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Why ‘Dragon’s Dogma 2’ Reviews Didn’t Mention The Microtransactions

There is a storm raging online between many potential Dragon’s Dogma 2 players, Capcom and the journalists and YouTubers who reviewed the game.

-Foxtrot68d ago

"Most of these reviewers have played the game from anywhere from 50 to 100 hours to make their full judgement, and even getting a short ways into the game, you can see just how easy it is to ignore the extremely limited quantities of what’s being sold here"

It's not the point, they should have told people, it's their job, to inform the consumer about what to expect within a new game and what to watch out for before they buy.

Fact is nobody wanted to p*** off Capcom and get blacklisted or stop getting super cool press release packages from them.

Prime Example

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VenomUK67d ago

Did Capcom mandate that microtransactions should not be mentioned in reviews? Or did the media simply think their audience/readers didn’t need to know? The professional gaming outlets that said nothing should be named and avoided and have their Metacritic review power reduced.

-Foxtrot67d ago

Yeah I agree

I honestly believe exclusive future scoops and super rare press kits are part of the reason they don’t say anything

This is Capcom, they want that Resident Evil 9, Resident Evil 5 Remake, next Monster Hunter, DMC and Street Fighter news for their sites or YouTube profiles

Nitrowolf267d ago (Edited 67d ago )

No, we were not mandated not to talk about it. I'm actually surprised a bulk of reviews didn't mention it at all.

I did, and yes, I gave Dragon's Dogma a high score, but I did mention the existence of MT. It just never impacted my experience and it was something I spotted after the review was written and my time was spent with the game.

I mentioned I didn't like that Capcom was doing this at all, but again, it wasn't something that I felt altered the game in any way, no different than how most RPGs in many areas around loot and such.

MTs become an issue when the core experience is clearly broken by it to push players to them. If Dragon's Dogma for example mde it extremely rare to get Crystals, that from start to finish, you only had a few, rather than the thousands, yeah I'd have a much bigger issue.

I sort of said, look at it like this. If I had zero online, decided to head to GameStop and buy a physical version, boot the game, start it, play it till the end, there would be 0 indications the MTs even exist.
There are a handful of games you can't say that for. Suicide squad always online, and they really make it clear there's MT with the store, and the notifications of being able to get more resources and such.

VenomUK66d ago

@Nitrowolf2 At least you mentioned it in your review, well done. I believe a review should give the reader enough information to decide if a game is right for them.

FinalFantasyFanatic66d ago

I also wonder if they were aware of the microtransaction or if they even looked/available at the time they played? You would have thought so, and that should have triggered them to mention it in their reviews, but then again a lot of the major gaming journalist outlets aren't that good to begin with.

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Silly Mammo67d ago

MTX ≈ Bad
But spending $10 more on the deluxe edition is OK. Even though you're getting items that could be more helpful early on in a game.

I'm not defending MTXs but don't pretend buying the Deluxe version of some games doesn't give you a leg up early on.

Gameseeker_Frampt67d ago

How many times can Capcom sell you that Deluxe Edition?

That's the difference between Deluxe Editions and MTXs. They are not even comparable, especially since MTXs are baked into the gameplay and most games are made worse from them.

NotoriousWhiz67d ago

The MTX in Dragon's Dogma 2 only give you access to what the digital deluxe version gets you. You cannot buy them more than once.

thorstein67d ago

"Deluxe" edition

When we used to buy games we'd get a game with an instruction book and (if it was an RPG) a map. Sometimes a cloth map. Then a deluxe (collector's, special, etc) edition had cool things along with it that used to come free.

Now deluxe means digital content that should have been part of the game.

HyperMoused67d ago

An extra up front cost instead of piece meal, man thats MT's with extra steps

CrimsonWing6967d ago (Edited 67d ago )

Probably because they’re completely optional and all of it can easily be gotten in the game.

I don’t remember Monster Hunter World reviews going all “let’s burn this mother f*cker down,” with basically similar micros like buying a character editor. At least in DD2 it’s available for 500RC’s.

This has gotten blown out of proportion due to misinformation and people just quick to grab torches and pitchforks without doing any research.

How come Helldivers 2 doesn’t get flack for having micros? Such hypocrisy.

AndrewM67d ago

Helldivers 2 cost half as much and is a live service game, apples to oranges much?

CrimsonWing6967d ago (Edited 67d ago )

Microtransactions are microtransactions. You can’t justify them for one game and not the other.

So, what, if DD2 was $20 it’d be a non-issue then? Give me a break. At one point everyone was against micros, now it’s ok if GaaS games have them because, “oh, I paid $40 and it’s a GaaS game so it’s ok,” that’s the hypocrisy I’m talking about.

Suicide Squad was on sale for $40. Guess that’s just fine and dandy to be monetized, too. I mean by your logic $40 and GaaS is A-OK to be monetized.

Skull and Crossbones is on sale. Everyone monetize the hell out of it and smile because it’s GaaS and on sale. Oh but hell nawww to these nothing burger micros in DD2, until I guess it’s $40 then it’s ok!!!

Hypocrisy much?

DustMan66d ago

Not to mention that the MTX in Helldivers 2 is not brutally priced, and the standard Warbond tiers don't lock out of any of the cooler bombardments. Compared to something like COD it's kind of night and day in terms of what you get for what you spend. Unless Helldivers starts adding Snoop Dog, and Kevin Durant skins for $25 don't I don't see any major issue with it's current premium content.

DivineHand12567d ago

I also think it's blown out of proportion. DMC5 also had microtransactions that allow you to buy orbs which is something you start earning in-game as soon as you start playing.

anast67d ago

People made a deal out of DMC5 too.

victorMaje67d ago

To me it’s simple. No mtx in a single player game.

NotoriousWhiz67d ago (Edited 67d ago )

Personally, I'd say mtx are okay for any game which is constantly being updated with additional content post launch (and only if that content isn't also sold as DLC)

Generally speaking, single player games aren't (and should not be) constantly updated with new content and so they should not have MTX.

victorMaje67d ago

@Crimson

Were it up to me I’d have no MTs in any type of game. Afaic they’ve cheapened the Multiplayer scene.
A lot of effort is now put into MTs design & implementation instead of being put in gameplay or other aspects. Effort that could be focused on making games more fun or engaging or immersive.
I don’t want that for single player games.

Crows9067d ago

You don't remember doesn't mean there wasn't.

The collective judgement or lack of doesn't exclude the existence of blow back against whatever it is that is an issue.

The only reason helldivers didn't get as much flack is because of the impact of the mtx.

The impact of the mtx in dragons dogma 2 is huge when compared. That doesn't mean one is good and the other is bad....that's your perception.

They're both bad.

CrimsonWing6967d ago (Edited 67d ago )

Nothing to this degree, like at all. My point is DD2 micros are on the same level as DMC V’s, which is to say you DON’T need to spend any money on them to enjoy and complete the game. It’s highly likely why they weren’t mentioned en masse with reviews.

anast67d ago

"Probably because they’re completely optional and all of it can easily be gotten in the game."

They are supposed to inform the customer about all of the options. It's their job.

anast67d ago

How is a product reviewer not responsible for reviewing a product? This is a genuine question. Or do you agree?

mkis00766d ago

you absolutely can justify them for one game and not another. especially considering one of the games is a purely single player experience...

CrimsonWing6966d ago

We’ll agree to disagree. I don’t think it’s acceptable in one game and unacceptable in another. You can literally play DD2 without buying a single one and enjoy the game. It’s not designed with progression blocking that forces you to buy these. That’s my point. But people have this knee jerk reaction when micros gets name dropped, yet they’re perfectly fine with them in other games… it’s weird af.

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Dragon's Dogma 2 Has Sold 3 Million Units In 2 Months

Dragon's Dogma 2, Capcom's latest JRPG, has reached a new sales milestone, rolling over 3 million copies in a span of two months.

isarai3d ago

Hands fown my game of the generation so far, definitely has some flaws and buggy quests, but damn is it good, and surprisingly flexible in how it allows creativity and different approaches to resolve quests and reacts accordingly.

banger882d ago

I just picked this up for PS5. I'm going to hold off playing as long as I can though, in case they decide to add a new performance mode. I don't want to play this at 30 fps unless I absolutely have no other choice (PC isn't a choice for me). I have a dozen other games in my backlog so I'm good.

VincentCastle2d ago

I have it on ps5 and pc and it plays as actually pretty well on PS5. The uncapped frame rates works best for the game then the newly added Max 30fps version.
The only town that gets the frame rates down between 25-35 ish is the first big city, but you won't be that much in it to be fair - I spent from 50 hours about 3 in the city and the rest exploring and the second main town which has better fps.

-on pc with my 3080 and 10700k CPU, the fps outside is better for sure as it can do stable 60fps... But it's the same or worst for the main city. I had fps between 20-50ish and the drops were really noticeable. But the same, most time was spent outside.

Nerdmaster2d ago

Really tried to like the first one, started it like 5 times, but it didn't click with me.
I'll try the sequel someday, but I'll wait for a good (like 50%) discount.

Cacabunga2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

It will end up on PS+ extra someday.
It is good devs release the game first and release it months later on PS+ to give it a second life.
If it was on sub service day one it would have sold 300.000 Max

ravens522d ago

Just curious, does this count as successful?

jznrpg2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

For a sequel to a niche game from the PS3 days I would think 3 million is very good. But I don’t know their sales expectations so I can’t say for sure.

EternalTitan2d ago

I . . .dont know.
AAA companies are weird. It depends on their fiscal stuff.
I would guess its successful because the first game sold way less in the same time frame.

EternalTitan2d ago

Knew the game had long legs. It had some disappointing issues like performance, dumb microtracsanctions at the beginning. There is a DLC coming. Wonder what that will add to the game.

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Stellar Blade has sold more physical copies than Dragon's Dogma 2 in Japan, despite PS5 exclusivity

By the looks of it, PlayStation 5 exclusivity does not hurt the sales of Stellar Blade in Japan as the game has passed 90,000 sold physical copies.

Hugodastrevas7d ago

Stellar Blade really deserves way more praise than it got, devs have been adding more and more content, for free, since release and the game already was great to begin with!

BrettAwesome7d ago

More than it got? It got tons, by everyone except the sad wankers who's idea of a sex life, is pulling on their dicks while watching big fake cgi titties 😂

gerbintosh6d ago

Don't see the difference between cgi titties and fake boobs. Also no difference to wanking it to either one of them since both aren't physically there

RiseNShine6d ago

Salty that the game is doing well hm? ;) I suggest some cheese with your whine.

Skuletor6d ago

So you're saying the people that like watching CGI tits didn't praise the game? An educated guess is you meant the opposite.

BrettAwesome6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

@Risenwhine
What the fuck are you talking about? I think it looks like an awesome game. I don't get the sentiment that it didn't get as much praise as it deserved. The only ones who's been shit talking it, are sad wankers with no sex life. Am I whining? How? 😂

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Cacabunga7d ago

I think we can safely claim that Stellar Blade 2 is confirmed!
I got it day one, i have some backlog due to RDR2 i just platinumed.. i will get to Stellar Blade in the near future

shinoff21837d ago

Same but I'm hitting yakuza right now. Stellar blade looks cool though.

neutralgamer19927d ago

Capcom really dropped the ball with DG2. They had easy success on their hand but instead with their stupid decisions ruined the games success

Stellar blade is an amazing game and deserves all the success. For all the artificial hate it got from people who had no interest in the game to begin with this shows if you make a good game it will sell. The so called 1st party drought from PlayStation has meant 4 exclusives in 2024 so far. Other companies need to learn how to run a business and plan for the future

H97d ago

Stellar blade is performing very impressively there, DD2 didn't do well because word of mouth destroyed it's reputation and not about the Microtransactions or performance, bad word of mouth about how the game lacks so many things that were in the first one

Redemption-647d ago

DS2 sold 2.5M in a little over a week, what the hell are you talking about?

H97d ago

"there", that's Japan, this article is about Japan, the bad word of mouth is about Japan

Hereandthere7d ago

Exclusives matter. No matter what bumbling phil and bond try to say, exclusives is why you buy a console.

The_Hooligan7d ago

How dare you speak common sense!!??

jznrpg7d ago

It would if they added a lot more combat and didn’t focus on graphics

XiNatsuDragnel7d ago

Stellar blade is great excited for 2

anast7d ago

They dropped the ball with dogma. SB is a solid game, it just had to weather the social storm.

shinoff21837d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Said that dd2 was missing things the first one did,like mass effect 2? I haven't played it so I'm really asking.

spss117d ago

I've played both and I have no idea what people say when they claim it's "incomplete". I've only noticed new things in comparison to DD1 (I would give a list but spoilers). Sometimes I wonder if some people actually played DD1 or maybe they remember it differently. Anyways, if you liked the first one and want more of that, you'll probably like DD2.

anast6d ago

Yeah, the content, combat movement is slower, less vocations, the armor system, it's more simplified, and dungeons are lacking. It's like they rushed it out or something, but didn't forget to add in youtuber pawns and micros. At least ME 2 upped the content.

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"Dragon's Dogma 2 asks the player to immerse themselves into its brutal action role-playing world - but rewards those willing to play by its rules."

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