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Xbox Scorpio Will Be Priced $499, Will Feature UHD Blu-Ray, Says Geoff Keighley

Geoff Keighley recently tweeted about the price point of Xbox Scorpio.

darthv722543d ago

Of course you'd say that. Better question is will you get one if they also reveal a slew of new games?

My max price is $499.99 and anything higher would be crazy but if MS wants to make up for lower than expected sales of xb1 then they have to make it price competitive.

$399.99 and they have potential to surpass the existing xb1 sales in a shorter amount of time. Might even convert a few one sided people in the process.

There is plenty of room in the middle pool. Come on in... the water is fine.

Thatguy-3102543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

I highly doubt the Scorpio will surpass the original Xbox one install base. The generation is close to finishing in like 2 to 3 years. I don't understand how you guys assume the Scorpio will magically get the mass consumer behind it. The

nX2543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

500$ for a bunch of 3rd party games in 4k, nasty subscriptions and a handful of exclusives would be a joke. Without MS announcing at least four or five striking exclusives today this thing is dead before it even launches. The PS4 Pro @400$ was a lot already but at least it is backed by continually amazing exclusives.

darthv722543d ago

^prob because this system is more next gen than we are lead to believe. If MS wants to flip the switch... they flip the switch and boom. Next gen.

uptownsoul2543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

While I think $499 is fine for the hardcore & fanboys, I do think it'll be a tough pill to swallow for the average & casuals. Especially if Pro drops to $349 during Scorpio's release month.

If price is true then the tough work for Phil & Aaron starts now...
They've been comparing Scorpio's power to Pro's & they will continue to do so. BUT now they have to do the power comparison as it relates to the price difference (which again I think will be $150 at launch of Scorpio)

The price will be less of a big deal for the Hardcore & Fanboys but a pretty big deal for the Average & Casual

jojo3192543d ago

Huge fan of the middle pool. Been here for years. No drama whatsoever.

ABeastNamedTariq2543d ago

My max price is $499 too. I think that's a great price if they can back it up with games.

UltraNova2543d ago

I m smelling a bluf here...i will wait until Phil comes on stage tonight and confirms it him self.

LOGICWINS2543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

"I highly doubt the Scorpio will surpass the original Xbox One"

Anyone who believes that is being silly. 4K media, let alone 4K gaming, isn't mainstream yet. The Scorpio is meant for the hardest of the hardcore Xbox gamers who wouldn't mind spending $499.

If you have a problem spending 500 bucks for the most powerful gaming console to date, then you aren't the target market for the Scorpio.

@uptownsoul- That's why I'm so excited for the Scorpio. I personally don't plan on getting it, but I like the fact that it will make Sony drop the Pro to $350. I want 4K gaming to be as affordable as possible so the install base can swell up. The better the Scorpio and the Pro do in terms of sales, the more incentive development have to cater to 4K gaming. Anyone who wants the Scorpio to fail doesn't want 4K gaming to become mainstream...which is CRAZY IMO.

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darthv722543d ago

@shin... if thats the case then that would suck.

Just have to watch and see how it turns out. I like to be optimistic because i enjoy gaming. Being pessimistic is a sign of a fanboy.

ninsigma2543d ago

@logicwins
Living up to your name. Nice post.

Ashunderfire862543d ago

And yet casual consumers are buying new Ipads for $499.99 every 6 month or a year with no problem. $499.99 is a steal for Xbox Scorpio!

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AngelicIceDiamond2543d ago

Geoff doesn't know for sure. You can't hype up something like this only to make it unaffordable no matter how good the games look. Geoff probably seen some behind the scene footage of Scorpio running games and is now thinking 500$. Like I said I don't think he actually knows himself.

Eiyuuou2543d ago

But I don't like swimming...

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GTgamer2543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

The fact is if the price is $500 and Sony drops the Pro's price then the Scorpio won't even make a dent you guys know it then again the majority of people that will buy the Scorpio are the ones who already own X1 and those are facts.

@dartthv72 okay let's say they do flip the switch and say next gen then Sony will announce the PS5 and once again the xbox will be the weakest console again unless MS wants to start another gen 😂😂😂 28514;.

BlackTar1872543d ago

@Darth that's what I'm afraid of. MS flipping that next gen switch before it's time

Bronxs152543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

Lol wanna talk joke? How much are people paying for no 3rd party and handful of 1st party games in 720p?

Talking about the switch of course

Erik73572543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

if a good amount of those xbox games are also on pc why not just build a pc that will look better and cost the same price?

It blows my mind that people still will go to a xbox and not PC especially when their core exclusives are all coming towards PC....

Babadook72543d ago

Yup. $499 is likely. But why would Geoff leak it? Seems like a bluff. Will there be a $399 version too? For the 1 TB option?

scofios2543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

Dathv

If its 399 with that power and uhd bd that must be loss on every unit sold .
The pro has less power 4tf vs 6 tf and no uhd bd and its 399 .

Eonjay2543d ago

I don't care what Geoff says. It needs to be 399. Why? Easy. See more than likely it will target 8th gen console owners since they are the ones with huge collections of games for that platform. Asking for 499 again after 3 years won't fly.

morganfell2543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

"^prob because this system is more next gen than we are lead to believe."

No. That isn't they way history works. Always there is hype and fanfare surrounding any system when it is announced and shown for the first time but as soon as independent review takes place all the sleight of hands marketing goes away and a systems shortcomings are seen in the naked light of day. I am not saying it won't be a good console only that it isn't the second coming and it can't tackle a PC. Neither is it more than we have been led to believe. As Yoda would say, "Always is true...the opposite."

It won't sell huge numbers or change the state of current affairs because games do that rather than hardware.

This is all machts nichts though because you are willing to say anything to support MS. You have tried to disguise your Redmond bias since day one but you fool no one. Nothing wrong with being a MS supporter, but judas priest at least be honest about it. And stop before you say you own multiple consoles because I own 2 Xbox Ones and I am partial as hell to Sony. Multiple hardware ownership does not engender objectivity in me or in you.

Eonjay2543d ago

I call B'S. I say 399

Kenshin_BATT0USAI2543d ago

Last time they revealed a new slew of games 3 of them were canned, and some have been missing and the ones that did come out were underwhelming. They gotta do REALLY well this time to even get me considering them at this point.

thehitman13982543d ago

Of course you would say that with your comment history, lol.

Did you not realize what you just said, "if they also reveal a slew of new games"?????.

LMFAO.... If micro$oft hasn't come out with good first party games, what makes you think they are just gonna magically poop them out...??

Darth.... you are the STUPID kinda funny.. thanks for the laugh :-)

ILostMyMind2543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

"Prob because this system is more next gen than we are lead to believe. If MS wants to flip the switch ... they flip the switch and boom".

Poor, deluded boy. Who decides when a generation of consoles starts is Sony.

LastCenturyRob2543d ago

LOL, entertaining how trolls like theturd feel compelled to claim what they own has the "far superior" whatever just because it is the only console mommy and daddy bought them.

darthv722543d ago

Sorry morgan but when have i been dishonest? If im biased towards anything then its Sega. I may prefer to play xbox but i dont hate playstation. I disagree with sony and MS when they make stupid decisions (lack bc on ps4, lack of 1st part games on xb1).

GameNameFame2543d ago

Wow the biggest Xbox fanboy Darth said 499 is the highest price. MS did really screw up here then.

Even for darth, the price is at its max range. Lawl.

thehitman13982543d ago

Hey Darth, now that the show is over in they literally show no new xbone exclusive games and the biggest cheer the crowd gave was bc for Xbox games, what do you have to day now???

Where's those slew of games you was talking about???

darthv722543d ago

@above... it is what it is. Price is the most id pay and thats the good part.

Bad part... the games. Was expecting more but.... damn.

Nodoze2543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

That is a large amount of coin. If Sony drops the Pro pricing, and adds in a bundled title (Horizon is screaming for a pack in) I have to say that will be very hard to beat....and we have not even seen what is on offer yet.

Tomorrow night is going to be very interesting. Cannot wait.

Ori looks great, Forza looked great, Anthem stole the show (not exclusive)...frankly I have concerns about Crackdown (looks totally meh for this long in development), Sea of Thieves looks...interesting, but I don't think it is going to be a system seller. Also liked the original XB backwards compat. Pretty cool, but good lord MS should have had a sequel to Crimson Skies LONG LONG AGO.

There were a few titles (from Japan) that looked interesting, but more than likely they are not exclusive or at the very least are timed exclusives.

jugo142542d ago

don't be a fanboy. You know this was a very poor choice on Microsofts part. They didn't even show any games worth getting that arent already on other consoles.

ShinMaster2542d ago

Dude, I'm not sure how showing us an 8 year old game like Minecraft in 4k is supposed to make us excited.
$500 for a system with practically no exclusives.
They're putting all their games on PC, so why should we even bother with the One X?

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Death2543d ago

I dunno. Cheaper is obviously better for increased sales, but for the $100 more than the PS4 Pro you get 2 tflops more power and the ability to play UHD movies. While more expensive, it's a better value than the competitions offering. We will find out in 5 hours.

cbuc11252543d ago

It's not absolutely a better value because the competition has better games, which is the main purpose of the box. And that's not just an opinion, check the overall number of games and ratings.

thekhurg2543d ago

It's not a better value. The games are far superior on Sony's platform.

LOGICWINS2543d ago

Death, I'll be closely watching Microsoft's conference. MS has to show me something EXCEPTIONAL if they want me to buy a Scorpio over a Pro.

If they fail to impress me today, they've lost me for life. Sony is too far ahead in terms of exclusives: Shenmue, Danganronpa, Yakuza, Persona, Uncharted, TLOU, Days Gone, Death Stranding, Spiderman, New IP from Sucker Punch, Detroit, Ni No Kuni, Nioh, Nier etc.

MS has dug themselves in a hole that I'm afraid they can't dig out of. The only way I see them getting the success that they want is to partner with Valve to make Steam games available through the Scorpio...that's the only way I see them "winning".

showtimefolks2543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

death

so now we care more if my console plays the bluray in 4k and not if it has amazing games only possible on xbox. people say exclusives don't matter but miss the point, exclusives are suppose to take advantage of the power better than any 3rd party

do you really think 3rd party publishers will piss off ps4's install base by making their games look and play that much better? look at destiny 2 don't expect too much out of scorpio 3rd party wise

especially since sony has so many marketing deals

it's amazing to me how xbox fans tout about their console playing bluray than to it will have amazing games. same thing in BC i guess xbox fans are happy getting xbox360 games to play on xbox one than to as for new experiences

Critic4l_Strik32543d ago

Isnt Sony dropping the price by $50 on the PS4?

TheCommentator2543d ago

Logic, where are the good games you keep mentioning Sony has? That list is full of crap, IMO. Not one good game in the bunch. Maybe... maybe... Uncharted. Then again, Sony is milking Uncharted to death.

Death2543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

Games are subjective. Third party support is very good on both consoles. Performance will be better on Scorpio so they have a clear edge there. First party exclusives are a matter of preference. If you like Sonys offerings more, then value is less important to you.

As for the "more" games Sony offers, it doesn't change the fact Sony sells 7.5 games per console sold. You guys are emphasizing something far less relevant than it actually is. Put it in perspective, you are claiming all the things Microsoft is offering to add value is offset by the games you aren't buying.

@Logic,

You are going to buy 14 more games for the PS4 which is twice the attach rate already. You are a clear exception and should stick with Sony. Now if you are just impressed with the games you listed and aren't buying them, I'm not sure what to tell you. I would base your decision on what games you are going to get. There's nothing wrong with choosing Sony, for many people they are the right choice. That takes nothing away from the people buying an Xbox One, Switch or Scorpio.

thekhurg2543d ago

Who fucking cares how many games per console they sell? There are these things called rentals and used game sales. Also, when you have sold more than double your competition, that means there's a larger variety of gamers. Some that only play sports, some only play shooters, some RPGs, some 100% casuals, some indie fans, and then the gamer that plays a bunch of different genres.

annoyedgamer2543d ago

Can't the slim play UHD movies?

Death2543d ago

@thekurg,

You are 100% correct. Sony has twice the consoles sold to a much wider variety of people. This means every game released isn't important to as many people. Microsoft has a smaller group of people to appeal to. Why should they be expected to have as many games as Sony and why are the games people don't want important?

As for why are the games sold important, that is the actual reason platform holders exist. They make nothing on used games or rentals. Do you feel Sony fans rent and buy used at a higher rate than Microsoft fans for this to be relevant to the topic?

Sharky2312543d ago

Until tomorrow when Sony drops the price of the pro. That's the one big way to compete with newer hardware!

Nodoze2543d ago

I am excited to see the conference tonight. I do not own an XBO presently. I have held out as there really was nothing that even piqued my interest. I would not mind some Forza, Halo, and Gears. I had both the original XB, and the 360 (until the 2nd RROD after that i switched to PS3). I am hopeful that they have some software to show, and not just 'Hey buy the Scorpio cause we run 3rd party stuff at higher resolution'. If that is ultimately the strategy (optimizing 3rd party) then this is DOA. Especially at 500 bucks.

Mr_Luke2543d ago

better... value... what?! Damn, for that price i add a bit more and in these days i get the Pro + PSVR or the Pro + 2 games! Where's the better value? Only to get a bit of improved graphics? No, sorry.

Eonjay2543d ago

I would take Geoff's text seriously. I don't trust it.

DJ2543d ago

Agreed, what's the point of buying a 4K TV if my console doesn't play 4K Blurays. Sony botched the PS4 Pro by making it mid-range. It doesn't even look like a pro console.

Salooh2543d ago

It's not a better value, you simply get what you pay for and that's based on the way you said it XD.

DigitalRaptor2543d ago

"Sony has twice the consoles sold to a much wider variety of people. This means every game released isn't important to as many people. Microsoft has a smaller group of people to appeal to. Why should they be expected to have as many games as Sony and why are the games people don't want important?"

#1: Shouldn't that mean that their software should be outselling PS4 exclusive software by a factor of almost 2:1?
#2: MS has a much larger group of people to appeal to now that their games on on PC.

rocketpanda2543d ago

It's competitor is $100 cheaper with a better exclusive library of games. I think I know where the better value is.

The X will sell to the hardcore, do you really think many gamers with an Xbox, PS4 or even switch will suddenly want to drop $499 because of 2 tflops more? Nintendo proved you do need vastly powerful hardware to sell well.

MS better have a a mindblowing of exclusives to expect massive and continuous sales of this console.

morganfell2543d ago

Wait, so one of the reasons it is a better value as a gaming machine is it plays disc based UHD movies?

ShinMaster2542d ago

If you have the og Xbox One, then it's cheaper to upgrade your PC (if it isn't already powerful enough at this point) to play pretty much every so called "exclusive". Instead of $500.

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MegamanXXX2543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

I don't think it's DOA if its $500 dollars but I also don't think the Scorpio will affect PS4 in any way since Sony rely's more on first party exclusives and they already have the install base for the third-party games as well. If Scorpio came out in 2013 it probably would have been a different outcome and more competitive. We won't ever know. It would've been more interesting. The new argument third party games look better on the Scorpio vs PS4 has more first party and second party exclusives.

Manic20142543d ago

Well the original launched for 499. Considering this does not include Kinect, and will be the most powerful console in the market which caters gamers first, t'd say they have pretty great shot.

thekhurg2543d ago

The original also sold like crap until they lowered the price. There were "day one edition" xbones on Amazon, sold BY Amazon, for almost a year after the console came out.

Consoles over $399 just don't sell well.

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seanpitt232543d ago

$499 is spot on and thats the logical price if you put it up against the pro $399 you are paying a extra $100 for a 4K blueray player more Ram better GPU.
On paper it's a good deal but in reality if they don't show the games and gives us a reason to buy it then it's not a good deal.

ninsigma2543d ago

Disagree. 499 with what it offers is pretty good imo. Can't expect ps4 pro prices when it's a stronger machine. I also don't expect MS to take a hit on it because why should They?? They need some sort of a return. If they do give it for 399 however than that WOULD be amazing and it'll fly off the shelves.

showtimefolks2543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

Majin-vegeta

i think thje price is good and i don't think MS can expect $499 console to sell 25 million just like sony doesn't expect that out of pro. most of the sales for rest of the year and around holiday will come from xbox s and ps4 slim

these mid gen upgrades are targeting core gaming fanbase

and i think he is tricking us into thinking it's $499 so when MS announce it as $399 the surprise element will be there and a bigger mic drop

atleast that's what i think

XanderZane2543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

Your comment is DOA. I've been saying that price since the Scorpio reveal. I have no problems paying for "the beast" that will play most of it's game in native 4K @60 & 30 fps. As long as Microsoft gives us new IP's and exclusives, I'm all in.
Hmm... I wonder if they will give us 2 SKUs this time?

lelo2play2543d ago

If it's $499... then it's simply another mistake by Microsoft in the middle of a bunch of other mistakes made this gen.

Death2543d ago

What if their goal isn't to sell the most consoles and instead offer a premium product? Some people look for the best possible, not the cheapest or most common.

ziggurcat2543d ago

$499 isn't really that far off the mark considering the tech inside the box. Ideally, I think everyone would love to see $399, but I think the price pretty much everyone was expecting was $499.

Jaypi032543d ago

Dude with PS4 exclusive, calling a XBOX console, DOA, didn't see that one coming.

AizenSosuke2543d ago

Xbox Scorpio will be like this
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

And stage at e3 is being built for it.

LexHazard792543d ago

Did I see you put DOA when PS4 Pro is $399 and does far less than the Scorpio.

Day 1 buy...if $100 is the difference
Scorpio is giving you 6tflops, 4K blu playback, Vapor cooling, true Native 4K gaming. And some are crying..even if PS4 Pro went to $349 Xbox still better deal with what we know.

joab7772543d ago

It is too much! Especially for a console that relies on 4k.

vikingland12543d ago

I don't think it will be DOA, but you will hear crickets chirping in the audience just like the XB1 reveal if it's $499. People don't like to pay that much.

Vasto2543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

Typical fanboy reply.

Everybody was expecting $499

PS4 Pro is the one that is DOA

LexHazard792543d ago

PS4 Pro not worth the $399 I can tell you that!

Aenea2543d ago

Pro's sold: 3 million
Scorpio's sold: 0

Bobafret2543d ago

Looks like you got your wish then.

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modelgod2543d ago

It's not true, it's 429.99$

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trooper_2543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

I don't know why anyone thought this was going to be $399.99.

Sam Fisher2543d ago

Listen either way ms is f$&@ed, they pull out skorpio as mid gen, sony cut pro price, and sony has lead in making next gen sooner. Ms cant just make a mid gen console then in 2 yrs next gen thats a good kick in the ass to its people. Or if ms says skorpio is next gen then sony just makes a better console after them still winning the situation. Ms is in a really bad situation money wise

IamTylerDurden12543d ago

The MS conference is terrible so far. I'm at the minecraft in 4k section.

GamingCentaur2543d ago

Yup. No reason for anyone to buy it.
No real exclusives announced either. Disappointing conference overall.

Nu2543d ago

Are the Scorio chips confirmed to have a horrible taste as well?

DarXyde2543d ago

$499 is a pretty fair price. You need to consider that nothing about it is weaker than any of its competition. I definitely think Sony should drop the price of the Pro. It's about perspective: if Pro stays $399, Scorpio has 33% more RAM, about 10% more computing power, slightly under 50% more graphical processing power with about 50% more speed at 25% more cost.

Of course, I don't think it matters to me because PS4 has far more games to my liking, but if you're in the market for more powerful hardware, that is, if you truly care about console power, Scorpio is not at all a bad value. You might get more out of Pro in terms of software, but that's not what this is about. This is about considering it "dead on arrival" and I don't believe $499 is at all a bad price for what they're offering.

Sm30002542d ago

Why? Whats your ideal price

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Deep-throat2543d ago

Not for people who want the best versions of third party games on consoles and to enjoy their 4K blurays.

MegamanXXX2543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

What if a lot of people already have 4K bluray players since it's cheaper now. You can find great deals everywhere online. Just saying I got a Samsung 4K bluray player for a great deal. Ntm the Xbox one S is a good 4K bluray player as well.

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-Foxtrot2543d ago

What's the point though mid gen?

I mean if this was like...you know a brand new gen PS5 VS SCORPIO then damn right I'd buy one if the PS5 was weaker with a similar price point but it's mid gen. It's why I skipped out on the PS4 Pro

At this point...mid gen, I'm just happy to wait until next gen kicks off and they both release consoles at same time.

SpaceRanger2543d ago

"Not for people who want the best versions of third party games on consoles."

You would have bought a PS4 years ago if that mentality actually meant something to you.

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ninsigma2543d ago

Those people are few and far between.

Godmars2902543d ago

But it is if MS, and those rooting for MS, want the Xbox brand to flourish.

Nevermind that at this point because of all the DLC microtransactions and general whale farming that gaming in general has reached a saturation point. As is, or as a service rather than product driven industry, its not going to grow in any real significant way. Just cannibalize the current market.

nowitzki20042543d ago

I get what you ae saying its worth it with the tech, but as a gamer I just care what games can I play there that I cant play on other systems and PC.. and thats what I think is value for a gaming system.

MagicBeanz2543d ago

Well by that logic if people really wanted they best versions of third party games then all those xbox fanboys who bought xbone would have bought PS4's instead.

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_-EDMIX-_2543d ago

.... Except anybody who has that type of money where money is not an object they can easily just purchase a PC and have that today better.

BlakHavoc2543d ago

I'm sure it'll sell to hardcores that want it, but it won't even catch the original X1 at that price

Mr_Luke2543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

If people cared so much about 4K blu-rays the Xbox One S would be sold out everywhere, so... and pay again so much just to get some extra graphics, for the same games, i don't know. I'm a graphic whore but i've never bought a PS4 Pro for example. I'm happy with my normal PS4 because the games are great. Really, $499 seems a bit too much for me.

Markusb332543d ago

Not sure spending that on a console is worth it based on 3rd party, Build a powerful pc. Then upgrade when ever you want and still get the same games at better visuals.

Why o why2543d ago

They must all have ps4s then

DigitalRaptor2543d ago

@ SpaceRanger

"You would have bought a PS4 years ago if that mentality actually meant something to you."

Truth bomb, right there.

rocketpanda2543d ago

Those who want the best version of 3rd party games already do and have for a few years.....PC!

Comeback when there are exclusives lined up to make people want to go out and buy it who've already invested in a current gen system.

ShinMaster2542d ago

It's cheaper to buy a 4K Blu-ray player or upgrade your PC to play every so called "exclusive" (if it isn't already powerful enough at this point).

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jojo3192543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

@The_Infected

Is over 25 million people a "low install base" because you consider 25 million to not be a lot of people? Or because it's simply less than Sony? Even if it's significantly less, does that ,
Make 25 million a small number? Nope.

4Sh0w2543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

Well not surprising the same anti Xbox crowd thinks it will be DOA, they hate on Xbox everyday so it doesn't matter what they think. $499 Will be the sweet spot for enthusiasts. That's at least 3-4mil the 1st year.

Just let me know when I can pre-order

xsta1ker2543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

it's not 25 mill more like 29.593 million. compared to sonys 58.033 mill and the wii @ 15.659 million

aconnellan2543d ago

I personally don't think so - if true, it's only $50 more than what a lot of people (like myself) were predicting.

I don't know about the general public, but an extra $50 on top of what I expected would be the absolute minimum does not equal DOA

hermsgerms2543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

Isn't this the same website that said it would be $600-700? Now $500 is too much?

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yellowgerbil2543d ago

that is too pricey. My local walmart doesn't even carry the PS4pro because of the extra 100 over the base model, no way they'll carry the scorpio when it is literally double the cost of the base.

OMGitzThatGuy2543d ago

Geoff is lying, it will be 399-449. There is no way such a high profile person at the show is just gonna spoil it.

Heavenly King2543d ago

I think that too, M$ want people to spread fake news so when the real pricw shows, people will be crazy happy about it.

Dan_scruggs2543d ago

Seriously ask yourself. Why would he lie? What possible reason would a person whose sole purpose is to report gaming news lie knowing that the community can viciously lash out against him for doing so. Is Geoff secretly known for being a liar or are you just assuming that based on absolutely no evidence?

Markusb332543d ago

I would guess he was asked to tweet that then they say 399.
For max impact and to make fans jizz

Yui_Suzumiya2543d ago

You're right. I've never seen a PS Pro at Walmart either!

Antarius7172543d ago

Wal mart caters to food stamp trash of course they wouldn't carry higher end tech

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meatnormous2543d ago

What were people expecting? It's a 4k console. Just like pc, it costs more for higher resolutions. I'm surprised it isn't more than that.

meatnormous2543d ago

I said in another article that my 980 ti can do 4k, but not at a great fps. It was 675.00, so 500.00 bones is pretty cheap for 4k graphics. I personally will not be buying Scorpio as I am salty as a day 1 Xbox 1 owner.

MegamanXXX2543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

Do you think all games will be in 60fps on the Scorpio with that laptop cpu? I barely can get 4K 60fps on my rig and I got a intel 7700k GTX 1070. Dues EX can't even reach 60fps which is mind boggling. I'm waiting for the new gpus from Nvidia or AMD for 4K 60fps

meatnormous2543d ago

No I don't. I think to get 60 fps on Scorpio at 4k, sacrifices will be made and it will still be very far behind pc gaming. People were looking at the scorpio as the second coming of christ, they are going to be disappointed. As you can see, people were expecting way too much at a low price.

Liqu1d2543d ago

If someone is a day 1 adopter of the XB1 & Scorpio then will have spent $1000 on hardware in 4 years, that's not even taking into account XBL fees. A more powerful PC can be had for $1000 and it will last longer than 4 years. Console gaming is supposed to be cheaper than PC gaming.

letsa_go2543d ago

Why would you pay that much? I got my GTX 1080 for $450.

meatnormous2543d ago

liqu1d gets it. Games are cheaper on pc as well most of the time. No subscription fees and you can keep playing your old games cause the architecture has been the same. Broken games are fixed by fans and mods. Upgrading a pc over the years isn't that bad either cause you can sell your old graphics card to go towards a new card. I have a pc, ps4, ps4 pro, wii u and an xbox 1. I regret buying one of those systems, guess which one.

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goatking2543d ago

Because its xbox, they would hate on it if $400 saying how xbox is going too lose so much money.

MagicBeanz2543d ago

lol, but it isn't $400 is it? And dont act like the hate doesn't go both ways cause it clearly does.

kenwonobi2543d ago

It's not 400 dollars though. 499$ is a huge difference than 400 dollars. Remember PS3? That was a whole new next generation system that came with Blu-ray. Way more value and it was hated.

MagicBeanz2543d ago

It hasn't actually been officially announced yet, this is a rumor although Keighley does have some connections so it may very well be accurate we have to wait and see, but the intelligent people knew it would be expensive it was the fanboys trying to downplay it so it made it seem like it would be affordable to everyone.

modelgod2543d ago

It's not 499.99$, it's 429.99. A 499.99$ pricepoint will spell disaster for MS. I would admit, I have no clue who their target market is at this point. If it's the person who doesn't have an Xbox or a PS, then the 499$ pricepoint is disastrous!! While assuming that since you don't own a console then chances are you don't have a 4k TV. If their TM is existing X1 customers, the 499.99$ will still be considered high considering we will feel that we will have to be incentive latent consisering this will be the 3rd console we've purchased this gen; in other words....a slap to the face. Now, I know who they are really targeting and they are playing a dangerous game, PC owners. They are the ones who are used to paying high prices to game, and the MS marketing team feels as If most of them are ready to game on a console, and they feel that they've finally have the type of strength that the PC gamers are looking for (console wise). It's a total miscalculation, and I'm here to predict that the Scorpio will actually sink the ship that is the Xbox brand!!

MagicBeanz2543d ago

Its all but confirmed to be $499, so you're wrong. But you're right about one thing, it will be a disaster.

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Neil Druckmann clarifies true intent of new Naughty Dog game comments

Following a recent interview with Sony, Naughty Dog head Neil Druckmann claims the original intent was “unfortunately lost” in the process.

just_looken3d ago

He can take dog shit put it in a oven with seasoning then call it waistland cookies the sony fans will pay $40 a cookie give them a medal of cooking.

No mater what trash this sobs puts out/talks about it will sell.

The true fact in the 8 years sense uncharted 4 his first time in the main seat to a point all this "amazing" team did was get 2 dudes to fuck in a van then destroy a franchise they never created.

But being a port studio they are decent at they should keep in there lane at being just that a glorified port studio.

fr0sty2d ago

Salty Bots... gotta love it.

just_looken2d ago

@frosty

Over what? naught dog under his command is a glorified port team tlou2 was mostly tlou 1 asset's with the same game play loop but forced a trans down your throat.

I would gladly help pay for this blight and his team to get removed from gaming in general.

fr0sty2d ago

Seeing a LGBT person exist in a work of fiction isn't "forcing them down your throat". Nobody is forcing you to play it. Nobody is forcing you to agree with it. If you think that just seeing a LGBT person exist is "force", it sounds like they make you very uncomfortable, and maybe you need to be doing some serious reflecting on exactly why... looks to me like you're suppressing something with all that fear.

just_looken2d ago

@fro

When i think of the last of us i think of a group of survivors crossing the apocalypse wasteland with a growing bond between 2 people that end up with Joel making ellie his new daughter.

Then you fire up the 2nd one bang joel is dead oh that comic series? bang dead

Oh you want to continue all that we grew in the first one? na f that toss it in the trash

Now here is a trans woman so strong superboy would blush go out there kill all what made tlou1 then halfway get a forced sex scene that you can not skip between 2 dudes.

The gameplay? just like the first game the combat/backpack system crafting sytem? 0 changes/improvements.

I could go on but lets face it they copy pasted that tlou 1 assets bin a shit ton of times.

There is nothing on the box or the ads or anything before the game that said you would going to spend most of the game controlling a new trans character that has no ties to anything of the first game the only existence was to kill what the first game made.

Oh but hey there is a mp mode coming out before 2022 wait what is that? oh we made it its own game then cancelled it now go but the game again as we port it a few times.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

mkis0072d ago (Edited 2d ago )

What has Straley or Henig released since they left ND? Not a thing! stop scapegoating! Which of them is credited with co-writing a majorly successful show?

just_looken2d ago

@mkis007

You bring up Bruce Straley really? someone that gave us 4 generations of amazing games and was there in the creation of 4 legendary franchises but was tossed in the trash for the pos niel druckmann not 7? years ago

So yeah in those 7? years you right all he has done is get 2 awards one is a game award for a puzzle game he made oh boy right like for fuck sake's all niel has done is one game that was a overhyped fan boy orgasm underneath all that ps jizz was just a typical 5/10 game.

Then you drag Amy Hennig that poor woman was also kicked out then became this century's Brendan Fraser with her sexual misconduct information coming out.

We all know how horrible people are treated behind the scenes she might have been sexual attacked groped or something.

So yeah all she did after was battlefield hardline forspoken now that new marvel 1945 game but hey Brendan Fraser was a great actor till he also said he was sexually attacked just now he is allowed back in no doubt she also had to take a leave of absence out and or was forced out on ice.

Man there are way to many out there that look at niel at the new gaming jesus when all he had done is some work on uncharted 4 then tlou2

Oh also the tvhshow? for real all they did was use stuff from the 2013 game its like saying GOT was a 10/10 but never watching past season 3

-Foxtrot2d ago

@mkis007

That's highly unfair to them both

Amy Hennig got messed around working on projects that got cancelled by the publishers (EA) and then ended up on a awful game (Forspoken) where you had 4 other writers working on it which is just a recipe for disaster. She is now working on Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra. Not her fault she was pushed out of NaughtyDog, something both Nolan North and Richard McGonagle have both said in interviews.

Bruce Straley left after burn out, the rest of the story we don't know and will never know just like what happened with Amy Hennig. He decided to take a break and wasn't sure if he wanted to come back to gaming however he had an idea he wanted to make so he founded Wildflower Interactive, a smaller studio where they are currently working on a new game.

Tacoboto2d ago

@the obvious stain of a commenter

The trans character wasn't Abby. Try playing Part 2 instead of gatekeeping what you think Part 1 was about and meant.

Maybe try watching the show while you're at it, because you're terribly off with your opinion on that too

MajorLazer2d ago

Naughty Dog is better than all the MS studios put together.

derek2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@just he has been behind 2 of the greatest games ever made. Tlou2 was easily the best non-vr game made last gen. Losers just can't get over Joel's death, mixed with the usual console war nonsense. The fact that you so casually call him a sob shows how deranged some gamers have become about Drunkmann.

derek2d ago

@frosty, for people like Just, including anyone that can be categorized as being a minority in any kind of media is "forcing it down his throat " lol. I to don't care for poor "checking box" inclusion for inclusion sake but that was not the case with tlou2.

fr0sty2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

The pathetic part about it is, you can tell just_looken never even played TLOU, because that was the game where Ellie's sexuality was first brought to light... No "that was forced down our throats" to be said about that.

Only terrified folks in the closet that use their hatred as cover from outing themselves fear LGBT people that much. They exist. They will exist in all aspects of life, including popular media. Get over it.

just_looken2d ago

@all

Once again you drag out something like its a big win

Here is my old channel a clip of me playing TLOU on ps3
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Search my channel for more clips

Proof its my channel? look at this profiles banner that is 7yrs old then look at other vids on that channel like my bf3 clips to see my psn id. But knowing this group that is way to much work.

Also elle being a lesbian is another trump card? one dlc is all we got of that a dlc that took over a year to be tossed out.

Rainbowcookie1d 23h ago

Hey at least we have cookies to eat 😄

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Rangerman12083d ago

Glad he clarified it but i'm still somewhat skeptical. Plus, his comments about how Ai will revolutionize storytelling were still pretty iffy.

anast3d ago

No need to bow down, Stan your ground. The AI comments were gross though.

S2Killinit3d ago

Pretty excited as I read these. I just cant wait to see what ND is up to.

Export3d ago

put a chick in it and make her gay !

shadowknight2033d ago

Next they need a diverse couple, and perhaps some climate activists

StormSnooper2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I would love that if only to piss off all the lunatics. Lol

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Naughty Dog Boss Neil Druckmann Says AI Will 'Revolutionize' Development

Druckmann claims the tech could 'push the boundaries of storytelling in games.'

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Jin_Sakai4d ago

I’m more interested in what else he said.

“Neil Druckmann says new Naughty Dog title could ‘redefine mainstream perceptions of gaming’

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H94d ago

It will be something like "we erased gameplay all together it's just a movie now"

purple1014d ago

every time naughty dog make a game, you play it and get the feeling "this is not possible'

from the boulder running towards you in crash, on ps1,
to the massive open world of jak and daxter, on ps2,
to the QuickTime events sequences of uncharted on ps3/4

and now we will see what they do with ps5,

H94d ago

Press X for doubt at "PS5"

-Foxtrot4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Arrogant asshole who sniffs his own farts bigs up next game…sounds like typical PR to me

You know what I find interesting? Almost every site reporting this as the main title where the REAL interesting bit of the interview is Neil praising AI and saying it will be used to help push story, characters, dialogue and more.

It’s super shitty to big up AI especially when it comes to story telling and other creative elements.

senorfartcushion4d ago

Just because someone says this type of stuff, it doesn't mean that it's guaranteed to be good news.

You can say this about microtransactions. MXTs revolutionised the gaming industry.

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Levii_924d ago

Geez how full of themselves are these guys.

Einhander19724d ago

He also said it has "ethical issues we need to address" but of course that doesn't get the clicks.

CrimsonWing694d ago

I’m all for it. Cuts the time to make a game. Look, Hellblade 2 took 5 years to make, if AI can do that in half the time, as a consumer, I support it.

Chard4d ago

Things will get far sloppier brother

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The Witcher 3 REDkit Q&A - CDPR & Yigsoft Confirm Steam Workshop Support; Further Changes Planned

CD Projekt RED and Yigsoft have launched The Witcher 3 REDkit on PC. We interviewed both studios to discuss the release of these mod tools.

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