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Hellblade 2 Review Embargo Lifts On Launch Day

The review embargo for Hellblade 2 appears to lift on the same date as the launch of the game, just an hour before it's available.

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blackblades13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Reviews dont usually spoil its usually the players that get it early spoils it

Cacabunga13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Like all other games being reviewed before launch day ?

This game will disappoint many players. Ninja Theory’s last game

Barlos13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

A well written review normally won't spoil anything though.

Come on, we all know it's usually not a good sign when the review embargo lifts on launch day. Doesn't mean to say the game is going to be bad or anything, but it does often point to a lack of confidence.

OtterX13d ago

@Cacabunga Microsoft will dismantle Ninja Theory, even if the game reviews well, Bc that's how they roll! 😎

_SilverHawk_13d ago

That's quite strange and early. They should lift review embargo a week after the game launches

Cacabunga13d ago

OtterX

Unfortunately true.
I wish they stayed independant and signed with big publishers to develop some great licences like DMC.
I think Heavenly Sword 2 would def be successful if done right. Same way they can be the Bluepoint Games of action games.

Crows9012d ago

Ummm...review embargos have nothing to do with spoilers...if someone gets it early they can still spoil it

romulus2312d ago

Games can be reviewed without spoiling.

ThinkThink12d ago

If they didn't provide review copies until launch day, I would agree with you, but reviewers got their review codes this week. Since it's only an 8 hour game, that's plenty of time to have a review ready. I'm taking the studio heads word though, based on yesterday's interview.

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lelo2play13d ago

Reviews on launch day is never a good sign.
If this games fails, goodbye Ninja Theory.

MrBaskerville12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

There has been good games where this happened. I think they did it to Arkanes Prey, which was a very good game. But it shows a lack of interest/faith from the publisher.

With Senua I think it's more that Ms could 't care less about a prestige project like this atm. They have pivoted and only want big hitters, so why put money in supporting Senua? Just throw it out there and move on. It's the last part of their old vision for xbox and no longer relevat. A Phil Spencer game.

Sadly. Game will probably be very good, like the first one.

romulus2312d ago

Potentially even if it doesn't fail. HiFi Rush was critically praised by journalists and gamers alike and look what happened to Tango.

PapaBop12d ago

Well they'll be in good company, next Microsoft will have to buy EA for their graveyard building expertise, I'm sure Spencer would only just dig half a grave now, then finish it later.

Ninver12d ago

Even if it does remotely well they're still getting the 🪓 from lumberjack MS.

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DarXyde12d ago

Personally, I think the game will flop commercially. It doesn't really have any visible marketing campaign from what I can tell. It's also clearly got a hefty budget and development cycle. I'm sure this doesn't have a AA budget.

Critically... I'm not sure. I think if it's judged as its own product, it'll be fine. 85+ on metacritic, I'm thinking. But the problems I see this game's score running into are comparisons to the original which touched on some fascinating concepts (and thereby set a high bar already) and the time between announcement and release. Quite some time, and this was the game that introduced the Series X. I think if reviewers and gamers remove themselves from those two things, it's a good game. But my sense is that's going to influence perceptions quite a bit.

MrBaskerville12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Would have been a perfect launch title tbh . The way it showcases the power of xbox.

seanpitt2312d ago

6/10 confirmed.. they are definitely hiding something probably the length and replay value

Bathyj12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I mean what does it even matter? People aren't going to buy it anyway. They are going to play it on Game pass.

Will they not download it if the reviews don't come out the day of release?

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Tacoboto13d ago

That's not a good sign.

Review codes have been sent out as of 8 hours ago (according to Tom Henderson on X) so at least they aren't withholding those... But you'd think with confidence they'd want positive reviews to get buzz going online the weekend before release.

... But if they're expecting mid reviews, yeah sure lift that embargo when most people are asleep.

Kornholic13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

MS might be withholding review codes from more critical reviewers to inflate the launch window Metascore. Just like they did with Starfield.

Jingsing13d ago

Yeah, They've been doing that for a while. Picking and choosing publications. At the end of the day if you do that then don't be surprised if that taints reviewers attitude towards your game.

helicoptergirl13d ago

This is the first time I'm starting to think that MS may actually want this game to not do well so they can more easily justify closing the studio down? Am I crazy for suddenly thinking that? I mean, no advertising. Review embargo on launch day? This game and studio goes against what Matt Booty has said they will be focusing on going forward in regards to their business.

I know people were speculating and half joking that Ninja Theory "is next". But this is the first time I get that feeling in my stomach. I'm probably thinking too much into it. Anyway, I hope I'm wrong.

MrBaskerville12d ago

Wouldn't go that far, but they must have spent a fortune on it and I can't imagine it being very profitable. I don't think current day MS would greenlight it.

DarXyde12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

More appropriately, it makes more sense to believe they really expected the acquisitions of such major publishers to increase game pass subs with high retention. This doesn't seem to be the case though, and Activision cost an extraordinary penny.

At this point, it's just about turning things around quickly.

However, I don't think you're wrong either. It's not about wanting to close them, per se, and that might be the secret metric for success they haven't disclosed: "Did this new game drive Sub growth by a certain percentage?" In that case, even a very well received game could doom a studio if it doesn't generate enough interest or hype in Game Pass. It's very safe to assume that XGP is very clearly aligned to closures. It's become damn near THE metric for Xbox. So when a game isn't played much or generating subs, studio closes. I think this is extremely problematic for Ninja Theory if true. I can't say I know many people playing through their games more than once and I don't see Hell blade 2 driving user retention either.

TheColbertinator13d ago

Nice. I could speedrun it by midnight and go to sleep after.

Notellin12d ago

It's a walking simulator you can't speed run them. It's a power walking game.

crazyCoconuts12d ago

That's the kinda funny thing about all the concern for the game... It's only like 8 hours... Good or bad a very small portion of my gaming time will be impacted.
If GTA6 got hosed, on the other hand, I'd probably cry lol

Flakegriffin13d ago

Zero marketing and embargo lifts when the game launches?

No confidence from team Xbox.

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Hellblade 2 Is An Unrivaled Spectacle, But The Gameplay Neglection Bothers Me

Ninja Theory outdid itself in Hellblade 2 with the photorealistic visuals and the unreal audio design, but why was the gameplay neglected?

piroh4d ago

Its a perfect game for Gamepass, i think this is what MS wanted from it to be. IMO spring 2025 PS5/Switch 2 release maybe sooner

StormSnooper2d ago

I think it’s the perfect gamepass game. Pretty, but cheap to make, and shallow.

Amplitude2d ago

Cheap to make and shallow are absolutely not words that describe HellBlade 2

garos822d ago

its only perfect if the gameplay has something to say or do. turns out this game has neither. nice graphics though

Flawlessmic2d ago

I finished it and I'll start by saying the graphics are amazing!!!!! and I experienced and noticed absolutely zero bugs and ran into no issues with the game so it's highly polished.

In saying that, that's where my compliments end, I slugged my way through this game, thank god it was short.

The most on rails game I've ever played, didn't care for the story or the characters outside of the story for the first giant which I did like. For a game like this story and characters should've been everything and it just didn't hit, I didn't care at all just wanted to finish the game and experience the visuals, that's the only reason I persisted.

Puzzles were absolutely lame an amounted to either trying to find shapes or using land shifting bubbles, all of which were piss easy.

The fights are cool at first and look brutal but again very simple.

Basically no environment interaction besides lighting torches

Checking my last achievement only like 6% of players have finished the game which says a lot considering the length of it. I can't imagine a whole lot of people are playing this either.

Don't understand the higher reviews for this, outside of visuals the game isn't great if any anything it was a slog to get the 7 hrs it's took me.

Sonic18812d ago

I agree with you about the puzzles and the game length

repsahj2d ago

Many perfect reviews only scores the graphics like the very "unbiased"(lol) reviews of DF and Eurogamer. But saying the gameplay and story is a masterpiece are a bunch of liars.

StormSnooper2d ago

DF IS MS’s advertising arm. Eurogamer was purchased by IGN, which is a MS mouthpiece. so no surprises there.

Flawlessmic2d ago

Yea it's hard to disagree man, like it's really not a good game.

Since when did games get full marks along with other high scores just for visuals, it's reeiculous.

Michiel19892d ago

DF doesn't do reviews as far as I know....they do graphical analyses and ofc being the pixeljunkies that they are, they will absolutely love the graphical aspects of this game.

@storm if they're ms advertising arm then why do they still praise a game like Horizon to the heavens? doesn't pan out my man, but nice try my little pony.

Notellin2d ago

@StormSnooper

The made up Microsoft positive publicity. Even fanboys don't believe those sites are Microsoft leaning.

Good-Smurf2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Weird of them DF to do a game review when their job actually is to review the tech aspects of the game.
It came across as paid sponsored review at times.
Leave the bootlicking stuff to Eurogamer especially now that they got bought the writing is on IGN's wall.
I feel like John got that line crossed a lot I feel, he should start his own channel because the other two stooges and simps at Eurogamer and DF are holding him back a lot.
It's all so ironic coming from a guy who's all about gameplay and frame rate obsessed, many mentioned that they don't give the likes of The Order 1886 the same praise a lot of catches ifs and buts for that game.
I don't have to mention the insufferable Tom Morgan.

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DazaMc2d ago

The combat is terrible, dodge 2 or three times, attack AND repeat.

EternalTitan2d ago

What gameplay?
Hellblade 2 barely has any gameplay.

Amplitude2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

It seems like Ninja Theory really were trying to tell an emotional story more than make a game - and that's totally fine. I really miss games like this.

Its nice to see Microsoft venturing into "story game" territory when they quite literally never do so. Other than maybe Lococycle.

Damn, remember Lococycle? https://youtu.be/4uHTEDDVFF...

rippermcrip2d ago

Order 1886 had graphics that were way ahead of its time. Also had excellent gameplay. But it was absolutely ripped to shreds in reviews based on the shortness of the game and some repetitiveness of some fights. For some reason those things don't apply to HB.

LoveSpuds2d ago

A fair comparison I must say. I will play Hellblade II when it comes to PS5 (provided it gets a physical release) as I can't help but think it's similar to the first game in respect of its shortcomings, and I still got something out of that 1st game (a platinum trophy specifically).

anast2d ago

It still applies. The games is a high 6 to low 7. Game writers need access to do their jobs so they they don't follow any kind of criteria that would potentially cut that access.

rippermcrip2d ago

Reviewers aren't applying it is the point.

anast2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@ripper

They're not applying it, but it applies when we the consumer actually pays for the product and plays it.

Michiel19892d ago

more tinfoil hat galore than youtube comments, insecurities run wild when your plastic box doesn't have the most impressive looking game anymore, not that I'm surprised

rippermcrip2d ago

Not a single person is upset or even disagreeing that this game has the best graphics. So what are you talking about?

anast2d ago

It's naive to think access journalism doesn't exist. Calling it "tin-foil hat" doesn't make it otherwise. If you have been on this world since 89, you would have surely come to this conclusion along with the conclusion that words like "plastic box" and "insecurity" expressed in this way tells us more about you than what my comment is actually about.

Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

And Hellblade 2 length is even shorter than the Order 1886 🤔😂

KwietStorm_BLM2d ago

The Order had excellent gameplay?

SonyStyled2d ago

It does but there’s not very much of it. There’s a couple good action sequences but the rest it bland

derek2d ago

@Ripper, I remember how that game was torn apart even before it was released. I played and agreed with much of the criticism, the end bosses were terrible the game was way too short. But the weapons, gunplay and graphics were phenomenal. Haven't played hellblade 2 but watching it, it looks like you walk on rails the take turns combat is a joke. The graphics look fantastic at times, saw her wadding through water in some underground cave with a torch, impressive. Wish NT would have focused more on bringing real combat/ movement to their impressive graphical presentation. 7 years for a 5-6 hrs game is absurd.

Good-Smurf2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Yeah and considering The Order 1886 was actually a pretty competent TPS but walks and jogs around slays a few enemies one and a time with lame ass puzzles in HB2 is much more to their liking.
Something's fishy here.

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talocaca2d ago

I just played the first 3 hours.....the gameplay is extremely basic. Walk a path while you hear voices, then long cutscenes, a simple battle that is almost QTE....repeat.

Sonic18812d ago

And Eurogamer gave this game a 10 😂

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Senua’s Saga: Hellblade 2 is Not the Huge Win for Xbox That We All Wanted it to Be

Ninja Theory's latest is an impressive accomplishment in more ways than one, but it isn't the flag-in-the-ground moment many had hoped it would be.

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H94d ago

A four hour playable movie was never going to be the big win for a console

piroh4d ago

Remember when xbox fans laugh at The order 1886? Well...

H94d ago

Xbox fans hate every until it comes to their console

darthv724d ago

^^the same can be said about the flip side.

Zeref4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I didn't give af about The Order to have any thoughts on it. Nobody did. You're projecting my guy.

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Eonjay4d ago

It's more of a UE5 tech/art demo.

darthv724d ago

...and things can only get better from here. Imagine what UE6 can bring to the table.

Eonjay4d ago

Right. I assume games like Gears 5 will make this look tame by comparison plus it will be built with GamePlay in mind.

helicoptergirl4d ago

Steam peak-player count is super low. Lower even than the original. In regards to selling copies/subs and making a profit in some way, I'd bet everything I own on it being a complete and utter failure. But I wouldn't shut them down. They need to expand and be more ambitious and ramp up production. Hope their next game is something special.

MeteorPanda4d ago

this l don't understand. This game is explorative, its not ever going to be a big hit but a very enjoyable short experience. Not every game has to be so many hours. The devs were happy with their end product.

Barlos4d ago

Only certain obscure observers thought it would be. The rest of us could see it was never going to shift systems or be a massive hit.

Redgrave4d ago

heh

heh heh

certain obscure observers

TheKingKratos4d ago

That guy/girl have been "Obscure" for some time now

Hofstaderman4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Some really obscure alt accounts last couple of weeks....

SonyStyled4d ago

Fortunately he’s okay and back working now

lucasnooker4d ago

Great graphics does not mean a great game… it peaks interest but at the end of the day we want both in one! Looking at you GTA VI. Rockstar, come show us how it’s done!

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Hellblade II Gameplay PC 4K - RTX 4090 (an amazing cinematic opening with little gameplay)

CG writes: We spend around 40 minutes playing the opening of Hellblade II on PC (Gamepass version), running max settings but with DLSS set to Quality. So, effectively playing the game at 1440p despite the render res being set to 4K. As you can see, the RTX 4090 GPU sits around the 70% usage mark using these settings which are capped at 60fps. Aside from the technical details though, we found the opening gameplay a little underwhelming. Sure, audio is top-quality sublime, and UE5 provides some fantastic visual nuances, yet the gameplay just felt sacrificed for cinematic posturing. We are going to assume the gameplay becomes more of a focus moving forwards as the opening here felt less interactive that its predecessor which also begins in/on the water.

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Jingsing5d ago

I'll wait for someone to record the game and convert it to an FMV for the SEGA MEGA CD port.