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Seriously, Sony? #PatchDriveclub

Driveclub director, Paul Rustchynsky, confirmed to fans on Twitter that neither versions of Driveclub will support the Playstation 4 Pro.

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Activemessiah2805d ago

A LOT of games will not be patched.. I have yet to get a PS4... I'm just simply at this point looking to get the old fat one on a cheap price and be done with all this.

2pacalypsenow2805d ago

Or just buy the pro and play the future games that will take advantage of the Pro's extra power?

Artemidorus2803d ago

It's not mega power it's an upgrade to upscale Playstation games.

You really think 4.18 TFLOP is going to provide you mind blowing stuff then get ready for shattered dreams.

Forn2803d ago

@Artemidorus

I've been blown away by OG PS4 games, so I think I'll be good with more than double the GPU power.

freshslicepizza2803d ago (Edited 2803d ago )

which games will take advantage of the pro's power? that's where the messaging goes flat and driveclub wont be one of them.

SonyWarrior2803d ago

@Artemidorus i think you mistaken what you said will be true about the scorpio when that comes out it will show very little difference between it and PS4 Pro

BattleAxe2803d ago

This is what I love about Sony.....

abstractel2803d ago

The studio is defunct, why would anyone in their right mind think that their games would be upgraded to PS4 Pro?

Unspoken2803d ago (Edited 2803d ago )

Save yourself a couple bucks and buy the older PS4 when everyone unloads and you can get a good deal.

Money is better spent on the console that will see a much bigger difference in power, Xbox One -> Scorpio, and still be faster than the Pro, and will be able to utilize your new 4K TV with higher resolution games and UHD playback.

donthate2803d ago (Edited 2803d ago )

Or just get a Scorpio and be done with Sony. The whole DriveClub debacle is a slap in the face, and then Sony goes out and bars EA Access, prevents cross-play with Xbox, and prevents mods (like on Fallout 4) while raising the cost of PS+.

Now Sony won't even bother supporting their own new console, PS4 Pro. Sony truly didn't leave PS4 Slim/Standard user behind, they instead gimped PS4 Pro. I guess you get what you pay for.

Vote with your wallet people! Vote with your wallet! #4theplayers

Ju2803d ago (Edited 2803d ago )

@donthate...isn't your name cynical? Just saying.

Exactly. Vote with your wallet. Nothing wrong with the existing PS4 and a great opportunity getting into it when more used boxes will become available. And while the PS4 pro won't see immediate massive upgrades (it still runs current games faster and more stable, user interface and all that will benefit from the 500MHz clock upgrade also), framerate will be more stable, and dynamic resolution scaling will probably always reach to full 1080p (while there aren't really a lot of games out which do that) - without patching any games. And that for roughly $50 more if you are in a market for a new machine. Just add a 1TB drive to the entry level PS4 (or XB1S) and you would totally miss out on that for JUST $50 more. 500GB runs out fast, I wonder if I should upgrade my standard or just trade it in against a Pro. It does not have any negatives vs. the Standard model, but it will only get the benefits in the long run. Scorpio is a year out. If you guys are lucky. the Pro will prepare a 4K market by then so you will actually have games to play on that machine. Or are you saying by some magic, the Scorpio will all of a sudden run existing XB1 games with new feature without patching?

AuToFiRE2803d ago

Extra power? I have 10 TFLOPs in my PC

DigitalRaptor2802d ago (Edited 2802d ago )

@ Artemidorus

The ones who's dreams are going to be shattered by the reality of Scorpio are going to be the ones putting all stock into it 12+ months ahead of time (based on a single number and PR claims), and the same ones that believed in the lies of cloud processing and DirectX 12 to save the XB1 from inferior experiences. Sony's hardware-based checkerboard rendering method is going to bring the image quality of upscaled 4K so close to native that it's going to be painful. Just like it's painfully cringeworthy to look back on the embarrassments that argued "the power of the cloud", DX12 and hidden GPU secret sauce.

But I'm probably not going to have a 4K screen so I won't care and will continue to play amazing looking supersampled 1080p games, with richer scene detail and improved frame rates.

People can boast 4K all they want, but who didn't have a 1080p screen in 2013?
Can't say the same about 4KTVs.
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@ Donthate

Damn.... the PS4 Pro really is exposing the Xbox fanboys and undercover shills like nothing else. Lack of an EA vault, mods and cross-play that XB1 is not going to get anyway, is definitely going to annoy the small percentage of gamers that ACTUALLY care about it, to switch to Scorpio.

Honestly, what you gonna bring up next? Lack of a non-gaming UHD Blu-ray drive? How about things like, you know, GAMES.... the things that Sony has more of and that are better?
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@ moldybread

King Disingenuous Liar is back. Aside from the bunch of games Sony has announced, and the mandate for PS4 Pro games from October onwards..... the messaging for PS4 Pro is stronger and more honest than Scorpio's that's for sure. The flip-flopping executives of Xbox have talked about "uncompromised 4K", whilst saying that not all games will be 60fps (which is a compromise), whilst committing all their first-party games to native 4K over higher-detail and better frame rates (the things they claimed to value more before Scorpio was announced), and thus third-party devs will experience compromise too. Xbox as usual, has way worse mixed messaging, but you're not bothered about talking about it. You'd rather throw shade at Sony.

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Aenea2803d ago

You will want a 1TB at least, a Slim or old model with 1TB is $350/€350, for only 50 more you have the Pro...

All future games will have patches and older games still might get them anyways...

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C-H-E-F2803d ago

I'm about to put mine on ebay for 200$. Seeing that I will be upgrading to the pro. If interested PM me.

XanderZane2803d ago (Edited 2803d ago )

Ok, so let me get this straight. All of the PS4 games will in fact play on the PS4 Pro, but unless all these developers patch the games to take advantage of the PS4 Pro 4K upscaling and HDR10 support, all the games will still run and look just the original PS4 version. Is this correct? Is this what Evo Studios are talking about. They won't patch their DriveClub or DriveClub VR game to take advantage of all the PS4 extra features and horsepower? That's totally screwed for Sony if it's only a few of their 1st party titles that are getting patched.

Ju2803d ago

Why would devs want that? For games which still sell this makes sense, but for games which reached their sweetspot in sales (= they aren't really selling any more) means, developers have to put work in those games without getting compensated. Or are you telling me, you'd pay for a Pro patch?

I do expect older games will still run slightly better. If they are unlocked, they will run a higher framerate. If they use some dynamic resolution scaling (which would dip below 1920 pix per line), those games will most likely never dip. Not a massive upgrade, but it will still make it more stable. BF will be close to stable 60fps, for example.

So, if you are in for a new machine, there is really no reason not to get that model.

jholden32492803d ago

Wii U was "twice the power" of PS3 and yet, for all intents and purposes, they look pretty close to the same. "Twice the power" is paltry. 10x-20x.... That's when it'll start blowing you away.

Obscure_Observer2803d ago

There goes the hype for Driveclub running FULL EFFECT on PS4PRO :(

Respect for Paul and his team. They slip a bit at first then work very hard on Driveclub to make on of the best racing games of this generation.

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ziggurcat2805d ago

seeing as how the studio is defunct, i don't see how/why they would be able to work on something new for this game...

Majin-vegeta2805d ago (Edited 2805d ago )

Sony owns the IP...

@Ziggur Sony can just pass it off to another studio.

ziggurcat2805d ago (Edited 2805d ago )

Sony's not the developer.

edit: it's not that simple.

RogueOne2805d ago

Dude, did you even read this article?

The studio was defunct and still working on Driveclub VR. The creative director of DC said they would do the work but Sony hasn't asked.

RogueOne2805d ago

The original dev team!

(No one reads the articles, eh?)

Kribwalker2804d ago

It was a question that was also an answer. One of those, who do you think would make it, the same people making the VR version

Lamboomington2803d ago

Real shame. Imagine what this game could be like on PS4 pro

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Aloy-Boyfriend2805d ago (Edited 2805d ago )

PS Pro was just announced not too long ago... There are many games released already that I don't think they will all get patched either. Maybe only the most relevants will. Besides, Evolution was closed down. They should look for who would do the enhancement first

It is still possible, but like Paul said "they haven't been asked to do it yet," Propably because all the focus is being put in DC VR atm. Now Driveclub in HDR and 4k upscaled should look fkin outstanding, or maybe make the fps 60?

RogueOne2805d ago

The VR version is not getting PS4 Pro support...it's launching in October.

It's not happening unless we demand it.

yeahokwhatever2803d ago

I'd rather have a new motorstorm. Preferably back on an island or the desert. I'd accept a forest.

Germany72805d ago

I‘m still pissed about what happened with Evolution, Driveclub could be a great franchise with many sequels, we could have another Motorstorm too. But lets make another deal for multiplats like NMS and Everybody‘ Gone to the Rapture, right Sony?

Aloy-Boyfriend2805d ago (Edited 2805d ago )

Right! Let's also keep making more games with the other 11 studios they still have :×

Death2805d ago

Because having a 12th would have been too much? EVO didn't deserve to be closed after one bad launch. It would be interesting to see where Sony would be today if fans had a voice instead of blindly following every misstep.

Imalwaysright2803d ago

Fans? People that don't want the PS brand to be better aren't PS fans.

VoodooProject2803d ago

No one bought the game enough to keep the studio alive. Everyone opt for the free version and touted it was the best racing game but never supported it and bought the full version.

Truth.

For example. Look at No Man Sky. Not the greatest game, but was hyped and sold at $60. Made tons of money and company is still up and running.

game4funz2803d ago

Like @imalwaysright said.
Fans are the ones who critique sonys actions and demand better.

All the others are like you said, blind sheep.

Goldby2803d ago

@voodoo.

2 different cases here.
i bought drive club, yes some people waited for the free one.

Hello Games isn't owned by anyone, if they closed shop it would have been at their own dicision, not sony's

DeadlyOreo2803d ago

Lol at Death spewing troll comments on everything Sony related.

Maybe if you Microsoft fans didn't allow Microsoft to bend them over so much without speaking up they'd perhaps have a chance of outselling the PS4.

yeahokwhatever2803d ago

that launch was really, really bad.

KwietStorm_BLM2803d ago

lol people act like Sony closed the studio to put them on punishment. Sony doesn't exactly have endless funds laying around, and sometimes decisions have to be made to fit their financial responsibility. If you want to fund them, I'm sure they'd be willing to entertain your proposal.

DigitalRaptor2802d ago (Edited 2794d ago )

Ah yes.... Good old Death - the fanboy who pretends he's not.

Downplays Microsoft closing Lionhead Studio, where the staff didn't even know about their job losses or the studio closure until it was publicly announced it for everyone on the Internet to see. Those guys didn't deserve that treatment or for their game to be cancelled for nobody to be able to play it outside of beta trials. But... Microsoft.

Yet.... Talks about Sony closing Evolution Studios after one bad launch, even though Sony gave them plenty of notice for their redundancies and respectfully ensured that the whole team could go on in tact with the same company name and culture over at Codemasters, and make amazing racing games together again, on all platforms. Sometimes things don't work out, but there's a right way and a wrong way to handle closures.

And there's a clear cut way in which Microsoft handles things, compared to Sony. One is respectable and the other is despicable and rancid. You only have to look at their recent history, including things like expectations put on the developers of Phantom Dust and the ongoing Lionhead treatment.

Really, you even had the gall to LIE about the DriveClub VR project being cancelled despite no evidence supporting it. What does that say about you or the validity of what you go around saying about Sony and their direction? Not much in all honesty.

Would be interesting to see where Microsoft would be today if they let their studios make new IPs and trust in their vision over a number of years. You know... instead of closing down 8 of them earlier this year in one foul swoop and thus having the fewest first-party studios they've had in years. That is better for the Xbox brand though...... right?

What about all those delays of first-party Xbox games, that Sony gets all the attention for, but Xbox fanboys ignore in their own back yard? What about all the failed new IP this gen at the hands of Microsoft? What about the pre-requisite of being an Xbox fan in 2016, and having wait 10 months for a quality AAA exclusive to hit their box?

Seems like Xbox fans - like you Death - go blind for these things, and many would rather boast about a console they aren't close to knowing even a fraction about yet, and a non-gaming Blu-ray drive that makes use of a TV they didn't care about having until Microsoft told them it was the future, about 15 months ahead of time.
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@ Death (continued)

MotorStorm Apocalypse also had a poor & unfortunate launch too in 2011, and didn't do well for Sony.
MotorStorm RC's reception might be worth questioning too.
This is not "one bad launch", but why am I not surprised to see you pretending it is?

DriveClub VR wasn't reported by anyone that would have actually had a source. I thought you pride yourself on that. Usually you are the one to try and outsmart others by digging up facts and links, so that's not convincing of an excuse you've used either. You made it up yourself and/or spread a lie that was nowhere confirmed.

The rest of my post (of course) you don't wish to address, but deflect on me, because you know it's all true and yet you don't want to admit it, or expose the double standards of the Xbox fanboys that you love to defend. Reminds me of Gangsta_red, cause that's exactly what he does too. Focus on what you think you can outsmart, and ignore the rest and make the argument about good ol' DR, rather than your own disingenuousness.

Death2802d ago

@DR,

The closure of both studios sucked. EVO shouldn't have been closed after one bad launch no matter how you want to spin it. The launch of DC was horrible, but I don't regret buying the game. DC:VR was reported as being cancelled, not something I "made up". Glad to see its coming out.

The rest of your post is typical DR. Thanks for the reply.

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Kribwalker2804d ago

They used the money that could have kept evolution open to pay for call of duty early map packs and exclusive destiny strikes.

Shakengandulf2803d ago

Really hope motorstorm get a remake .

MoonConquistador2803d ago

Pacific Rift is still one of the best racing games on PS3. I'd love a new Motorstorm game

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Tussin1872804d ago

Well on the positive side, this kind put those Pro is needed for VR crap to rest. We've heard nothing but good things about this game and the whole time it's been running on OG PS4s.

Now the rest of you can complain about this article...haha. It's Friday and I'm tired of all the doom and gloom all the time. Happy Friday people!!

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Neil Druckmann clarifies true intent of new Naughty Dog game comments

Following a recent interview with Sony, Naughty Dog head Neil Druckmann claims the original intent was “unfortunately lost” in the process.

just_looken3d ago

He can take dog shit put it in a oven with seasoning then call it waistland cookies the sony fans will pay $40 a cookie give them a medal of cooking.

No mater what trash this sobs puts out/talks about it will sell.

The true fact in the 8 years sense uncharted 4 his first time in the main seat to a point all this "amazing" team did was get 2 dudes to fuck in a van then destroy a franchise they never created.

But being a port studio they are decent at they should keep in there lane at being just that a glorified port studio.

fr0sty3d ago

Salty Bots... gotta love it.

just_looken3d ago

@frosty

Over what? naught dog under his command is a glorified port team tlou2 was mostly tlou 1 asset's with the same game play loop but forced a trans down your throat.

I would gladly help pay for this blight and his team to get removed from gaming in general.

fr0sty3d ago

Seeing a LGBT person exist in a work of fiction isn't "forcing them down your throat". Nobody is forcing you to play it. Nobody is forcing you to agree with it. If you think that just seeing a LGBT person exist is "force", it sounds like they make you very uncomfortable, and maybe you need to be doing some serious reflecting on exactly why... looks to me like you're suppressing something with all that fear.

just_looken3d ago

@fro

When i think of the last of us i think of a group of survivors crossing the apocalypse wasteland with a growing bond between 2 people that end up with Joel making ellie his new daughter.

Then you fire up the 2nd one bang joel is dead oh that comic series? bang dead

Oh you want to continue all that we grew in the first one? na f that toss it in the trash

Now here is a trans woman so strong superboy would blush go out there kill all what made tlou1 then halfway get a forced sex scene that you can not skip between 2 dudes.

The gameplay? just like the first game the combat/backpack system crafting sytem? 0 changes/improvements.

I could go on but lets face it they copy pasted that tlou 1 assets bin a shit ton of times.

There is nothing on the box or the ads or anything before the game that said you would going to spend most of the game controlling a new trans character that has no ties to anything of the first game the only existence was to kill what the first game made.

Oh but hey there is a mp mode coming out before 2022 wait what is that? oh we made it its own game then cancelled it now go but the game again as we port it a few times.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

mkis0073d ago (Edited 3d ago )

What has Straley or Henig released since they left ND? Not a thing! stop scapegoating! Which of them is credited with co-writing a majorly successful show?

just_looken3d ago

@mkis007

You bring up Bruce Straley really? someone that gave us 4 generations of amazing games and was there in the creation of 4 legendary franchises but was tossed in the trash for the pos niel druckmann not 7? years ago

So yeah in those 7? years you right all he has done is get 2 awards one is a game award for a puzzle game he made oh boy right like for fuck sake's all niel has done is one game that was a overhyped fan boy orgasm underneath all that ps jizz was just a typical 5/10 game.

Then you drag Amy Hennig that poor woman was also kicked out then became this century's Brendan Fraser with her sexual misconduct information coming out.

We all know how horrible people are treated behind the scenes she might have been sexual attacked groped or something.

So yeah all she did after was battlefield hardline forspoken now that new marvel 1945 game but hey Brendan Fraser was a great actor till he also said he was sexually attacked just now he is allowed back in no doubt she also had to take a leave of absence out and or was forced out on ice.

Man there are way to many out there that look at niel at the new gaming jesus when all he had done is some work on uncharted 4 then tlou2

Oh also the tvhshow? for real all they did was use stuff from the 2013 game its like saying GOT was a 10/10 but never watching past season 3

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@mkis007

That's highly unfair to them both

Amy Hennig got messed around working on projects that got cancelled by the publishers (EA) and then ended up on a awful game (Forspoken) where you had 4 other writers working on it which is just a recipe for disaster. She is now working on Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra. Not her fault she was pushed out of NaughtyDog, something both Nolan North and Richard McGonagle have both said in interviews.

Bruce Straley left after burn out, the rest of the story we don't know and will never know just like what happened with Amy Hennig. He decided to take a break and wasn't sure if he wanted to come back to gaming however he had an idea he wanted to make so he founded Wildflower Interactive, a smaller studio where they are currently working on a new game.

Tacoboto2d ago

@the obvious stain of a commenter

The trans character wasn't Abby. Try playing Part 2 instead of gatekeeping what you think Part 1 was about and meant.

Maybe try watching the show while you're at it, because you're terribly off with your opinion on that too

MajorLazer2d ago

Naughty Dog is better than all the MS studios put together.

derek2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@just he has been behind 2 of the greatest games ever made. Tlou2 was easily the best non-vr game made last gen. Losers just can't get over Joel's death, mixed with the usual console war nonsense. The fact that you so casually call him a sob shows how deranged some gamers have become about Drunkmann.

derek2d ago

@frosty, for people like Just, including anyone that can be categorized as being a minority in any kind of media is "forcing it down his throat " lol. I to don't care for poor "checking box" inclusion for inclusion sake but that was not the case with tlou2.

fr0sty2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

The pathetic part about it is, you can tell just_looken never even played TLOU, because that was the game where Ellie's sexuality was first brought to light... No "that was forced down our throats" to be said about that.

Only terrified folks in the closet that use their hatred as cover from outing themselves fear LGBT people that much. They exist. They will exist in all aspects of life, including popular media. Get over it.

just_looken2d ago

@all

Once again you drag out something like its a big win

Here is my old channel a clip of me playing TLOU on ps3
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Search my channel for more clips

Proof its my channel? look at this profiles banner that is 7yrs old then look at other vids on that channel like my bf3 clips to see my psn id. But knowing this group that is way to much work.

Also elle being a lesbian is another trump card? one dlc is all we got of that a dlc that took over a year to be tossed out.

Rainbowcookie2d ago

Hey at least we have cookies to eat 😄

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Rangerman12083d ago

Glad he clarified it but i'm still somewhat skeptical. Plus, his comments about how Ai will revolutionize storytelling were still pretty iffy.

anast3d ago

No need to bow down, Stan your ground. The AI comments were gross though.

S2Killinit3d ago

Pretty excited as I read these. I just cant wait to see what ND is up to.

Export3d ago

put a chick in it and make her gay !

shadowknight2033d ago

Next they need a diverse couple, and perhaps some climate activists

StormSnooper2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I would love that if only to piss off all the lunatics. Lol

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Naughty Dog Boss Neil Druckmann Says AI Will 'Revolutionize' Development

Druckmann claims the tech could 'push the boundaries of storytelling in games.'

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Jin_Sakai5d ago

I’m more interested in what else he said.

“Neil Druckmann says new Naughty Dog title could ‘redefine mainstream perceptions of gaming’

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H95d ago

It will be something like "we erased gameplay all together it's just a movie now"

purple1015d ago

every time naughty dog make a game, you play it and get the feeling "this is not possible'

from the boulder running towards you in crash, on ps1,
to the massive open world of jak and daxter, on ps2,
to the QuickTime events sequences of uncharted on ps3/4

and now we will see what they do with ps5,

H95d ago

Press X for doubt at "PS5"

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Arrogant asshole who sniffs his own farts bigs up next game…sounds like typical PR to me

You know what I find interesting? Almost every site reporting this as the main title where the REAL interesting bit of the interview is Neil praising AI and saying it will be used to help push story, characters, dialogue and more.

It’s super shitty to big up AI especially when it comes to story telling and other creative elements.

senorfartcushion4d ago

Just because someone says this type of stuff, it doesn't mean that it's guaranteed to be good news.

You can say this about microtransactions. MXTs revolutionised the gaming industry.

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Levii_924d ago

Geez how full of themselves are these guys.

Einhander19724d ago

He also said it has "ethical issues we need to address" but of course that doesn't get the clicks.

CrimsonWing694d ago

I’m all for it. Cuts the time to make a game. Look, Hellblade 2 took 5 years to make, if AI can do that in half the time, as a consumer, I support it.

Chard4d ago

Things will get far sloppier brother

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The Witcher 3 REDkit Q&A - CDPR & Yigsoft Confirm Steam Workshop Support; Further Changes Planned

CD Projekt RED and Yigsoft have launched The Witcher 3 REDkit on PC. We interviewed both studios to discuss the release of these mod tools.

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