Microsoft: Xbox One will be leading product people love and embrace

Gamespot writes:

"Xbox boss Don Mattrick believes concerns over connectivity are overblown, recommends Xbox 360 for those without an Internet connection.

Microsoft's controversial announcement that the Xbox One will require an Internet connection has led to consumer backlash, but the company isn't concerned this will keep the platform from becoming an industry leader."

[Excalibur]

LOL, M$ is delusional.

[Godmars290]

Hopefully.

Despite the amount of money they're about to throw out in advertising to say otherwise.

[darthv72]

could prove quite successful if they portray the unit as the end all be all of human convenience.

the only counter to that would be if Sony steps up their marketing. truth be told...that is a sore spot for Sony. unless they turn things around in that dept like they have elsewhere.

time will tell.

[Pyrrhus]

"Fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity; it's called Xbox 360,"

He has a filthy way of looking at things. MS need to stop talking asap.

[fr0sty]

"Fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity; it's called Xbox 360,"

So, that's Microsoft's answer to our troops overseas? A polite f%@# you?

[Godmars290]

"Fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity; it's called Xbox 360,"

Isn't the 360's main strength XBL, which is an online service?

And is it true that this super-slim Xbox only has 4GB? Has no larger HDD?

[Prophet-Gamer]

All Sony has to do is inform people of the restrictions on the Xbone. As much as people don't want to admit it, the average joe WILL care when he/she has to pay 100 bucks more only to find they can't rent, lend, or sell their games (unless publishers allow it of course). On top of that, all the other DRM and privacy issues.

The casual audience MS needs WILL be affected.

[NewMonday]

Mattrick:"Fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity; it's called Xbox 360"

sounds like "give them cake"

[Relientk77]

The title made me laugh, just so hard. Glad I wasn't drinking or eating anything

[NewMonday]

unfortunately I was full of gas, the entire office floor i'm in is now empty.

[dedicatedtogamers]

People should watch the interview:
http://www.gametrailers.com...

The arrogance on display is just...staggering. It would be one thing if Microsoft said "it looks like we overestimated our plans and we will adjust". Heck, Major Nelson already told us "we are listening" and look what happened? Microsoft truly, truly believes that you will bend over and buy this system. I hope gamers out there have enough self-control to not do it.

I suppose it makes sense. Every single person who created the Xbox and Xbox 360 consoles is gone from Microsoft.

tl;dr Mattrick is saying "our policies don't matter. You'll buy it anyway".

[Excalibur]

Ughh, just watched the Interview you posted and Don Mattrick came off like a sleazy used car salesman.

[Vip3r]

He seemed really upset in that video. Must be getting sick of answering all those DRM questions.

[Boody-Bandit]

I did watch the interview. All it did was ensure me I am made the right decision by walking away from MS altogether. I wont ever have an XBOX ONE in my home unless they completely abandon their DRM policies altogether. Anything but wont do.

Mattrick and the rest of his crew has completely ruined the MS gaming division.

Just watch the Jack Tretton interview from today and compare these two guys. It's unbelievable how polar opposite they are when discussing their strategies.

Jack comes off as a passionate business man that absolutely loves his job, the products his company makes, the vision they have, but most of all appreciates their consumer base and listens to what they want from Sony.

Mattrick comes off, scratch that, IS an arrogant pompous SOB who views his consumer base as mindless drones. We will give you what we give regardless of what you want or ask for and you will bow down, kiss our shoes and be eternally grateful for it.

Hey Don, good luck with that.

MS hasn't been the same since Peter Moore left.

[Excalibur]

Here is the perfect reply to that video.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[kenshiro100]

They're losing it alright. I don't know how they could possibly think their policies are good right now.

[s8anicslayer]

Yes they are and they are too damn cocky to boot

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Lets be realistic, At the moment, MS isn't budging on the always on console. MS will evaluate it after the thing launches but in the mean time MS honestly has no reason to preemptively back track on the idea. If it fails MS will simply handle it otherwise. God knows MS doesn't wanna take a hit with the XO.

My only concern is the handle of used games. But like I said MS holding on to its beliefs so don't expect change from now till launch.

[Vip3r]

""Fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity; it's called Xbox 360," Mattrick said. "If you have zero access to the Internet, that is an offline device.""

-ar·ro·gance [ar-uh-guhns]
noun
offensive display of superiority or self-importance; overbearing pride.
Also, ar·ro·gan·cy.

No wonder the gaming community hates you MS. Good grief...

[darthv72]

what some perceive as arrogance, others perceive as confidence.

let's not forget Sony was perceived as arrogant at the unveiling of the ps3 and yet they believed they were confident in their presentation.

[Bathyj]

Any everyone called them on it. And then they were humbled and came back better for it.

Thats what MS needs. To be taken down a peg or two dozen.

[Vip3r]

Umm, the PS3 has done spectacularly well, espeically since it was released 4-5 months late in Europe and at a high price point too.

When a rep of a company say "buy a 360" when referring to connection concerns, that is arrogance. Not confidence in their new product for people with a slow or no internet connection.

[Reborn]

I'm sorry Dons comments come across as arrogance, not confidence (far from it).

They've not provided any real logical alternative, except those snappy remarks.

[dedicatedtogamers]

You are 100% right. Sony was arrogant and it cost them victory in the 7th gen. Saying stuff like "if you can't afford $599 you'll get a second job just to afford it!" was way off base.

However, one key difference is that arrogance surrounding the PS3 was arrogance from videogame designers. They were making decisions with the goal of being the ultimate gaming platform.

With Xbox One, it's not even being made by the same people who made Xbox and Xbox 360. Every single one of those people has left Microsoft. I wouldn't simply call it arrogance. I'd call it woefully out of touch with the market.

[JokesOnYou]

I dont see arrogance, PR by nature is to be positive, hes not boasting or saying you'll work harder to buy an X1 but clearly he believes in the business model of being connected so hes not going to tell people not connected to buy a ps4, NO he's going to push 360= xbox products. The bottom line is micro is taking a huge bet that people want games, media AND full blown connectivity= X1

Theres only one way to find out....consumers WILL speak with thier wallets.

[NatureOfLogic]

The most arrogant major corporation I've ever seen. Get it together MS, seriously. Just imagining the amount crazy delusional things that they might actually believe is sad.

[NateCole]

WTF?. To think that i kinda felt sorry for them a bit.

Jesus. Do these guys have a clue?.

So if gamers without internet want to play the new games they shown they should get the x360?.

Unbelievable.

[hellvaguy]

If you cannot afford have an internet connection to ping you once every 24 hours (even dail-up could handle that), it's doubtful you can afford a next gen console anyways. So irrelevant argument.

[NateCole]

You do know there is a world outside of the US right?.

People that have and can afford gaming consoles since the Atari days but don't have or have limited internet connectivity right?.

Sorry to say this but you are just as dense as Don. you guys have no clue whatsoever.

[hellvaguy]

"You do know there is a world outside of the US right?"

Yet you are here on your high speed connection worring about some 3rd world country person that cannot afford a next gen system anyways. I think you kinda need to get a clue. Dail-up at a minimum is most everywhere where next gen system would be selling.

I know your not referring to the US, Canada, Europe, and definitely not Japan (btw Ive been to all those I just listed except for Japan). Where exactly is this mystery hypothetical large consumer base that you speak of that doesn't not even have a dial-up connection?

[NateCole]

Ok. i'll give you a clue.

Is next gen console gaming only for people with internet?.

Should gamers that want next gen gaming be punished for not having internet connection?.

Do every gamer in both developed and developing countries have internet connection?.

It's not about me. South America, Asia, Africa have a lot of gamers that can afford console gaming but don't have the internet infrastructure as do many parts in developed countries as well.

So if these gamers want to game next gen they should fuck off?. That is basically what Don is saying.

[hellvaguy]

Again, you cannot name this "country" after you insulted me for not thinking of the world outside of the U.S. I want to know more of your worldly travels that you spoke of to gain some insight on this. By Africa you mean like Somlia that has almost no electricity anyway. Ya that's a no go. You do realize by Asia, China is a large part of that and has internet. I mean your making too easy now.

I understand not wanting drm, but that wasn't what you initially were arguing. So post this make believe country you dreamt up or go away plz.

[Wigriff]

40% of the US population doesn't have broadband access at home. There are plenty of people in rural areas who can't get broadband.

Even if the XBone had a 56k dialup modem in it - which it doesn't - are you honestly suggesting that people should have too "check in" with the console with a dialup connection when they won't even have the bandwidth to do anything else while connected?

And I don't want to hear any nonsense about how people should move to where there is broadband. Aside from the fact that some of these people are living on farms, etc., people shouldn't have to move in order to play video games.

[Toon_Link]

Well I remember when my wife gave birth to my first child there were complications and I ended up staying at the hospital for 5 days straight. I guess I would have been shit out of luck considering I couldn't use the hospitals Internet to pass the time occasionally playing games.

So there are times when you might not have access to Internet and might want to game. Just saying.

[NateCole]

Go to countries like Thailand or Indonesia in Asia. Cameroon or Senegal in Africa. Peru or even Brazil in South America. Heck vist some of the places in Europe.

You are clueless just like Don.

Now i will add cowardice for blocking me from responding to your stupid PM's.

[RandomDude655]

Microsoft 2013 worse than Sony 2006

[Loki86]

Really, this is what you are going to go with? Not even comparable, MS actually has games and advantages to their system.

[kenshiro100]

That's not something to brag about when your policies are anti-consumer.

[Tyre]

@Loki86 This makes me sick, they R just flat out are patronizing consumers! Shameless. And there are no benifits to the system compared to the PS4. You must be a complete blind fanboy if you think MS has A. more games B. a better system. MS is SOOOO out of touch...it's not even funny. Spying Kinect/Visual DRM/Fees/24 hour check-in/Region Locked/No BC/less powerful hardware/Most of their socalled 'Exclusives' are timed-exclusive or not exclusive at all(coming to PC or PS4 on a later date). All 3rd party games are also on PS4 and are significantly better(check 'The Division' gameplay footage)/PS4 is at least twice as powerful. PS4 has no region lock/no mandatory spying 3D Camera/no DRM/BC via GAKAI/The most powerful hardware/Best exclusives(over 48)/Best develop friendly environment/Best indie developer support/PS+ with instant game collection/6 games EVERY Month for free/free DLC etc etc. Why in the world would you still defend a sleazy patronizing corporate suit-club posing as gamer-friendly and gamer supportive? THEY HAVE BECOME SO TRANSPARANT AND ILLADVICED it is just not funny anymore...they look like a bunch of brainwashed freaks & out of touch with the real world. Their socalled 'future proof vision' is flawed and wrong and a complete lie.Everone that buys into the scenario is just asleep! Stop defending them, plz you make us gamers look bad. MS clearly doesn't give a shit about you or gaming, they are trying to hijack gaming to install their closed money grabbing system & advertisement hell. Keep repeating the lies MS! Good Job patronizing people and forcing your corporate(dictate the world) benefit model on the world. With PS4 we all benefit, yes the developers/publisher & gamers. You got it wrong. I know it is hard to admit cause your not used to be spoken to. The original Xbox360 team was great(JAllard & others) but these guys now make me sick.

[hellvaguy]

@Tyre

Good to see your passionate but I think your way too angry over the bias issues you pointed out. I mean I could go off on how I hate ps4 online isn't free. Or point out that MS did announce 13 exclusives. Or that MS is giving 2 free games on live month.

You don't really need to get that pist and defensive to the point of foaming at the mouth and insulting people. I don't like a lot of decision MS is making, but then there's a few ones I don't like with sony either. Just the way it goes. Don't buy it.

[Raccoon]

HELLVAGUY

This is how we do it...

[poopsack]

"recommends Xbox 360 for those without an Internet connection."

Skip next gen all together, they thought of everything!

[RiPPn]

How can he believe their product will become the industry leader when the last 2 generations of the product have came in last?

[M-M]

The things that money can make you say.

[Bathyj]

"Fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity; it's called Xbox 360," Mattrick said. "If you have zero access to the Internet, that is an offline device."

So hes telling me not to buy another Xbox console after the one I already have.

Finally MS you say something that relates to me.

And I actually cant believe MS is still stuck in stage 1 of the Kübler-Ross model. They should have left denial, gone through anger and be into bargaining already.

They are falling way behind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[Godmars290]

They need to have a strong launch, followed by an immediate sales stall.

Consumers, the market in general, has to be the one who tells them how wrong they are. How wrong most gamers online and in forums think they are.

And still, given advertising, it could very well turn out that we're all wrong.

[SpinalRemains]

I actually thought of Hitler @ the Nuremberg podium, spewing absurdities to the heavens, while I read that headline.

Give me a break.

It may succeed, but at the end of the day its still a corporate wet dream, and at the end of the Gen, it will be a Kinect shovelware/channel changer, AGAIN.

[XabiDaChosenOne]

It just goes to show that when they said "we are listning" it was just another way of saying "me too!".

[kingme71]

" And they're smart. So they look at all those things and say 'Hey, is this going to impact me in a negative way?'. And until you use it, it's really hard to understand what all the advantages are."

I'm looking at their used game policy in every way possible but can't come up with one advantage it has for me the consumer.

[hellvaguy]

More profit for gaming devs might mean better games. But that's being pretty dang optimistic. Just putting it out there.

[kewlkat007]

This guy on reddit pretty much explain what I fear was bound to happen..Xboxone took the first step and developers will be on board..

Quoted:

"On the user side, one of the reasons that /r/gaming seems to dislike the X1 is that they don't realize that they're not the X1's target playerbase. The X1 is being marketed towards youth who play games, casual game players, and people who want to use the X1 for multimedia purposes (as a HTPC of sorts). The PS4 is being marketed towards more general gamers. This is no different than the 360 and the PS3. There is also a good reason for Microsoft wanting to limit the ability to share/resell games...

... because game developers want them to. Microsoft has always been far more friendly with developers than Sony has been, from working with them to the development toolkits. Microsoft, just like Sony, makes most of their money on game licensing and not on the consoles themselves, so this is perfectly reasonable from their point of view, and enough people are likely to buy the X1 for it to be justified to them. This well-reasoned argument by TotalBiscuit on YouTube emphasizes the developer's position on this, and Microsoft is only paying heed to their actual customer (the developer; you aren't the customer, you're customer's customer to them). Used game sales and game-sharing does hurt developers, as much as /r/gaming won't admit that. Unlike music, movies, cars, etc, games don't have multiple revenue streams after purchase. The music industry continues to make money via concerts and royalties. The movie industry continues to make money via rentals, DVDs, royalties, syndication, etc. Cars break down. Games... don't. Games last virtually forever, and the only point at which the developer makes money is when they're sold. There are income models that get around that (MMO, free-to-play), but they aren't ideal in every situation (and indeed I dislike FTP). Companies like GameStop are quite literally stealing profit from developers, particularly when their business model is to convince people to buy used instead of new (they do this because they make far more profit on used games than new games). This is why Microsoft has been pushed by developers to support this model - because the game industry is hurting (and they really are, one only needs to look at all the terminations recently).

More interestingly, this isn't really any different than PC gaming. Do you use Steam? There really isn't game sharing/used games there. You don't even have physical media for most PC games anymore. Microsoft is only following in Valve's footsteps, here. Most media is moving towards digital formats, where restrictions on used media is easy and will be implemented. The former is what consumers want, the latter is going to be implemented at the want of content-makers.

Welcome to capitalism.
"

Again, I feel like this will eventually be a non issue. The games and dev support will prevail in the long run. I remember E-books got all the same thrashings, look at it now.

[Gamer-Z]

Did you see how he shut up Geoff Keighley at the end when he started talking about DRM & 24 hour check ins, he looked pissed.

[Agent_hitman]

Microsoft completely lost it. They're out of their mind.

[GraveLord]

Oh, the arrogance.

[Mikelarry]

first it was " we are going to kill sony at e3" and now this and they are still arrogant, i am getting a little scared they might know something we dont

[cyberninja]

Go home ms, bring Sega back!!!

[Mr_Nuts]

Ha...SEGA should come back to be honest

Use this as there advantage, get Sonic, ToeJam and Earl, Alex the Kidd, Ristar, Streets of Rage, NiGHTS, Shenmue etc and they'll be good to go.

Hell Valve should use this to their advantage with the Steambox

[GABRIEL1030]

"Microsoft: Xbox One will be leading product people love and embrace"

Hey Micro, seriously ¿ are you drunk?

[Nik_P757]

Oh you don't have means to connect to the internet? Well then MS doesn't want you in out next gen, by a 360. What a doucher.

[Jarhead1776]

BrutallyHonest said it right

MS hasn't been the same since Peter Moore left.

He was spot on.

[BuffMordecai]

In the Twilight Zone.

[NateCole]

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[ACEMANWISE]

Now I know why they started targeting the mass market. They need a large group of ignorant people that don't pay attention to the things they buy.

[glennco]

Ever since Nintendo released the Wii, MS has slowly lost the plot. All they see is nintendollars and they want a big slice of that market. I don't thiknk they care about games any more, they just want that casual dollar.

Do they even hire any gamers? Or is it just execs sitting in front of their Excel drooling of potential sales numbers.

OR

Maybe they will make more money from surveillance for the NSA than they can with games.

[ACEMANWISE]

There is much nongaming business potential with internet. So much can be done with consoles that can make these companies extra money.

They can advertise, sell consumer data to business and research, deliver movies, stores, music, and even cable now.

The problem I see is their complete disregard to a gamer's value. Microsoft has always reminded me of an "add-on" company. They don't seem to be in it for the games. They seek to improve what's already there.

Microsoft has a strong background in security and operating system software. So their interests will always inluence them to benefit themselves.

Sony did the same thing with BluRay when they put it in PS3. The difference here is that Sony is more hardware with TVs, stereos, and other entertainment devices. So their creations are more gaming related, whether intentional or not.

[Kratoscar2008]

Adam Orth would be proud.

[IBleedXbox]

LMFAO first with the One billion sales, now this. Dear Microsoft. Cocaine is a hella of a drug

[KrisButtar]

You know, even if I'm in an area where there isn't any cellphone coverage, and I roam, I can still download games when roaming. And then play them offline when I'm at home without coverage. I mean... my phone doesn't disable all of its own software when it goes out of cell tower reach.

So essentially, a phone is now a better gaming console than the XB1 if you're in an unconnected area?

[strigoi814]

Duh! $500 console of course you will love it...yup you must require to take drugs while defending this soo bad

[clevernickname]

If I want to buy a console where I can play next generation games without Internet access I will buy... a PS4.

Phil's comment about buying a 360 for off-line use is utter stupidity.

[Clarence]

Yeah just like Zune, surface, and windows 8.

[horndog]

Shut up and go fix the price

[Picnic]

"Fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity; it's called Xbox 360,".

We'll all just get that instead then. Well, no, let's make it a PS3.

[chuckyj1]

I think it's funny that MS fired Adam Orth for defending an Always-Online console... Then proceeded to come out with pretty much an always-online console...

[ErcanDaBeast]

Yeah totally that's why PS4 is top-selling console on Amazon? just admit it it was never designed for hardcore gaming it was truly aimed at family entertainment such as netflix and shit..... Sony always has been for gaming and occasionally films. What pisses me off is that they keep coming up with bullshit excuses, sorry i am not a hater. buy Xbox one if you want but its a waste of money in my book.

[NeloAnjelo]

Funny how they're the only ones saying it!

[threefootwang]

Incredible how arrogant these morons are. Can't believe I supported them for the last 6 years. I hope Xboner fails horribly.

The bigger they are, the harder they fall.

[medman]

I haven't stopped laughing since their reveal event. Ahh, Microsoft. They really know how to inspire consumer confidence. PS4.

[o-Sunny-o]

I want what he's taking. Must be good stuff. ^~^