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Jim Ryan: I would love a world where hundreds of millions enjoy our games

The PlayStation president and CEO sets out his hopes for a more ubiquitous, limitless games industry.

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sourOG964d ago

He wants that kotick bonus.

fr0sty964d ago

PS1: Sells 102.5 million units
PS2: Sells 155 million units
PS3: Sells 87.5 million units
PS4: Sells 116 million units
Jim Ryan: "I wish hundreds of millions of people could enjoy our games."

porkChop964d ago

That's not hundreds of millions of gamers though.

fr0sty964d ago (Edited 964d ago )

Um... if PS5 holds true to those sales numbers, it will be near half a billion consoles sold to hundreds of millions of people by the time this gen is over.

porkChop964d ago

It's only hundreds of millions of people if you assume everyone who bought a PS1 didn't buy a PS2, and PS2 owners didn't buy a PS3, etc.

Hundreds of millions of consoles sold to largely the same group of people does not equal hundreds of millions of gamers. I've bought a PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4, PSP and a PS Vita. I don't count for 6 gamers, I count for one.

sourOG964d ago (Edited 964d ago )

Lmao. Some of those units count as more than one gamer.

sourOG964d ago

How many siblings have shared a game console do you think? I would guess a pretty large number of those units, especially the offline consoles. I’d say at least 30-40% of those units count as more than one gamer. With absolutely no proof at all

porkChop964d ago

"especially the offline consoles. I’d say at least 30-40% of those units count as more than one gamer."

That's not a known quantity though, it's just a guess based on nothing. And it still wouldn't make up "hundreds of millions" of gamers. I don't understand the issue here. It's pretty clear Ryan is talking about growing the market beyond the same ~250 million gamers it's been at for decades.

They want to reach 400 or 500 million gamers, or even more. In order to do that they have to find ways to reach the people they haven't been able to in the past. Again, I don't see the problem here.

Seraphim964d ago

notice how high that PS2 era sales were. Yeah, that's a lot of broken consoles and returns due to lax return policies during that era. You could have a 3 year old machine and bring it for a exchange.

Anyway, like porkchop said, you can't take those numbers at face value. I went through 2-3 PS2s, I had two PS1s, still have my OG 60GB fatboy PS3 that's in desperate need for some new thermal paste but runs fine while with the PS4 I've purchased one at launch along with 2 Pros. Not to mention all the other gamers who bought at least 2 PS4s in the base then later the Pro. These numbers do not equate to individual gamers nor do they mean all 102.5 million people who bought a PS1 are still gaming. So on and so forth. It's simplistic and unrealistic to look at it that way.

darthv72963d ago

@sour, and some of those units count as the same gamer. I alone have over 30 different PS systems. 32 to be precise.

S2Killinit963d ago

No matter how you cut that is hundreds of millions

fr0sty963d ago

You guys are grasping at straws to try to prove a pointless point...

461 million consoles sold. Even if we remove 2/3 of those due to broken consoles, or the same person buying more than one, we still have well over 150 million consoles sold.... not single digits, not tens, but into the hundreds of millions of consoles sold.

There's hundreds of millions of playstation gamers out there no matter how you cut it.

EvertonFC963d ago

I think you miss the point

GamingSinceForever963d ago

You clearly did not comprehend anything that he said. You are looking at consoles sold when he is in fact talking about the software. Like God of War 2016 sold tens of millions not hundreds of millions copies.

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alb1899964d ago

maybe Ryan is starting to look favorably on what Spencer has been up to. Now MS wants to reach every TV through xcloud as they are doing with cell phones.

sourOG964d ago

Not anytime soon. As long as a Sony console exists there won’t be day one on PC or service. There is supposedly talks with Netflix like Sony might make them a game or give them access to a few. I think that’s as far as it goes. MS has always had the foundation to do great things with windows money. They don’t care if people go to PC even though they sell a console. It’s a different strategy entirely. Sony depends on PlayStation.

badz149964d ago

what game is being played by hundreds of millions of players? I hate it when they try to equate install base as the number of people playing games or buying every game released. there are billions of PCs out there but that doesn't mean "hundreds of millions" of people buying games on them!

all I'm saying to Jim Ryan is not to be too quick to diss console exclusivity just because there are billions of PCs out there! MS has since gone PC with 0 console exclusive and NOTHING from them has been huge sellers like those from Sony and Nintendo despite being available to the install base of billions! you can say Minecraft but MS didn't make that and just like GTAV, it's an exception. not even any CoD or FIFA is selling over 20mil every single year, so what hope does any other game has? stop being delusional and start seeing the reality of things.

PS has been the pillar in gaming for many years, thanks to the CONSOLE gamers, not PC gamers. you treat your fanbase well, you get rewarded and that has been the core of the PS business. stop being alluded by this "hundereds of millions" install base and trying to project them onto the mind of your fanbase. it's disheartening and annoying!

Atom666963d ago

@ Badz

Roblox and Minecraft are the only two I know of that top 100million monthly players. Fortnite and others come close.

They do so because those games are everywhere. Sony doesn't care about your feelings. They care about money.

The money is in going to the consumer, not waiting for them to come to your closed little ecosystem. PC, mobile, and streaming are absolutely a focus of Sony's future. They would be stupid to ignore that.

Juvia963d ago

That is literally the last thing we want.

S2Killinit963d ago (Edited 963d ago )

Seriously, f that. MS is going to be a boon for console gaming. I dont want anyone following them. Not Nintendo, not Sony.

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SimpleSlave964d ago

Just not the old ones. Nobody want to play those. 👍

Levii_92964d ago

Jim is a moron who has no idea what he's doing.

SurgicalMenace964d ago

Says the person in the comments....
What amazes me is everyone speaking from a point of personal preference, only, as though that speaks for everyone.
Can you see the numbers that he can?
Can he see the numbers you can't?

Just because there are a few people wanting to revisit old games doesn't mean there's a majority that shares in their sentiment. Jim is about profit and that is great for Sony.

Atticus_finch964d ago

Okay quote him exactly. I'll wait.

SimpleSlave964d ago

In an interview with Time, Ryan discussed seeing versions of Gran Turismo running side-by-side on PlayStation 4, PS3, PS2 and PSOne. “The PS1 and the PS2 games, they looked ancient, like why would anybody play this?” he said at the time.

"Kept you waiting, huh?"

Atticus_finch964d ago

Fair enough that is a stupid remark to make.

SimpleSlave963d ago

No worries. You wouldn't think that the CEO of Playstation would say such a moronic thing. But there it is. The guy is something alright.

Which in turn, might explain why they didn't care about the Playstation Classic.

giveyerheadawobble963d ago

Or VR. Because in his little mind, there still aren't enough of people in the world yet that have caught on to it, so it makes less dolla. The idiot didn't even know the company was working on PSVR's successor so soon and had to backtrack.

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darkrider964d ago

Well maybe in another planet where people have all money. In this it's will be very hard.

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z2g964d ago

Of course he would. You could replace his name with any ceo or president and replace games with any product and the statement holds true. What corporate leader wouldn’t want their product in the hands of as many people as possible?

giveyerheadawobble963d ago

And you think it's because he wants it "for the players" enjoyment? LOL

All he sees and hears is "Mooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooo!"

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Neil Druckmann clarifies true intent of new Naughty Dog game comments

Following a recent interview with Sony, Naughty Dog head Neil Druckmann claims the original intent was “unfortunately lost” in the process.

just_looken3d ago

He can take dog shit put it in a oven with seasoning then call it waistland cookies the sony fans will pay $40 a cookie give them a medal of cooking.

No mater what trash this sobs puts out/talks about it will sell.

The true fact in the 8 years sense uncharted 4 his first time in the main seat to a point all this "amazing" team did was get 2 dudes to fuck in a van then destroy a franchise they never created.

But being a port studio they are decent at they should keep in there lane at being just that a glorified port studio.

fr0sty3d ago

Salty Bots... gotta love it.

just_looken3d ago

@frosty

Over what? naught dog under his command is a glorified port team tlou2 was mostly tlou 1 asset's with the same game play loop but forced a trans down your throat.

I would gladly help pay for this blight and his team to get removed from gaming in general.

fr0sty3d ago

Seeing a LGBT person exist in a work of fiction isn't "forcing them down your throat". Nobody is forcing you to play it. Nobody is forcing you to agree with it. If you think that just seeing a LGBT person exist is "force", it sounds like they make you very uncomfortable, and maybe you need to be doing some serious reflecting on exactly why... looks to me like you're suppressing something with all that fear.

just_looken3d ago

@fro

When i think of the last of us i think of a group of survivors crossing the apocalypse wasteland with a growing bond between 2 people that end up with Joel making ellie his new daughter.

Then you fire up the 2nd one bang joel is dead oh that comic series? bang dead

Oh you want to continue all that we grew in the first one? na f that toss it in the trash

Now here is a trans woman so strong superboy would blush go out there kill all what made tlou1 then halfway get a forced sex scene that you can not skip between 2 dudes.

The gameplay? just like the first game the combat/backpack system crafting sytem? 0 changes/improvements.

I could go on but lets face it they copy pasted that tlou 1 assets bin a shit ton of times.

There is nothing on the box or the ads or anything before the game that said you would going to spend most of the game controlling a new trans character that has no ties to anything of the first game the only existence was to kill what the first game made.

Oh but hey there is a mp mode coming out before 2022 wait what is that? oh we made it its own game then cancelled it now go but the game again as we port it a few times.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

mkis0073d ago (Edited 3d ago )

What has Straley or Henig released since they left ND? Not a thing! stop scapegoating! Which of them is credited with co-writing a majorly successful show?

just_looken3d ago

@mkis007

You bring up Bruce Straley really? someone that gave us 4 generations of amazing games and was there in the creation of 4 legendary franchises but was tossed in the trash for the pos niel druckmann not 7? years ago

So yeah in those 7? years you right all he has done is get 2 awards one is a game award for a puzzle game he made oh boy right like for fuck sake's all niel has done is one game that was a overhyped fan boy orgasm underneath all that ps jizz was just a typical 5/10 game.

Then you drag Amy Hennig that poor woman was also kicked out then became this century's Brendan Fraser with her sexual misconduct information coming out.

We all know how horrible people are treated behind the scenes she might have been sexual attacked groped or something.

So yeah all she did after was battlefield hardline forspoken now that new marvel 1945 game but hey Brendan Fraser was a great actor till he also said he was sexually attacked just now he is allowed back in no doubt she also had to take a leave of absence out and or was forced out on ice.

Man there are way to many out there that look at niel at the new gaming jesus when all he had done is some work on uncharted 4 then tlou2

Oh also the tvhshow? for real all they did was use stuff from the 2013 game its like saying GOT was a 10/10 but never watching past season 3

-Foxtrot2d ago

@mkis007

That's highly unfair to them both

Amy Hennig got messed around working on projects that got cancelled by the publishers (EA) and then ended up on a awful game (Forspoken) where you had 4 other writers working on it which is just a recipe for disaster. She is now working on Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra. Not her fault she was pushed out of NaughtyDog, something both Nolan North and Richard McGonagle have both said in interviews.

Bruce Straley left after burn out, the rest of the story we don't know and will never know just like what happened with Amy Hennig. He decided to take a break and wasn't sure if he wanted to come back to gaming however he had an idea he wanted to make so he founded Wildflower Interactive, a smaller studio where they are currently working on a new game.

Tacoboto2d ago

@the obvious stain of a commenter

The trans character wasn't Abby. Try playing Part 2 instead of gatekeeping what you think Part 1 was about and meant.

Maybe try watching the show while you're at it, because you're terribly off with your opinion on that too

MajorLazer2d ago

Naughty Dog is better than all the MS studios put together.

derek2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@just he has been behind 2 of the greatest games ever made. Tlou2 was easily the best non-vr game made last gen. Losers just can't get over Joel's death, mixed with the usual console war nonsense. The fact that you so casually call him a sob shows how deranged some gamers have become about Drunkmann.

derek2d ago

@frosty, for people like Just, including anyone that can be categorized as being a minority in any kind of media is "forcing it down his throat " lol. I to don't care for poor "checking box" inclusion for inclusion sake but that was not the case with tlou2.

fr0sty2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

The pathetic part about it is, you can tell just_looken never even played TLOU, because that was the game where Ellie's sexuality was first brought to light... No "that was forced down our throats" to be said about that.

Only terrified folks in the closet that use their hatred as cover from outing themselves fear LGBT people that much. They exist. They will exist in all aspects of life, including popular media. Get over it.

just_looken2d ago

@all

Once again you drag out something like its a big win

Here is my old channel a clip of me playing TLOU on ps3
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Search my channel for more clips

Proof its my channel? look at this profiles banner that is 7yrs old then look at other vids on that channel like my bf3 clips to see my psn id. But knowing this group that is way to much work.

Also elle being a lesbian is another trump card? one dlc is all we got of that a dlc that took over a year to be tossed out.

Rainbowcookie2d ago

Hey at least we have cookies to eat 😄

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Rangerman12083d ago

Glad he clarified it but i'm still somewhat skeptical. Plus, his comments about how Ai will revolutionize storytelling were still pretty iffy.

anast3d ago

No need to bow down, Stan your ground. The AI comments were gross though.

S2Killinit3d ago

Pretty excited as I read these. I just cant wait to see what ND is up to.

Export3d ago

put a chick in it and make her gay !

shadowknight2033d ago

Next they need a diverse couple, and perhaps some climate activists

StormSnooper2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I would love that if only to piss off all the lunatics. Lol

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Naughty Dog Boss Neil Druckmann Says AI Will 'Revolutionize' Development

Druckmann claims the tech could 'push the boundaries of storytelling in games.'

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Jin_Sakai5d ago

I’m more interested in what else he said.

“Neil Druckmann says new Naughty Dog title could ‘redefine mainstream perceptions of gaming’

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H95d ago

It will be something like "we erased gameplay all together it's just a movie now"

purple1015d ago

every time naughty dog make a game, you play it and get the feeling "this is not possible'

from the boulder running towards you in crash, on ps1,
to the massive open world of jak and daxter, on ps2,
to the QuickTime events sequences of uncharted on ps3/4

and now we will see what they do with ps5,

H95d ago

Press X for doubt at "PS5"

-Foxtrot4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Arrogant asshole who sniffs his own farts bigs up next game…sounds like typical PR to me

You know what I find interesting? Almost every site reporting this as the main title where the REAL interesting bit of the interview is Neil praising AI and saying it will be used to help push story, characters, dialogue and more.

It’s super shitty to big up AI especially when it comes to story telling and other creative elements.

senorfartcushion4d ago

Just because someone says this type of stuff, it doesn't mean that it's guaranteed to be good news.

You can say this about microtransactions. MXTs revolutionised the gaming industry.

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Levii_924d ago

Geez how full of themselves are these guys.

Einhander19724d ago

He also said it has "ethical issues we need to address" but of course that doesn't get the clicks.

CrimsonWing694d ago

I’m all for it. Cuts the time to make a game. Look, Hellblade 2 took 5 years to make, if AI can do that in half the time, as a consumer, I support it.

Chard4d ago

Things will get far sloppier brother

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The Witcher 3 REDkit Q&A - CDPR & Yigsoft Confirm Steam Workshop Support; Further Changes Planned

CD Projekt RED and Yigsoft have launched The Witcher 3 REDkit on PC. We interviewed both studios to discuss the release of these mod tools.

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