Spencer announces conference for next week

Xbox boss Phil Spencer "We've been planning a business update event for next week, where we look forward to sharing more details with you about our vision for the future of Xbox. Stay tuned."

[The_Klank]

I wonder what this could be about?

[crazyCoconuts]

Google for all the Xbox rumors going on the last few weeks. It's related to that

[Eonjay]

I don't understand what the complaints are about from Xbox fans. They were the ones asking for the acquisition. This is the result. No one is going to spend almost $100 Billion to keep them from making as much money as possible. I think they really believed that shareholders wanted to donate $100 Billion to play console wars.

[darthv72]

Thats the thing with rumors though. Easy to proclaim but hard to deny because people will still think they are lying no matter what. i think they should just play it cool like they are doing now. all this talk about this game or that game sure is getting lots of people in a twist... they need to just cool their tits.

[Eonjay]

@Darth

People will think they are lying no matter what because they are proven liars. Thats not the point. A lot of Xbox fans are upset about the silence or their perception that Xbox is not being upfront with its plans. I think if they had just come out months ago and said, we are going multiplatform, people would have their feelings, but they would at least know Xbox was being straightforward. Thats whats missing here. The rumors are only rumors because Xbox hasn't been clear with their plan.

[crazyCoconuts]

So, @Darth, Phil said "We've been planning a business update event for next week"
And you're proposing that they are going to say "Here's our business update. No changes, you guys were all wrong"
Update kinda implies something is changing, doesn't it?

[darthv72]

No crazy... i just said that rumors are tough to address even if trying to deny them because people will believe what they want regardless.

[fr0sty]

Pay close attention to what they are calling it... "Business Update Event", this isn't a pre-scheduled event, it isn't aimed at revealing new games, it isn't even aimed at gamers... it's an update on the business end of Xbox, aimed at their shareholders, who likely are not happy about how slowly Xbox is expected to recover the nearly 100 billion they spent acquiring these publishers. So, they are updating these shareholders on the future business plans of Xbox, so them going third party sounds more likely than not.

Microsoft is pulling a Sega... but with a much bigger game developer portfolio.

[wesnytsfs]

@Eonjay, I know I do not care. This is what Sony will eventually do as well. Stupid to force gamers to play on a console they do not want to play on. I know I hate the PS controller layout Im sure their are just as many who feel that way about the xbox controller layout.

[Cacabunga]

I cannot stand seeing or hearing this guy

[fr0sty]

"How to play Xbox games on PS5"

https://ibb.co/vYNsX4L

[crazyCoconuts]

"This is what Sony will eventually do as well."
No frickin way. You're kidding yourself. The fewer Xboxes there are the cheaper it is for them to secure an exclusive. That's why losing the console war compounds on itself the further behind you are. It's like compounding interest.

[Eonjay]

@wesnytsfs
Jury is still out on that but I feel like PlayStation is such a large part of Sony that they will resist as long as they can.

[fr0sty]

Ex-Box

[S2Killinit]

It’s a lying appointment.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

Those are some crazy rumours, but based on their current behaviour, those are some believable moves for Xbox.

@wesnytsfs,
I friggin hate the Xbox controller layout, I bought the 8bitdo ultimate controller because of the rave reviews, and the fact that Win11 messed up Bluetooth badly, so a lot of stuff like my 8bitdo Pro 2 won't connect (It's a struggle to connect my AVR or bluetooth speaker). PS controllers have always been more comfortable for me, but I'm pretty sure Xbox controllers are pretty popular though, so someone will probably make a 3rd party controller for PS.

You could always go PC, most games from Sony end up there too anyway, as well as almost all the Xbox games, or maybe get a Switch.

[shadowT]

new Halo

[RaidenBlack]

lol,
Now, Sea of thieves and Hi-fi I can understand
heck even Starfield
but Halo on PS? That sounds soooo .. weird?
Halo defined Xbox and now its leaking into the very rival platform, for which Xbox owes its existence?
< I'd say port everything from Starfield to Senua II but keep some legacy IPs like Halo, Gears, Fable & Forza exclusive to the Xbox. >
:-P

[VenomUK]

Hopefully Phil Spencer announces that Microsoft is making an officially licensed PS5 controller with haptics etc , but using the Xbox controller chassis! Then you get the best of both worlds! 🎮

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

I get the feeling we won't see any new games, maybe more about upcoming games that were already announced at best.

[IRetrouk]

@raiden, sonic on ps or nintendo sounded weird too once🤷🏻‍♂️
If they are gonna do it they may as well just go whole hog, sell your games on rival platforms, offer gamepass on your own console and pc, should be good to go.

[RaidenBlack]

@IRetrouk
yea well, MS's still in the console business unlike the SEGA 2001 exit.
I am not talking the hypothetical Xbox exit, which is yet to happen or may not happen.
So for the meantime i.e in near future, IMHO, MS can port every of their recent exclusives to PS except their revered flagship IPs. (Halo, Gears)
Of course if MS actually exits the console hardware market in about ~5 years, they will no doubt port those to PS as well, but before that, I guess they'll keep some and port the rest.

[bloop]

There's rumours doing the rounds on twitter now that Gears could be one of the franchises coming to PS5. Hard to believe MS would release Gears, Halo or Forza on PS but who knows the way things are going. Could be all bullshit but we'll all find out next week either way.

[1Victor]

@Raiden: “but Halo on PS? That sounds soooo .. weird?
Halo defined Xbox and now it’s leaking into the very rival platform, for which Xbox owes its existence?”
I can tell you it’s was disturbing playing a Sonic the Hedgehog on PlayStation and Nintendo but after a few games reality g starts to settle and the console hardcore players begin to accept it and live with it.

[Obscure_Observer]

"I wonder what this could be about?"

Well, FINALLY, Phil Spencer himself will gives us a definitive answer whether/if Xbox will go full third party, partially third party AND/IF Xbox will leave the console market for good leaving Xbox gamers behind.

The way he said "Stay Tuned." gives me hope. :)

[crazyCoconuts]

Was it... Like... "Stay Tuned!:⁠-⁠):⁠-⁠):⁠-⁠)"
or more like "stay tuned. :⁠-⁠\:⁠-⁠|:⁠-⁠("
Seriously though, clarity is long overdue.

[darthv72]

just by virtue of having games like minecraft and now CoD they are already a partial third party. i can see them making some of their other live service games more available to others. Grounded, sea of thieves, those could do well on ps and switch. Combining player counts to up their engagement. live service games should not be walled off... they need to be as open and available to a wider audience as possible.

[Eonjay]

Xbox isn't going anywhere. If thats what you were worried about you can take a sigh of relief now. If fact going third party will only ensure they stick around. I think its the box people are worried about and I get that because some sort of competition is needed, but because like 95% of GP subs are on Xbox, the idea that Xbox is going away is not even realistic.

[LabRat]

Oh man Obscure... If the rumors had a SHRED of falseness to them, he'd deny it via X (formerly Twitter) and he'd say more to come next week, but the rumors are "false". This is true, and the PR message will be VERY vague like "Xbox loves all gamers, we want to include as many people as possible in our games, we are thrilled to announce X, Y and Z will be going to playstation and nintendo and all future games will be case by case!" (Hence all future games will be that route).

[BoneMagnus]

I can’t help but laugh at the fact that whatever darthv72 says - on any topic -he gets at least 66% disagrees on average.

[Hofstaderman]

Dude why wait a week? The man is obviously aware of the rumours and the internet going into a meltdown. Perhaps the PR team is formulating a very carefully worded script for him. Its very clear Phil has been reigned in by a very irate CFO. They want their return on investment by any means. Not saying XBOX is leaving the console market but XBOX centric media and their sources are leaking that all the XBOX tentpole games are going to be released on other consoles due to metrics.

[fr0sty]

Why wait a week?

1. It's easy... have a bunch of people leak the news via "rumors".
2. Announce you're going to talk about it in a week, without denying it... sending the community into full on meltdown.
3. After everyone has had some time to digest the shock from it all, and people start to calm down, then deliver the news.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

I wouldn't be surprised if they left the hardware space, they just can't get people to buy Xboxes, and Gamepass is already available on other devices like PC. I think we're more likely to see them announce a slew of games for PS/Nintendo consoles.

I've actually heard more rumours this week of Xbox games going to other consoles, but that could just be the internet snowball effect or something.

@BoneMagnus,
Doesn't matter what he says any more, whether it's true or not, he'll get buried in disagrees regardless.

[Father__Merrin]

I think it makes sense that partial third party

[shinoff2183]

I feel it'll be partial. They did say game by game basis.

I am annoyed at all these xbox guys pointing to sony raising prices like the ps3. Ps3 was 600 at launch cause of bluray, with that said so

[Jin_Sakai]

They’re going multiplatform. We knew it was coming just a matter of when.

[Eonjay]

As someone pointed out, this alone will make them the biggest publisher in the world. So its a win win. Xbox isn't going anywhere and PlayStation is getting the content it would have got if not for the merger.

[darthv72]

Technically... they already are. People want to know will they be even more third party now or not.

[fr0sty]

@eon Them being so hesitant to sign contracts for chips for a new Xbox, and Phil saying they may have to reconsider their strategy of remaining in the console business by 2027 are in stark contrast with your "Xbox isn't going anywhere" comments.

[darthv72]

@fr0sty... I thought it was posted not long ago that MS were looking into ARM tech for their next platform. The lack of a deal with AMD could certainly be a sign of that different direction.

[crazyCoconuts]

It's win win if you're comfortable with Xbox continuing to sink in the sales charts. If they continue to sink, they won't make more hardware.
I'm not sure I'd use GP subs as rationale for Xbox hardware sticking around. Heard much about GamePass lately? You think you'll get CoD for the same GP price? Now that GP growth has leveled off, I bet the love affair at MS is over

[fr0sty]

@darth

Them going with ARM would be a huge mistake, as it would put them at a big disadvantage for third party games... They would be running on a completely different architecture from the PCs many of these games are developed on, and from PlayStation... So developers would have to port every single game to a completely different architecture, which would take time and money to do, and it would cost them games as a result, in addition to performance issues due to developers not wanting to put in the time needed to optimize their games for an entirely different architecture. Think about what happened with PS3 and Cell.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

@darthv72,
I'm more inclined to think they'd go to Nvidia first like Nintendo supposedly has, but we'll see.

[Kiryu1992]

In my opinion, they will announce that they will be bringing games to other platforms maybe not day one. Also, this does not affect Xbox fanbase at all because they can still play the games on game pass.

If people on other consoles want to play, they have to pay full price or wait for a seal, unless game pass can be brought to other platforms

Just like when PlayStation brought their games to PC early on, they had some PlayStation fans mad but now no one cares it’s just part of business

Microsoft spent almost $100 billion on acquisitions and they need to make this money back or at least they want to make this money back. To Xbox fanboys it may sound good to stay at 3rd but MS wants Xbox division to be really profitable and self sustaining not needing parent company to keep funding them

[fr0sty]

Gamepass doesn't have to come to other platforms, they can license their games to appear on PS+ Premium, for instance, and still make money on them that way.

[PhillyDonJawn]

But they are profitable in fact they profit better than PS do. So being in 3rd hasn't hurt their bottom line they're still rolling in cash.

[Kiryu1992]

In my humble opinion

Do you have any data that backs up this claim that Xbox is more profitable than PlayStation? It doesn’t sell more games, it doesn’t sell more hardware

Xbox used its parent company funds to buy publishers. And I stand by my point:

It hurts no one if more gamers get to play the games. Why does it matter or affect an Xbox gamer if their game could be played by others. Same goes for PlayStation. That’s why PC gets best of Butt worlds while console gamers (not all but some) are arguing over who has a better plastic box

We should all enjoy our hobby and play together

[mkis007]

Id go a step further and say this meshes with their digital only plans for their box. Xbox is the ghost in the machine not the machine itself.

[babadivad]

😂😂😂

[Lightning77]

Them going 3rd party. What else? I say why wait and let us know they're going full 3rd party now.

[Plague-Doctor27]

Probably want to wait for the fervor to die down a bit before announcing anything. And also buying time for their PR team to make sure the message comes out as best as it can

[SyntheticForm]

If I had to guess I'd say it's going to be pure damage control dealing with all the third party talk.

[Sharky231]

MS shareholders have seen how PlayStation owners buy games. They spent way too much money on publishers to keep those games exclusive. Sure if GamePass subs would have picked up and console sales went up. We wouldn’t be hearing these rumors about 3rd party. To me it’s a no brainer straight 3rd party and they will be #1 is games and making a lot of money for share holders.

[Chevalier]

Missing targets 2 years straight and now coming up 3rd straight year of missing targets and now high cost of this purchases makes Gamepass unsustainable.

Without Playstation and Nintendo sales they're leaving too much on the table. 25 million potential Xbox customers who don't buy games. Release games on the Switch and Playstation and 25 million goes up to 170 million potential customers.

[Tzuno]

All the mfkers that work on D4 will be fired :)))

[shinoff2183]

Lol.

So I came across this on xboxera, it's from a user with the name anecronomicon(hope I spelled it right). I personally think he's spot on

"BTW it doesn’t take a genius to figure out what happened: MS acquired two publishers & a total of 22,000 developers which the Xbox hardware install base is not large enough to accommodate for. It’s a sudden & unsustainable growth for a platform with roughly 30 million or so hardware owners & Gamepass subscribers.

That’s what happened. I mean after the initial ‘surprise’ at the news, it’s fairly obvious the Activision acquisition put too much sudden pressure & strain on the hardware division to sell enough consoles & achieve high enough the Gamepass subscription numbers to make the entire venture profitable.

Third placed Xbox basically cannot sustain 22,000 developers & all their output by itself. The business grew too fast beyond the scope of their hardware & services reach. Now console users are going to be in a worse position because we’re back to square one with Bethesda & Activision (which were always multiplatform anyway), it looks like Xbox Game Studios content is going multiplat as well (gross) & the hardware will take a nosedive because there’s going to be no point buying it when all their games are available elsewhere."

Basically saying with all Xbox just bought their small base cant sustain all this.

Ms isn't gonna foot the bill for another 10 to 15 trying to build that base, they've been doing it. Gamepass certainly isn't helping. Yall were so happy about those day one games, in the end it helped in all this in a negative way. Alot of ps users were trying to tell yall

[1Victor]

“I wonder what this could be about?”
( insert here joke about retirement/going multi platform)

I don’t know what it is but should be fun.

[TheEroica]

Xbox is about to make a truck load of money being a publisher with that many studios.

[Master of Unlocking]

Well, in that memo Phil Spencer doesn't flatout dismiss those rumors, so I'd say they're gonna publish a few Xbox games on the PlayStation 5, but not as many as originally planned before the outcry. That will come later, in a much more discrete manner.
I do not believe for one second he's gonna say that's it with Xbox, we're done, no more hardware and we're going the Sega route, so calm down my Xbox friends.

[MrDead]

MS buys Bethesda, bans them from releasing games on their most profitable console platform takes them through two rounds of dev firings just so a handful of extremely rich people get richer and now it looks like they could be allowing Bethesda to put it's games back on PS. No new games just a movement of wealth, industry consolidation and firings, MS is a disease.

[Mikeyy]

Don't forget Microsoft bought Activision just to fire Bobby Kotic and save all the female developers from his sexual wrath. Oh wait, Spencer and Kotic are BFFs and Kotic got a $400 million dollar retirement payout and sailed of happily into the sunset. LMFAO. also, Microsoft layed off 2000 employees from them, How many were victims of the harassment? Convenient way to get rid of future troubles.

[theindiearmy]

I've been saying all along with the Activision acquisition that their plan was to use COD as leverage to get Game Pass on Playstation. I still think that is the long game here and it starts with putting other titles on Playstation to make Game Pass more lucrative when it does launch. Wouldn't be surprised if they get Game Pass cloud streaming on Nintendo's console as well.

[fr0sty]

They don't need to put GamePass on PlayStation, they can still make a fortune licensing their games to PS+ Premium.

[Plague-Doctor27]

The guy who initially leaked all this is now saying COD isnt even coming to GamePass either

[mkis007]

How would that work though in practice? Ive been trying to figure out the logistics. Ms pays devs to have their games in the catalog, but with every new system (playstation, nintendo) they introduce the payment expands by at least double right? All those sales lost potentially to subscribers. Then you have the platform holders fee.

[Barlos]

GP isn't coming to playstation PlayStation. Ever. Why would Sony allow a service that competes with its own PS Plus?

[theindiearmy]

Because they like money and selling systems. Even subscription services have a fee that goes to Sony. Money they wouldn't otherwise be getting.
If MS started bringing their exclusives to Playstation via Game Pass, that would be an additional system seller for Sony.

[Lightning77]

What are you a broken record? They're goin multiplat so you can stop whining every 2 seconds about it.

[MrDead]

Why? Thousands of people lost their jobs just so MS could consolidate the industry and make a few extremely wealthy people even more rich. We now have three publishers no longer competing with each other MS, Activision and Bethesda, everything MS has done has been of no benefit to the industry.

...oh yeah let's also not forget that they can pull the plug anytime and ban those publishers from releasing games on any system they want.again.

[S2Killinit]

They are not going multiplatform. This is just an appointment to lie.

[mkis007]

This could even be a reaction to the public outcry over their layoffs. Get that extra "huge" revenue source and keep those people paid next time.

[Terry_B]

Inb4 a clarification that all these rumors are wrong and Xbox won't go multiplatform. Its a marketing stunt..nothing else.

[crazyCoconuts]

Dude that would be an interesting twist lol
That's playing with fire though... I think that's too ballsy for MS PR. At least some of these rumors are true, question is how far are they going?

[Mikeyy]

PR stunt? Bro they are getting very bad PR right now, from their hardcore supporters. This is a mistake if that's the case. He could have easily denied it all, but he didn't, that means something is true, How much? We'll see next week.

His message is an admission that something is up.

[darthv72]

Even trying to deny something is often times seen as the opposite. You would still have people saying they are lying and everything is true.

[crazyCoconuts]

@darth not if it's wholesale not true. "Xbox is not porting our exclusive titles to PlayStation" would have shut down the majority of this churning. Minimally there's a "yes, but" here.

[Terry_B]

Nay. Instead its happy face Phil saying that Xbox titles are exclusive and stay exclusive and that Xbox is the best blabla.

Something like that.

[fr0sty]

Keep in mind Phil referred to this as a "Business Update Event", not a "new game showcase" or a "future of Xbox" event... They are updating their entire business model, this event is for their shareholders (who are likely pissed that they are not making money off of this 100 billion dollar investment as they expected), not us gamers.

[neomahi]

Right. If it wasn't true, he'd have flat out said it's rumor. Next week, Xbox is going to make a big deal of it, and it's in their best interest to do so

[Profchaos]

Or as Reggie said "it's not the same game it's not the same content"

[neomahi]

No, I beg to differ. Spencer knows he needs to do this. He's seeing now just how profitable this will be, hes seeing PS fans will give his brand the attention he wants to make his games possible for Game of the Year which means sales. They may not stop selling the Xbox Series consoles, but it takes the stress and pressure of the Series S consoles so, Xbox will finish out this console generation but next gen, they're going consoleless but they'll go multiplatform. Imagine Phil Spencer allowing Bluepoint to remaster the original Gears of War trilogy for PlayStation, not even just 4 & 5, Gears of War isn't making money anymore, but releasing the series on PlayStation, what Epic originally wanted to do with the Xbox cow milked dry, now he can go after the PlayStation crowd and make a ton of money. It's gonna happen, but Xbox won't have a next Gen console, they'll support the Xbox Series consoles to finish this gen out

[Extermin8or3_]

You don't organise a pres conference for that.

[shinoff2183]

Marketing stunt. Over on xboxera there's people saying they've canceled their gamepass. Some say they are selling their Xbox. If it is a marketing stunt it's very ass backwards.

[Terry_B]

well..its Microsoft.

[generic-user-name]

This isn't the 'all these rumours are lies' you'd expect if they weren't at least partially true. This is a 'we'll talk about this after you've calmed down'.

[Limitedtimestruggle]

It's going to be a long and entertaining week for sure :D

[Terry_B]

Indeed. The comment sections on gaming sites will be exquisite <3

[babadivad]

Absolutely. 😂😂

[Ethereal]

Agreed.

[GoodGuy09]

This does kinda scare me. As much as hate xbox gets, I think them staying in the console bizz is great to keep the competition. Let's hope this just means that they are expanding gamepass and their first party on other platforms.

[Terry_B]

I think its has been over 10-15 years easily since Xbox was a competition for Nintendo and Sony

[babadivad]

That's not how Sony sees things.

[badz149]

@babadivad

actually, that was exactly how Sony saw MS and Xbox before Phil Spencer stepped up and brought daddy's checkbook to a shopping spree! it was fine when it was just devs but then he moved up to buy publishers! so yeah, for Sony, MS is not a competitor, but more of a threat.

[darthv72]

Its really telling... the hate is not towards the console or its games... its towards the company itself. their management (mismanagement). I dont care for MS... I can separate the two as i dont hold a grudge against the system or its games because of the company behind it... but plenty of others do.

[shinoff2183]

I talk shit but I still buy because I'm a gamer. My biggest issue with xbox is the decisions they've made. Hell for awhile I felt the Xbox 360 had better jrpgs then ps3 so I bought one to go with my ps3

[Profchaos]

Agree Xbox has fired a large portion of staff recently, they have made plans to kill of physical media and are clearly figuring out how to announce these plans.

People forget that Xbox is a division of a corporate juggernaut they somehow thinks that means shareholders are happy with throwing money on the fire until they win however they run profit and loss projections targeting each business stream it's clear that Xbox is not making the amount of money they expected the casual crowd didn't show up to play gamepass on their phones (paraphrased from a real quote that Phil made a year or so back he believed that they could get people's mums involved in core gaming).

I've recently been making an effort to collect physical x1 games that are playable offline e.g sunset overdrive and have grabbed so many titles for so little money I think that shows the gamepass attitude for less than 3 months of paying for GP I acquired all x1 exclusive games excluding infinite as that's just a license on a disc

[-Foxtrot]

I'm hoping Sony take more risks if they know they have no one up their backside competition wise

I want to see them take risks again with some weird games or maybe take a chance on some sequels they cancelled because they didn't think it would amount to anything, Days Gone 2 for example or The Order

With so many gamers playing and no competition to distract you this is the perfect time to start doing it.

[crazyCoconuts]

"no competition to distract you"
I hear ya, but competition is what drives excellence. It focuses you on giving the customers what they want. No competition is bad.

[-Foxtrot]

@crazyCoconuts

I'm not saying it's not, I'm just trying to find a silver lining in all this

I'd rather they use this to their advantage in a way that benefits us rather than them playing it safe and boring.

Like I love third person cinematic story based single player games but they have this thing where everything needs to be open with hubs or full on open world.

I want to see a first person shooter by them, a survival horror game, more platformers etc

[crazyCoconuts]

@fox, yeah I get the sentiment, but there's actually less reason to take risks on games when you're the only platform imo.
The silver lining for me is that Xbox was unsuccessful in putting PS out of business through buying up the supply of games. Better Sony be the survivor than MS...Sony at least earned it.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

I feel like this already happened with Sony, they've played it super safe so far and haven't put out anything unique or exciting for a while. They've shut down Japan Studio and even refused the opportunity to put out new or remasters of Shadow Hearts and Wild Arms games, I would at least love a Gravity Rush 3 (I'm sure that movie will suck, but if it leads to a Gravity Rush 3, I'm all for it).

I can't say Sony has thrilled me with games this gen, they seem to be relying more on a small number of certain types of games.

[Barlos]

Nah Xbox is cancer. It needs to go.

[gerbintosh]

After the ABK purchase the writing was on the wall. MS is going third party and getting out of the console business

[SimpleSlave]

Yikes!! It's about to get rough, boys and girls!! Just remember to hold on to those XBOX 360s just in case you don't like what's about to go down next week...

Oh, and also the Dreamcast 2 by the end of the year. Calling it now.

[fr0sty]

I could see maybe Valve trying to make SteamDeck into a console form factor to bring PC gaming into the living room more easily...

[badz149]

why would Valve wants to do that?

[Rockstar]

Steam deck+dock+controller already equals console...and I'm loving it!

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

They already tried that with Steam Machines, spoiler warning: it did not go well.

[babadivad]

Probably the most hapless leader of a studio this side of Kathleen Kennedy.

[Profchaos]

Xbox was always the spiritual successor to Sega after all.

4 consoles each and done
Master system, genisis, Saturn Dreamcast, third party publisher

Xbox, 360, one, series, third party publishing

[italiangamer]

Sherlock Holmes would be proud of you 🥸

[darthv72]

...and just like Sega, their 2nd was their most popular system.

[LabRat]

You listed 3 consoles for Sega and 4 for xbox.

[Profchaos]

I wrote
Master system
Mega drive
Saturn
Dreamcast

4 consoles I consider the sg1000 as the master system basically was and the CD/32x as add ons

[StormSnooper]

I don’t think they are going multiplatform.

[LightBringer]

They are leaving the hardware business going multiplatform obviously. They don't want to just come out of the blue randomly saying they are, it's a gradual process. Welcome to Playstation!

[badz149]

what's coming to PS? Forza? Gears? HALO??

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

Who knows, start placing your bets!

[MrSec84]

I doubt Microsoft will stop having hardware, there's still money to be made for them there, most likely the major releases will take some time to come over to PlayStation and Nintendo.

Most likely the resources to port these games over to PlayStation and Nintendo are scarce and Nintendo also hasn't announced their new platform either.
Microsoft can't announce Switch 2 or whatever it's called.

They probably also want the existing Xbox gamers to be into the Ecosystem and not lose the Game pass subs either, since it's very unlikely that Sony and Nintendo will allow Game pass on their systems.

Ms will make more money if they release the odd game elsewhere, trickle them out and keep XBox users feeling like they're special coz they still have a library of stuff from past gens and the stuff up to what's coming over the next few years.

[Profchaos]

Microsoft's never actually made any money off of the Xbox hardware.

They follow the give away the razer and sell the blade model

[gold_drake]

I believe it when i see it.

i especially dont believe anything he says ha.

[Jigga69]

He didn't deny anything despite xbox players selling their consoles. So the rumors are true. The end.

[badz149]

can we at least give him until 2027 like he promised?

[Master of Unlocking]

Selling their consoles? Really? Radical much? I don't get that train of thought, it's not like, if MS go third-party, partially or even completely, Xbox users will suddenly find themselves in a position where they can't buy games for their console anymore. Plus they have a controller and UI that are vastly different to what's on PlayStation, and maybe a better one when it comes to the latter at that...

Not to mention that if MS were leaving the hardware market, which I don't believe they will do any time soon, they'd probably be better off keeping their Xbox Series S/X in case it becomes rare and sees its price skyrocket. Just sayin'

[SPEAKxTHExTRUTH]

I don’t care either way. I’m slowly shifting over to PC gaming anyway. I can’t remember the last must have game I played made by MS so what difference does it make if they go 3rd party or not? I’ll still be able to play all their games on PC like I do now and I can still access all my Xbox friends on PC. Do whatever you want Phil just give me more games in the process…

[TheColbertinator]

PC gaming gets better every year. I never regret investing more money into PC.

[phoenixwing]

Agree with colbert. Pc all the way

[generic-user-name]

How do you deal with the constant poorly optimised ports, the compiling shader stutters, the much higher likelihood of running into cheaters online and having to wait for GTA6?

[badz149]

I'm the complete opposite. I have a mid-range rig with quite a library of games on Steam and EGS but no matter how hard I try, I just can't get into PC gaming. At first I thought because I suck using kb+m so I play with my DS4 and now Dualsense, I just don't feel it at all! and the trending pc games people are playing and raving about like CSGo, TF2, PUBG, Palworld, Lethal Company, Among Us, Roblox and all those MOBA and MMORPGs...I just can't get into any of them! I just don't see the appeal.

maybe it's because I'm working almost all day in front of a PC. I don't know. right now, I'm playing my PS3, PS4 (mostly remote play on Vita), PSP games (on Vita), GT7 mostly on PS5 and even bought PSVR2 very recently to play it on (still gets dizzy though sigh...) when I have time. PC just isn't doing it for me.

[StormSnooper]

I don’t know, I love consoles.

[Juancho51]

Did anyone really think they’d spend that much money to buy some of the biggest brands in gaming and keep it on their console that’s 3rd place in the little “Console Wars” everyone talks about on N4G? They dont care about console wars they care about $$$, and theres no $$$ in keeping titles that EVERYONE wants to play on one console.

Xbox barely had any exclusives for so long for this reason, they had this planned all along I’m guessing, just purchasing game studios and capitalizing on their IPs.

Hard to hate them for it, but they still suck for laying off so many people and for not contributing anything to the video game industry than greed and monopolizing.

[badz149]

the sad thing is, MS already had lots of unused IPs before this shopping spree but they only ever focused on Halo, Gears and Forza (and previously Fable) for so many years, these unused IP are forgotten. like you said, they only want to make money and thus their focus on only proven IPs!

[RhinoGamer88]

The future is Phil and his Executive will not be accountable for any future failures and will continue to enrich themselves while the XBOX hardware and software languishes. #noaccountabilty

[GamingSinceForever]

I recall Phil Spencer saying from the jump that exclusivity would be on a game by game basis. What would be shocking is if something like Starfield eventually releases elsewhere because that was the de facto system
seller.

[purple101]

Scamfield sure was a system seller

EBay was flooded with them in the weeks after release 😏

[Inverno]

Plot twist, they're buying PlayStation and that's now their future.

[Valkyrye]

Higher ups decided multi platform will make the company more money, this is well above Phil's pay grade.

[Hofstaderman]

One cannot take tens of billion of dollars from the mother body and not expect to pay them back. We have been saying for years that yes MS is worth trillions but the XBOX division is not. They did the maths; gamepass subs growth is stagnating, series consoles are not selling well even with a considerable discount that was applied across three months and actual game sales are non existent due to the gamepass effect. The result; Satya and the CFO together with the board have had enough and are now calling the shots.

[montebristo]

Gamepass on PlayStation

[GamingSinceForever]

That would never work unless they allowed Sony a much larger revenue share. Gamepass takes away from actual game sells and that is how Sony makes their money.

[Plague-Doctor27]

A version of GP with only MS 1st party titles (probably excluding ABK) would probably fly for Sony and Nintendo. No different than EA Play or Ubisoft+ at that point

No way theyd let you sub to GP to play stuff like Persona or Yakuza though

[GamingSinceForever]

Plague-Doctor27…I was going to add that but it still would serve them better to just allow a full retail release of those games even if delayed.

[montebristo]

I’m sure MS would compensate to double their subs. Or like mentioned only offer games that aren’t on PS to begin with. I know I wouldn’t have bought an Xbox if I could get gamepass on my PlayStation. Seems like a win for everyone to me. MS is focused on their services and Sony focused on their hardware.

[Destiny1080]

we just ordered 4 thousand PS5 dev kits

xbox fans were already mad because phil promised 12 teraflops & only delivered 10 teraflops

[LabRat]

"We've been planning...." No, this spiraled out of control and you need a week to put together a PR message.

[wesnytsfs]

Eventually they will all go multiplatform stupid not too. They do not make money on the console itself till much later in its life span.

[YourMommySpoils]

Ex-box, now they gone all digital. Kind of has a good name to it being an (X) Ex.

[InUrFoxHole]

Lol at the hold the line! Fuq that bring the games to everyone! LFGO!!!!

[EasilyTheBest]

I think Microsoft will announce their new Xbox Series like the ones that were revealed in their Activision court case. It will be more aligned with Windows, it will be all Gamepass & Digital games plus Steam will be on there. Also they'll be pivoting to have Xbox like the old Steam consoles that came out years back. Basically a PC Console that connects to your TV.
A ton of games will become third party.

[ocelot07]

I have said for years they will go multiplatform. But I don't think it will he so soon. So I'll believe it when I see it.

[SpacedDuck]

If this is about a majority of first party XBOX games going to PS5 they may as well shelve the mid gen refresh of Series X and all future plans for consoles. Simply not needed. Right now they are giving away every game with Game Pass and still can't sell consoles. I don't even know why I own an XBOX as my solid PC makes it irrelevent.

[ocelot07]

Thing is though. Even if they do go multiplatform. Doesn't mean they can't still release Xbox consoles. Some people simply just prefer the Xbox platform, the controller, the network.

[purple101]

I think they used to, but now Sonys online is super fast and the controller is clearly bigger, better,

Sonys recently revealed 30% of ps5 owners are new to playstation, so they are taking market share away, defectors are abandoning ship and getting playstations for sure mate,!

[ocelot07]

@purple101 oh wow I didn't know about the 30% new to playstation thing.

I still believe that Xbox will still have some sort of device/console for many years to come. Weather it's a digital only console or a streaming device.

[hiawa23]

This is exciting. Put the games on as many platforms as possible is best for all gamers.

[ironmonkey]

Yup cause 99% broke Xboxers don't buy Games, living off that one pay free play average Netflix subbeez.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Xbox going full third party and leaving the console business confirmed? I'm not very sure yet but this week will be interesting for sure.

[Hofstaderman]

Ironically it was the very ABK acquisition that sped this up. I dont believe Phil wasnt aware of this outcome as surely they must have done the math and realized that gamepass, low game sales and low console sales wouldnt be enough to cover the cost of the deal. Jim Ryans 10 year COD inclusion also screwed them over. CFO stepped in and Satya was likely outnumbered in a very interesting series of meetings.

[tbagmonster]

console wars are over, who gives a rats ass unless your 12 years old, just play games

[Einhander1972]

Phil be the hero we need, end this console war.

[cammers1995]

Xbox
is dying haha

[Abnor_Mal]

It’s so interesting seeing so many hardcore Xbox fans saying Xbox is dead, or whatever let everybody play where they want. Now everyone is saying it’s fine when just a few weeks ago many were saying something like this would never happen.

Next week can’t come soon enough so Phil and company can make a clear statement of where the Xbox brand is going in the future.

The ones I really feel sorry for are the ones who hoped and wished MS put Sony out of business. Something like this must be hitting them like a ton of bricks. Grown men on YouTube looking like they’re about to start crying, choking on their words, basically seeing the seven steps of grief play out in one video.

[Hofstaderman]

I want to see a pic of Aaron Greenberg right now. But yeah Colt Eastwood that Nick dude, Jez Cordon and the rest of them are all in shock and watching their videos has me feeling warm and vindicated. A whole week of this is going to be awesome, we are witnessing a milestone of note in videogame history.

[Abnor_Mal]

I don’t know who this guy is but this video shows a crushed man

https://youtu.be/1P_9xnXJU2...

This is the title to another persons video: “Xbox games on PlayStation: An admission of failure, breaking of promises, dismantling of a community “

[Abnor_Mal]

@SihoPet the really sad part is that you made a brand new account just to repeat the same thing in eight messages.

The ponies looks to have stampeded over your precious feelings.

No one is in need of games over in the PlayStation camp, but MS is in need of some sales for their games since most xbot fanboys like yourself don’t buy games but rather rely on Gamepass.

[Hofstaderman]

@Abnor_Mal
https://m.youtube.com/watch...

[Abnor_Mal]

@SihoPet Okay so what weee you saying for the last ten years about the state of Xbox not having any real games, if you want to say that about Sony. Xbox games studios were MIA for ten years If Sony studios are considered AWOL.

Is anyone really port begging, many people saw the writing on the walls months ago and called it as it’s now playing out. I guess no one was port begging for Spiderman even though Spiderman was technically still on Xbox systems.

What really is sad is seeing Xbox fanboys turn and start attacking each other, it’s like when animals don’t have enough food they start to attack the weak of their kind.

[Abnor_Mal]

@SihoPet I’ll give you credit, you’re a great spin doctor. You made me smile with you one boomerang comment.

[Abnor_Mal]

Well I guess the PlayStation fanboys are the real winners. They get their story driven cinematic games many Xbox fanboys made fun about up until they were to receive some themselves which I guess will now also be on PlayStation. Plus all the so called classic Xbox games of yesteryears and tomorrow years. So cool, I guess.
Now Xbox can see some game sales and finally feed their developers.

Last comment, don’t let this shit get to you too much. Go outside get some air, take a walk. Peace.

[MaximusPrime_]

Hilarious interaction between Abnor_Mal and SihoPet.

Abnor_Mal stands out as a clear winner of this pointless arguement.

[darthv72]

Sadly... all of SihoPet's comments are hidden. I'd kind of liked to have seen this back and fourth you had going. In any case... I know how you feel towards XB and its likely not going to make much difference if their games came to PS. I have said to you many times that you just need to put aside any differences you have with the company (MS) and just play the system and its games. Maybe after this you will at least give the games a chance since you still hold a grudge against the system.

[Abnor_Mal]

Hey what’s good Darth all SihoPet kept saying was that PlayStation fanboys are port begging and PlayStation has no games. I basically repeated what he said for my rebuttals.

It wasn’t serious at all on my end, he just kept responding as soon as I posted so it was a quick back and forth.

Yes my stance on MS over the years has been harsh with me saying they’re very monopolistic, but we recently seen more people sharing that same sentiment.

I never really had a problem with their system or games, I liked the first three Gears of War, didn’t play past that as my friend converted over to PlayStation with PS4. Halo I only played a bit of the multiplayer once for the first game, but never the campaign. I like the idea of Froza Horizon and wish Sony had something similar, but they were idiots and closed Evolution Studios.

I didn’t even have a problem with Gamepass and said that if PlayStation got an equivalent that many naysayers would welcome it.

For this gen I’m not even thinking about flat games and my energy is more towards VR gaming on PSVR2 and Quest2. I’ve even said as much well before this generation even started. I want to control my backlog and not start a new on on PS5, along with the ones from PS3&4. Soon only going to be buying games I really really am interested in and will play right away, anything else will have to wait for a deep sale or land on PS Plus.

[ZwVw]

The Day MS announces going Multiplat, is going to be a very sad day for N4G.

Whose going to be the new scapegoat for posting negative news and articles on for the diehard Sony fans to relish in hate?

[LightBringer]

No one is to blame but microsoft themselves and Phil he had no idea what the he ll he was doing, he lacked confidence in every way it showed with game pass and his current 3rd party buy outs. Apparently natyla was not too worried either way it was not gonna be a full loss for them in the end. Now they can actual start making profit by leaving the gaming hardware business behind, put full effort into their studios.Xbox has been irrelevant ever since the matrick days (one x) its game over. Accept it and move on with on your life.

[S2Killinit]

MS lies, lies, and then lies.

[talocaca]

It makes total sense for Microsoft to go multiplatform....however, it is extremely unlikely that Sony or Nintendo will allow GamePass on their platforms (why would they?)

After the fortune that Microsoft has spent buying studios it will be interesting to see if games like Call of Duty are actually "free" on GamePass day one.

I personally don't think that makes sense financially but it's not like Microsoft needs the money. I guess we will see next week 🤷‍♂️

[GhostScholar]

Probably that after all
The years they made Xbox fans wait for exclusives, they’re gonna just give them to the competitors now that they finally have stuff to be excited about. It’s capitalism love it or hate it.

[Ninver]

As I've stated many times since the acquisitions. Alot of their studios will face the RARE effect sooner or later. MS is a disease.

[MaximusPrime_]

If Microsoft decides to follow Sega's footstep, that will be the correct move. Discontinue making hardware and focus on software.

[DazaMc]

Unlikely that they would hold a conference to tell everyone they are staying Xbox only.

[northpaws]

At the end of the day, it is a freaking business, they want to make more money, not defeat Sony. Going third parties would also them to sell games to every PS owners, which is at least 150-200 millions machine out there combined. They are killing their franchise one by one by only releasing it on Xbox, which is also Day 1 on Gamepass, meaning they made Xbox gamers stop wanting to buy games.

[zaanan]

Actually, they got into the console business to defeat Sony:

https://www.ign.com/article...

[StormSnooper]

They wanted to monopolize from the get go.

[Barlos]

Adorable!

[Hofstaderman]

Yours' Digitally

[Bronbron92]

I hope Xbox keeps stick with consoles honestly, why build up this generation with “the most powerful console” and now be like welp we tried and stick with just a service which is a good deal don’t get me wrong but MC just talked to much and didn’t back it up with games to have people wanting to get their consoles but until this man spills the beans we’ll never know what’s the next big move

[MaximusPrime_]

Imagine Xbox games on PS5 with Duelsense haptic feedback. Makes those Xbox games a lot better on PS5.

[derek]

Dude never shuts up, always talking about the future of the business blah blah blah, until recently when Microsoft put a muzzle on him and will be feeding him his lines going forward. "When I became head of xbox I said the dream was to play everywhere on any platform, putting our games on playstation and Nintendo is a fulfillment of that dream".

[Exvalos]

Xbox guys take a deep breathe it will be okay.

[Hofstaderman]

For a whole week?

[ocelot07]

I still taking everything with a grain of salt. What ever this business announcement is weather it's some Xbox 1st party games going to playstation or all future titles. I still believe there is going to be a Xbox console or streaming device or even a Xbox pc. They will push gamepass still. I did read a rumour last night that cod may not release on gamepass now and also that they maybe stopping day one releases on gamepass. I can't see that happening as that was the main selling point. Otherwise it just becomes like playstation extra.

[ocelot07]

But I think the majority can all agree on one thing. If they do end up releasing games on ps5 and switch. Please keep Redfall where it is please.

[StormSnooper]

I really doubt that they are going multiplat.

[metalhead]

Im extra happy I stuck with the PS5/gaming PC combo over getting a series X now.

[MrSec84]

I doubt they'll stop making hardware, there's money to be made there and it's still important to keep the XBox name going, along with product placement in physical stores and on Amazon.
I suspect we'll see Xbox Consoles, a Handheld and even a standalone VR/AR device, that can function as a PCs, with Windows included too, but also an Xbox gaming App.

I think ZeniMax stuff comes first, then we'll have timed exclusivity of major new releases coming to XBox first, but 3, 6 or 12 months later those games will release on PlayStation and Nintendo devices.
It's doubtful that Sony and Nintendo would allow a gamepass app on their systems, but affordable copies of Microsoft Studios games will release individually on PS5 and Switch and future systems.

I think Microsoft will try to go the Apple Route and have regular hardware releases to maintain a competitive edge for hardware, perhaps major new stuff like Gears 6, Forza Horizon 6, the next Halo, etc will take their time to come to other systems, so that Microsoft keeps some interest in the Xbox hardware.
I doubt we'll see day and date launches with Xbox Hardware, PC and rival consoles.

Phil Spencer and the rest of the higher ups at XBox and Microsoft want that money from the competition, but they still have to have a way to stand out.
Perhaps having hardware, along with software releases will keep that happening, but there's no reason to think there won't be a measure of exclusivity within the XBox Platform and certainly no reason to think that XBox will "Die" because Microsoft has mandated that their games should come to PlayStation and Nintendo.

Also bare in mind that making people wait for XBox games to release on PlayStation and Nintendo systems means they can stagger launches and free up resources to port games over, while also making it so that the Xbox ecosystem gets as many users as possible, which is an important metric too them.
They want as many sales and as much engagement as possible, to be able to appease shareholders.
This could also sell people on Gamepass who haven't been able to try out the XBox Games if they only own a PlayStation or Nintendo device.

Don't be shocked if we also see Xbox Controllers released for PlayStation and Nintendo, as this will be a bit of carrot to entice people to those platforms or to make it so that existing Xbox gamers can still have that device if they move to PlayStation or Nintendo over time.

[repsahj]

I still remember how obscure brags about how many exclusives MS has against Sony. It seems that it may disappear after this conference.

[DrDoomer]

More corporate takeovers and "good enough for gamepass" schlock! Cant wait!

[CrimsonWing69]

This is such a mess.

[VincentVanBro]

Can’t wait to offload my Xbox and play everything on my PS5

[DaniMacYo]

Can’t beat em join em. Come on Xbox bring all your titles to PlayStation. Do it. Execute Order 66. Bwoahaha 😈

[Kyizen]

If Xbox made 9/10 or 10/10 games and they were timed exclusives for 6 to 12 months people would buys Xbox consoles and gamepass subs. The hype and quality most gamers wouldn't want to wait that long, meanwhile Xbox get ls the extra money when it does go on other systems down the road. Just smart business but it won't work with games like Redfall...just sayin

[StormSnooper]

That would have required years of investment in know-how and development of games which they decided not to do. (Sort of like how they decided to not invest in VR). MS thought they could do without the entertainment part of being a console manufacturer. It backfired when big games by competition led to massive good will that grew the gap in sales passed sustainable levels for Xbox. Then came the emergency acquisition of the industry to try and salvage the damage, but it appears they may have dug themselves even deeper by footing that bill.

[DivineHand125]

Xbox going Multiplatform is not only disappointing for the Xbox console fans but it is also bad for PlayStation.

If Xbox goes multiplatform then you can all but guarantee Sony will sell their games for $100 come next gen like the rumors said and we may also see the return of a $600 to $1000 console because console gamers will have no choice.

[neomahi]

If rumors are true, this is good for Xbox. Sucks for loyal Xbox fans, depending on how you look at it, but once you swallow your pride, it grows on you. That's all it is, it's pride. PlayStation has always been great! They love innovative hardware and they have really talented studios that know what they're doing as they're run by gamers and PlayStation is hands off, unless, they're sending in an executive that is a gamer has been and devs love the feedback. In the gaming community, Scott Rodhe isn't well known, he hides in the shadows, but developers love and compliment him constantly. Having Xbox games on PlayStation and having a single piece of hardware keeps or easy. Xbox and PlayStation was practically the same shooting for the same goals, Xbox wanted to be PlayStation, aspired to have the same strong first-party talent. Now, we only have to buy one console and a Nintendo handheld now.

I lived through the death of Sega years. I know how it feels but this isn't like what happened with Sega. SEGA was acquired by a nobody company that ruined it. Xbox retains all their assets, and that's good. Watching Sonic suddenly appear on the GameCube was horrible! Everyone else just wanted to see SEGA defeated and applauded Sonic on Nintendo, which to this day still doesn't belong on Nintendo, they were bitter rivals but, looking back, the Genesis days were amazing! SEGA had a great team and while Sega continued to have stellar games on the Saturn, the US didn't see a lot of those, Sega fans suffered horribly because Mom and dad just couldn't get along. SEGA of Japan and Sega of America just couldn't get along and it was killing them. The Dreamcast started to get that back but it was too late. Looking back on it, you can see SEGA was doing a mountain of things wrong. But we still have Sonic on Nintendo that just doesn't feel right.

Again, Xbox isn't going to have to endure this it'll be okay. Xbox game Studios will benefit from working with PlayStation studios to make games better using current tech and you could see more Game of the Year candidates. We may see paid DLC, microtransactions, and game card packs die off and take us back to the old days where buying a game meant you actually owned the game, not getting your pocket picked and maybe see Games as a Service die out. There's a lot of good with Sony calling the shots and there's still competition. Nintendo are still doing really well and Valve is PC gamings platform. There's still competition.

It doesn't seem like it now, but give it time and you'll see Xbox improve and you'll see with greater light, as I did with Sega, just how bad things are in Xbox right now, this is win-win for them. This is what Phil Spencer wanted anyway, right? To play nicely with Nintendo and PlayStation? Most people don't see this, but Phil Spencer wasn't the Xbox Savior everyone thought, he actually was part of its demise. He was the only one willing to try and clean up the mess they made, but the damage was already done. Shappert and Mattrick made the 360 what it was. Xbox was almost out with the RRoD, Peter Moore could see just how bad it was then, as Phil Spencer sees now that it's either this, or Xbox dies entirely. This is good for Xbox and it's fans will see so just as us SEGA fans had to swallow our pride and see SEGAs internal feuds were hurting it's gamers and fans, again, fortunately for Xbox fans, it's not some unknown company buying them, Microsoft will still own all their investments and studios, now, they'll become part of a greater community to get help from more stable studios

[purple101]

Nah they’ll announce cod on gamepass

You got to try everything before you concede & kick the bucket

There not finished yet

But they are on a slippery slope they cannot climb back out of, just some people can see it and some can’t

[Abear21]

Nah the deal is too new prolly in two years when the merger isn’t new and M$ has all the control. They want Gamepass on everything not everything on Gamepass. My Samsung TV auto installed Gamepass so they are on the right track lol. I deleted it btw. If the game is good I’ll play it on an actual console or PC not a streaming app. Performance and control matters but M$ just wants the subs, so gross.

[Abear21]

Good, all this fanboy speculation is grating. Someone told Phil you either let the Internet control your narrative or you can get out there and tell people what the hell is happening. Big white men in tall offices discuss plans today no doubt.

[Father__Merrin]

Xbox going multiplat digital titles only. Subscription will also be on PlayStation lots of rumours of xbox exclusive going to PS this is not looking good.

Serves all the 12tf v 10tf crowd right

[Hamzilla77]

Xbox going Sega aka multiplatform

Xbox Game Pass is getting rebranded to Microsoft Game Pass for all platforms.... Remember this in a week!

[NextGenCeo]

Xbox going multiplatform. Evey consoles or gaming device possible. Like Sega. Playstation finally put the nail top of the Xbox coffen. End of story guys. Sony wins.

[rlow1]

Such a narrow minded view of it. Plus, we don’t know if they’re actually going to pull out of producing hardware.

[VivaChe]

So is MS/Xbox going to pull a SEGA, and quit the console game to just be a game publisher?

[PassNextquestion]

Xbox is selling a decent amount of consoles there would be no reason for them to stop doing so. Look at Nintendo they released the gamecube which only sold 21.74 million units then the wii u which sold 13.56 million in units. Did Nintendo go third party after everyone screamed and cried about them doing so?

[Plague-Doctor27]

Their acquisitions are too big to support with exclusive games. Activision alone had an operating expense of $6 billion in 2023. Thats nearly twice what GamePass brings in annually (revenue, not profit). Add Bethesda and all of XGS to the mix and they literally can't afford to support all these studios on the revenue they make from Xbox+PC.

I don't think Xbox will stop making hardware, but my guess is ABK and Bethesda games are all staying multiplat while XGS stuff stays exclusive. I don't believe the Gears rumors

[Chevalier]

Difference is that Nintendo turned their failure into 3 consecutive 100+ million consoles/handhelds. How many Xbox systems have sold over 100 million? ZERO

[SonyStyled]

“While working with our partners at PlayStation, we are happy to announce Sunset Overdrive Remastered coming to Xbox, PlayStation, Nintendo, and PC.”

[Abnor_Mal]

But would it be a Gamepass game or would it be only for sale?

Would Sony allow their studio to make a game that would be “free” on Gamepass while their own customers have to pay, or would it be on both subscription services day and date.

[Reaper22_]

Lol... Man you console fanboys are just ignorant. Phil Spencer is not in charge of Microsoft. These companies are always going to do what they want. That's the way its always been.

[DivineHand125]

Activision Blizard King titles added to gamepass.