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Xbox chief says Project Scarlett ‘will not be out of position on power or price’

Microsoft is ‘all-in’ on the next-gen Xbox

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AuraAbjure1656d ago (Edited 1656d ago )

Really looking forward to all incoming creative content thanks to powerful affordable consoles like the PS5, Xbox Scarlett and xCloud.

Gazondaily1656d ago

Ooh them be fighting words. The hardware battle going on in the background must be really interesting.

Which console will be more powerful? Xbox or PS5?

Wasabi1656d ago (Edited 1656d ago )

@Septic

***"Which console will be more powerful?"***

Hello mate, good to see you back.

Personally I think it's telling that Phil Spencer is openly commenting about Scarlett's position in terms of power, also the Project Scarlett website was recently updated to state;

"Thousands of games across four console generations will look and play best on Project Scarlett"

In addition Sony recently recinded on the wording in a job description that originally stated that the PS5 would be "the world's fastest console".

https://www.google.com/amp/...

That wording has now been withdrawn.

Obviously, time has taught us that power does not guarantee success, in fact many of the best selling, most popular consoles throughout history have been the underdogs in terms of power.

Having said this, in answer to your question if I were to give an opinion based on the information available in the public domain, I'd say that Project Scarlett will be the more powerful.

mkis0071656d ago (Edited 1656d ago )

So far most rumors with industry sources put the ps5 a sliver ahead...less than the xbox one to xbox one s of a difference.

All wording has been cleverly laid out by both companies to not be definitive just in case.

My money is on sony having the faster storage solution and slightly faster gpu and ms having a slightly faster cpu.

Wasabi1656d ago

@mkis

***"All wording has been cleverly laid out by both companies to not be definitive just in case"***

I'd argue that the wording on the Project Scarlett website is pretty definitive.

AuraAbjure1656d ago

They'll be very similar in power I bet. 10% difference between the two and I don't know which one will be more powerful but I do know that the Xbox division said they're not shooting for second place in terms of power. So that translates to that they're shooting for a tie or first place when it comes to processing power.

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TK-661656d ago (Edited 1656d ago )

@Fragnum

"Obviously, time has taught us that power does not guarantee success"

Indeed. I think that one of the most overlooked factors is ease of development. If we look at the last generation, that was a major factor in some of the PS3s shortcomings that allowed the 360 to thrive in regards to multiplats.

It was also an element for why the Wii U struggled. If anything it may be *the* factor for it not finding any immediate success. If it had been easier to develop for, those multiplats released at launch might've pushed more hardware.

XtaZ1656d ago

I'm pretty sure the Nextbox will be more powerful, but it doesn't really matter which one is more powerful as there will be a minimal (single digit percent) difference at most.

What matters is the overall ecosystem and the Xbox ecosystem is so vastly superior to the PS ecosystem that Sony will probably never be able to compete.

DarXyde1656d ago

I don't know what to make of this comment:

"Thousands of games across four console generations will look and play best on Project Scarlett"

It could mean exactly what you think it does,
however you cannot discount the fact that Microsoft is pretty keen on doublespeak. The One S was touted as the only 4K console on the market because it released before PS4 Pro. To me, that comment can also mean that those games will look and play best across 4 generations (i.e., software enhancement for their own library). Since we do not know the extent of Sony's backwards compatibility, it could be between 1 and 5 generations. As long as it isn't exactly 4, Microsoft could make the case that it is not false advertising. We also don't know if that means azure enhancement or native hardware.

Call me cynical, but I don't believe this at face value.

One can also argue that PS5 was considered notably more powerful by Moriarty and Lisa Su's own comments that PS5 does indeed have secret sauce (normally, I would not place much stock in that statement, but it is from the hardware provider themselves).

That said, I am not willing to outright accept that PS5 outperforms Scarlett either. We just don't know. PS5 could have a 50% advantage and that's still tertiary in emphasis to me. I just want Sony to continue bringing the games. Simple as that.

IRetrouk1656d ago (Edited 1656d ago )

They removed any mention of ps5, not just the worlds fastest bit, I wouldn't read too much into that, both consoles will be similar, both are going to have customised chips, Sony also had people working at amd itself on these chips, coding too, I dont think it's going to be an easy win for either console tbf, its going to be the customizations that make a diff this upcoming gen.

crazyCoconuts1656d ago

I'm still not sure Xbox waiting a year for Scarlett wouldn't be a better strategy. They could easily lock in a power advantage like they did with the X, and just do price cuts on the X in 2020. Seems like the X still has plenty of horsepower to hold out another year...

Ceaser98573611656d ago

Insiders claimed Sony PS5 is powerful and even Sony acknowledged it. So these guys knows what going on inside. Like X was powerful then the pro was revealed before Pro was announced.

rainslacker1656d ago

I know one will be more powerful, and one will have less power.

In the end, I know I'm right, so that's better than the 50% that may be right positing on a specific console fitting within the above sentence.

darthv721656d ago

Well... both will obviously have to hold something back in order to upsell their mid gen upgrades again.

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Ceaser98573611655d ago (Edited 1655d ago )

Crazycoconut
This gen we have seen Gamepass fillers doesnt do the job its the AAA titles which does the job. X is powerful then the Pro but did it help MS or the Xbox family? No.. Sony PS4 and the Pro helped Sony to cross over 100mil because AAA games.
You speak of X still having plenty of horse powerful? But all that power for what?? Sea of Thieves?? And those gamepass filler games which was a part of XO19.. MS need to invest more on AAA titles other than Halo Forza Gears. But it seems like MS is focused on Quantity over Quality.
Now i am little worried about Initiative. I hear they are working on a 3rd person game. Hope its worth it.

TheSaint1655d ago

Power isn't what counts, games are what count.

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Obscure_Observer1656d ago

“If you remember the beginning of this generation we were a hundred dollars more expensive and yes, we were less powerful. And we started Project Scarlett with this leadership team in place with a goal of having market success.”

Hell Yes! It´s gonna be powerful. It´s gonna be affordable! 9 New Studios! Good times ahead! O.o

“We had the discussion years ago ‘do we want to go do another generation?’ Yes, and do we think there will be multiple generations ahead of us? I actually think there probably is,”

Lol at the people who wants Xbox to become a third party developer! XD

Phil also destroyed the dreams of some people wanting Gamepass avaliable on Stadia!

Xbox goin strong for the next generation.

Ausbo1656d ago

I’ve never heard of anyone wanting gamepass on stadia

arkard1656d ago

I mean you'd have to hear of someone wanting stadia first

Obscure_Observer1656d ago

@Ausbo @arkard

Read the article:

"I also wanted to get Spencer’s thoughts on Xbox Game Pass coming to services like Google Stadia."

shiva11656d ago (Edited 1656d ago )

@Asubo Probably reading the article
would make you realise

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ssj271656d ago

From the quote sounds like they almost give up but knew they should give it a last try to gain more users for their streaming service before abandoning the consoles. Hence why they are focusing on their streaming service giving it all to it. So i am guessing depending on how successful their streaming service becomes they will be abandoning console next gen or not.

Wasabi1656d ago (Edited 1656d ago )

@ssj27

***"sounds like they almost give up but knew they should give it a last try to gain more users for their streaming service before abandoning the consoles"***

How you can REACH the above conclusion based on what was written in the article is beyond me.

ssj271656d ago (Edited 1656d ago )

How? Well if they even have to discuss it ( shouldn'tbe obvious? But they can't exit and leave their big revenue income used. Ased subscribers go so they are investing into transitioning their user base into their streaming servise and exit the console race if they feel they dont need to invest in hardware ext gen). And he is not sure there will be other generations for the xbox's. I am using his own way of talking.

PyroMessiah861656d ago

So many people here on N4g making random crap like they are behind the scenes or MS themselves. Get over yourselfs jeez.

You're not an insider and you have no idea about what their plans are outside of what they actually say. They have no plans to abandon Xbox and that is obvious when they are obviously going all in on future partnerships/new studios/new ways to play like xcloud/new shows/new games and IP's/new services etc etc.

People forget that yes while Xbox may have sold half the units PS4 did this gen....they still made a profit overall with Xbox One. They turned the ship around rather well with gamepass and more. Also they have billions more cash behind them to push Xbox forward. Infact it was Sony as a overall division that was in the red. Playstation this gen has been the ONLY profitable thing for Sony. TV's and more bottomed out and they lost millions as a company. Playstation saved them.

Xbox on the other hand doesnt have a cash flow problem. These are facts btw not opinions. Read up about Sony's issues this year and last as a company outside of Playstation.

MS will keep Xbox around for a long long time with the changes afoot the past couple of years.

ocelot071656d ago

"Phil also destroyed the dreams of some people" He done that to Xbox fans for years 🤣

CYALTR1656d ago

Guessing you are not "an Xbox fan", but a PS guy. Just a hunch

ocelot071656d ago

@CYALTR fan of PlayStation yes. Fan of PC yes. Fan of Switch yes. Fan of XB1 nope had 3 XB1's since release and sold within a month or 2 of owning one. I don't like Microsoft's handling of first party titles. I like that gamepass is on PC so I do get to try what ever new titles they do release. There is just noting in the pipe line from Microsoft that interests me (apart from Forza titles) and it has been that way since 2011 or 2012.

On the other hand there is plenty of titles on PC,PS4,Switch I am looking forward to.

FanboySpotter1655d ago

Who buys 3 of the same console at launch and then sell within a month or 2? What. Frauds lol

ocelot071655d ago

@FanboySpotter where on earth did I say I bought 3 XB1's at launch? Are you ok there buddy? I think your full time job of looking for fanboy's on here is tiring you out.

To make things a little more clear for you. I have had 3 XB1 consoles since release like I original said. Key word is "since". Meaning I have had 3 consoles since the launch of the XB1 back in 2013. I bought my first XB1 in March 2014 and sold it in May 2014. I then bought a Xbox One S on release mainly for the 4K blu-ray player. Sold it 2 months later as I bought a better standalone 4K blu-ray player and noting game wise interested me to keep it.

Finally I bought a Minecraft XB1 S console last year because it was crazy cheap. Sold it within a month as I played pretty all the 360 games I wanted to.

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Thundercat771656d ago

I have seen this comment so many times but when I check with reality, Xbox is always last.

iplay1up21656d ago

The major mistake Microsoft made at XB1 launch was Kinetic. It drove the price up, and XB1 had less power than PS4. XB1 now is fantastic! Game Pass is a great deal! My X1X is getting major use. Just downloaded Rage 2.

TheSaint1655d ago

Xbox has shown very little so far, PLayStation is in prime position for next gen, it's Sony's to lose.

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Pickledpepper1656d ago

Scarlett day one for Me, I will get the ps5 but I'll wait for the price to drop.

mcstorm1656d ago

I think next gen is going to be an interesting one this gen for me has not felt as good as the last one but seeing how Microsoft are doing things it could be a big one for them.

For me I sold my switch and Xbox one x and built a gaming pc more because of the support of Cross play at the time and I have less time to game due to now having a family. I am still looking at carrying on the pc side especially with GP now on it and I think I will look at X cloud as my mobile gaming/ none pc games.

Pickledpepper1656d ago

I collect gaming consoles new and old, I have about 30 at the moment, all have to be in original boxes and good condition, I buy all the consoles released but not at once otherwise the wife gets mad lol.
I wear the trousers in my house but she tells me what pair lol.

mcstorm1655d ago

Haha I'm the same with being the man of the house and pants 😂😂😂 I did own them all but between being a dad and run a hockey club I have less and less time to game hence just going to pc.

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OG_TK_Cole1656d ago

All im going to say is "I Cant wait for the next Generation of Consoles to get here." SONY, Microsoft and Nintendo have me very excited. Im 43 years old and have been playing video games for 39 years, and I havent been this excited since the Sega, Sega Genesis, Nintendo, Super Nintendo, Turbografx 16 and NEO Geo era. Guys if everything goes according to plan, and Publishers back away from their greedy ways, we might be heading into the next Video Game Renaissance.

alb18991656d ago

Yep, I come from the same era haha
It feels like a revolution. Everyone will play videogames. We were the believers and we were right!

Pickledpepper1656d ago

I still own all the Sega and Nintendo consoles and still love playing them.

UnholyLight1656d ago

You are too good for N4G comments my friend. Very well said.

OG_TK_Cole1655d ago

Thank you kind sir, but I love you guys, im not going any where.

UnholyLight1655d ago

We are not worthy! haha nah in all seriousness I think this next gen is gonna be truly exciting and is gonna provide us gamers with some amazing choice between the competition!

JonTheGod1656d ago

I agree. Been playing since the Commodore plus/4 in 1985. This is probably the most excited I've been for a new gen since PS2. I wasn't particularly excited for PS4; I always think that they end the generation a bit too early - both the PS3 and PS4 had plenty of life left in them when they were replaced - but that said, I am all over the PS5. Midnight launch guaranteed (just as I was for PS2/3/4).

OG_TK_Cole1655d ago

Im definitely at Midnight launch. I cant wait!

rainslacker1655d ago

Hmm...I'm in the same boat age wise, and I won't lie, every year feels more and more depressing. Maybe I'm getting old, but the thought of consoles and the path the gaming industry is taking, just rarely excites me anymore. I get excited for games, which is the only thing I really look forward to from a new generation, or even this one. New console hardware is cool and all, but despite all the advances, games aren't advancing much since last gen rolled around. This gen feels like a better looking version of last, and while i know what is possible with the hardware next gen, and can think of ways it can be utilized, I still feel the games will just be better looking versions of this gen. Some devs will go the extra mile and really show off what's possible, but like this gen, you'll see a homogenization of most all the games to fit within predictable molds.

I think if we saw advancement in gaming like we did during the PS1/2 days, or even before when new generations came, I'd be more excited, but all this console talk just falls flat for me.

OG_TK_Cole1655d ago

In my opinion @rainslacker I honestly believe it has been the Publishers and Development teams who have been holding the last generation and this generation back. They are lazy purposely something I have been doing a lot of research on for years. No way 60fps shouldnt have been on every game in this generation. Also they are the ones scared of Innovation because it will make them work hard.

FanboySpotter1655d ago

You don't belong in n4g. Too pure for n4gera

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Neil Druckmann clarifies true intent of new Naughty Dog game comments

Following a recent interview with Sony, Naughty Dog head Neil Druckmann claims the original intent was “unfortunately lost” in the process.

just_looken3d ago

He can take dog shit put it in a oven with seasoning then call it waistland cookies the sony fans will pay $40 a cookie give them a medal of cooking.

No mater what trash this sobs puts out/talks about it will sell.

The true fact in the 8 years sense uncharted 4 his first time in the main seat to a point all this "amazing" team did was get 2 dudes to fuck in a van then destroy a franchise they never created.

But being a port studio they are decent at they should keep in there lane at being just that a glorified port studio.

fr0sty2d ago

Salty Bots... gotta love it.

just_looken2d ago

@frosty

Over what? naught dog under his command is a glorified port team tlou2 was mostly tlou 1 asset's with the same game play loop but forced a trans down your throat.

I would gladly help pay for this blight and his team to get removed from gaming in general.

fr0sty2d ago

Seeing a LGBT person exist in a work of fiction isn't "forcing them down your throat". Nobody is forcing you to play it. Nobody is forcing you to agree with it. If you think that just seeing a LGBT person exist is "force", it sounds like they make you very uncomfortable, and maybe you need to be doing some serious reflecting on exactly why... looks to me like you're suppressing something with all that fear.

just_looken2d ago

@fro

When i think of the last of us i think of a group of survivors crossing the apocalypse wasteland with a growing bond between 2 people that end up with Joel making ellie his new daughter.

Then you fire up the 2nd one bang joel is dead oh that comic series? bang dead

Oh you want to continue all that we grew in the first one? na f that toss it in the trash

Now here is a trans woman so strong superboy would blush go out there kill all what made tlou1 then halfway get a forced sex scene that you can not skip between 2 dudes.

The gameplay? just like the first game the combat/backpack system crafting sytem? 0 changes/improvements.

I could go on but lets face it they copy pasted that tlou 1 assets bin a shit ton of times.

There is nothing on the box or the ads or anything before the game that said you would going to spend most of the game controlling a new trans character that has no ties to anything of the first game the only existence was to kill what the first game made.

Oh but hey there is a mp mode coming out before 2022 wait what is that? oh we made it its own game then cancelled it now go but the game again as we port it a few times.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

mkis0072d ago (Edited 2d ago )

What has Straley or Henig released since they left ND? Not a thing! stop scapegoating! Which of them is credited with co-writing a majorly successful show?

just_looken2d ago

@mkis007

You bring up Bruce Straley really? someone that gave us 4 generations of amazing games and was there in the creation of 4 legendary franchises but was tossed in the trash for the pos niel druckmann not 7? years ago

So yeah in those 7? years you right all he has done is get 2 awards one is a game award for a puzzle game he made oh boy right like for fuck sake's all niel has done is one game that was a overhyped fan boy orgasm underneath all that ps jizz was just a typical 5/10 game.

Then you drag Amy Hennig that poor woman was also kicked out then became this century's Brendan Fraser with her sexual misconduct information coming out.

We all know how horrible people are treated behind the scenes she might have been sexual attacked groped or something.

So yeah all she did after was battlefield hardline forspoken now that new marvel 1945 game but hey Brendan Fraser was a great actor till he also said he was sexually attacked just now he is allowed back in no doubt she also had to take a leave of absence out and or was forced out on ice.

Man there are way to many out there that look at niel at the new gaming jesus when all he had done is some work on uncharted 4 then tlou2

Oh also the tvhshow? for real all they did was use stuff from the 2013 game its like saying GOT was a 10/10 but never watching past season 3

-Foxtrot2d ago

@mkis007

That's highly unfair to them both

Amy Hennig got messed around working on projects that got cancelled by the publishers (EA) and then ended up on a awful game (Forspoken) where you had 4 other writers working on it which is just a recipe for disaster. She is now working on Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra. Not her fault she was pushed out of NaughtyDog, something both Nolan North and Richard McGonagle have both said in interviews.

Bruce Straley left after burn out, the rest of the story we don't know and will never know just like what happened with Amy Hennig. He decided to take a break and wasn't sure if he wanted to come back to gaming however he had an idea he wanted to make so he founded Wildflower Interactive, a smaller studio where they are currently working on a new game.

Tacoboto2d ago

@the obvious stain of a commenter

The trans character wasn't Abby. Try playing Part 2 instead of gatekeeping what you think Part 1 was about and meant.

Maybe try watching the show while you're at it, because you're terribly off with your opinion on that too

MajorLazer2d ago

Naughty Dog is better than all the MS studios put together.

derek2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@just he has been behind 2 of the greatest games ever made. Tlou2 was easily the best non-vr game made last gen. Losers just can't get over Joel's death, mixed with the usual console war nonsense. The fact that you so casually call him a sob shows how deranged some gamers have become about Drunkmann.

derek2d ago

@frosty, for people like Just, including anyone that can be categorized as being a minority in any kind of media is "forcing it down his throat " lol. I to don't care for poor "checking box" inclusion for inclusion sake but that was not the case with tlou2.

fr0sty2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

The pathetic part about it is, you can tell just_looken never even played TLOU, because that was the game where Ellie's sexuality was first brought to light... No "that was forced down our throats" to be said about that.

Only terrified folks in the closet that use their hatred as cover from outing themselves fear LGBT people that much. They exist. They will exist in all aspects of life, including popular media. Get over it.

just_looken2d ago

@all

Once again you drag out something like its a big win

Here is my old channel a clip of me playing TLOU on ps3
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Search my channel for more clips

Proof its my channel? look at this profiles banner that is 7yrs old then look at other vids on that channel like my bf3 clips to see my psn id. But knowing this group that is way to much work.

Also elle being a lesbian is another trump card? one dlc is all we got of that a dlc that took over a year to be tossed out.

Rainbowcookie1d 23h ago

Hey at least we have cookies to eat 😄

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Rangerman12083d ago

Glad he clarified it but i'm still somewhat skeptical. Plus, his comments about how Ai will revolutionize storytelling were still pretty iffy.

anast3d ago

No need to bow down, Stan your ground. The AI comments were gross though.

S2Killinit3d ago

Pretty excited as I read these. I just cant wait to see what ND is up to.

Export3d ago

put a chick in it and make her gay !

shadowknight2033d ago

Next they need a diverse couple, and perhaps some climate activists

StormSnooper2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I would love that if only to piss off all the lunatics. Lol

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Naughty Dog Boss Neil Druckmann Says AI Will 'Revolutionize' Development

Druckmann claims the tech could 'push the boundaries of storytelling in games.'

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Jin_Sakai4d ago

I’m more interested in what else he said.

“Neil Druckmann says new Naughty Dog title could ‘redefine mainstream perceptions of gaming’

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H94d ago

It will be something like "we erased gameplay all together it's just a movie now"

purple1014d ago

every time naughty dog make a game, you play it and get the feeling "this is not possible'

from the boulder running towards you in crash, on ps1,
to the massive open world of jak and daxter, on ps2,
to the QuickTime events sequences of uncharted on ps3/4

and now we will see what they do with ps5,

H94d ago

Press X for doubt at "PS5"

-Foxtrot4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Arrogant asshole who sniffs his own farts bigs up next game…sounds like typical PR to me

You know what I find interesting? Almost every site reporting this as the main title where the REAL interesting bit of the interview is Neil praising AI and saying it will be used to help push story, characters, dialogue and more.

It’s super shitty to big up AI especially when it comes to story telling and other creative elements.

senorfartcushion4d ago

Just because someone says this type of stuff, it doesn't mean that it's guaranteed to be good news.

You can say this about microtransactions. MXTs revolutionised the gaming industry.

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Levii_924d ago

Geez how full of themselves are these guys.

Einhander19724d ago

He also said it has "ethical issues we need to address" but of course that doesn't get the clicks.

CrimsonWing694d ago

I’m all for it. Cuts the time to make a game. Look, Hellblade 2 took 5 years to make, if AI can do that in half the time, as a consumer, I support it.

Chard4d ago

Things will get far sloppier brother

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The Witcher 3 REDkit Q&A - CDPR & Yigsoft Confirm Steam Workshop Support; Further Changes Planned

CD Projekt RED and Yigsoft have launched The Witcher 3 REDkit on PC. We interviewed both studios to discuss the release of these mod tools.

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