Mass Effect Andromeda Running At 1080p And 900p On PS4/Xbox One

BioWare GM, Aaryn, gives an update on the resolution and framerate of Mass Effect Andromeda at the current stage of development.

[Bigpappy]

They have enough info to know what the minimum specs will be. They just don't want to talk about Scorpio yet.

[bouzebbal]

DX12? Kinect power used to improve resolution/fps? Was that just BS?
I wonder how it will run on Pro.

[dragonaught007]

Recall seeing awhile back its running on ps4 pro at 1800p upscaled to 4k.

[dirkdady]

The fact they haven't even shipped the dev units out most likely indicate you won't see much support for titles coming out this year with exception to some first party titles.

[TheCommentator]

Dirk, the same thing happened to the PS4 and XB1 when they launched and they still had launch titles. The devs work around the specs given by the manufacturers until the actual dev kits go out, then the devs optomize their coding for the retail release.

As far as 3rd parties adding support for Scorpio, if they build their games for PC then they already have all the assets for 4K and most of the Win10/DX12 coding done already. If MS can get forza running on a PC with a handful of people in just a few weeks then I doubt it'll be much of a challenge to take advantage of Scorpio come this holiday.

[yeahokwhatever]

"4k assets" lol hahhaahhahahhahaahhaa

[TheCommentator]

Yeahokhwhatever, PC runs higher resolution texture data, AKA assets, than console does but some assets are actually 4K now. Seriously though, you could have just Googled "4K textures" and learned something about it... it would have been faster than typing such an immature post.

[Aenea]

@dmn666

"Ps4pro will be maybe 1080-1440p upscaled to 4K scorpio will be native 4k 30-60fps "

LOL, you will be in for such a rude awakening when the Scorpio releases!

Yes, games will be able to look better on the Scorpio than on the Pro but what you say is ridiculous, you think the Pro won't improve all that much (you even mention 1080p!) but somehow the Scorpio is able to go native 4k!
We've already seen how the game looks on the Pro, it's not native 4k, but it seems to be around 1800p (that's what they mentioned themselves I believe) and then upscaled. Could be the Scorpio manages to get to 2160p or slightly below that, still nice, don't worry!

You really should have a tad lower expectations, the Scorpio is not a native 4k console for ALL games, especially not when it has to be patched in after the game has been released already for a while...

@TheCommentator

Am sure MS already made Forza with making a port to Win10 in mind so that makes it already easier to do.

@bg116
Ahhh, the magic of UWP!
I just wish people knew what UWP actually was, then they would know it's just a Windows API for non-gaming specific functions (like opening and closing windows, UI elements, I/O, threading, etc., etc.) which can be used on several Win10 supported devices. It does NOT do any game specific things so porting games is NOT made any easier because of it.

[TheCommentator]

Aenea, the math isn't really that hard to understand. Scorpio is more than 4x more powerful than XB1. AMD says it takes less that 4x to go from 1080p to 4k. Therefore, every game that runs in 1080p, and possibly every 900p game as well, will be able to run at native 4k if the devs spend the time to modify the frame buffer to support 4k on Scorpio.

To summarize, nearly every game on XB1 can be made to be native IF the devs take the time to do so.

[Nitrowolf2]

You mean they have literally barely any specs to know?

What rumored ram info and that itll be a true 4k console, other than that what specs have actually been confirmed?

[n4rc]

What they know and what you know are two different things

[Aenea]

Yes, indeed, but they can't talk about what they know, so they also can't talk about what their game engine can do on a device they can not talk about...

Makes sense, doesn't it?

[Eonjay]

Doesn't this literally mean that Microsoft lied at E3. Phil said the dev kits were already with devs so they could get acclimated with the hardware. He lied. Your Jesus lied.

Reaction from the fanbase: 'Devs don't need devkits'... wow.

[XanderZane]

This says that Bioware didn't have one yet. We don't know what other developers may have. One company not having the dev kit doesn't mean ALL.

[Raiden]

@Eonjay

YOU FOOL,

Did he say the devkits were with all developers or the devkits are with developers, it makes a difference, so did he name the dev that recieved release kits, no, so where in his statement did he lie or specifically highlight the dev working on the device, you are a real DOUGHNUT 🍩........

[Eonjay]

If by some developers you mean Microsoft then yes I agree with you. Otherwise you are taking everything too seriously.

[SmielmaN]

Totally surprised Bioware doesn't have a Scorpio dev kit???? Would think they would be one of the first. Isn't the machine 9 months away from release?

[BlackTar187]

Wouldn't Bioware be one of the best to get a dev kit first? I mean Mass Effect in my eyes is an Xbox game and Mass Effect 1 was a huge success for MS. I would think a title of this size would be a huge priority for MS.

[Ju]

9 months? Was it announced for September?

[Bruh]

LOL who the hell is stupid enough to say that?

[Sparta07]

" As far as 3rd parties adding support for Scorpio, if they build their games for PC then they already have all the assets for 4K and most of the Win10/DX12 coding done already "😂
Omg are you guys serious?
Commentator, ain't you then one that said Xboxone doesn't need an upgrade that it can do vr though the cloud? 🤣
Bunch of hypocrites!! Look how much power matters now. Look how important a game is to be 4K.
Where 900p was fine and PS4 owners are crazy to care about 1080p.

[MRMagoo123]

it matters now cos they think they have a chance at higher rez than ps4 you see......

if there was no Scorpio console coming they would all not care about power or rez still.

[candystop]

What? You were the guys always wanting more power for bragging rights. It all started with the release of the much more powerful OG Xbox and weaker Ps2! Now PS4 launched with more power and identical features to Xbox finally and you guys act as if Xbox fans were insecure or something lol. I guess since you can't brag about power you can go back to bragging about sales! Sony has always had more games and exclusives but still it's time to get over your ego fellas! Scorpio is going to be a beast!

[XanderZane]

I care more about that it will run on for the PS4 Pro and the Scorpio. I can wait until they are ready to talk about it.

[Ceaser9857361]

we dont know much about scorpio yet so that may be one reason...

[Thunder_G0d_Bane]

its strange there's no gameplay walkthroughs for Andromeda and its out in 2 months. by this time they had showed many 10min gameplay vids of inquisition before its release...

Nobody has had hands on with the game yet and its out in 2 months..

The footage at CES raised more questions than answers about this game.

[NoPeace_Walker]

Maybe they are trying to follow the Bethesda style of reveal of to only show the game as close to release as possible to generate short-term hype.

[Artemidorus]

That's my point that it will be delayed they normally perform previews and spread thr word.

[andrewsquall]

Which means it will be going to gold status in the next couple of weeks too then. It really is bizarre.

@NoPeace_Walker Lol that is not a very good example at all. At least Fallout 4 got a media blowout at E3 2015 with an extensive look at the opening and then a trailer to show off how the Build a Settlement feature works and then also another trailer that shows off the combat and how it is still very over the top and comical. Even Fallout 4's debut trailer before E3 2015 is superior to all the video footage of ME Andromeda to date.

Andromeda's reveal and footage so far has been absolutely nothing like the way Fallout 4's was. Andromeda should be compared to Mafia 3 more and we know how it turned out (even though Mafia 3 still received plenty of character vignette trailers and more).

[cheri26]

I am definitely going to take a wait and see approach to this game. Definitely not pre-ordering it. They have changed WAY too much about what Mass Effect is.

[Eonjay]

EA has been doing some strange things lately... see Titanfall 2.

[Spike20XX]

Same with Resident Evil 7, but that's out in like 2 weeks. I suspect it's going to be crap.

[NoPeace_Walker]

The schedule release date of the Scorpio dev kit to developers is in February, according to sources. That is plenty of time to optimize Mass Effect Adromeda for the Fall launch of the Scorpio.

[demonddel]

Isn't the Xbox One version supposed to play on the Mighty Scorpio

[Neonridr]

yes and no, it will be like the Pro - Base PS4 comparison. Same game, but patched and optimized to take advantage of the more powerful hardware.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Like Neo said it is actually only one game, they're not making a specific game for the pro, the system simply updates to fit the software.

[BizarroUltraman]

Yes all xbox one games suppose to run on Scorpio.

[XanderZane]

Especially if the game is nearing completion on the PC using Win10.

[IamTylerDurden1]

They said it would run at 1800p on Pro.

[DMZ_P]

possibly, they didn't mention the Pro specifically in this interview

[dragonaught007]

They showed it running on pro at the sony conference in September.

[DMZ_P]

I know, but things could have changed. I'm sure they will talk more about it soon :)

[Bruh]

@DMZ
Already been stated to be at 1800p and then check boarded to 4K. I'm hoping the Pro version also comes with additional graphical enhancements as well

[Aenea]

@Bruh

Incorrect, because what you say is technically impossible. Checkerboard rendering is a rendering technique and not an upscaling method. If you want it to call it that, fine, fact remains tho that it can NOT change a native 1800p image to 2160p (simply put it doubles the number of pixels, 2 times 1800p is not 2160p). What it can do, and what it probably does for ME, is use checkerboard rendering to get to 1800p and then upscale to 2160p (and render the UI natively at 2160p and overlay it)...

[Sm3000]

Someone above said it's 1800p upscaled to 4k

[gamer7804]

kinda bad timing to release in march, i imagine a good amount of people will be waiting for the scorpio version.

[DeadlyOreo]

I'm not.

[81BX]

I am

[G20WLY]

^@ 81, What a surprise...lol

[MasterCornholio]

Most of the sales will be at launch though. I don't see why we should keep people waiting just so others can play the game when the new system comes out.

Besides nothing is going to stop people from waiting and buying the game on another platform.

They will either have to deal with the Xbox One S version or wait for the Scorpio version months later. That's the choice they have to make.

@Bizarro

Well if they really want to play the game the first time on the Scorpio they will have to wait.

"They will either have to deal with the Xbox One S version or wait for the Scorpio version months later. That's the choice they have to make."

I already mentioned this.

Also as for nobody is going to wait to play the game on Scorpio well that's what XxanderxX will be doing.

XXanderXX "Then am not buy till theirs a Scorpio Patch besides see no reason for them not to have a patch for Scorpio if they are doing one for the pro . Till they make efforts to patch for Scorpio the game sits on store & digital shelf's for me ."

@XXanderXX

You have every right to do that. However will you quit console gaming until Scorpio comes out?

Technically every Xbox One game can receive a Scorpio patch.

@XXanderXX

Wow I can't manage to do something like that. Anyways I wish you the best of luck.

[BizarroUltraman]

They dont have to wait to play the game. Most will have played it on their Xbox Ones and the hopefully there is a patch for when they upgrade to Scorpio.

[XXanderXX]

And I stand by my comment not buying or concerned till there's a Scorpio version or update for it .

[gamer7804]

I'm waiting as well, epic and lengthy games like Mass Effect i think warrant a wait, plus why spend full price on a game when you have other stuff in your backlog thats fun to play. Its just prioritization.

[XXanderXX]

I will forgo all Xbox games till a Scorpio version is made or a patch is put out so till then the Switch will be my gaming console of playing during that time .

@BizarroUltraman I can do as u mention but I have a hard time find reasons to replay games now as it is .
so I don't see myself replaying a game on Scorpio if already beat would rather enjoy the game and system performance.at the same time .

Crazy concept .......

@Dragonscale not really boring been a good while since i have played Zelda or a Mario game .

[Dragonscale]

@xand, does that apply to all new games next year? If so its gonna be very boring lol.

Edit, sorry missed your comment re switch. Still boring though.

[PFFT]

Im not waiting! Getting myself a Pro this March along side the Switch. Im sure ass hell aint wating to buy this game. Ill play it now on the Pro and when the Scorpio rolls out ill probably pick up the Xb1 version just to be ready for any update for it.

[81BX]

There you go! Problem solved. Once i beat a game though I usually wont pick it up for another console.

[jukins]

What good amount of people are gonna wait until the end of the year to play a game released in March on scorpio when a Scorpio patch or version was never confirmed.

[Neonridr]

so you think the Scorpio version will be the XB1 version and that's it? No enhancements at all? Jeez..

[Aenea]

@Neon

Did every game that released in 2016 get a PS4 Pro patch? Then why would you assume they will patch every game this year for the Scorpio?

I do hope they will, also hope they will keep patching more and more older games for the Pro AND Scorpio as well, but to assume they will when we can't possibly know is a tad premature....

[andrewsquall]

Its the same game that will run on Scorpio lol. Because as we all know, a game sells the majority of its shipped units 7 to 8 months after its launch day.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Lol no.

A good amount of people are waiting to play a game on a platform that hasn't released? A game that technically could be played at a higher resolution on the PlayStation 4 Pro and an even higher resolution on PC?

No

I'm sorry but I cannot really Define that as "a good amount" of people.

I just don't know who's waiting to play a game that already exists and that is capable of better performance on another platform.

So what you're telling me if they don't already own the system like Xbox One or PlayStation 4? So they're waiting at the ending of the year to buy something like Scorpio to get a resolution boost? Lol

I'm sorry but I just don't know how many people are seriously doing that. A smarter Choice might simply be to purchase an Xbox One and play all the games you like and just traded in for a Scorpio upon release.

I see no benefit to the consumer and actually waiting to play a game because of the enhancement of another platform because it actually questions why you even want to play the game if you're even deny yourself the title simply to get the enhancements lol

Is there a reason why you can't play it in March and just wait for the enhancements at another date?

Sad folks.

Just sad

[gamer7804]

TONS of reasons to wait. Play a superior version later due to scorpio. Patches will be out, gameplay fixes etc. Just look at FFXV, some people that bought day one have paused on playing it due to the content update adding and fixing things. I was really glad i waited on mass effect 3 to play the finished ending too. The obvious too is that there will be price drops later on and less expensive. Plus people have backlogs that they really want to get to, so its a perfect time to work on those.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@gamer- "TONS of reasons to wait. Play a superior version later due to scorpio"

You could play the superior version on PC......

Why wait?

I'm sorry but I don't see any necessity to technically wait to experience something that you could experience right now other than you wanting to actually play the Scorpio.

That has nothing to do with any user experience that has everything to do with you choosing to wait for a platform out of the love of that platform it has absolutely nothing to do with the consumer rating for an experience simply because that experience already can exist on another platform.

PC.

You could wait to play a limited experience, I'll play it on PC and have an experience far greater.

If there's one thing I've learned since becoming a businessman that time is actually more valuable than money I don't care the discount I don't care that you didn't purchase a current-generation platform yet, there is zero benefit to a person waiting to play something because of a different price simply because the time wasted is far more valuable then the difference of price.

You're talking about potentially waiting 10 months to play a damn game that you technically could play in March.

Even if you didn't own an Xbox one yet you could simply purchase it in March and just trade it in for the Scorpio I'm sorry but I just don't see the benefit to any person delaying their experience with a game simply to get a more powerful platform later on.

are you even playing the game to experience it in terms of the game play or to look at it? If that's the case you might as well just get a 4K TV and stream the entire game if the resolution matters that much to you lol

I'm sorry but I just don't think a bump and resolution is so important that I would delay in experience for 10 months lol

That is just beyond stupidity and lunacy. Mind you I'm using a vanilla PlayStation 4.

[Dragonscale]

@ed, its so funny. The xbots are abandoning the xbone a whole year before scorpio releases. Can't remember any PS4 fans doing that with the Pro.

Looks like xbone game sales are gonna tank this year.

[Kokyu]

No they wont, the majority of gamers are instant gratification gamers, thats why battlefield 1 has packs ypu can buy to unlock all the classes weapons etc they have that because people dont like to wait not to mention the majority of people arent going to wait 9 months to shell $600+ to play MEA, especially when the majority of console owners have Ps4's not xbones.

[corroios]

50 plus millions gamers awaiting to 200 or 300 thousand gamers lol

[XXanderXX]

Am waiting on a Scorpio updated copy.

[Liqu1d]

No there won't be.

[Ravenor]

It's the same game, it will be patched with Scorpio features when Scorpio is released, just like the Pro.

[jznrpg]

Why wait play it now

[XanderZane]

I won't get it at launch. Probably will get it in the Summer.

[Aenea]

So we should postpone every game to the end of the year because of the Scorpio??????

That's crazy!

Besides, I'm getting it for my Pro :)

[LIGATURE]

900p still and not real 4k on console smh.wait for next gen console for native 4k remaster 60fps

[dRanzer]

What?

[andrewsquall]

This is current gen. Native 1080p is the standard current gen resolution. This game will be running at the current gen standard 1080p resolution on 1 console anyway, well 2 if PS4 Pro is included in that. Anything above that (including for PC owners) is a bonus.
Next gen is next gen. Who would have thought it?

[Neonridr]

How about Native 1080p/60fps? Can we at least have that yet?

[bluefox755]

@Neonridr Resolution and framerate (especially), are determined by devs, not the hardware they create it for. That's why you see certain genres always release games at 60fps, no matter the cost to graphics or resolution. The reason you don't see a lot of 60fps, and you probably will not in future gen gaming either, is because the demand simply isn't there. If there was a real demand from gamers to play most games at 60fps, then developers would be making it happen with every game, even if they had to drop resolution or image quality. They would do this, because they want their product to sell, and if you want people to buy your product, you make it the way they want it. Right now, most people seem to care more about graphics than frame rate.

[bluefox755]

There's only a tiny fraction of gaming PCs that can do 4k at 60fps. 4k gaming is far from being mainstream.

[Tussin187]

I think ever since MS said 6tflops and 4k, now everyone has 4k. Not even close to the truth even on PC like you said. This obsession with 4k now is annoying.

[Ravenor]

I just bought a 1070 2 weeks ago, and 90% of things runs at 60fps at 4k. My buddy just bought a 4k Vizio P series TV for boxing day with his PS4Pro. Don't underestimate peoples appetites for a sharper image.

[Tussin187]

So I'm taking that you didn't play any games last gen then on PS3 or 360? You know those were 1080p machines but a lot of games where upscaled.

I just love how people's memory disappears when they think they are making a point.

If your that concerned about resolution and framrate then you need to game on PC because you have those options along with many others. You can even use the controller of your console of choice. Problem solved.

Please enlighten us when the last console that was available that ran all games at 60fps at its max resolution output. We will be waiting for your answer.

[Yohshida]

The Video they showed at CES didnt get me pumped at all. They need to show more of it. Its such a huge game and we know nothing about it and just saw some random gameplay.

[andrewsquall]

Its quite amazing how they manage to underwhelm with every showing of the game. Now I'm back to not bothering with it at launch at all. Then you have a game like Horizon Zero Dawn where its like "stop showing me footage of this game now, you sold me at its debut at E3 2015 when that ingame engine trailer transitioned straight into real gameplay" lol.

Yet we will see another article on N4G tomorrow that talks about games been shown early as being the problem.

[SaveFerris]

Agreed. This approach by EA/Bioware seems quite different to how the original Mass Effect was promoted. First it was months of talk about how amazing ME:Andromeda was shaping up without showing anything, and as we are two months away from the release, what they have shown so far doesn't measure up to the excitement I experienced with the original trilogy. I hope they do ramp things up soon.

[Yohshida]

probably the least amount of hype for any Mass Effect yet.

[MatrixxGT]

They should change their name to resolutionbolt.

[bouzebbal]

couldn't agree more

[badz149]

why? because they are telling the truth?

[Liqu1d]

Because they're always talking about it. Lower resolution is normal for the XB1, we really don't need to here about it all the time.

[badz149]

@Liqu1d

They are providing their readers with as much info as possible before a a game launch - resolution included. You're the one in the wrong here for taking their reporting as am offense towards your lesser platform.

[XXanderXX]

Then am not buying till theirs a Scorpio Patch besides see no reason for them not to have a patch for Scorpio if they are doing one for the pro . Till they make efforts to patch for Scorpio the game sits on store & digital shelf's for me .

[DMZ_P]

has nothing to do with efforts if they don't have the dev kit. They have the Pro dev kit.

[XXanderXX]

They are BS , the system has been indevelopement for sometime now Thiers no way they don't have one and especially with it releasing in 10 months in time for holiday shopping season.
They got one, no way MS would not have sent them a kit

[MatrixxGT]

They will patch it for Scorpio. This is just a nice way of beating around the post that they have NDA's.

[thekhurg]

Thought you weren't buying the game anymore?

http://n4g.com/news/1991838...

[XXanderXX]

Me not buying it doesn't mean i can't discuss or dismiss EA BS .

[Tussin187]

How about you wait until the thing is revealed before you blow a gasket. I'm sure there will be a patch. And of course the Pro will have one because it came out 2 months ago.

[XXanderXX]

And Scorpio will release after the game is released , so giving them plenty of time to patch if they aren't lazy or the game itself isn't delayed to holiday .

[Software_Lover]

Oh, the resolution game.

I played Lost Odyssey last night, and never even thought about what resolution it was running at. I just enjoyed it.

[TheColbertinator]

Great. Run along now.

[joab777]

Why do they mention Scorpio if there's no Pro patch! Please Bioware, add a Pro patch! Please!!!!

After playing FF15, Nioh and Horizon, this game will need and deserve a patch in order to enjoy its beautiful environmental splendor.

[objdadon]

A pro version was confirmed at the Playstation meeting in September.

[PFFT]

^THIS. The game will be PRO ready from the get go!

[XStation4pio_Pro]

how about ps4 pro?

[G20WLY]

Pro has been confirmed to run natively at 1800p and then upscale to 4k.

[XStation4pio_Pro]

excellent.

[Tussin187]

It was at the Pro reveal. Don't worry.

[NecoTehSergal]

Whatever happened to the Power of the Cloud. You can believe me that 10 years down the road I'll still be making fun of Microsoft/Xbox and Xbox fanboys with the deluded, deranged and hyped vapourware that was Microsoft claiming 'WE HAZ TEH CLOUD IT WILL MAKE EVERRYTHIN BETTAR!" and now we just don't hear any of that smokes-and-mirrors horse shit.

[InTheZoneAC]

900p, yummy!

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

It's no longer ever a choice for me anymore when it comes to single player multiplats. I'll be getting it on my Pro along with all future single player multiplat games that is until Scorpio releases.

[Dan_scruggs]

How will they ever live without the extra 180 p's?

[iistuii]

You all argue over resolution yet 30fps gaming is terrible. Upscale as much as you like, but 60fps is a must for me, that's why I gave up on consoles long ago..I can't see that changing even with the Scorpio, I'd not get 4K/60fps from my 1080 in AAA games, that's why I am happy with 1440/60 with ultra settings instead of 4K/30 medium....

[game4funz]

The frame rate is what I care about the most.
I wonder if this will be optimized well for pc.

[MetroidFREAK21]

As long it has a stable framerate and plays well on both consoles... That's what gamers should really care about

[Ulf]

What will it run at on Scorpio? That's about the time I will pick it up, so that's what matters to me.

[shiva1]

Wow.... From comments i see a big shift in how people are discussing about scorpio more than xbox one. People are forgetting to bash xbox one is it?

[ultimize]

Poor Xbone

[TheColbertinator]

Origin dl for me so I'm quite content with running it at 60FPS.

EA has been doing solid for me lately. I hope a new Dragon Age is near

[foxdie2k15]

All this talk about scorpio but microsoft have no fucken games please explain that to me no games no exclusives just all talk about all mighty powerful scorpio i rather have a less powerful system with tons of games and exclusives than the most powerful console with no games