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The X-Men: Xbox UK's Jon Grimes and Harvey Eagle on a successful year for 360

Microsoft UK bosses have suggested that whatever Sony announces next week won't damage Xbox 360.

Walker4122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

Maybe, but PS4 announcement will damage to PS3 sales and upcoming exclusives like the last of us .

Cocozero4122d ago

Exactly, unless they announce another pricecut

zeee4122d ago

It depends on the release date and of curse ps3 pricing. Lets not forget that ps2 still sold after ps4 launch. I guess a drop to $199 or $149 price point is going to explode ps3 sales even after the ps4 announcement. If Sony does announce a price drop, Microsoft are going to respond as well. They will not let Sony walk all over them and I hope they do. It'll be great for the gaming industry.

RuleofOne343 4122d ago

or it come with BC, cause if not they would be screwing themselves over.

RuleofOne343 4122d ago

better yet it come with BC, cause if not they would be screwing themselves over.

decrypt4122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

"better yet it come with BC, cause if not they would be screwing themselves over."

How will they be screwing themselves over. Benefits of no BC:

Can Sell remakes (hell they can be selling remakes of remakes God of war collection for PS4, Console gamers be prepared to get milked again).

Buyers of new console dont have old games so need to run out buy new games.

I see a win win situation for console makers not to release BC, and a lose lose situation for the console gamer.

Infact they would be in a better situation to discontinue online support for the PS3 few years after the PS4, forcing more people to buy the new console, not like console gamers can do anything about online getting shut down. Most fanboys will infact cheer the fact that they are getting screwed.. saying stuff like "oh they need to discontinue online support to better support PS4" lol.

DOMination-4122d ago

Well i think its kinda bad PR to not have BC and i imagine with many people it might be one of the deciding factors early on. Then making them pay again for a game they already own via a streaming service isn't going to sit well for some people.

Of course there are also many people who won't care about ps3 games when there's better ps4 titles to play. That's my view and if gaikai is cheap enough i would t have a problem buying the one or two games i may want to revisit in the coming years.

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DigitalSmoke4122d ago

you're wrong, the Last Of Us will go beyond Uncharted sales, easily.
And yes it will hurt the Xbox, it has been hurting for 3 years already software and sale wise, i dont care what Microsoft says.

koehler834122d ago

I'm curious about that.

Uncharted clearly has a broader appeal than Last of Us. I actually expect it to go the other way and not out-perform it. That may be a biased perspective because I'm not particularly interested in it myself, despite it obviously being amazingly high-quality.

I'm very interested to see how it plays out. In any event, I'm definitely not rooting for it to fail.

Jdoki4122d ago

I think we'd need to look at Uncharted 1 sales vs Last of Us, and then adjust for the larger install base now to really compare the two.

I think the game will be a success, but not sure it will outsell Uncharted 2 or 3 as it is a new IP. Although it also depends on how hard Sony market it. Uncharted 3 got a lot of TV adverts in the UK.

koehler834122d ago

@Jdoki

I think a comparison with Drake's Fortune, adjusted for a massive increase in userbase is probably a fair metric.

Oh_Yeah4122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

Your right, The Last of Us will probably sell better than Uncharted. One reason, zombies. People will eat anything up if it's got zombies in it

Jek_Porkins4122d ago

So you are saying Microsoft is lying about sales? 2012 wasn't as good for Microsoft as 2011, but 2011 saw the Xbox 360's best selling year on the market. When you sell 1 million consoles on Black Friday alone, you are doing something right and you don't have much to complain about.

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nukeitall4122d ago

I think there is some minor damage to sales, due to some people telling "regular customers" that a new one will be out, but the vast majority won't know.

If you know and follow the announcement, you likely already own both a PS3 and Xbox 360 by now.

It certainly wouldn't affect game sales, as people still want to consume the content now, not in 10 months.

@DigitalSmoke:

"it has been hurting for 3 years already software and sale wise, i dont care what Microsoft says."

You sure are trying to fan the smoke, but in this case there is no fire. So how about you show us instead of making up claims?

USEYOURFIST4122d ago

Only on n4g can you get disagrees for stating a completely valid point, sometimes I think hardcore gamers who come on sites like this forget they are just one section of the gaming consumer. I know many console buyers, who if it wasn't for me telling them, would no nothing of next gen until it was in the shops

morkendo234122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

HAPPY VALENTINE DAY LADIES haaaaaa

something new besides complainting.

Ghoul4122d ago

Its that simple guys as allways with big companys

If a huge company gives out a statement saying they dont care means they DO care

If a huge company doesnt care they just dont care and them dont comment it at all

Whatdo you do when somene tells you to not care and just relax
Exactly you SHOULD start caring since hes trying to hold you down.

RiseUp444122d ago

There are more people playing ps3 now than ever before, The last of us will be a hit only if it is marketed properly and the PS4 announcement will not do anything to its launch at all.

subtenko4122d ago

That doesnt make any sense, a game as good as The last of us will make me still buy it even if the PS4 is announced. What you think when they say "Here is the PS4!" That I will say "Well I dont want the last of us game anymore"? That doesnt make sense

DeadlyFire4122d ago

Not if backwards compatible. :P

dcbronco4122d ago

Walker announcing the PS4 will most likely hurt PS3 sales. So what. This generation is over. But it will do nothing to hurt sales of games. There are 75 million PS3s out there. Several million of those owners will still buy a good game.

garos824122d ago

excactly this. ill be still buying ps3 games when ps4 is finally released (whenever that is) and thats because i never buy new hardware on day 1. not because i dont want too but because its best to weather the storm before any shortcomings of any console.
traditionally all consoles i have ever bought have usually been around their first drop in price except for ps2 which i got as a present

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

@Walker

"Maybe, but PS4 announcement will damage to PS3 sales and upcoming exclusives like the last of us ."

They just stop selling ps2 1 month ago.. sooo..

Donnieboi4122d ago

Lol I laughed when the UK xbox heads say that: especially since PS3 is already beating Xbox 360 in the UK. If they think PS4's added presence won't have an effect, then they are dellusional. No wonder M$ has lost touch with it's [former] user-base. With clueless men like that running the company, it's amazing Xbox even sells anymore. Wow, those 2 men must be high off of those Xbox Live fees. Money sure has a way of clouding one's vision.

AngelicIceDiamond4122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

Realistically a PS4 announcement won't hurt the sales of the Xbox because its an ANNOUNCEMENT. Its not getting released the next day.

The interview confirms MS is no. no. 1 in the market. Not sure if that's in the UK or WW.

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iNathan4122d ago

But Xbox has nothing to do with PlayStation

Who buys Xbox wont buy Playstation 4 thats for sure.

So it wont affect but once Next Gen Xbox is announced 360 is done.

hennessey864122d ago

Well I'm an Xbox gamer and am with out a shadow of a doubt buying the PS4 as I did the PS3. Some of us are gamers not fanboys you no

Yi-Long4122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

... I'll buy whichever consoles look good to me.

This generation those have been the 360 and the PS4, and next-gen it will just depend on what the new consoles will be capable of, and if there will be any irritating limitations or whatever. ('always online' demands, game-activation to restrict 2nd hand games sales, etc etc)

If the next-gen consoles aren't backwards compatible forinstance, there's a very big chance I'll wait for the 'Steambox'.

I started this generation as an Xbox fan, never having owned a Playstation system before. And the 360 has been great as well.

However, the last few years Microsoft has been messing up IMHO (Personally not interested in motion-sensitive gaming, nor dashboard apps), and I feel Sony has improved after a slow start and has looked after my needs as a gamer more than MS, so at the moment I'm a bit more interested in the new PS4 than I am about the Xbox8.

Yi-Long4122d ago

... 'PS4' should be PS3, obviously.

HITANDRUN4122d ago

I agree, I think most of us cant afford 2 consoles, I only have PS3, but I think it was a mistake. I will wait and see what happened next gen, I almost gt the wiiu, im glad I did not.

BiggCMan4122d ago

^Exactly... Wtf is that about?? A lot of people who rode with Sony with PS1 and PS2 still shifted to the 360 only because it was the first HD console released, and they were disappointed (rightfully) with the PS3 when it had first launched.

Cocozero4122d ago

Why would they be scared they are about to past the Wii and become No 1 in the UK (as said in the MCV article where this comes from) and the US.

MS are ready to dominate next gen.

Prodigy-X4122d ago

PS3 77 million
360 76 million

Cocozero4122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

PS3: 75.1ml
360: 76.9ml

Check OFFCIAL finacial reports and try again ;)

@DigitalSmoke
Ok fine then the 360 is No 1 in the US and UK the too biggest regions. You just made the PS3 look even worse lol

DigitalSmoke4122d ago

Wii isn't even in the battle dude, its a kids toy which you Breakbox 3Fixme fools only use as a weapon against the superior Playstation 3.

Why dont you talk about the lack of exclusives?
What is it 12 against 1?

Its "hillarios"!!!! Kinect fan!

-MD-4122d ago

PS2 - 155 million
PS3 - 77 million

Embarrassing...

GribbleGrunger4122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

I'm sure once the PS3 has been on the market for as long as the PS2 was, that figure won't be quite so embarrassing then. It's interesting that you want to quote lifetimes sales for the PS2. Why didn't you find the sales for the PS2 at the point the PS3 released? The PS3 will never sell as many as the PS2 but it won't be at 77 million for another six years. My guess would be 115 million lifetime sales.

xursz4122d ago

I must say, was that the best you could come up with? Pitting PS2 numbers to PS3? And calling it embarrassing?

PS2 - 155 million
XBOX+Xbox360 - 110 million

What's embarrassing.

Karpetburnz4122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

@-MD-

PS2 is 12 years old
PS3 is only 6 years old.

You wait until PS3 is 12 years old, then thats when you can compare the sales between the two, Sure PS3 wont sell as well as PS2, but It wont be the HUGE gap you Xbots make it out to be, PS3 is well on track to selling over at least 110-120 million.

And Sony will be the only company to have their console sell over 100 million 3 generations in a row, While Microsoft can barely do that with their 2 consoles sales put together.

MikeMyers4122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

They won't be manufacturing PS3's for the next 6 years. You cannot use the PS2 as a level of expectations. The PS2 was hugely popular. Do you guys really think Nintendo is going to be making Wii's after 10 years of being on the market?

Both the Xbox 360 and the PS3 will continue to see year over year drops in sales. The market has become too competitive and is looking to ramp up in switching over to the next generation. The level of software support the PS2 got after the PS3 came out will not be the same once the PS4 comes out.

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PFFT4122d ago

Actually, its sony thats scared. Werent they the ones that said that they would let Ms make the first move??? Then they came out saying that they would have a special event with an announcement on the 21st of Feb. If that doesnt scream fear i dont know what does.

kenshiro1004122d ago

And you took PR talk as the gospel truth? What was Sony going to say - we're going in first? They're not going to let Microsoft know what they're planning...

Common sense, use it.

GribbleGrunger4122d ago

'The console that you bought when we launch versus the one today is totally different.'

Without question.

jeffgoldwin4122d ago

correct. the ps3 launch had bc, current version does not

nukeitall4122d ago

My PS3 also used to have OtherOS, before Sony legally stole that feature away from me.

Minato-Namikaze4122d ago

Doesn't even matter, I have so many ps3 games, I dont even have time to go back and play my ps2 games. BC is really only needed for the 1st year or two.

Lvl_up_gamer4122d ago

Don't forget:

Phat had more USB ports
touch sensitive on/off and eject buttons
auto loader
overall better material used for the design

Chris5584122d ago

Well ps4 but 2013exlusive games will

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10 Biggest Xbox Mistakes of All Time (So Far)

The Xbox brand has done a lot of good over the years, but their various blunders are pretty wild to look back on in their magnitude.

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piroh5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Ironically number 9 can save them at this point (releasing games on multiple platforms)

ChasterMies4d ago

By “save them” you mean make more profit for Microsoft. Xbox will still be a dying hardware platform.

OtterX4d ago

You could add the naming scheme for the consoles, it just confuses customers. I know they wanted to avoid traditional numbering bc it would always be lower than their competitor, but this whole 360 then One then Series thing is confusing af. Imagine a Soccer Mom trying to figure this stuff out. I still mistakenly call the Series X the One from time to time on accident.

RNTody4d ago

Don't forget about the Xbox One, Xbox One X and Xbox Series X! Good luck to Soccer moms around the world.

S2Killinit4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

They did that on purpose to confuse and direct attention away from the generational numbering.

MS doesn’t like reminding people that they joined the industry after others had already been involved in gaming.

For instance, they called the xbox “360” to combat PlayStation “3” because they wanted to seem like “more” than “3”, so instead of xbox 2, they opted for xbox 360. Also this had the additional benefit of selling consoles to uninformed parents who might purchase a “360” instead of a “3” by mistake, or because they thought 360 was more than 3. Kind of a disingenuous move.

They have been continuing with their confusing naming patterns for pretty much the same reasons. Frankly, it fits with who and what they are as a brand.

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

I can understand their reasoning, but whoever came up with that naming scheme should be fired, bad naming schemes have killed consoles (I'm pretty sure it was the major reason for the downfall of the WiiU). They should have had unqiue names like Nintendo and Sega have had for their consoles, far less confusing for the consumer.

rob-GP11h ago

@FinalFantasyFanatic "They should have had unqiue names like Nintendo..."

lol, you mean:

NES, SNES
GameBoy, GameBoy Advanced, GameBoy Colour, GameBoy SP
DS, DSi, DSXL
3DS, 3DS XL, New 3DS, New 3DS XL
Wii, Wii U
Switch, Switch OLED

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Cacabunga4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Phil Spencer is the worst that has happened to Xbox.
They built a respectable brand up to Xbox one. Then this guy took over and things became a joke

Reaper22_4d ago

He still has his job. Something you can't say about Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga4d ago

Both bad execs. One is on job and one thankfully retired.

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I didn't like either person, both people damaged their respective brands and produced worse outcomes, but Phil did save the Xbox brand from being retired by Microsoft. Although in hindsight, he should have just let it die, rather than languish in limbo like it is now.

Rainbowcookie3d ago

Yeah but the one that was "bad" didn't even affect sales.

bunt-custardly4d ago

Phil Spencer was also on the team back when 360 was around, alongside Shane Kim, Peter Moore etc. I think the damage that did the most harm was the Don Mattrick "Always Online" console (ahead of its time basically). They handed Sony and Nintendo a free-pass when that was revealed. It went downhill from there. Then the corporate machine went into full swing to try and recover. They have to a degree as a games company for the masses, and less so for the core gamer. Outside USA, the Xbox brand does not sell as well as Japanese based consoles (citation needed).

Cacabunga4d ago

Want a decision maker. The always online and TV plans was a disaster yes, but they caught up by announcing 1st party games that gamers actually kept the hype going.. until this moron took over and introduced the PC day one release.. e all know where that ended..

S2Killinit4d ago

I dont think they were ever a respectable brand, not since the beginning, when their goal was never to be involved and share in the gaming space. I think the OG xbox was an exception because MS as a brand was still getting its foot in and so the people behind that were people of the gaming industry.

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

The 360 was the brand in its prime though, everything went downhill towards the end of that generation. Its staple games like Halo, Forza and Gears are what kept the console relevant and afloat for so long.

MaximusPrime_4d ago

Really good video.

I remember the days with RRoD was big news on here, N4G.

Microsoft had it turbulence number of years.

Looking at the success of Sea of Thieves despite being 6 years old, time to release Halo, Forza horizon 4 & 5 on PS5. It'll help their revenue

shinoff21834d ago (Edited 4d ago )

2 of the 4 games they did already sold really well. So it's definitely going down. Idk about halo or forza but I feel those studios they've bought in the last 5 years, their coming

ChasterMies4d ago

I found this video painful to watch. Can someone list them out?

Top 10 for me from are:
1. 2013 reveal presentation
2. Bundling Kinect 2 with Xbox One
3. RRoD or why rushing to market with hardware is always a bad idea.
4. Buying studios only to close them.
5. Ads on the Home Screen
6. Letting Halo die.
7. Letting Geard of War die.
8. Every console name
9. Charging for Xbox Live on Xbox 360 when Sony let PS3 players play online for free.
10. Cancelling release of OG Xbox games after the Xbox 360 launched.

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Microsoft to Add Copilot AI to Video Games

Microsoft recently revealed its plans to incorporate Copilot directly into video games, with Minecraft being the first showcased example.

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Fishy Fingers9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

F*** AI

"Hey Copilot, what's a good meme to prove I dislike AI".... https://giphy.com/clips/sou...

Einhander19729d ago

Two trillion dollar company that just can't wait to put as many people possible out of work as fast as possible.

It feels like every single thing they do is making gaming worse and destroying the industry.

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darthv728d ago

....you know it takes people to program the AI.... right? It isnt like it is sentient. We haven't reach skynet level of situation or anywhere close to the matrix just yet.

That's next Thursday.

Einhander19728d ago (Edited 8d ago )

It takes a people to program the AI then that AI is used for who knows how many games eliminating countless jobs which only grows as AI is used for more and more game creation functions.

What you're saying is so ridiculously short sighted and truly larking any kind of understanding and foresight.

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CaptainFaisal8d ago

Why all the hate? Im actually excited about this! Always wanted this kind of immersion, and an AI companion with me all the time helping me out knowing the status of my skills/inventory/progress and giving me tips on the best approach or how to craft something specific is game changing for the industry.

Hate all you want about AI, but this is just the start and I can see the potential already. You wont be complaining in the next 5-10 years about this, but rather complain if a game hasn’t implemented it.

MrDead8d ago

Yes we can't wait for the work of others to be used without the need to pay them so that MS can profit even more from the people they fire.

I_am_Batman8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

There is no chance I'd ever use something like this, especially if it's not part of the core game design, but a layer on top of it. It's way too much handholding. Many games already feel like busy work, because they don't let the player figure things out on their own. Having a real-time interactive guide defeats the purpose of playing the game in the first place in my opinion.

If this were to become the standard like you predict, we'll see more and more video games get away with bad design, because people will just be used to ask for help from the AI companion anyway.

Number1TailzFan8d ago

Well Nintendo don't need this with some of their games these days, with invincible characters, items, easy bosses etc.. they do the hand holding built in

helicoptergirl8d ago

Takes "hand holding" in games to a whole new level.

BlackDoomAx7d ago

Because human nature xD Almost every new technology had these kind of comments.

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Activision team is opening a new game studio in Poland 'Elsewhere Entertainment' to build new AAA IP

Microsoft's Activision subsidiary announced today that it is opening a new game development studio to take advantage of the huge talent pool growing in Poland. It'll be the second Activision studio based in the region, joining Infinity Ward Krakow, although this studio is, in fact, not working on Call of Duty.

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Psychonaut8512d ago

They’re not working on Call of Duty? Give it time.