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Microsoft's E3 Surprise is Not Gaming - Will IPTV + Diamond Fees Save Them?

This podcast reveals the potential rumors being broadcast throughout the internet, and addresses the multimedia push from Microsoft as irrelevant by comparison to the stride of other companies. Their E3 show for 2011 is called into question and analysis is done on their overall strategic stance this year and in years' past.

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SpaceSquirrel4756d ago

Microsoft should focus on hardcore gaming for E3.

Hitman07694756d ago (Edited 4756d ago )

Couldn't have said it better myself.

@iamnsuperman No doubt man. Definitely. Thanks for the listen and feedback!

Active Reload4756d ago

Yeah MS, what's up with the games? It's not like L.A. Noire, RAGE, SKYRIM, DARKSOULS, WITCHER 2 are on or coming to the Xbox 360. Oh... wait...

Biggest4756d ago

Remember when people were saying "BluRay? I want games, Sony!" How about when people said "I don't need no stinkin internet browser! I have a PC!" It's funny because those same people are going Lady Gaga over half-cable and Kinect.

Active Reload4756d ago

It's ok, I damn sure ain't about to spend $300 on another console to play average exclusives, lol.

shoddy4756d ago

Why play more variety when you can play less right?

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NYC_Gamer4756d ago

they will continue to let 3rd party software/xbl features move the console

iamnsuperman4756d ago (Edited 4756d ago )

I like they are adding services but like mentioned in the podcast TVs do it already (and in the UK with a service called freeview which is free) kind of makes this redundant in the UK (I hear the US has expensive cable so probably useful there). Microsoft still need to focus on the hardcore like you said. It seems they are stretching the Xbox brand. I wouldn't have minded if they announced this at another press conference and not at E3 (if the rumours are true). They need to announce some exclusives

-Superman-4756d ago

No, i want games not Xbox Live upgrade
I bought console for games not for network

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JsonHenry4756d ago (Edited 4756d ago )

"save" them? I didn't know they needed saving. For me, this could be cool if the programming/features are similar to my satellite provider.

AND, the music in the background is annoying.

ManGastaS4756d ago

they dont need to be saved, they sold 55 million consoles!!!

1998gamer4756d ago (Edited 4756d ago )

and 30% of that is somewhere in a ditch collecting dust illuminated by red light. They sure did such a great job /s They need all the help they can get for their next console.

shoddy4756d ago

Hardcore fans need saving.

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JellyJelly4756d ago

Who says they won't have more than one surprise? Sure, IPTV and Kinect will have its place in their conference but that doesn't mean they won't have hardcore titles on show as well. At least I hope :)

Chaostar4756d ago (Edited 4756d ago )

I''ll be honest I only listened to the first few minutes but they make a few good points.

Best of them is that on demand TV is already a part of lots of different hardware i.e even TVs have it nowadays, and it's free.

MS will have to give a VERY good reason for people to pay extra. It's possible they have a ton of exclusive content but I doubt gamers will pay extra on top of xbl fees unless they manage to grab a LOT of incentive.

guigsy4756d ago

This may be a big announcement in their press conference but he acts like this is their only announcement. I don't see why people have a problem with consoles becoming more multi-functional; the stats show that people use their consoles for entertainment other than gaming. This guy comes across more as a disgruntled fanboy throwing a fit as opposed to someone more focused on generating interesting debate.

ash_divine4756d ago

My only concern with consoles becoming multimedia devices is that Gaming(what the consoles were originally intended for) could get pushed into the background because of it.

I get the feeling that this is most people's concern. Because you have to admit, Microsoft seem to be getting less and less interested in the video game industry.(Especially the hardcore side of the industry.)

NYC_Gamer4756d ago

gaming will never get pushed back long as 3rd party studios exist

BabyTownFrolics4756d ago

nyc gamer dont even try to talk sense.

if your not bashing MS then your not a true gamer on N4G.

FlashXIII4756d ago

You're right that gaming won't get pushed back because of 3rd party studios but ultimately why stick with an xbox and play just those 3rd party studio games when you can get a ps3 and play all those plus a whole load of great exclusives spread out across the year?

Unfortunately this gen microsoft can get away with shunning their hardcore gamers and trying to expand their brand however they have a lot of convincing to do if they want me to buy their next console.

ash_divine4756d ago

@BabyTownFrolics

Oh grow up will you? No one bashed Microsoft (your fanboyism is making you paranoid lol). People are allowed to voice their opinion, because not everyone worships their console.(or the company that created it.)

fanatics, sheesh.

@NYC_Gamer

At least you didn't get all defensive, but I still don't really understand the point you're trying to make. If Microsoft relies solely on third parties then what incentive will people have to buy the console?(as opposed to the competition)

and I think you (and Babytown) misunderstood what I was saying. I was simply saying that I'm worried that Microsoft will get too invested into other ventures (such as IPTV) to really focus on games. I think anyone who enjoys the 360 can agree that that would be a bad thing.

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Alos884756d ago

Dear Microsoft,
We don't watch your conferences for BS like "integrated media" or "convergence" or any other meaningless marketing phrases and half baked concepts.
We watch for the GAMES.
Please remember this.

karl4756d ago

they do remember it .. they just dont give a shit..

Ms has no shame.. or exclusives for that matter

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The Xbox showcase brought the E3 magic

After having to prove itself for years, Xbox doubled down and pulled it off..

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GaboonViper1d ago

Yep Xbox absolutely knocked it out of the park with that stunning show, it was everything a gaming showcase should be, games games and games, well done team Xbox.

CrimsonWing699h ago

It really did. Like I came out of that with the hype for new games I haven’t felt since… well the better years of E3.

monkey6029h ago

It was without a doubt one of the better showcases in years. There was plenty there that excited me. Something has been lacking in years on all platforms

EasilyTheBest7h ago

It was an amazing showcase I loved everything about it. Can't wait to play some of those games.
What's going on. 4 comments & no negatives yet. Wow, what's going on with N4G.

ThinkThink6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Show was so good, it made me forget about that blue dragon rumor until the next day. Too many games to process.

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Is Xbox Going Multi-Platform The Right Decision For The Console Market?

Shahmeer from eXputer: "The new Xbox strategy to go multi-platform could eventually change console gaming as we know it, and I am concerned."

Bathyj1d 10h ago

Can we stop pretending that Xbox has any great influence over the console market?

All they can do is try and steer their own Destiny. They have very little to do with what the other players in the console market are doing.

And yes, going 3rd party is pretty much their only option and is good for them.

RaidenBlack1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Still whatever little direct competition they're offering against Sony ... that'd be gone, which is never good for consumers.
I know Sony will continue to apease the gamers but without any proper competition in same space, they might not work at the fullest efficiency.
(Taking into account, thats generally been agreed here, that Nintendo has long been not the direct competitor to either MS or Sony)

xHeavYx1d 6h ago

The " without any proper competition in same space, they (Sony) might not work at the fullest efficiency" narrative has been proven false for years. Let's stop pretending that, in terms of games, Xbox has been any competition to Playstation.

fsfsxii1d 6h ago

Sony had 0 competition for most of its playstation business, and they still succeeded, the only thing xbox introduced was paid online and dlc

maniacmayhem1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

Sony had little to no competition during the PS2 era and they have an iconic catalog.

I don't think Sony needs competition in the console space to still release great games. It would be the games that would be competing against each other.

Einhander19721d 5h ago

Xbox does not need to exist for PlayStation to have competition.

They compete with Nintendo, PC, streaming and countless other devices.

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neutralgamer19921d 5h ago

Yes release games on other platforms

Your own gamers still get the games day one on GP. So GP will grow and stay stabilize

By releasing the games on PC,PlayStation and next switch they can get $70 for their games.

MS didn't invest 100 billion for nothing. This way Xbox generates way more revenue

GhostScholar21h ago

And Sony is doing the same thing whether you want to admit it or not.

anast1d 9h ago

The show was like a sub-show for Sony. All these games are coming to PS5.

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outsider16241d 9h ago

You gotta admit though..xbox showcase was actually really great.

RpgSama1d 9h ago

I mean, yes, it was an Activision, Blizzard, Bethesda presentation, they just so happened to buy all of those publishers, nothing we would not have seen on any other award show if they had not bought developers that were and STILL are developing multiplatform games.

If you remove them you are left with Microsoft game studios, another Fable, Another Gears, Perfect Dark which for me didn't look all that great, Avowed, Age of mythology and south of midnight (might be missing something I guess)

anast1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

No better than any other show. There weren't any major new announcements, which is what everyone has been complaining about. The bar shouldn't get lowered for a trillion dollar company.

crazyCoconuts1d 8h ago

"another Fable, another Gears, Perfect Dark"?
That's a lot of pretty great "anothers".
I could use a few of those "anothers" from Sony right now.

helicoptergirl1d 6h ago

Yes it was a really great showcase that Xbox had. Multiplats and all. Overall it was really cool

Terry_B1d 6h ago

for pc and playstation..yes it was. Not a single reason was given to buy an xbox.

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thesoftware7301d 8h ago

anast,

"All these games are coming to PS5."

Very disingenuous statement... Some, but not all.

Oh, so that is the new narrative, "sub-show for Sony." lol, wow.

The sad part is that you are clearly and fully aware that it is very unlikely for any 1hr and 30min gaming presentation show to showcase ALL Exclusives, it just doesn't happen.

And don't you think it sad that MS had a better Sony showing than Sony? If I were you, I wouldn't consider that a flex, lol.?

anast1d 5h ago

They are coming to PS5, the ones that matter of course.

There is nothing sad here. You might need to start your argument without an emotive.

I don't think they had a better showing. Unless we lower the bar for only Xbox.

crazyCoconuts1d 8h ago

None of us really know how much they're going third party. They're still ACTING like they want to protect the platform - no mention of PS5 in their show, still marketing the console, still using the Xbox logo.
Yeah Phil acknowledged more is coming to PS5. But is that Indiana Jones? Perfect Dark? Gears?
If they keep those key properties in their stable it's not accurate to label them as simply 3rd party.
They may very well still be in the game after all...

anast1d 5h ago

@Coconut

Sony did the same in their last. They showed games that were already announced.

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Giga_Gaia1d 9h ago

We need to stop pretending like Xbox matters and has any influence in the industry.

By entering the industry, Microsoft made it worst, everything bad in the industry can be tied to them (like paid online and DLCs). The industry would be better off if they had never been in it.

Before you say Sony would have no competition, they would still have PC and Nintendo. As they are right now, Microsoft are not competition, they don't actually matter.

crazyCoconuts1d 7h ago

I think you're mostly right. They've been failing on console and will most likely drop out.
But the concern a lot of us had was that they would use their $ to win monopolistically. They've already bought a huge number of big studios. Going multi-platform would alleviate that concern.
But they could still turn the screws, this game isn't over quite yet... They're sending mixed signals.

CrimsonWing691d 9h ago

I think in Xbox’s direness it is, but let’s not pretend like they don’t understand the value of exclusiveness to their platform. Not every damn Xbox game is coming to PS5 and the stuff that has hit have either been GaaS games or games that didn’t exactly sell gamgbusters and are extremely niche.

When Halo, Gears, Forza, Perfect Dark, Fable, etc. start coming to PS5 then that’s pretty massive and also diminishes any reason to own an Xbox.

LucasRuinedChildhood1d 9h ago

Doom isn't niche. It was heavily implied that all Bethesda games, outside of games with contractual agreements and the existing multiplayer games, would all be exclusive to Xbox.

CrimsonWing691d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

Ok, sorry, Doom is the exception.

My point is Xbox is still keeping exclusives for their bigger games. What’s been released are GaaS: Sea of Thieves, Grounded aka Honey I Shrunk the Kids, and then niche stuff like Pentiment and Hi-Fi Rush. Then you got Doom coming out, which is an outlier, I suppose.

crazyCoconuts1d 7h ago

It's not niche but it's not everything.
MS has got a HUGE cache of IP and studios now

Scissorman1d 9h ago

It's the only decision. Hardware sales are on a sharp decline and Game Pass growth has stagnated.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Direct

Xbox writes: "Join us for a double feature on June 9, 10am PT - Xbox Games Showcase immediately followed by Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Direct.  The Xbox Games Showcase is your look at the new games from Xbox Game Studios, Activision, Blizzard, Bethesda, as well as our partners from around the globe. Immediately following the Showcase, stay tuned for Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Direct for a special deep-dive into the beloved franchise."

ravens522d ago

I'm here. Waiting in anticipation to see some games 🤙🏽

GamerRN2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I'll be honest, if they don't announce some major shit, this could be the nail in the coffin.

If I hear about major 1st party titles going multiplatform, it's over.

They need to build the brand trust right now. A lot of damage has been done.

We need bangers, AND some news about next Gen.

Flawlessmic2d ago

It's just started 4 games in and it's already been a fantastic show.

This is gonna be the best showcase in years

VersusDMC2d ago

New Doom dark ages anounced for PS5 as well...

GamerRN2d ago

So far this is a great show, and mostly all GamePass games? Looks like the bangers are finally coming!

Investments finally paying off.

Now they need new hardware so they can start over

Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

So far the best showcase this year

Flawlessmic2d ago

At this rate, best show of the last 2-4 years, been an absolute bangerrrrr so far!!!

Pixykont2d ago

Perfect dark looks incredible

shinoff21832d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Agreed. Way better then what Sony did and has done. Those multiplayer games really fked Sony over for a few years. Xbox showed off some good looking stuff. I'm most interested in state of decay 3.

1Victor1d 21h ago

@obcured:”BEST XBOX SHOWCASE EVER!!!!”
You need at least 10real people to agree in writing with you for anyone here believing you after saying the same thing year over year for the last 10+ years.
Now that I finished watching the show for me personally it was a ok as I don’t play FP games but that’s just me and I can recognize that for people that like FPG it’s a amazing show so ENJOY them.
Another thing and I hope for Microsoft sake they don’t do their next system digital only based on the S sales over the X, I hope they’ll learn the lesson of not making a lower power version just to try to undercut their competitor.
Metal gear 3 looked sweet.
Overall a lot of pretty games CONGRATS to all Xbox gamers this is what you deserve year over year 👍✨

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lelo2play2d ago

Great showcase by Microsoft. So many interesting games...

RaidenBlack1d 8h ago

Only thing I missed was Clockwork Revolution...
And what happened to Everwild? Liked the art style.

Lightning772d ago

Very certain Perfect Dark will show up. fable showing up and 2025 release date.

Unpopular opinion here but INL think Final Fantasy 16 will release on Xbox. I dunno if it'll be on Gamepass but I think it's going to other platforms now.

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Obscure_Observer2d ago

HERE WE GOOO!!!

Time to see what amazing games Xbox Game Studios has been cooking for us, boys!!!

THE HYPE IS REAL!!!

Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I'm glad Microsoft had a great show. Hopefully this show potentially wakes up Sony and Nintendo. Competition is good for the industry. We don't need publishers and developers to get comfortable and get lazy on us. Keep them thinking and on their toes

cthulhucultist2d ago

well said Sonic. Competition is beneficial for us gamers

Master-Tonberry2d ago

Absolutely agree, many of the games shown are also coming to PS5 (despite MS hiding other platforms from the reveals) but the genuine exclusive all look great. Nintendo will obviously continue to carve it's own path and will be very busy with the Switch 2, but Sony and PlayStation really needs to pull it's socks up and start bringing out the big guns or people are going to start losing faith. Hopefully the rumours of a big PlayStation Experience show later this year are true.

anast1d 9h ago

The main knock on Sony is that there haven't been any major first party announcements. Xbox does a show with no major announcements.

The_Hooligan2d ago

This showcase was great. Not just a great Xbox showcase but in general the best one this year so far.

Kurisu2d ago

I'm tuned in now. I can't say I've ever been big in to Xbox, but I got myself a Series S when it launched. Can't say I've used it much but I'm intrigued to see what's in the pipeline.

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