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RROD: An Unhappy Ending

The system was repaired by after the initial warranty expired, and before the new extended 3-year warranty was authorized. He had to glue the magnet back onto the DVD drive. It worked great for a while. However, this constitutes tampering in the eyes of Microsoft, and therefore, when he sent it in for repair for the rings-of-death they returned it un-repaired with the nice letter to XBOX enthusiast stating such.

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Anego Montoya FTMFW5916d ago

Between Warrantys, and LOSING customers.

add it up.

they would have sold WAY more than 17 million in 2 1/2 years, if it weren`t for this.

Anego Montoya FTMFW5916d ago (Edited 5916d ago )

Wageslave must have a "BATSIGNAL" type device for everytime a RROD story is posted.

LOL.

@creepa

LOL.

yes, it is.

TheMART5916d ago

Well don't you get tired of bringing this as news?

Really. The only thing PS3 fans bring on because they're uncertain about their own device, because it's not the best choice for gaming, but hey it plays BluRay movies at least right...

As long as you all feel better keep posting, especially in the PS3 section also which it has nothing to do with. Also put it under the Wii, DS, PSP section and all what's more.

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You bought an Xbox5916d ago

I love the RROD
And every book in the world should have the RROD as an ending
To me them books would be the best ever cause they all would have happy endings

heyheyhey5916d ago

@TheCHILD

and you are back in the gamer zone why?

your copy and paste hate is getting old now

you must have said that "it plays BluRay films" line over 900 times now, all the while not realizing that your actually listing a major plus point of the PS3- and we all know how much you hate those

i mean at least if you were funny like Jaosn 360 or interesting like Bladestar, but no- your just plain annoying

power of Green 5916d ago (Edited 5916d ago )

I don't even know why 360 fans pay *Anego Montoya FTMFW's* posts any attention all he does is hunt for anti 360 news all day and night every day, its all he posts. Dude is getting so rabid he posts first in his own threads to set the tone in them?. lol Posting as if he's concerned for a company he likes. lol

MSFT would have sold way more if it weren't for Sony lieing about the PS3's launch dates twice to steal MSFT's thunder on top of lieing about PS3's capabilites causing millions to wait for PS3.

You shouldn't be allowed to contribute all your news is worthless and causes fans to ditch the site. Mods should be after people like you, you're hurting their site and lowering traffic, they need to figure out a way of controlling members that have anti company habbits and limit folks submitions when they troll news.

heyheyhey5916d ago

yet i get a feeling POG that if title had said "PS3 is a major failure" then you would be perfectly ok with that

the hypocrisy in you is off the charts mate- you just can't get it out

Ice2ms5916d ago

How Come All The Blatent Xbox/Microsoft Fanboys Still Have Like 5 Bubbles When People Like Anego and heyheyhey only have like 3 Bubbles For You Guys !

Also I Gave Up On My Xbox When It RROD FOR The 3rd Time :( But My Next Door Neigbour has one That Didn't RROD even Once So whenever a Good 360 Game Comes out i go next door lol and the agreement works the other way around so im sorted :)

Tarmgar5916d ago

I agree, they would have A LOT more if it weren't for the failures. And I'm one of them that hasn't bought one because of it. If it weren't for the failures, I would've had one by now.

mikeslemonade5916d ago

The 3 year warranty is over by November for the people who bought the 360 at launch, so if Microsoft doesn't fix the issue by then they all get screwed. Also if they fix it all those people who bought it will need to break the 360 to get the "fixed" sku making the failure rate even higher. The 360 owner right now loses either way because it's simply not feasible for Microsoft to correct every single 360 because "it's not if the the 360 breaks it's when".

To Power of Green and Mart: If there were negative PS3 news in the wild you two would post those articles too. It's just that the writing is on the wall and it's PS3's year. You two guys are part of the problem too and it angers you that there isn't more negative PS3 news.

solar5916d ago

@Tarmgar

its the reason why i dont own one. i cant justify buying a product that has that high of a rate. who would buy a car if a huge % had engine or transmission problems?

Thoas5915d ago

I thought about buying a Xbox 360 two weeks ago, but seeing a friend of mine get RROD right when he was going to play Bioshock and then seeing the youtube vid of microsoft have one of there xbox 360's get RROD at GDC '08. That made my mind up right away not to get a xbox 360.

Maddens Raiders5915d ago

is how long can MSFT have such loyal, faithful fans and continue to treat them this way?

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Anego Montoya FTMFW5916d ago

doesn`t REPORTING something 3 times make you feel a bit like a child.

AngryHippo5916d ago

Its just negative article after negative article posted again and again. This always is posted by the fans (losers) of the opposing consoles just to annoy people. This site should have a thing where only news about games gets posted in the respective 360 and PS3 sections. Another tab should be added at the top saying 'FLAMEWAR', where all the idiots can post flamebait articles as much as they want. This open zone and gamer zone seriously do not work. Articles like this once approved can only lead to one thing, bickering between little girls. And i dont know im the only one but i dont want to have to come on this site and see oh ANOTHER RROD article by another Sony fan.

PirateThom5916d ago

He did tamper with it, to be fair.

crazy250005916d ago

Yeah, he shouldn't have bought it and took it out of the box :/

Anego Montoya FTMFW5916d ago

but, you shouldn`t HAVE to fix it in the 1st PLACE.

and THAT is NOT his fault.

Mu5afir5916d ago (Edited 5916d ago )

Going by the Xbox fanboys monthra, you should never play with your system. I don't think disk drive issues, can cause a system to RROD. So, it's not his fault the system decided to go "sentinel" on him. It would be amazing to see, owners of the Xbox actually being outraged about the lack of support for the system. Then going around blaming the victim for once.

Bazookajoe_835916d ago (Edited 5916d ago )

We all know about rrod and it´s a freakin pain in the ass and 360 hardware were somwhat rushed, but why is it under ps3 section?

Edit: Lol, why am i getting disagrees?

travelguy2k5916d ago (Edited 5916d ago )

- edit, just found out it had been switched to industry.

zonetrooper55916d ago

Of course its his fault, he opened his 360 when MS tells you not to but he does it anyways. He voided his warranty and so its his fault he won't get it fixed...

Shankle5916d ago

Well what choice did he have at that time? The 360 had broken! There was no warranty covering it at the time. He didn't break it, it broke itself. He would either have to fix it or buy a new one. By opening it up he didn't void his warranty because there was no warranty covering it at the time. It's MS's fault it broke, they should fix it.

mmj5916d ago (Edited 5916d ago )

That's because at the time of its death Microsoft were still busy yanking everyones chains and flatly denying any major problems even existed.

How was he to know at that time that they'd soon be *forced* into extending the warranty? A games console failure rate of this magnitude was unheard of before Xbox 360.

uxo225916d ago

The 3 year warranty extention has been out for quite some time now. Which means that this 360 has been broken for over 9 months ago. Why is this story now being posted or released.

Whether it was suppose to break or not, can anyone tell me that if you tampered with your PS3 (like opened the case) that sony would honor any warranty work should the system need it. Even if the warranty work had nothing to do with why the case was open. I think not, so some of you guys really need to be a little more realistic and stop being blinded by your hatred for MS.

Had this been a Sony case, the same guys would be call this guy a idiot for opening his case. I know this and so do you. Remember the time when the guy was refused warranty work because his PS3 was dirty. Some of you guys spend your life's wages try to discredit his story. Some even bashed him for not taking better care of his PS3. Dirty or not, should sony have fixed the console...yes they should have especially being the unit was within the warranty period.

Please guys understand, I'm not trying to bash anyone here, I am just trying to make a point, and support it with past behavior. The constant, repeated anti-Microsoft stories should actually be getting boring for the typical PS3 fan. At least the more mature ones.

moparful995915d ago

Ok you didnt read the article properly.... He clearly stated that he had to fix the unit himself because there was no extended warranty at the time. Either he fixed it and hoped it worked(which it did) or buy a new one... Now microsoft up and extended the warranty on the RRoD issue only to 3 years, he said that his fix lasted for a long time until it red ringed on him. So he sent it to microsoft to fix the rrod issue and they refused it because he fixed a problem with the console that microsoft wouldnt recognize as there fault and still dont... You state that if a sony fan opened their case then we'd react the opposite and attack him. Now why would a sony fan open the case in the first place? There are no issues with the ps3 that arent covered by the warranty and all retailers sell an extended warranty. If he doesnt buy that warranty then its his own fault but considering that this guy had to fix a problem that pre-existed means its microsoft fault. Why are people so determined to take the mud off of microsofts face? They knowingly released a faulty product just to beat sony....

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Why Xbox believes it must cut costs and close studios

Companies, particularly public companies like Microsoft, need to grow.

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gold_drake8h ago

i mean its pretty simple, they spent close to 30 billion in acquiring activision, they thought they'd make it bk no problem, and that didnt happen.

its just shit that because of MS's miscalculation alot of people lost their jobs.

Jingsing4h ago

This is exactly what many people said would happen including the CMA and FTC. Lies lies and more lies and they allowed a $69 billion buy out to happen.

gold_drake4h ago

oh yeh it was 70 billion. that was my bad haha even worse.

thesoftware7304h ago(Edited 4h ago)

gold,

You can't be serious, right?

Do you think that MS thought they would make 80bill in a year & Half? They haven't even released titles under MS yet, lol.

But in fact, that A/B revenue is already paying off, look at the last earnings call. That $80 billion is long-term money, my guy, no sane person/company would think they would make that back in any short-term situation, it's a long-term investment.

Let's play silly then. If MS's reason for laying off staff and closing studios was due(which it really was not) to the A/B deal, tell me what Sony's reason was for past studio closures, the recent 900-person layoffs, closing Sony London, shutting down Dreams, and closing Japan Studio? Zipper? Psygnosis? cuts at all their internal studios.

Keep in mind, you are claiming MS's reason is because of the A/B deal; please explain Sony's reason.

Hofstaderman4h ago

You actually still defending them? Sheesh.....

gold_drake4h ago

this is not a sony vs MS debate. dont make it something it isnt.

and of course not, but im pretty sure they thought they'd make more money after the deal. they didnt, and closed off some studios.

its pretty insane to think there is any other reason for the closure of studios in this case.

romulus234h ago(Edited 4h ago)

(It really was) due to the Activision Blizzard deal and the loss of physical sales due to gamepass. You keep bringing up Sony in all your posts about this, stop deflecting and trying to change the topic, this is about MS and what they are doing.

BehindTheRows3h ago

Has nothing to do with Sony. Stay on topic.

notachance3h ago

once in a while you see someone too invested in their make-believe console war that everything happened has to be connected to said war…

a bit of banter between fans is normal, this crusade you’re doing now isn’t.

Chevalier3h ago

Wow idiotic. You bring up very old closures not that there haven't been recent ones from Playstations, but, seriously stop deflecting. This has NOTHING to do with Playstation.

Does Playstation got $3 trillion behind them and daddies wallet? No they don't so stop making a fool of yourself.

Xbox has never been profitable really and they just keep losing money so between their worst hardware sales, terrible 3rd party sales and now terrible 1st party sales.

Gamepass numbers that are no longer being announced shows their numbers after 3 years of missed targets has flatlined. Plus their recent gains up to 34 million were ONLY because they folded Gold members in too. Absolutely take your idiotic rhetoric out of here. Keep on topic without deflecting.

S2Killinit3h ago

Ayayayay with these xbox/MS excuses.

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thesoftware7301h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Drake,

"this is not a sony vs MS debate. dont make it something it isnt."

You are correct that it's not an MS Vs Sony Topic, but when exaggeration and imagination mix from a one-sided social group, similar examples are needed to ground radical thoughts; in this instance, the example was that shutting down 3,4,5, even 6 studios during a restructure/ buyout/acquisition is not some anomaly(it can suck) that has to be dissected or spell doom and gloom.

"But I'm pretty sure they thought they'd make more money after the deal. They didn't, and they closed off some studios."

But they did make more money, a lot, actually; the last earnings call showed a huge growth in profit, almost all due to A/B revenue.

"its pretty insane to think there is any other reason for the closure of studios in this case."

The fact that they did make money, kinda throws this out the window, and besides, you don't wake up and say, hey let's close a studio, you look at the output, you look at the dev as a whole, the long term and short term, you weigh it against all other studios and goals, you keep key members, ect..then you close if they are the weakest links...which by MS analysis they were.

Again, I will make a small Sony comparison, just so some of you can understand and see past the bias; Insomniac, ND, and Bungie have made some of the best games ever created, yet Sony saw fit to cut jobs in every of these studios, even tho Insomniac & ND are the biggest producers of PS games, leagues ahead better than Tango and Arkane, yet, they saw cuts, mind you, while being the TOP produces of PS first party. They were told to cut costs, and more jobs may be on the line, and Bungie is being threatened by a hostile Sony takeover. Put that in perspective, as I know that layoffs and dev closures are different, but if the best of the best is getting cut off, it is less than surprising, that lesser studios are closing.

@Cheva,
My response fits well with your comments as well. You even went on to prove that the dev closures are not just due to A/B acquisition. Then you point out Sony has less money than MS, inferring that MS should keep devs open that they see as lesser earners, while Sony having less money makes it okay to close them. lol...it doesn't work that way.

gold_drake1h ago

im not reading all of that. u have ur opinion, i have mine.

thats rly it.

but this aint sony vs ms.

ApocalypseShadow1h ago

You're trying to compare a 100 billion company to a company that has 3 TRILLION worth. SIE has to live or die on their own. And in turn, PlayStation has helped the main company again and again. Sony has to balance out what is working and not working in the company.

While Xbox has Daddy Warbucks footing the bill to keep the platform afloat. They have been bleeding money from Nvidia hardware in the OG Xbox, the RROD fiasco, the attempted 2013 DRM nonsense and the lies about being the most powerful console in the world and the losses of paying out millions to prop up a service hoping it catches on with enough subscribers to justify its existence.

They're not comparable if Xbox isn't allowed to live or die by its actions. It's subsidized. Revenue isn't profit. And if they were profiting on their own, they wouldn't be closing developers. If they were profiting, they wouldn't need Daddy Warbucks spending 80 to 100 billion buying up 3rd party publishers to sustain a loss leading platform.

They stopped announcing game sales, stopped announcing hardware sales, stopped announcing game pass subscribers, they are putting games on their competitors platforms but you're telling us that they are doing great even after killing jobs and closing developers at Xbox.

Stop drinking the Kool aid. You're drunk.

anast4h ago

They are going to use AI for a large portion of the game development process. Upper management need bonuses and the shareholders need more money. So, people will lose their jobs.

Skuletor4h ago

Maybe they were already using AI to make business decisions, which would explain why they closed Hi-Fi Rush's studio, then said they need more games like Hi-Fi Rush not long after that announcement.

Crows904h ago(Edited 4h ago)

They shouldn't have bought any studios. Some is okay...but they went on a shopping spree...stupid

Einhander19723h ago

The better question is why did Microsoft buy publishers for a service they were subsidizing they knew couldn't support.

And why are so many websites trying to make people feel sorry for Microsoft instead of truly criticizing the fact they are closing studios and killing jobs that would have been fine if Microsoft themselves hadn't gotten involved.

Quit feeling sorry for Microsoft and start feeling sorry for the industry and the all the gamers who are actually losing out.

THIS IS MICROSOFTS FAULT.

RNTody3h ago

The first thing that happens after any major acquisition or merger is a consolidation of the whole new portfolio, which includes cutting any excess, bloat or portfolios that don't fit the larger MO of the big boy. So far, it's been par for the course with Microsoft and that's why gamers have been so against this acquisition. Tango Gameworks is the beginning. You think Microsoft wants to pay to keep small timers like Ninja Theory in business?

There is absolutely zero evidence to suggest that Microsoft will improve any of these studios, but plenty to suggest that they will get rid of what they don't need and hold onto the IP. The real agenda of the acquisition was always to acquire The Elder Scrolls, Diablo, Fallout, Call of Duty, Candy Crush etc. that will create millions in passive revenue stream for Microsoft regardless of where the games release. Microsoft simply wants their cut.

Because of Games Pass Microsoft has no interest in investing in new IP which is risky and requires creative talent they can neither nurture nor manage. Game Pass has also not grown in the way Microsoft expected it to, even post acquisitions. Therefore the logical thing to do, without serious money makers to release, is to cut as much cost as possible.

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