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Microsoft comments on "leaked" Xbox 720 strategy document

Many of you might have read about a purported internal Microsoft strategy document that apparently "leaked" earlier this week, outlining its plans for the next Xbox system.

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DaThreats4361d ago

They didn't deny it
Seems the documents were legit

aviator1894361d ago

I just hope some of the specs have changed somewhat since these plans were drawn out in 2010.

MRHARDON4361d ago (Edited 4361d ago )

I don't expect the processor to change, maybe the graphics card will be a bit more powerful, using a variation of the ati 7000 series.

Other than that, the specs wont change greatly.

ApplEaglElephant4361d ago

Do you think it takes 2 months to build a new console? They just put random things toghether and call it a day?

No. These things take years of R&D. If Xbox 720 were to be released in 2013, ofc the plan would have to be drawn in 2010. to give few years to design and such.

We all know Xbox 720 isnt going to be much powerful from just looking at how MS was focusing heavily on casuals. They are all about kinects and casuals. They may have few exclusives lined up on launch to draw some gamers in, but that will dry up within a year or two.

RBlaze4361d ago

The fact that they didn't deny doesn't necessarily imply that the docs were legit.

They neither confirmed them nor denied the documents, just simply ignored them. So I don't think this is even really news...

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Spydiggity4361d ago (Edited 4361d ago )

you really need to learn how to draw conclusions. you don't have a clue how rational thinking works.

we all know? give me a break. we don't KNOW anything.

avengers19784361d ago

I imagine that they will use more up to date tech. but the general concept is probably right. If they use 2 year old tech they sort of doom them selves.

darthv724361d ago

neither confirm nor deny. It looks like the typical PR comment of "no comment" other than them talking up the 360.

Are people expecting them to pull a tony stark and admit that there is a 720? We know they are working on it but they obviously wont show anything until they feel it is time to do so.

Similar to sony and their claim of not showing the ps4 until it is significant enough of an upgrade to existing gen.

JackBNimble4360d ago

ApplEaglElephant
there is no R&d in current tech... they just need to figure out how to do it at an affordable price for consumers.

ON TOPIC... MS didn't give an answer either way, their just feeding you all the hype that they want.

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greenpowerz4361d ago (Edited 4361d ago )

You seem concerned about xbox. Are you buying one? 56 page fake was unlikely to most from the start. I thought it was real based on the number of cores and the DVR claim. Can't wait to see what the video processing will be like for the BLU RAY drive. I like watching video content on XBL more than on my stand alone Bd player because of XBL.

killerhog4361d ago (Edited 4361d ago )

Should've gotten yourself a ps3 then dude, blu-ray and a bunch of video streaming options (some of which Ms just included).

P.S
Can't find something? That's okay use media search, Dropbox, or find what you're looking for in the web browser and save it directly to the ps3 HDD.

greenpowerz4361d ago (Edited 4361d ago )

Why would I buy a PS3 when I want a next gen xbox? LoL

I simply said I wanted to see if the 720 Blu-Ray picture matched my stand alone BLU RAY player picture(Bdc6900) Why would I buy A PS3-a-current-gen-console with a inferior picture to my current standalone player, with PSN not being as rich. to satisfy my next gen needs?

The trolls in here suggesting or implying the leaked specs are weak don't understand 8 times more powerful is a lot. Yes things will be revised, that a given, they could have completely changed hardware components and or brands by now. Stronger than the specs leaked for the PS4 .

Just want the video processor/processing to be solid vs the inferior processing of dvds in the 360. I used my 80gig ps3 fat for BD movies, the samsung was gifted to me revealing it's picture far better than what the PS3 had

Is it just me that feels like there are more PS3 fans in xbox news than there is xbox fans at all times.

ArtificiallyYours4361d ago (Edited 4361d ago )

There are many, many talented individuals who can forge documents of massive size. Let's not underestimate the capabilities of a forger.

That said, this is looking increasingly real, expecting to hear and or read further news related.

tee_bag2424361d ago

@Greenpowerz
MS isn't exactly known for their video processing and codecs - so don't expect the world. You shouldn't be such a blind fanboy and give Sony credit when it's due... The PS3 clearly spanked any 360 or other Blu ray player that money could buy. That's before even talking about its Media Center capabilities.
Iv whored both systems in this way, i can speak from experience here so i dont care to hear your 1 sided rebuttal either.

Kurt Russell4360d ago

If a new xbox comes out, I'm buying it.

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FamilyGuy4361d ago

Yeah I'm pretty sure it WAS real, and that they've made a few changes in their plans since 2010 but that it is relatively similar to what was leaked.

afterMoth4361d ago

Pathetic. At least being as powerful as a PS3 would be much better and more appealing.

donman14361d ago

This document now has legs. They may change a few things but the majority of the information now seems legit.

GraveLord4361d ago

Of course they're legit. Why else would Microsoft get the documents taken down for copyright infringement?

JsonHenry4361d ago

would have been smarter AND cheaper just to leave it up. Having it taken down by threats from a lawyer just makes it appear true.

nukeitall4360d ago

Because it is spreading misinformation?

Misinformation can be very damaging to a company, because it sets up expectations. That's partly how Sony killed the Dreamcast, because Sony managed to drum up so much hype for the PS2.

In a similar vein, if you paint an expectation of something unreachable, and then the product releases it's going to be disappointing, even though it might be a great product!

-Superman-4361d ago

Like you read: Focus on kinect.
It will be another kinect console

nukeitall4360d ago

Hopefully Kinect will be responsive enough to satisfy the hardcore gamers needs! :D

Brownghost4361d ago

or they dont want the wrong message sent

Hayabusa 1174360d ago

I wouldn't be 100% sure about that. If I were Microsoft I'd do exactly what they did: release an official statement that doesn't out right confirm or deny it. Sheople will naturally think silence is consent, thence accept the rumour as true when in reality the final specs could be better then the rumuor. Infact, maybe MS deliberately released the document to through people off: and they're only going to through people off by showing something that seems plausable.

There's only one problem: I'm not sure any corporate company is that smart - or maybe brave is the word. In which case, these rumours are probebly true then, not a elaborate fabrication to hide their real plans.

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Neko_Mega4361d ago

If Xbox 720 specs are right and it can play 360 games too (That means all), I think I might get one. I know I might get the WIi U just for Mario and Zelda games.

What I wonder is if it has bluray in it, wouldn't that mean Sony is making money off of the Xbox 720 do to Sony owning the rights to bluray? This wouldn't be much of a shock, mostly because Sony and Microsoft do work together (but mostly on PC's).

CYCLEGAMER4361d ago (Edited 4361d ago )

Sony does not own blu-ray, I do not know where that is coming from, bluray is a format not a brand. Its almost like saying Sony owns 3d.

TheLyonKing4361d ago

Sony and many others are the fathers of blu-ray. They own a % of the profits.

Along with others they did create the new storage medium.

guitarded774361d ago (Edited 4361d ago )

Don't know why theLyonKing is getting disagrees... I guess people just click disagree out of stupidity. I honestly don't know if Sony gets a %, but they are part of the group that developed and continue to oversee the development of blu-ray.

check link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

darthv724361d ago

MS also has a stake in the bluray format. They initially were playing both sides (HDDVD/Bluray) due to their VC-1 codec being available for both.

Bluray support various codecs and VC-1 is one of them. MS is also a partner with disney and sony and several others over the creation and use of the AACS drm on bluray discs.

MS has their fingers in almost everything.

cee7734361d ago (Edited 4361d ago )

sony gets royalties off every blu ray disc/ blu ray drive sold so yes they will make money off xbox if it includes it.

_-EDMIX-_4361d ago

@darthv72-THANK YOU! I hate when people keep making it sound like MS is not going to add Bluray because "its Sonys"

Um...yes Sony has a stake in Bluray's success...so does about a quarter of the tech industry including MS themselves.

Bluray WILL BE IN 720. I find it sad if people think that this is some sort of big news. They said it themselves that when the time came THEY WILL add Bluray.

Sony also helped push CD-Rom back in the day AND DVD...so it would mean that Sony is "making money off" 360 dvds too. Only new peps to gaming seem to think this yet disregard Sony's involvement in the very format that is in the 360 RIGHT NOW! I just can't stop laughing!

BitbyDeath4361d ago

@darthv72, MS admitted they only added HD-DVD in 360 to take market share away from Blu-ray.

They have no stake in Blu-ray otherwise their would also be a Blu-ray player addon.

darthv724361d ago

@bitbydeath, you may be a bit misinformed. Not wrong but just a bit misinformed. MS went with the hddvd to stall bluray while at the same time were building their primary goal.

Digital distribution.

Their intent was to have an all digital media center but people were hesitant about it at first. Now we have full digital releases of movies, music and games on not only the 360 but the ps3 as well.

MS idea of digital distribution may have seemed pretty hard to achieve then but now it is an integral part of how things work.

As for a bluray add-on...that wouldnt benefit them very much. Especially when you see bluray players are so cheap these days. Even sony is facing stiff competition from the likes of lg, samsung, rca and vizio for cheap stand alone bluray players that are offering all sorts of streaming features.

bluray used to be a selling point to the ps3 when players were more expensive. Like when the ps2 was the cheap dvd player in its time until prices got really cheap.

Now the selling point is obviously the games but if someone is looking for a cheap bluray player, the ps3 isnt it anymore.

BitbyDeath4360d ago

@darthv72, i agree 100% :-)

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JAMurida4361d ago (Edited 4361d ago )

Nah, Sony doesn't own Blu-ray:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

It was just a big feature at the time, and even now, to have in the PS3.

shoddy4361d ago

I would say Sony make more money on bluray tech than MS.
Finally welcome to bluray after 7 years.

killerhog4361d ago

Sony makes a lot of dough from Ms. Remember Ms uses Sony's music and movies catalog, now blu-ray (next gen). Boy let's hope Ms doesn't skimp on paying Sony like they did Motorola.

DiRtY4361d ago

BluRay uses a MS patent btw. and Sony sells Windows PCs.

Brownghost4361d ago

microsoft would have to pay royalties for blu ray usage

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Optical_Matrix4361d ago

It was legit. The fact a law firm who's client base consists of various companies INCLUDING Microsoft, got the source website to take down the document is very telling.

360GamerFG4361d ago

That response was laiden with so much meh!

CYCLEGAMER4361d ago

IMO, this would have been MS response no matter if the document was real or fake.

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10 Biggest Xbox Mistakes of All Time (So Far)

The Xbox brand has done a lot of good over the years, but their various blunders are pretty wild to look back on in their magnitude.

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piroh5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Ironically number 9 can save them at this point (releasing games on multiple platforms)

ChasterMies4d ago

By “save them” you mean make more profit for Microsoft. Xbox will still be a dying hardware platform.

OtterX4d ago

You could add the naming scheme for the consoles, it just confuses customers. I know they wanted to avoid traditional numbering bc it would always be lower than their competitor, but this whole 360 then One then Series thing is confusing af. Imagine a Soccer Mom trying to figure this stuff out. I still mistakenly call the Series X the One from time to time on accident.

RNTody4d ago

Don't forget about the Xbox One, Xbox One X and Xbox Series X! Good luck to Soccer moms around the world.

S2Killinit4d ago (Edited 3d ago )

They did that on purpose to confuse and direct attention away from the generational numbering.

MS doesn’t like reminding people that they joined the industry after others had already been involved in gaming.

For instance, they called the xbox “360” to combat PlayStation “3” because they wanted to seem like “more” than “3”, so instead of xbox 2, they opted for xbox 360. Also this had the additional benefit of selling consoles to uninformed parents who might purchase a “360” instead of a “3” by mistake, or because they thought 360 was more than 3. Kind of a disingenuous move.

They have been continuing with their confusing naming patterns for pretty much the same reasons. Frankly, it fits with who and what they are as a brand.

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

I can understand their reasoning, but whoever came up with that naming scheme should be fired, bad naming schemes have killed consoles (I'm pretty sure it was the major reason for the downfall of the WiiU). They should have had unqiue names like Nintendo and Sega have had for their consoles, far less confusing for the consumer.

rob-GP4h ago

@FinalFantasyFanatic "They should have had unqiue names like Nintendo..."

lol, you mean:

NES, SNES
GameBoy, GameBoy Advanced, GameBoy Colour, GameBoy SP
DS, DSi, DSXL
3DS, 3DS XL, New 3DS, New 3DS XL
Wii, Wii U
Switch, Switch OLED

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Cacabunga4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Phil Spencer is the worst that has happened to Xbox.
They built a respectable brand up to Xbox one. Then this guy took over and things became a joke

Reaper22_4d ago

He still has his job. Something you can't say about Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga4d ago

Both bad execs. One is on job and one thankfully retired.

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I didn't like either person, both people damaged their respective brands and produced worse outcomes, but Phil did save the Xbox brand from being retired by Microsoft. Although in hindsight, he should have just let it die, rather than languish in limbo like it is now.

Rainbowcookie2d ago

Yeah but the one that was "bad" didn't even affect sales.

bunt-custardly4d ago

Phil Spencer was also on the team back when 360 was around, alongside Shane Kim, Peter Moore etc. I think the damage that did the most harm was the Don Mattrick "Always Online" console (ahead of its time basically). They handed Sony and Nintendo a free-pass when that was revealed. It went downhill from there. Then the corporate machine went into full swing to try and recover. They have to a degree as a games company for the masses, and less so for the core gamer. Outside USA, the Xbox brand does not sell as well as Japanese based consoles (citation needed).

Cacabunga4d ago

Want a decision maker. The always online and TV plans was a disaster yes, but they caught up by announcing 1st party games that gamers actually kept the hype going.. until this moron took over and introduced the PC day one release.. e all know where that ended..

S2Killinit4d ago

I dont think they were ever a respectable brand, not since the beginning, when their goal was never to be involved and share in the gaming space. I think the OG xbox was an exception because MS as a brand was still getting its foot in and so the people behind that were people of the gaming industry.

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

The 360 was the brand in its prime though, everything went downhill towards the end of that generation. Its staple games like Halo, Forza and Gears are what kept the console relevant and afloat for so long.

MaximusPrime_4d ago

Really good video.

I remember the days with RRoD was big news on here, N4G.

Microsoft had it turbulence number of years.

Looking at the success of Sea of Thieves despite being 6 years old, time to release Halo, Forza horizon 4 & 5 on PS5. It'll help their revenue

shinoff21834d ago (Edited 4d ago )

2 of the 4 games they did already sold really well. So it's definitely going down. Idk about halo or forza but I feel those studios they've bought in the last 5 years, their coming

ChasterMies4d ago

I found this video painful to watch. Can someone list them out?

Top 10 for me from are:
1. 2013 reveal presentation
2. Bundling Kinect 2 with Xbox One
3. RRoD or why rushing to market with hardware is always a bad idea.
4. Buying studios only to close them.
5. Ads on the Home Screen
6. Letting Halo die.
7. Letting Geard of War die.
8. Every console name
9. Charging for Xbox Live on Xbox 360 when Sony let PS3 players play online for free.
10. Cancelling release of OG Xbox games after the Xbox 360 launched.

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Microsoft to Add Copilot AI to Video Games

Microsoft recently revealed its plans to incorporate Copilot directly into video games, with Minecraft being the first showcased example.

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Fishy Fingers8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

F*** AI

"Hey Copilot, what's a good meme to prove I dislike AI".... https://giphy.com/clips/sou...

Einhander19728d ago

Two trillion dollar company that just can't wait to put as many people possible out of work as fast as possible.

It feels like every single thing they do is making gaming worse and destroying the industry.

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darthv728d ago

....you know it takes people to program the AI.... right? It isnt like it is sentient. We haven't reach skynet level of situation or anywhere close to the matrix just yet.

That's next Thursday.

Einhander19727d ago (Edited 7d ago )

It takes a people to program the AI then that AI is used for who knows how many games eliminating countless jobs which only grows as AI is used for more and more game creation functions.

What you're saying is so ridiculously short sighted and truly larking any kind of understanding and foresight.

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CaptainFaisal8d ago

Why all the hate? Im actually excited about this! Always wanted this kind of immersion, and an AI companion with me all the time helping me out knowing the status of my skills/inventory/progress and giving me tips on the best approach or how to craft something specific is game changing for the industry.

Hate all you want about AI, but this is just the start and I can see the potential already. You wont be complaining in the next 5-10 years about this, but rather complain if a game hasn’t implemented it.

MrDead8d ago

Yes we can't wait for the work of others to be used without the need to pay them so that MS can profit even more from the people they fire.

I_am_Batman8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

There is no chance I'd ever use something like this, especially if it's not part of the core game design, but a layer on top of it. It's way too much handholding. Many games already feel like busy work, because they don't let the player figure things out on their own. Having a real-time interactive guide defeats the purpose of playing the game in the first place in my opinion.

If this were to become the standard like you predict, we'll see more and more video games get away with bad design, because people will just be used to ask for help from the AI companion anyway.

Number1TailzFan8d ago

Well Nintendo don't need this with some of their games these days, with invincible characters, items, easy bosses etc.. they do the hand holding built in

helicoptergirl8d ago

Takes "hand holding" in games to a whole new level.

BlackDoomAx7d ago

Because human nature xD Almost every new technology had these kind of comments.

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Activision team is opening a new game studio in Poland 'Elsewhere Entertainment' to build new AAA IP

Microsoft's Activision subsidiary announced today that it is opening a new game development studio to take advantage of the huge talent pool growing in Poland. It'll be the second Activision studio based in the region, joining Infinity Ward Krakow, although this studio is, in fact, not working on Call of Duty.

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Psychonaut8512d ago

They’re not working on Call of Duty? Give it time.