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PGR3 vs PGR4 Image Comparison

Side by side image comparison of PGR3 and PGR4 showing the direction in which Bizarre is taking their latest game in the Xbox 360 exclusive racing game series. Images were taken with the same camera on the same TV - with the same car, and on the same circuit.

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Jones Miller6086d ago (Edited 6086d ago )

I can hardly tell any difference! All I know is that PGR4 is a ton of fun just like PGR3.

Edit: I meant I could hardly tell any difference in the screens presented. I know that PGR4 graphics wise is way better than PGR3. PGR4 PWNS IMO :)

power of Green 6086d ago

I wish I could take back the dissagree I wasn't even paying attention to "Hey man!", my bad.

stunt2136086d ago

does this mean that 360 has reach its full capacity????

Kenshin_BATT0USAI6086d ago (Edited 6086d ago )

Well though I don't like PGR series I have to say that the floor looks better indefinitely . Lots more detail. The question is can they make it better again?

@Henry

I believe it was a 360 game.

JsonHenry6086d ago

Was PGR3 an Xbox 360 game? (I don't care for racing games myself) But from the screen shots it would appear that the PGR4 game is much more detailed. Even the car seems to have more details and self shadows on it.

Leathersoup6086d ago

The thing to keep in mind though is that it was a release title. As such it can be assumed that it was was rushed to make the launch. That being the case they wouldn't have had time to refine their engine.
PGR4 is a lot of fun but I can't help thinking that the driving engine has changed. Perhaps to improve the car handling but when I watch my car in replays it seems to do weird things every once in a while.

DZNetworks6086d ago

If you cant tell the difference maybe you need glasses... obviously PGR4 has better graphics than its predecessor but the jaggies are more apparent too.

secret6086d ago (Edited 6086d ago )

ABOUT PGR3 (600P) VS PGR4 (720P) OR WHATEVER:
The xbox360 cannot output hi-definition, despite the 720p and/or 1080p labels on their games. Let me explain what Microsoft is saying to you with those labels.

Before I get to that, I remind you that DVD-9 is primarily a standard definition disc, unlike hd-dvd or bluray discs. Otherwise, we wouldn't need hd-dvd or bluray players, which the xbox360 is neither.

In any case, when Microsoft is labeling their game as 720p or 1080p, they're not saying that the game is hi-def.

What they're saying is that the standard definition signal coming from the DVD-9 game disc will now work harmoniously, properly with a hi-definition monitor without causing any visual imperfections that will occur when you send a standard-defintion signal to a high-defintion television. (Most brand name high-definition televisions will have an internal scaler anyways).

I'm going to exaggerate, but this example will show you what is happening. They take a small 2" x 2" gum and then without adding any extra-fine hi-def details, they stretch (scale) that gum to fit the 4" x 4" gum holder / television size. But no details (pimples, hair, dirt, pebbles) were added. Everyone's been watching standard defintion movies, and they look really good. In fact, some games look more realistic when shown in standard definition under circumstances.

So, on the xbox360, a 720p or 1080p game would look identical on a hi-definition screen. That's because the signal source is always going to be standard definition. In one scenario, they're stretching that standard definition video to match the 720p size. But without adding any hi-def details like additional pimples or hairs. In the other scenario, they're taking the same standard definition video and strechting it proportionally to fit the 1080p television. Again, but without adding any hi-def details. They're not really stretching anything, but I think that word paints a clearer picture for your understanding. That's not what's really happening.

ABOUT PGR4 VS PGR3:
Whereas PS3 fanboys (and some xbox360 owners) have been comparing GT5 with real life images and cannot tell the difference at all, you're comparing and bragging that you can spot minute differences between a third / fourth generation title PGR4 and a first gen title PGR3 from the same developer on the same console. Goodness...

ABOUT SOME INCONVENIENCES:
I'd like to point out here that Microsoft and you xbots have interfered with this genrations enjoyment of movie and gaming entertainment. Here are my reasons.

1) You won't let go of Universal or Paramount with your HD-DVD stubborness, and now all movie goers will have to either sit by the fence and wait for the format war to end, buy both bluray and hd-dvd players, or forgo one movie or another.

2) Because developers focus on developing for the xbox360 first and foremost at the moment and then force feed what's left over to the PS3, the graphical potential for this generation is being capped off at your xbox360's limitations. How would you feel if Microsoft released an HD-DVD drive gaming xbox360, but because developers know that there are more DVD xbox360 owners out there, they made MASS effect on the HD-DVD version identical to the DVD one?

And multiple discs might not resolve the graphics problem though. You can't add multiple discs to the PS2 architecture and hope that its graphics will look identical to the orginal xbox1. Storage capacity alone is only one issue. The power of the console is another. The Power of the Cell and how it uniquely works with the rest of the architecture is beyond anything the world has seen yet in gaming.

Play Ratchet & Clank until the end of the game on a well calibrated television (not those garish looking things on display at local store), and you'll see a glimpse like night and day between the xbox360 and the PS3, although I thought Grand Turismo 5 should have sealed the deal by now.

But in either case, competition keeps prices down at the very least. So be it.

Thank you for listening.
PLAYB3YOND

sjappie6085d ago (Edited 6085d ago )

I've seen you spew this nonsense before, did you make all that up by yourself?
It doesn't matter if the disc is a hd format. A game is not read directly from the disc, the data is. The console has to render that data in hd or sd. The disc format has nothing to do with the end resolution of the game.
Go back to your lab and go work on your theories, you sound like a mad scientist.
Also, I don't understand why you have to start a GT rant, in a PGR3/PGR4 comparison, save it for the PGR4/GT comparison.

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power of Green 6086d ago

Cars have more effects in PGR4, the lighting is next-gen in PGR4 and the detail in PGr4 is far more advanced. These pics do not come close in sheding light on the diferences. One thing is for sure that you can see in these pics the detail is better in PGR4 the roads in PGR3 are pethetic in comparison.

Having both games and seeing them on a large HDTV you can see that ther is as much diferences in the over all detail in the environments as ther is in the roads in these pics.

BUM6086d ago

There is a much difference.

Bloodmask6086d ago

PGR4 is much more lifelike. And is much more detailed. It is especially noticable if you look at the street detail.

PGR3 is much more plain.

power of Green 6086d ago

LOL somebody dissagreed we own these games not the dissagree-ers.

DARK WITNESS6086d ago (Edited 6086d ago )

13 disagrees ! thats pushing it a bit.

The man posted his pick of PGR4 ingame, what is there to disagree with. he didn't even make a statement along with it, he just said here is my pick and people disagree....

some of the people on this site need help, real help....

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Let's Remember Some Xbox 360 Games

Luke Plunkett of Kotaku writes, "I think we all took the Xbox 360 for granted. Other all-time greats like the SNES and PS2 seem to be remembered more fondly than Microsoft’s console, which tends to be recalled as more of a thing that happened than a platform to be treasured."

JEECE2182d ago

A Kotaku writer pining for Xbox's golden years. I'm guessing there will be some good comments here.

Uglyday2182d ago

“WE”didn’t take it for granted, M$ did.

What happened prior to launch of the One up through current day with their marketing and focus away from games and consumers. The failure of the One has nothing to do with the 360 being great. In fact backward compatibility and the 360 is about all the One had/has going for it. Now M$ is dumping money into fornite articles to try and be seen as more than they are, a company that doesn’t give a damn about its fan boys or products.

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Xbox’s Phil Spencer Talks Rise of the Tomb Raider, Possibility of Sunset Overdrive Sequel and More

Microsoft’s Xbox Division head honcho Phil Spencer is always quite open to conversations with the fans on social media, and today he went on one of his usual Twitter sprees, talking about quite a few interesting topics.

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raggy-rocket3160d ago (Edited 3160d ago )

Sunset Overdrive was so fun, unlike any game I've seen in a while. Felt kinda fresh to see something unique. Hope it sold well, it deserved to, would love to have a sequel, maybe multi-platform this time so our PS brethren could share the love too.

LifeInNZ3160d ago

They should make it one of their games for gold this xmas, I'm sure it would be extremely popular and drive a thirst for a sequel.

Mr Pumblechook3160d ago

Sunset Overdrive received a positive critical reception but sales wise it underperformed. The reality is that businesses have to make a profit, if there is a sequel then Insomniac will follow the Titanfall example and make it multi-format so it is available to as many gamers as possible.

Kribwalker3160d ago

@pumblecock

I'd like to see your insider information as to how well sunset overdrive did and how it underperformed, because I remember that they sold out of sunset overdrive limited edition bundles as well ,the October 2014 npd had it at the 9th best selling game that month if you sorted by skus it stated and released on October 28

http://www.shacknews.com/ar...

And it debut in 2nd next to Fifa in the uk

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

RiseofScorpio3160d ago (Edited 3160d ago )

If its multiplatform Microsoft won't be funding it consider that.

@Pumblechook. Microsoft funded and marketed SSOD even if it sold 1 copy insomniac didn't lose anything also they would have to go elsewhere for funding if they went multipkat which I doubt since they have a solid partner in MS.

You don't know the sales aims for SSOD therefore you can't say it underperformed.

Mr Pumblechook3160d ago (Edited 3160d ago )

@Waluigi. Before Microsoft would fund a Sunset Overdrive 2, they would have to consider the benefit to their platform for example would it drive new console sales? If they think it was a big draw then they would pay for it, if they don't think it would they wouldn't! Microsoft paid BIG for Titanfall but it didn't move Xbox One units the way a Gears of War game can so they won't be going exclusive with the sequel.

Insomniac are a mid sized but established studio. If they don't have the resources to fund SO2 they could certainly do so from investment partners.

I do get you point about not knowing what the SO sales aims were. But they were hoping for very good things. It was a well funded game with significant advertising budget ( I heard Ted Price talk about it in person at a UK event). Less then 890,000 games sales (including bundles and discounted copies) was absolutely a disappointment. It doesn't mean the game was a technical failure, it just felt to resonate with the wider public.

ScorpiusX3160d ago

No on the whole brethren BS ,their platform share's no game so no game should be shared with them . Am all for an Exclusive Sequel to SSoD .

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LexHazard793160d ago

I would like it to stay exclusive. PS4 has plenty of exclusives already.

jb2273159d ago

I never understand that philosophy...wouldn't that amount solely to wanting bragging rights? I honestly think gamers should want for exclusive first party studios, not exclusive titles from 3rd party developers. If MS would've spent all of the funds from this gen alone that were funneled towards 3rd party exclusives & timed exclusives they could've most likely started a pretty phenomenal first party studio that could be cranking out the greatest game in Xbox history. Instead these 3rd party deals typically turn out half steps & games that are known commodities, they'll be good fun but they won't be mindblowing because they still aren't fully catering to the system's strengths.

StormLegend3160d ago

Why the downvotes?

He said "Multi-platform" and even if he didn't

he still shouldn't get downvoted.

Professor_K3159d ago

Agreed with everything you said

The game needs its own franchise

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DarkZane3160d ago

Insomniac didn't release it on PS4 because Sony wanted to own the IP, so they went to Microsoft instead. However, now that the first game is released, Sony can't own the IP anymore, so if they want, they're free to release the sequel on PS4 or even port the first one too.

RiseofScorpio3160d ago

So can Capcom release SFV on Xbox One because the own the IP? No. Because there's clauses in the contract just like with SSOD, they cant release SSOD because MS funded it.

_-EDMIX-_3160d ago

Yes, they very much can and likely will after their timed deal with Sony.

Sony doesn't own the SF IP.

I'm sorry but the contract won't some how override the whole IP LMFAO! It just makes zero sense. That is like saying I can pay to exclusively use your car for life, but not actually spend the money that equals your car...it makes no sense.

Sony can't pay Capcom a lessor amount then the IP, to withhold the IP from a system.

I mean...the deal is literally stupid and laughable. That is very, very unlikely that the deal states that.

its likely for a year for Street Fighter V vanilla ie before Super, before Ultra, before Alpha, before Hyper etc lol

MS also funded Ninja Gaiden II and Tomb Raider...

soooooo not sure what you mean bud, that really doesn't mean much. 100% sure Insomniac owns that IP, not MS.

RiseofScorpio3159d ago

Microsoft didn't fund Tomb Raider, they're marketing and publishing only. -ESSAYMIX-

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audiocafe3160d ago

I love the interactivity Phil has with consumers.

DJustinUNCHAIND3160d ago

5 people don't love the interactions between Spencer and the consumers.

OpieWinston3160d ago

You got disagrees for that? Who doesn't want more heads to be down to the ground with the fans of their products? Especially in gaming.

It's good he says what's not in development so the fanbase can then get some buzz going to hopefully push higher ups to decide to greenlight it. Nothings guaranteed but it can spark some light.

from the beach3160d ago

That's not as decisive on a Sunset Overdrive sequel as I'd like ... sign it up, Phil!

DigitalRaptor3159d ago

That's true, but who thinks that likely at all?

Phil recently made a statement that his focus is on first-party now and when quizzed about properties belonging to others he has also said he'd rather focus on things they own. Insomniac at the time, went with Microsoft as publisher for a reason - being so that they could take their game where they liked. Like Titanfall 2, I'd expect a sequel to be published on multiple platforms.

Microsoft gave Sunset a chance, so they deserve a sequel to be only on Xbox, but based on MS track record early this gen that's looking highly unlikely.

from the beach3157d ago

Fair point, I'll take a sequel whether it's exclusive or not!

DivineAssault 3160d ago

Microtransactions in Tomb Raider really turned me off.. I dont understand why devs shove that BS into everything these days.. First it was DLC here and there and now DLC, season passes, and micro transactions for every damn thing.. Im not getting XB1 this season i guess.. Halo has that BS too so your looking at close to $100+ for a single game with all its content.. Screw that

frankdrebin723160d ago

Yet some people are happy to pay the full retail price for remaster games and to stream old games they already own and pay again for them. No one is forcing you to do micro transactions but still it's your choice. I take it you will shun every game that does micro transactions and season passes?

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DivineAssault 3159d ago

No but its a common practice now since some people have no issues buying into that stuff.. Games used to be about having fun and had content that was unlockable without paying.. Now devs are trying to nickel and dime people for stuff that should already be in there

LonDonE3159d ago (Edited 3159d ago )

@emz99
Logged in specifically to agree to u buddy, i am happy more felow gamers see how bad this hobby of ours and our wallets are being raped.

Sadly its wasted on a hack of a site like N4g , these kids dont know how bad it has gotten.
You are so on the money but allot of todays gamers fail to see the bigger picture. :(
Its truely a tragedy, back in the day we used to unlock stuff from games by doing cheat codes or playing allot, but now we have to pay for every little thing! People bang on about how expensive games are to make thus justifying the devs/publishers knickel and diming us but the facts are that games developers are paid ridiculous money per hour/per year! They spend crazy amounts on marketing thier buggy broken games instead of making a solid game which sells itself.
Compare your average game developers wage to say a fireman who saves lives everyday, its laughable.
Gaming is bigger then its ever been, the customers/Cash is there we just want good working games which have value.

There are too many sheep especially on N4g!!
Dont waste your breath buddy. Sorry for typos typed on ps4

donthate3160d ago

Halo 5 has free DLC, including 18 maps for free post release. You can unlock everything in the game without microtransactions.

Contentwise it also includes massive mulitplayer content and a huge quality campaign.

Halo 5 is almost unrival in value and content of the AAA games released until now. The only thing beating this is Halo:MCC and Gears:UE in value, and that is maybe.

I don't see what the complaint is about the micro-transaction, but hey go play CoD or something else instead!

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Kribwalker3159d ago

Emz

Micro transactions traded for free dlc is ok with me. Especially since I can never pay another cent and get what is typically charged as a $40-50 season pass worth of content and the game will not split up its user base (which was always my problem buying dlc on call of duty as the new maps would empty with every release) then I'm all for it

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A Blast to the Past: Project Gotham Racing 3

“PGR3 is a unique, next generation-racing experience where you can design your own tracks, drive any car any time, star on Gotham TV and much more“. Whilst the back of the box might make it sound like a Batman-inspired racing game, Project Gotham Racing 3 is in fact an arcade racer which was part of the Xbox 360 launch lineup back in 2005.

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colt-of-tipton3813d ago

Loved Gotham 3 and 4 they showed more innovation than most racers do today , great looking ,great soundtrack and i was gutted when bizzare creations went under.

mattritchiegspresso3812d ago

PGR4 was my first Xbox 360 game! Yeah it's a shame that Bizarre had to close, but some of the folk went to work at Playground Games who made the brilliant Forza Horizon.