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The Xbox-PlayStation Exclusive Merger: To Trade, Or Not To Trade

Jawad from eXputer says, "Xbox's decision to share its exclusive titles with PlayStation marks a major change in the gaming industry, in a good way."

Hofstaderman71d ago

No it isnt in a good way. Lets not pretend XBOX chose this please. Years of mismanagement led to this.

Petebloodyonion71d ago (Edited 71d ago )

So I guess Xbox's mismanagement led to PC gaming now having decent games since MS started to care about Windows and forced Sony to do so too.
Care to also elaborate on how gaming is worse now since PC gaming is again relevant?

Hofstaderman71d ago

We talking about XBOX here. The console not XBOX as a service. But very soon XBOX will likely only be a service in any case. Toodles, I'm off to play Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth now.

S2Killinit71d ago (Edited 71d ago )

Not sure why its relevant. PC technically does not compete with consoles. You dont really lose anything in terms of competition. But consoles not having any exclusives = no competition = less quality.

Ps: I wouldnt think xbox on PC has revolutionized PC. More like a drop in a bucket.

Pedantic9171d ago

Are you implying PC games weren't good until MS/XBOX started putting their games there ? Are we ignoring every game that was available on the PC before they started to give a sh** ?

blacktiger71d ago

Linux says HI enters by Valve and Steam Platform that doesn't depend on windows anymore.

rlow171d ago

@S2Killinit
“PC technically does not compete with consoles. You dont really lose anything in terms of competition.”

I disagree, Sony lost a value of 10 billion as a company because they forecasted 2 million less in sales of the PS5. My point, PC has an impact and people are buying. To say the market doesn’t compete is to ignore the blending of both markets. The fact that Sony put games on the pc started the shift. Now the first title from Sony to go day and date (helldivers2) has moved the needle even farther towards this blend. With a new ceo I feel more change is coming. The margins for tripple A games has thinned significantly and profits have to come from somewhere and I see a future where more day and date for the pc increasing.

Hopefully I’m wrong, but the firing of so many industry workers speaks volumes that times are changing.

Crows9071d ago

Im sorry...PC gaming has been relevant since before xbox was a brand.

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anast70d ago

No forcing there. Sony chose when and how in both PC and Xbox. It wasn't the other way around.

StoneTitan70d ago

pc gaming always had decent games, what are you talking about :D

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Ironmike71d ago

Xbox is ahead of the game in this mark my words sony fowolling is proof this it makes sense for both parties oh and final fantasy rebirth is only a timed exclusive it's coming to pc

BehindTheRows71d ago (Edited 71d ago )

Sony isn't following anything. One puts there games on another platform from day 1. All of them. The other still has plenty of titles that have yet to come to PC.

Totally different strategies. Only one of them has worked. That's why Xbox games are coming to Nintendo and PlayStation platforms.

tehpees371d ago

BehindTheRows

I’ll say what I said before.

Microsoft made instant acknowledgement that their exclusives were cross gen at the start of Series life. Sony had cross gen PS5 games but tried to cover it up. They started releasing on PC because they saw Microsoft doing it. Then they released certain games day 1 in certain cases.

They are SAYING AND DOING the SAME THINGS as MS in every case. This won’t be the exception. If you think they aren’t watching how people react to buying their exclusives on PlayStation you’re mistaken. They are watching it as well because there is actually a possibility the world might accept playing competing exclusives while a hardware brand still exists. If you think they aren’t toying with the idea of releasing their games on Xbox that’s why you don’t work for Sony

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ChasterMies70d ago

Mostly one year, 2013. Don’t know how Don Mattrick was employable after this.

Petebloodyonion71d ago

I fail to see why ppl are mad about this like they are losing something because other gets to enjoy the same game.
Like honestly do you go hate on Google because they are releasing their apps on iPhones?
Did Google Android OS become irrelevant?
And likewise with the iPhone?

It reminds me of when Playstation fanboys were against crossplay with other consoles because they believed that losers (owners of other brands) should just be forced to buy a PlayStation.
Yet tks to Crossplay some small games like Evil Dead, Texas Chainsaw, etc are still playable today.

GamerRN71d ago

You are comparing operating systems to consoles, and not many people buy a console because of it's operating system.

Petebloodyonion71d ago

So why do you pick an iPhone over an Android since there's no big exclusive?
Same thing here why would Playstation or Xbox collapse if you could play their games on other systems?
Last I checked a console was made to play games and a smartphone was made to use apps
And it's not like ppl who own a Xbox will suddenly have their friend on PSN and vice versa.

GamerRN71d ago (Edited 71d ago )

Because cellphones you buy based on the operating system. Consoles you buy for the games. No one cares that much about the console UI. We want a good interface, but that's it.

If cellphones were only about the apps, Apple wouldn't exist in the cellphone space anymore

Crows9071d ago

@pete

People that pick iphone over android are pretty ignorant...so yeah not a good comparison...unless you love being robbed.

outsider162471d ago

"It reminds me of when Playstation fanboys were against crossplay with other consoles because they believed that losers (owners of other brands) should just be forced to buy a PlayStation."
When did you start playing games?maybe research who refused first over crossplay. Ill give you a hint - when microsoft were leading.

Profchaos71d ago

there's a element of well why did I buy this because I could have brought the ps5 and played both

MIDGETonSTILTS1771d ago

If you remove the pressure from M$ to make cutting-edge AAA games by giving them Sony games instead, then you remove the pressure from Sony as well to make AAA games to stay competitive.

A lowered bar for M$ means a lowered bar for all console makers. I want Sony’s bar kept high so they don’t stop making $350 million games like Spider-Man 2.

Keep taking risks for the art form, you fat cats.

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Asterphoenix71d ago

Well they are not getting the sales they want on Xbox and PC. So they have decided to port titles to other consoles there's nothing else to it.

Ironmike70d ago

U do realise that helldivers is selling more on pc I don't about other games sony will start releasing more games quicker to pc in fact they said that already what u all don't realise is its a bout money sony and xbox want max profits they don't care if they upset fan boys

gerbintosh70d ago (Edited 70d ago )

Max profits would be to release the $70 must have game on console for a period of time and then when that well has run dry, tap the PC market. Like Sony is doing right now.

Helldiver's 2, while a good game, is not a $70 ($40) must have game and Sony probably thought it was going to bomb which it did, on console.

P_Bomb71d ago

“Corny? I know.”

A bit, lol. Lots of kumbaya, but if you want Halo that bad in 2024, the old ways still apply. I don’t see Hellblade 2 dropping on PS this year either.

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OzzY-waZZy70d ago

Literally no one wants Halo lol. Helldivers stole their lunch.

Sciurus_vulgaris71d ago

Microsoft making some, key word SOME of its games available on other platforms is being over blown. Then again, we live in an era we’re
journalists focuses on sensationalism and promoting drama, instead of analysis and professional reporting.

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Microsoft's quest for short-term $$$ is doing long-term damage to Windows, Surface, Xbox, and beyond

Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation, and it all revolves around Satya Nadella and CFO Amy Hood's plans to increase every department's margins.

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Brazz15h ago

"The plan to move Xbox games to other platforms is codenamed "Latitude" internally, and I know there's debate and unease at Microsoft about whether or not this is a good idea. More upcoming Microsoft-owned games slated for PlayStation are already being developed. At least for now, they're potentially obvious games you'd most likely expect. And yes, while it's true Microsoft is a prolific publisher on PlayStation already, it has typically revolved around specific franchises like Minecraft. From what I've heard, Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation, and it all revolves around Satya Nadella and CFO Amy Hood's mandate to increase every department's margins. "

Yeah, they are going to kill Xbox hardware.

Xeofate12h ago

"Yeah, they are going to kill Xbox hardware."

It's for the best.

Quit stringing along xbox fans and screwing over PlayStation owners.

crazyCoconuts8h ago

Take good care of those Xboxes if you have 'em ...

outsider16247h ago

An Xbox game on a Playstation. Never in my years of gaming did i ever thought this was gonna happen.

jznrpg3h ago

It is dying anyway so doesn’t make much of a difference

VersusDMC3h ago

No way can they get rid of the hardware as probably 90% of game pass subscribers are hardware users.

Highly doubtful those users will move to PC or Cloud to subscribe there and the competition (Sony and Nin) will never have gamepass on their system.

If they want to keep the current subscribers, they need to keep releasing new hardware.

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gold_drake14h ago

i think it will kill off the xbox brand. windows will be fine.

but there is and would be a chance that xbox might be killed off in the future. if they fail to make the money they put in. imo.

S2Killinit11h ago

They wont kill it, but they will go fully PC while keeping xbox as a brand, and go multiplatform for the most part. They will also work tirelessly to diminish console gaming’s importance.

PRIMORDUS8h ago

It would be best if Xbox goes the way of Sega, just make and publish games. I know I myself will not support them at all with buying games from them, you all can. 🙃

ChasterMies7h ago

The Xbox brand will live for the games. I don’t expect Microsoft to entirely drop out of gaming hardware. They make Surface tablets and laptops. They’ll make Xbox branded hardware for those that want it.

shadowT13h ago

"Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation"

Forza and Starfield next?

Skuletor12h ago

Starfield would be no surprise and there's the rumor that it will come to Playstation after the Shattered Space DLC, Forza (along with Halo and Gears of War) I find less likely but I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually end up on PlayStation too, especially if Xbox give up on hardware and go the Sega route.

shinoff218312h ago

Not to worried about forza. I'd rather see others like what inxile and obsidian are working on. Starfield sounds like it needs more time in the oven so let it cook first imo. If starfield and it's a small if does release on ps it'll be in the fall around the time for dlc or right at the dlc and come packaged with it.

-Foxtrot13h ago

In the words of Phil Spencer when he was talking about Nintendo last year

“It's just taking a long time for Microsoft to see that their future exists off of their own hardware"

S2Killinit11h ago

Yup. MS are a cancer to console gaming.

Aloymetal11h ago

100%!!
I wonder what happened to that dude that was always here posting those court articles with cartoons about MS spending all those billions in studios. He suddenly disappeared, I guess he doesn't like bad news when the green brand is in trouble. No new articles from him as of late...

PRIMORDUS8h ago

Yup, and it's only going to keep spreading.

Outside_ofthe_Box8h ago

Phil Spencer's words always comes back to bite him lol

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Epic Games Faces $1.2 Million Fine Over "Unfair Practices," Plans to Fight Back

Epic Games is facing a $1.2 million fine by the Netherlands Authority for Consumers and Markets over "unfair practices" in the Fortnite shop.

Sciurus_vulgaris1d 5h ago

It might be cheaper to simply pay the fine. Fighting said fine could cost millions due to court and lawyer fees. Fortnite generates well over a 100 million in each month, so Epic has plenty of cash.

franwex21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

But if they did pay it, then they are basically admitting that they did something they weren’t supposed to be doing. If they fight it, they may win and continue to have a sense of urgency for their micro transactions thus making more money long term.

Goodguy0114h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Meaning more suits to follow from others if they don't fight as well.

Not a fan of Epic nor fortnite and their micro transactions. But the game is heavily supported and is free to play, all store items are completely cosmetic.

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Furesis17h ago

I'd fight back too. These are kinda meaningless reasons to fine someone like really for THAT. It's like they just wanted to make money or something.

Sephiroushin7h ago

There is a law for something, but even if its stupid follow it because if you break it you pay for it; if they knew they cant place a “buy now” in NL then just dont do it!

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Dev Gets Windows 11 To Run On A Nintendo Switch, Don't Try This At Home

The OS works, but it barely crawls along on the Nintendo Switch's older ARM chipset.

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OtterX21h ago

Yeaaa... no. It's cool to say that you got it running as a bragging right, but this is completely unusable. I like how he hits the screen while trying to type! X'D

Vits15h ago

I mean it always start like this. Ubuntu was the same, started with just being able to load the GUI, now people can play classic PC titles like Fable and Warcraft 3 as well as emulate GC, Wii, 3DS and PS2 on their Switch. With Windows things are definitely harder because Windows on Arm is pretty garbo, but who knows in a couple of years.