand that sort of pressure).

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punisher993845d ago

" Lets just wait for the next pro-Sony article and then a negative article where everyone defends the PS4 till their blue in the face"

Its ironic that you say that considering the fact that you defend MS until you are blue in face.

I_am_Batman3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

There is no need to defend any company when they are doing something wrong unless you're working for that company. Just think about it. If nobody would've complained Xbox One would've still have the DRM restrictions.

Sony is praised as the company they are right now because people complained about the high launch price of the PS3 and about the complicated architecture of the cell. Now look at the PS4. Those companies need feedback as much as possible so that they learn more about what their potential customers want and what the devs want.

LeCreuset3845d ago

It's not so much a negative Microsoft article as it is a negative gaming journalism article. That you would get so defensive over him stating facts in no small way supports his assertion that the gaming media has created a ridiculous atmosphere where "unfair balance" is expected.

quenomamen3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

Aaron Greenberg you sly dog you had me fooled for a minute there, how did you come up with a name like PockyKing ? And why are you using a photo of what looks like a young George Lucas ? Oooh I see you're trying to blend in with common folk, keep it in the DL as the kids woukd say. No worries bro I'm not telling anyone, wink wink. ;)

AtomicGerbil3845d ago

If you don't get it then you shouldn't really be here. What do think public forums are for?

The internet would be a extremely uncomfortable and boring place if all we did was stroke e-penis all day long. Instead we debate the topic at hand, unfortunately that will include opinions you do not like. Yes, some users go too far but most of us have learnt to deal with it.

Whether your preference is Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft or PC it's hard to deny that Microsoft has dropped the ball and are now on their hands and knees frantically trying to pick it up again. It's also hard to deny that they are toxic to the games industry if left unchecked. If you are a staunch fan of the Xbox brand, fine, just don't be a fan that will sit back and take a pork sword to the mouth while they empty your wallet and your consumer rights.

Before you get all defensive about the last sentence, be mindful of the "if" I placed as the first word.

pwnsause_returns3845d ago

"Yay another anti-Microsoft article."

I didnt see you guys complaining back in 2006 when Sony was getting more hate Articles than Bush....

strickers3845d ago

That's not anti MS. It's anti media and pointing out some factual tech specs.
You are the point.

SpinalRemains1383845d ago

Maybe, just maybe you should stop scrutinizing the articles and start scrutinizing both machines.

There's a reason every gaming website favors PS4. Its the better machine in every aspect.

You don't have a beef with N4G. Your beef is with MS, but you're entirely too brainwashed to direct it there. Ergo...........must be fanboys.

punisher993845d ago

@PockyKing:

" Why does it matter to you people what people do with their own damn money,"

Like I said, you do the same thing. You are constantly defending microsoft in every article. The evidence is right on your profile. You are no better than the same type of people you complain about.

kneon3845d ago

It's not an anti-Microsoft article, it's an anti-crappy journalism article. Yes the Xb1 is technologically inferior but that's not the point. The point is that real journalist wouldn't be trying to defend the XB1 given the obvious evidence of it's significantly lower performance.

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MadLad3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

The higher price is BS.
It is reflective of the what should be optional tech they are forcing down people's throats and begs to question why, even without it, the tech itself isn't on par with that of Playstation.
That said, systems like the Wii and the PS2 - weak during their time - still managed to offer very good experiences for players and the weakness of the system should not be viewed as a damning thing in itself.

ShowGun9013845d ago

ps4=$400

kinect 2.0 = $200
xbone = $300

IMO thats how it probably breaks down, and thats whey the xbone is weaker than the ps4... because its actually cheaper, with a $200 camera thrown in because why not?

pyramidshead3845d ago

Higher price point for multiplats that look worse than the cheaper product. MS will need to hire a literal tornado in order to spin this into a positive.

LEOPARD10303845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

"Doritocracy":

1. Games at 720p.
2. 25% more expensive that the competence.
3. Equipped with NSA camera.
4. Mandatory Kinect
5. Half of graphical processing

Only the most radicals will buy this machine.

KingOdin893845d ago

Pretty much nailed every point in that list.

I can understand someone buying a Wii U as a secondary system. But, as a primary system goes, with Xbone trying to match PS4 and failing to do so at every turn, there's just no justifying that purchase to someone that can only get one system.

HighResHero3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

hAhh Doritocracy, where the secret sauce is always flowing and all the engines run on "cloud" vapor.

Wikkid6663845d ago

Pretty much totally wrong.

"games at 720p" Hmmm... don't tell that to all games that above that.

"25% more expensive that the competence" What?

"NSA camera" Don't forget your tinfoil

"Mandatory Kinect" You might want to keep up with the times

LEOPARD10303845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

Money:

XO 500USD - PS4 400USD = 100USD
100/400 = 0.25 = 25 %

Pixels and definition:

" Needless to say, there are some basic differences in image quality that need knocking on the head right away. Chief among them is the hot topic of internal resolution, where we determine that the Xbox One code is indeed running at 1280x720. If this is set in stone for release - as is likely - the Microsoft version is poised to give us the most aliasing of the two next-gen platforms by a noticeable degree, and is only a stone's throw from the sub-720p resolutions of current-gen releases. On the other hand, the PS4 version delivers a whopping 1600x900 resolution in all modes, giving it a 50 per cent lead in output pixels overall. As well as cutting down on jagged edges, this reduces the amount of pixel shimmer we see in motion on complex shaders or thin geometry, with distant power lines, scaffolding and other elements with sub-pixel elements creating unwanted flickering on Xbox One."

Source Eurogame.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

It's just my opinion.

Rageanitus3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

how is it the radicals that will buy this machine?

If xbox offers games ppl want then ppl will buy it.

Did we not look long ago when the PS3 launched.Alot of ppl like myself bought it primarly as a Bluray player during the first year.

As much as I hate the kinect, alot of ppl bought into it for some reason. Look at the wii, the controls SUCK but it still sold millions.

Ppl should really step back and be glad that both SONY, Ninentod, and MS are offering different types of things.

If i was that closed minded I would be stuck playing just PC games (though I do prefer playing PC games overall)

The same goes both ways with PC's vs consoles
1) games will struggle on the consoles after a year to do 1080p 60fps because of the static nature of a console
2)Games in general cost more on consoles by 10$
3)Forced to purchase propriety peripherals
4) Fraction of the graphical processing.

Etc etc

MightyNoX3845d ago

Doritocracy....

I'mm steal that one. *slinks away before he is asked for royalties*

Bigc323845d ago

Let's see xb1 better online , dedicated server more to do on dash. Ps4 power n thats it lol

sAVAge_bEaST3845d ago

Plus, who knows how long it will be around.? M$ co-founder Paul Allen wants to dump the xbone. http://n4g.com/news/1385142...

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk7710h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE7h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware7307h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

Skuletor4h ago

Just merge them all into a single studio, have it churn out a single Call of Duty every year and call it a day, lol.

Barlos4h ago

Don't be scared, you'll be fine.

Skuletor3h ago

It's exputer, fine is one word I would not associate with them.

Profchaos3h ago

I think it's becoming clear based on matt bootys comments there's no future for any IP that can't sell above 10 million within the launch window. But is also a small game that gives them prestige

/S it's beyond a joke right now

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus232d ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

KwietStorm_BLM1d 17h ago

So you do understand it or..?

rokos1d 16h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb331d 15h ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC1d 5h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled2d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies1d 19h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear211d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k42d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC1d 5h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615861d 14h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k41d 10h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k41d 10h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody2d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead1d 23h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage1d 17h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast2d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19792d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19791d 14h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage1d 17h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead4d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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