Digital Foundry - Dirt 5: PS5 vs Xbox Series X/ Series S Comparison + Performance

Dirt 5 is unique in that it's the ONLY arcade racing title available for next-gen consoles at launch - think of it as a combination of MotorStorm, DriveClub, Dirt and OnRush - it's good stuff! However, there are a number of issues that need addressing, especially on Xbox. All three modes are tested in this head-to-head, covered off on three consoles. Let's get going!

[elazz]

PS5 version performance better overall. In 120fps the PS5 looks better and reaches average higher fps. With an upcoming firmware update VRR will also be available on PS5 making this practically a flawless experience.

Xbox Series X version comes in close second. Series S shouldn't have come with a visual mode. resolution can drop to 600p.

[RazzerRedux]

Leadbetter questioning Microsoft's marketing of Series S as a 1440p console is interesting.

[darthv72]

It can in some and cant in others but it also can hit 2160p which is surprising as well.

All I care about after watching this is for Motorstorm to make a triumphant return..... some day, maybe, hopefully

[The Wood]

Darth I would love motorstorm to be revived

[FATAL1TY]

Wow massive difference

https://i.ibb.co/grR0P1c/ps...
https://i.ibb.co/jTctPkr/PS...

[bouzebbal]

Darth
What's your take on xsx not performing well and not leading the comparisons we've seen so far? Want it supposed to lead hands down technically?

[FlyingFoxy]

Considering you'll need a high end PC for decent FPS in titles like Cyberpunk @ 1440p it doesn't really take a rocket scientist to know that Series S isn't really a 1440p console, in some less demanding games, sure.

[dumahim]

I always questioned that. It seemed odd going for half the number of pixels with about a 3rd of the power.

[SullysCigar]

^ @FATAL1TY, those pics look like you've tried to recreate a Dirt 5 screenshot in Minecraft..

[bouzebbal]

His opinion about the massive graphical differences xsx and ps5 is so ridiculous.. Devs didn't have time to finalize the game, and at the same time it's not intentional 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
Yet they had time for ps5?? What a broken logic he has..
There is a graphical leap between both versions.. This ain't starting well for xbox

[elazz]

For Series S I meant 120fps shouldn't have been an option. On the other 2 modes is around 1080p

[angelsx]

series s is a mistake. Who wanted this?

[RaidenBlack]

Supposed "game-pass-owners" and "casual-gamers"

[StormSnooper]

The unwitting buyers, like moms. And little children who think they have a next gen console.

[NotoriousWhiz]

I wanted a Series S. Not anymore though. May not even get a Series X if it's going to underperform PS5.

I couldn't care less about 4k. But I do care about frame rate, and if the Series S can't keep up in that regard, then I won't be getting it. The price is nice, but that performance is not.

[crazyCoconuts]

I don't think it'll be around for long

[CaptainHenry916]

Like I said Xbox has a long way to go 😁

PC/PS5 for life

[AngelicIceDiamond]

If you really think it ends with early gen games then you're very short sided.

[CaptainHenry916]

Xbox first party exclusives just can't compete with Sonys. Having a PC makes Xbox irrelevant to me

[AngelicIceDiamond]

We don't know yey. But 9th gen should be interesting it already is.

[gravedigger]

XSS console is a mistake. It was damn obvious since the reveal

Series S version as low as 570p. You can't be that serious

[sagapo]

One mistake you made; in 120fps PS5 looks indeed better, but XSX kept the higher framerates because PS5 uses v-sync instead of VRR, and the fact that XSX looked less detailed. But I agree that when PS5 will support VRR, it will probably beat XSX in 120fps mode.

[RazzerRedux]

Took notes:

PS5 SDR is a little dark. Dev looking into it.

Image quality Mode
Focusing overall world detail
Dynamic resolution
Series S - tops out 1440p but scales down to 1080p most of the time
PS5 slightly better texture filtering
PS5 average resolution is higher
Both PS5 and XSX deliver 60fps. Slight advantage to PS5
Series S lower frame rate

Resolution mode
Highest pixel count- Dynamic
Series S 1080p range.
"Series S 1440p target is somewhat optimistic"
"MS marketing needs to be clearer"
Series S - details cut back
All three consoles mostly consistent 60fps

Frame Rate Mode
120hz mode
XSX and PS5 "seems to be 900p to 1440p"
Series S - as low as 600p range
PS5 detail level is significantly higher than XSX
Probably a bug on XSX
Runs better on XSX on some tracks due to lower detail
VRR makes a difference and eliminates tearing for XSX

[RazzerRedux]

Apparently there is a very specific reason why PS5 has much higher detail than XSX in frame rate mode:

https://i.imgur.com/JHRFCsd...

[SullysCigar]

Lmao 🤣

[Mr_Luke]

hahahaha that's brilliant :D

[purple101]

Quality.

[Stanjara]

That was amazing! Lol!

[The Wood]

Cold blooded

[russo121]

Craig's is MS new mascot.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

I could see it as fanboy drivel but I se it as more light hearted. What do you have to say about the new Forza running in engine at last summers Ms showcase?

[RazzerRedux]

Yeah.....all in fun. Forza looked great. Codemasters isn't in Turn 10's league. Not even close.

[gamer7804]

Now if they can just make dirt games fun. I really want to like them as I like racing games but the controls and gameplay are terrible.

[IRetrouk]

As a massive racing fan and gamer, I dissagree completely, the sim versions are great and so are the more arcade focused ones like this, was in two minds with the choppy footage we had seen, but it looks well on the ps5 so I might be getting it earlier than planned🤷‍♂️

[SullysCigar]

Dirt Rally is amazing in VR and controls beautifully.

[gamer7804]

IRetrouk that’s fine many people enjoy them it’s just not my friends and I’s racing group cup of tea

[IRetrouk]

Thats cool, ur entitled to your opinion dude👌

[gerbintosh]

All them TFlops and still a worse experience. Wow

[TheTony316]

And another one. Looks like the PS5, while weaker is actually the better designed console with less bottlenecks. And don't forget the Dual Sense. Oh boy, can't even imagine the meltdown if Cyberpunk turns out to be superior on PS5, lol.

[shabz666]

lol that would definitely be someting, Microsofts line about sereis x being the most powerful console unfortunately is not panning out. Dirt 5 specifically seems to be a bug bringing xbox one texture quality to series x with high framerates possibly due to the universal sdk devs are using according to df. And the devs acknowledge the issue. Thats a massive problem for development if that can even happen in the first place.

[buffig]

It may be the most powerful, but it's not the most effective. This was always the danger of making your entire narrative about tflops. Sony never talked power, but they did talk speed. And speed is what we're getting.

[SullysCigar]

Even the DualSense on its own is a big differentiator. Reviewers have been loving it, yet the devs have said they're not satisfied they've got the best from the controller, so are reworking it and rolling out a patch!

Great to see the 3rd party devs so absorbed by the possibilites DualSense offers the gamer!

[TheTony316]

Yeah, got my PS5 today (EU) and played Astro Bot. By far the best controller i've ever had.

[angh]

Obviously ps5 is not weaker here. Comparing only tflops is simply stupid, is like comparing engine capacity - difference in capacity do not decide which is faster.

[purple101]

That's a real good comparison actually.

An old american v8 4.0litre will get say 350-500 horse power

But a Ferrari with a v8 4.0litre can get 500 -700 horsepower

This comparison seems totally fair.....untill you realise the ferarri is half the weight.

It's these type of things make you realise there's more going on under the curtain. Things that arn't always immediately visiable

[purple101]

What's funny is the Xbot's are going to say...wait till it's optimised -

but I'm going to say wait till Sony makes use of their fast SSD

.. it's going to be nail in the coffin once it's actually used for games -and not just to improve loading times by a couple of seconds.

[Bronbron92]

If cyber punk looks better on ps5 Microsoft will really look bad and I think if that were the outcome they’ll try to win Bethesda over to get all games exclusives to them to cover their ass lol

[shabz666]

It seems like having a vrr tv for series x seems to solve the screen tearing, i'm glad i picked up the LGCX. anyone looking into new 4k tvs i would recommend going for that.

[Btf_1991]

Most of us are not sitting on that kind of money

[GOULDYBOBS]

Then why are you worried about 120 fps?

[Btf_1991]

@GOULDYBOBS
I'm not worried about about 120fps. What led you to think I am?

[Rainbowcookie]

Also burn in deters me from borrowing that kind of money too🤣

[Kornholic]

Burn-in is an old meme. The risk of getting a burn-in on a modern OLED TV while viewing a variety of content is almost non-existent. Worrying about that is silly and irrational.

[shabz666]

@ rainbowcookie.

I am also constantly tensed about burn in, but honestly the picture quality and black levels on the tv is so good, lol. There are options like a pixel refresher and a static logo luminescence adjuster that can help with burn in prevention. So far so good though.

[DaGR8JIBRALTAR]

You can get a 65 inch for 1700 now, that a great price.

[yeahokwhatever]

the game got patched and im not seeing tearing anymore on the PS5.

[talocaca]

Second title to run better on PS5 🤷‍♂️

Not to mention Playstation exclusive games doing really well (Miles Morales, Astro, Demons Souls and Sackboy).

What the hell is going on with Microsoft?

[TheTony316]

Actually, pretty much all multiplats so far run better on PS5.

[Shane Kim]

All of the multiplats.

[throne]

and they say sony is using ps4 tools for the ps5 api,yet we see games like miles and demon souls looking amazing

[Tacoboto]

The SDK for the PS5 is extremely similar to the PS4 SDK, that's what is meant by that.

And Sony's dev framework is clearly paying off.

Whatever is going on with Xbox, be it SDK immaturity, bugs in Smart Delivery, the devs themselves... They've gone all out saying they're the most powerful and it's just not showing. There is something genuinely wrong with XSX. Based on the power, it's not the system, but Microsoft's continued mediocrity in software. If you have a crappy SDK, even the best developers can't work around that.

[Baza]

PS5 looking strong early. Looking forward to more comparisons.

[Good-Smurf]

Both John and Richard goes from nervous laughing to deep sighs and confuse.
Series S turned into Switch tried to run DIRT 5 at 120 fps the lowest pixel is at 576p.
Series X lost so much graphical detail car headlight assembly looks like screws and more DIRT visible since the foliage were reduced.

[badz149]

I think it's like they were getting a warning from MS marketing team over their comparisons. they were too quick to come to the defense of the SX in this video and tried too hard to focus on the slight hiccup on the PS5 during the opening race at 120fps which was ironed out a couple of corners later and even they said 90% of the time it's locked 120fps while the remaining 10% having this "issue" but even then I think it's an over-exaggeration on their part because they only ever showed that opening race to be having that issue and that was it. and then they were praising the VRR like the 2nd coming which is annoying because I don't know if they realize it or not, that they are saying basically the SX version is only comparable to the PS5 version in terms of performance thanks of VRR. image quality is worse, tearing is worse and more noticeable and frame drops are more frequent on the SX compared to the PS5 which is the state of the game currently and it's like it's killing them admitting the obvious.

I don't remember them pulling punches at downplaying the Pro while all praising the xboneX just a couple of short months ago but why make excuses for the underperforming platform now?? why the bias? Their integrity is again on the line here and they blew it! it is what it is and they are reluctant to say it!

[Sunny_D]

I read because they were getting attacked by fanboys especially on Twitter and John knew with another comparison, Xbox fanboys were going to be attacking him. He’s walking on eggshells because the fanboys take a mental toll on him. He’s a nice guy but some people are crazy when it comes to consoles.

[purple101]

It was a pure shambles.for xbox. Not one area where is sustained a better performance in the way ps5 did.

There was one bit of gravel...where.the difference was clear. One looked.next gen..one didn't.

[crazyCoconuts]

It's the review they couldn't postpone any longer. I agree with the sense of nervousness, lol. I found it pretty funny. Next step, watch dogs, no man's sky...

[purple101]

Some of those screws they took out the detail ended up in people's pre-order box'zes

[siccstepsccs]

I knew there was a reason why Microsoft stop marketing xbox series X as "the most powerful console" 🤔

[Father__Merrin]

It's marketed as world's most powerful xbox.

[NEXUS-6]

And it has to stop - because as of now, that's a massive lie.

Some numbers on paper may say so, bit the reality is far different.

[BrettAwesome]

Yes. Because they just changed it 😂

[purple101]

I don't know why Sony don't just market there's as "the world's fastest console" to compete.

Not that they need to

[WillyC009]

Uh oh......I’m sure we will get complete silence from obscure observer & chief whatever. They sure have been quiet on here the last while. They’re probably in full meltdown mode right now lol.

[StoneyYoshi]

I haven't seen Obscure on here in a while. He's usually the first to post Lol

[outsider1624]

He will..once a game runs better on Series X.

[potatoseal]

"It has begun" /s

[russo121]

They are in silence because they bought PS5 instead of xsx 8)

[Atticus_finch]

Xboys are no where to be found. Weird considering they were looking forward to this comparison.

[Chevalier]

Weird. Pretty sure someone said "It has begun" then disappeared.

[waverider]

Please stop with the Geometry engine. No studio is using that. Its too early. Thats what make it even more amazing! Maybe in a year games will start to use GE and then will allow the PS5 to do more with less!!!

[Whitey2k]

Thats right with the GE engine it can use smaller triangles to make use of all the CU's without stressing the Vram and GPU that much and with the speed from the ssd comes into play with oodle texture. We could possibly see higher assets averaging around the same resolution compared to series x further down the line

[Atticus_finch]

Series x of unfortunate events.
Wow... xboys almost convinced me to buy an xsx for the best 3rd party support.
Hahaha jk. I don't eat PR.
I could see this coming a mile away since road to PS5.
Xbox just lost its most cringe battle cry.
Maybe next gen.

[Eonjay]

Wait till E3!

[NEXUS-6]

I'm excited for what we haven't shown.

[blackblades]

I wonder what xdealer crew is thinking right now. Considering they said they were buying the Xsx for the best 3rd party games on the most powerful system with native 4k/60fps

[purple101]

Oh wow .that was slick.

[GOULDYBOBS]

You sound like a bad gimp

[Atticus_finch]

What's the matter?
Did big bad Sony hurt you feelings again.
Don't worry your craig in shining armor should be ready in a year or 2.

[The_Sage]

I don't often respond to or ask questions about posts here, but what are you trying to say here? A bad gimp? A derogatory term for a handicapped person is gimp. Gimp was also used in Pulp Fiction referring to the leather clad person who obviously had some sort of mental deficiency.

[StormSnooper]

Again. At this point is there any doubt that the PS5 is where multiplats look best? Not that I ever thought little bit of extra pixelsis a big deal, but this was Xbox fans’ argument all along, and now we see that in reality the PS5 is where it’s at.

[Ghostbob]

Don't worry guys it just the tools!😂😂
But in all seriousness, if it just tools then both consoles will improve not just Xbox.

[StoneyYoshi]

Yes! Thank you! Someone gets it! Everyone is acting like Sony won't improve their tools over the years too. 😂

If they are ahead now, who knows if MS tools will catch up.

[NEXUS-6]

They can't and they won't. Sony will be on their 3rd or 4th release cycle before ms gets a single 1st party game out the door. Games take 3 - 4 yrs to make, by the time developers get a handle on xsx - PS6 will be around the corner.

These results have to be embarrassing for ms haha

[Ninver]

I have a feeling MS will be playing catch up for a while yet.

[BattleCat]

As a sony fan, iam just happy that the ps5 doesnt underperform in multiplats! Sony didnt lia and delivered a great console.
I think the console wars should stop now. Both consoles are good and no one is a beast. I think ms overpraised their console, because they had no real new games to talk about.

[NEXUS-6]

It was never going to mate, Sony understands what 3rd party devs want.

A large install base to sell too, and an easy environment to develop in.

Both areas Sony excels in.

[purple101]

After the digital foundry videos...thats 3in a row now...confirm ps5 is the king console.

The gravel at one point on dirt 5 was Soo much higher res they thought there was some sort of mistake -because it wasn't even close.

Xbox is dead in the water.

[RickRoland]

Oh my this is worse than Valhalla for Xbox

[NEXUS-6]

Yep - it wasn't long after the xbox one launch we started hearing about the power of the cloud.

I wonder what's going to be the magic solution this time.

[purple101]

I don't know.. but should we "wait till e3"

For the fifth year in a row?

[Charal]

The tools dude, they are not ready /s

[badz149]

according to DF, it's a BUG! with the SX having the HDMI 2.1 throughput of 40Gbps while the PS5 limited to 36Gbps bla bla bla...SX should be superior in every single way!

[SlothLordPootus]

@badz149 the hdmi bandwidth I think only concerns 4:4:4 vs 4:2:2. Pretty much every analysis done shows that 4:4:4 is a non-issue with video games, and is only of any concern for reading large amounts of text. From what I have seen it was a bigger deal in the past, as before hdmi 2.1 TVs couldn't do HDR and 4:4:4, now that's not an issue.

I think the 4:4:4 support could come to ps5 via a software update, but maybe not. That's a bit over my head.

[MrBelasco]

So I guess that settles it, the PS5 is more capable!

[moriarty1889]

ps5 hardware is better optimized as well as their dev kits.

[Thundercat77]

Mark Cerny told us.

[moriarty1889]

it’s ps4 vs original xbox one one all over again it seems. minus the cloud and dx12 of course.

[Father__Merrin]

Instead of cloud and dx12 its now.... Machine ai learning, toolset maturity, dx12 super and cloud compute TTF

[MrBelasco]

I was being sarcastic, it’s a few multiplat launch games, nothing to crow about.

[FlyingFoxy]

Managed to snag a PS5 on Amazon UK on the 19th and got it delivered yesterday as a backup order to one from Very. Surprised as it seems they sold out really fast.

I'm mostly a PC gamer but interested in some of the exclusives for the PS5 so it will be really good for that. I won't be using it for first person shooters tho as i love kb & mouse way too much for that.

[Pricey]

If you like COD it has mouse and keyboard support on PS5.

[Benficaman]

maybe the "Monster" is a bit shy. hahahahaha

[Atticus_finch]

The monster is Craig.

[Benficaman]

lol

[badz149]

the BEAST!

[Father__Merrin]

Cerney warned the fanboys of not sticking to TeraFLOP to guage performance. N4g Xperts were shouting at the top of their lungs that 12tf better than 10tf

In fact many were actually terrorizing themselves with their own fanboyism than series X would wipe the floor with ps5 at a time when the average poster said the ballpark is the same so games will be similar.

Now it turns out ps5 is better than series X? Now on twitter we hear wait till Machine learning, wait till further dx12 implementation, wait till tool set maturity...

Xbox Series S is the only xbox I can recommend at the moment.

[NEXUS-6]

People can't understand the simple message that was given - Not all tersflops are created equal - it was pushed aside. Mark is a genius, and deserves to listened to - not just heard. Big difference.

Few people out there with their pants down.

[Chevalier]

The funny thing is they don't think PS5 tools won't mature as well? 😆

[Rainbowcookie]

Also if the devs only got devkits 6 months ago maybe the AAA first party games will arrive even later, by that time oodle kraken will already be used better and Sony will come out swinging. Once a company gets a lead it tends to be the end.

[SmokinAces]

Correct Sony has a team housed at Naughty Dog called ICE, "The ICE Team focuses on creating core graphics technologies used by all PlayStation developers. The ICE Team has been involved with the development of the PlayStation®4 since its inception, including hardware design, graphics libraries, performance analysis tools, and developer support (hardware evangelism)." They are unmatched in terms of technical development, and will push PS5 to its absolute limits, we haven't seen anything yet,.

[badz149]

they did change their narrative towards the SS though. they were all in arms aying that the SS with 4TF is actually more powerful than the 6TF One X.

not surprising considering moving the goalpost is their specialty at the MS camp

[pingthing]

Pleased I actually watched this, instead of reading the comments. Judder, judder, judder

[pingthing]

Ironically, the only reason to disagree is because it's true. Judder, judder, judder.

[RazzerRedux]

Uh...actually, the reason to disagree is you've literally said nothing other than "Judder, judder, judder" in two posts. Sorry that you felt your enormous insight on this wasn't appreciated by others, but your posts.....frankly....are just shit.

Congrats on that one upvote from the guy who is really into shit, though.

[pingthing]

Nah quite frankly I'm not here for upvotes, I'm here to remind a certain demographic of fanboys that just because they choose to deflect away from the negatives that are directed at their beloved system, does not mean that they don't exist.
.judder, judder, duplicate frame, judder . Better?

[RazzerRedux]

lol.....so you are deflecting away from the negatives of your beloved system with judder, judder, judder bullshit.

Yeah...got it. Thinks for confirming that your posts are shit.

[pingthing]

@razzerredux funnily enough I haven't mentioned any system or affiliation here, some of you guys have simply filled in the blanks for yourself, and assumed I meant you 🤷‍♂️

[RazzerRedux]

"funnily enough I haven't mentioned any system or affiliation here"

You didn't need to.

"I'll be honest, I'm an Xbox fanboy"
https://n4g.com/news/238640...

[pingthing]

And the difference is that I recognise the negatives and the positives of both system. You only see the negatives of one and the positives of the other..
I am simply the mirror here, the reflection belongs to you.

[The_Sage]

Did you have a stroke there at the end of your comment?.. Do you smell toast? You should call 911.

[masterfox]

so much for MS for their so "powerful" console, they focus so much to be able to run old games, and sell game passes that they forgot to create a well designed next gen console imo, also like I said in one past comment in another article, MS created their own headache with the Xbox series S, not sure what drugs MS was taking when creating this console, this maybe also the reason why Xbox Series X looks downgraded, devs need it to have some kind of parity with the S, still is great to see that they aren't holding back for the PS5 version, I hope this is a trend for all multiplatform games for the PS5 and devs don't hold back for the PS5 versions, MS screw it big time(again) with the S.

[Destiny1080]

so the PS5 has 6x more detail in all modes plus a constantly higher resolution, even in the 120fps mode, it may be due to some bug in the xbox version which may or may not get patched

90% of the tracks in the 120fps mode are a locked 120fps on the PS5 with the x-version being unable to be measured

[Charal]

I don’t understand why they don’t equip with a 120fps capturing device. For a website like DF, it is a nonsense to continue saying they are not able to capture the main part of what the claim to compare.

[Rainbowcookie]

It was just the tools.🤣

[Rude-ro]

They did the exact same thing last gen about capturing

[wiz7191]

The more I read into the comments the more I come to terms ppl on here just ride the bandwagon and don’t even be knowing what they are talking about lol .. I’m neutral I’m planning on getting both but seeesh .. Granted how the Series consoles GDK is basically just getting into developers hands and the PS5 been out for a year and a half , the system isn’t performing above its weight or anything. Then given the development has to be split between 7 machines , they don’t have the resources to fully utilize either console.

[RazzerRedux]

I must have missed where Microsoft put a big asterisk beside all their "most powerful console" marketing that explains their problems with "dev tools".

The same dev who started this dev tool talk said:

"According to DiRT 5 lead designer Mike Moreton, that’s not going to be the case. Speaking in any interview with GamingBolt, when asked about the difference between the GPUs of the two next-gen consoles, Moreton said, “From development and gameplay perspectives, it doesn’t really have an impact. When it comes to tuning, tweaking and optimizations at the end of a game, it might mean slightly less work for one platform.”"

https://gamingbolt.com/ps5-...

And here the same guy flatly says the tools are NOT behind PS5.

https://youtu.be/aXIHdzVC9v...

lol....look at the disappointment on septic's face.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

BEAST!!!!

🤣 😂

[gravedigger]

@Razzer

Check this interview with Dirt 5 dev back in June :

https://news.xbox.com/en-us...

"Q: What is it like developing on Xbox Series X?"

"A: For me, the most important thing in making a videogame is the relationships. Working with Xbox, is a partnership – the team at Xbox is committed to helping us make a great videogame and they’ve shown that to me again and again. That means being open and honest about our experiences; what we’ve loved and perhaps even what we’ve found difficult in development has had meaningful, visible impact on the updates that I get for the tools for Series X. (Shout out to our development partner at Xbox, Richard Hackett! Thanks Rich!)

I’ve never worked on a console launch where, while we’re still months away from release, the tools have been this mature, this stable, this easy to work with."

So, tools aren't the problem. LOL

[RazzerRedux]

@gravedigger

Nice find. Kind of says it all.

[Charal]

One more “insider” giving assumptions out of nowhere.
Give sources please, never heard any dev saying they got Xbox dev tools just a couple of months ago.

I think DF just game the answer: MS development flow needs to include so much platforms from all Xbox consoles to PC.
Maybe SX architecture is to much conservative to achieve it without killing the devs, while on the other side Sony built the best architecture with no constraints for BC an PC.

[The_Sage]

What the hell is this?.. "I come to terms ppl on here just ride the bandwagon and don’t even be knowing what they are talking about lol".

You want to try to berate people for lacking understanding while posting such nonsense. That is not even anything that could be considered an attempt at even the slightest grasp of the English language.

Da ya no whot em gettin at har brub?
Pathetic.

[Emme]

I am really shocked, I was exspecting the XSX to have the "definitive" version of each multiplat, and now look at that :/

[russo121]

Seeing the trend in multiplatform games, MS just turned Sony's job extremely easier.

[Eonjay]

I figured that the 'staggering' power delta would just let it brute force to first place lol.

[PePe_PL]

DF guys are so Xbox friendly, so now they have rough time with 3rd game in a row that perform better on PS5 (after AC Valhalla and CoD Cold War). They literally spent more than 30% of time on explaining how this must be a bug, due to pandemic and other stuff :) Of course it probably is, still they seem to put a lot of effort in doing damage control for MS.

[russo121]

It's understandable, they are friendly with who pay the bills.

[Emme]

Here is a US selection 2020 analogy: why, if it was a "bug", would it happen only to the XSX, not the PS5 ? Granted they had the dev kits longer, but "come on, man". On the other hand, no Valhalla footage I have seen looks flawless. There are pop ins, late texture loading issues all the time.I guess there is really something lacking at Ubisoft's, I figured for cross gen titles, they would optimise for last gen and use next gen just for higher framerates and faster loading. There should be NO pop up, pop in, texture loading issue on PS5 or XSX.

[Thundercat77]

Summary:
- PS5 has a higher framer are overall.
- PS5 has higher resolution overall.
- PS5 has higher texture filtering.
- 120 FPS looks much better on PS5 than Xbox series X.

We have been seeing a tendency now towards third party games performing better on PS5.

What a turn of events.

[Binarycode]

FATAL1TY I have a spanner that would fit those headlights perfectly.

[Btf_1991]

DF is recently sucking xbox's d!ck so hard right now. They're clearly biased.

[Soc5]

Not sure I'm getting the point of the Series S

[Charal]

Brag about the cheapest “next gen” console.

This 600p zoom in the video is horrendous.

[Ashunderfire86]

Yeah that look like an N64 game zooming in smh

[Tetsdah]

Holy shit, the subtle damage control and shock even from DF. This is the worse comparison thus far. Better textures, higher average resolutions, and higher average fps. They think it may be a bug. Some are blaming it on tools. None of this was a possibility months ago. None of it is absolute, just assumptions.

What happened? Honestly I believe Sony designed a better and more efficient system for game development. We are seeing the results of that. Spec sheets be damned, we are seeing direct results. This is the 2nd game marketed by MS, appearing better on Playstation.

I find the tool improvement hilarious, because both system will improve.

[Charal]

I agree they downplay to much some evidences, like clearly better 60fps flat line on PS5.
Same, 120fps comparison is very poor, even with dynamic environment they should have compared the same race on the same track between consoles.

The VRR on Xbox is a none sense, they should stop emphase on this feature. Sure it is a great feature with compatible screen, but frame drop is frame drop and they should stick to comparing framerate outputted by each console.

For the bug assumption on the other side, they may have right. To be fair, they assumed the same for DMC PS5 version which has been patched now, let wait for this one.

[StoneyYoshi]

"For the bug assumption on the other side, they may have right. To be fair, they assumed the same for DMC PS5 version which has been patched now, let wait for this one."

True, but this is more than just a unlocked frame rate issue. This is a very noticeable graphical quality issue going on. So much for smart delivery providing the best version for each system.

[Tetsdah]

I feel what you're saying about bug for DMC V, but it was obvious because it was doing 120 fps in unintended modes, and patched very quickly. But there are a lot of things wrong they are attributing this as a bug for Dirt 5.

I will give the assumption the benefit
Of the doubt. I just find it odd, because the marketing rights is by XsX. So wouldn't that be the lead normally?

[badz149]

@StoneyYoshi

remember muh "Velocity Architecture"?

LOL

[SlothLordPootus]

The emphasis on VRR is a bit ridiculous considering only a small amount of TVs out in the wild support it right now. Frame drops on the majority of TVs will be visible.

Developers need to prioritize frame rate. You have dynamic resolution, use it to your advantage.

The developer has said that they are working on a fix for xbox, and that should, at least I assume, fix the 120fps mode detail, but the other modes still performed better on ps5 which is interesting.

[repsahj]

i think they designed the PS5 as a balanced system, not overpowering one part with another. All parts working together to make better result in games.

[kayoss]

Anyone know if Drive Club will be upgraded when playing on PS5? would love to see how DriveClub will look when updated to the PS5.

[StoneyYoshi]

This is doubtful considering the studio that made the game was shutdown.

But it would be fantastic if it got a 60fps patch at least! The game still looks amazing to today's standards.

[Knushwood Butt]

Rushy tweeted about it recently.

From memory it is unchanged apart from faster loading.

[Bronbron92]

Wow so much for Microsoft’s marketing the most powerful console ever with this 3 comparisons now and the ps5 has been placed above it so literally Xbox has just made you spend 500$ For subscription service which I still feel like game pass is going to screw their own developers over sure millions of people paying for it a month is great but how does that factor to millions buy the game actually

[GOULDYBOBS]

This site is pure fanboy cancer

[Silly gameAr]

I know man. There were so many MS fans trashing PS5, and talking about how weak it will be, and telling everyone to wait for DF comparisons to see the PS5 get whooped.

Those fanboys are really something else, I tell ya.

[blackblades]

Sounds funny, should be a skit.

[GOULDYBOBS]

Both sides are pathetic. I must have sounded the same in primary school arguing over ff7 and zelda

[SullysCigar]

^ @GOULDYBOBS Don't dwell on it, matey, - now you're home for the day and you've had your nap you're less cranky.

[04STIBluByU]

This really reminds me of Iron Man 1, where the scientist tells Jebediah: "its not possible for this to be done", and Jebediah responds: "Tony Stark was able to build this in a cave!!! with a box of Scraps!!!!" and the scientist says, "well I am sorry sir, but I am not Tony Stark." I imagine this is what's happening over at MS, where Tony Stark is Mark Cerny and they are trying to figure out how 10TF is outperforming 12TF. Yeah that would be comedy!

[Darkborn]

So another game that the ps5 edges out "the most bestest powerful amazing console ever produced in the universe and all the multiverses ever" that has no games.

[potatoseal]

AGAIN, Well done Sony. The PS5 is an amazing console. Mark Cerny is the man

[akaFullMetal]

Wow, what is going on in xbox side! Either code masters messed up or Microsoft api isn't very mature at this point.
Either way, this is the 3rd or 4th multiplayer game going to Sony for the better performance. Wondering if this is sort of a ps3 vs 360 scenario, where the lower spec version console with easy development tools is on average out performing the more exotic setup with on paper better performance console. Time will tell.

[Father__Merrin]

Spencer needs to go now go back to xbox only and stop pc ports

[anast]

but game pass...you know, game pass and game pass

[repsahj]

imagine if not "optimized for xsx", maybe it will not be playable.

[andydalum]

The lead guy who worked on dirt even admitted they are learning and didn't take advantage of the new features on the series x but here we go now with the Playstation bots trying to claim their system is gonna be more powerful.

[waverider]

dude googlei it. There a are many interviews from dirt devs talking how great is the xbox X, about the GPU power, optimazation and so on. The last one was even funnier because they coud use velocity archicheture equal or faster then the i/o of the PS5.... This is a cross gen game. Not next gen. Even worse, this is a racing game.... This shouldnt happend. Of course playstation gamers will talk. Since december of last year xbox gamers talk about the Ps5 like the weakstation, RDNA1, No Ray tracing, slowpoke and so on. Over and over and over. Months talking that 3rd party games would be much better on X..... 40% advantage. So many warned that the diference was the smallest ever....

More important the console that was always behind in time was the PS5, but now a console from a software company is behind on tools? DX ultimate? Where did i saw this? Esram, next Dx, the cloud, wait for this and for that.

[Will_b]

Dev director of dirt 5:

“ It’s not the final result :) we already have an update in the works that fixes many of the things in the video as well as addressing a bunch of other stuff. We also have a big post launch support plans, so please stay tuned :)”

https://twitter.com/K8RPY/s...

For me is an optimization problem.

[andydalum]

So features that are new to even PC are automatically going to be better without any learning curve? Got it.

Third party still have to optimize for each console and the series x is the more powerful console like it or not. Now weather the devs optimize for the series x to take advantage and learn how to use it is another story that time will tell. We already have games running 120 FPS which is a big deal on series x that PS5 isn't doing. The fact is sony will win on performance from some games that choose not to optimize for the series x and take advantage of the better hardware. That doesn't mean that the PS5 has better hardware.

[potatoseal]

"The lead guy who worked on dirt even admitted they are learning and didn't take advantage of the new features on the series x"

That is a LIE.

The opposite is true. I've seen the interviews

[Emme]

XSX cant output true black in blu ray playback, maybe thats also an issue for games?

[Doomeduk]

" PS 5 for exclusives and series X for the best version of multiplats"
That train of thought couldn't even see the year out

[Mnms2188]

Hopefully for xbox ,developers start figuring things out . If I was a series x owner I'll be really upset right now. I think long run series x should be okay and games will look and run better. But honestly ps5 is killing it . The controller was such a big win , don't think anyone was expecting that. For those who haven't experienced it , it really is a next gen experience. Not to mention the games . Was never big on souls , but demon souls is so much fun and just looks flawless.

[BlaqMagiq1]

Lemme guess, it was "POOR OPTIMIZATION!" again on the Xbox side? Is that the classic excuse that gets tossed around lately whenever the PS5 is doing better?

[Father__Merrin]

N4g Faithful promised playstation fans that wait till DF showdown. Omg this is the worst ownage I've ever seen in gaming. They will never recover from this now its over.