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Here's the game that keeps making E3 attendees sick

Sony's big-name PlayStation VR games are pretty disappointing. One is even making people feel sick to their stomachs.

Aenea2905d ago ShowReplies(5)
M-M2905d ago

This has me a little worried for VR as a whole. PSVR is supposed to be the middle point for those who don't want to pay a lot of money for a good/great VR experience. Since PlayStation is a widely known brand, people are expecting it to be "the thing" that drives new users to VR without it being bad(Google Cardboard). Simulator sickness in VR comes down to either frame rate, locomotion, game design, or both. The thing that has me worried about PSVR is the interpolation that happens when converting from 60hz to 90hz or 120hz. On PC, the Vive and Rift need to maintain 90FPS at all times or else it can lead to motion sickness if it drops below that(on the Vive it drops to 45 and interpolates the rest, which isn't good from my experiences with it). I haven't tried the PSVR yet so I won't say for certain, but I think that the simulator sickness people are experiencing mostly has to do with game design. Locomotion is an ongoing thing in VR that doesn't have that definite solution yet.

Nitrowolf22905d ago (Edited 2905d ago )

The thing is people get motion sickness even from regular games.

You should expect this to happen, It may be more common with vr since its new.

@"very few"

You know they ran studies on it, and it ranges, but it's estimated 10 to 50 percent of people get motion sickness. Heck I get motion sickness from games like mirror edge, a few fps, and so on. Motion sickness is pretty common

I did say we will see it more in VR thougb

yomfweeee2905d ago

Very few people get motion sickness from a regular game. A majority of people get it from VR games... silly comparison there.

k2d2905d ago (Edited 2905d ago )

"Here's the game that keeps making E3 attendees sick"

Attendees which several of whom have claimed Morpheus to be their first VR experience, or even having had bad experiences before.

No shit, people.. most people experience nautia their first time in VR. Some people are are just plainly liable to get motion sickness. This is the case with all current VR.

Bottom line is - most people are able to adapt to VR.

ShinMaster2905d ago

@ M-M

Here's what other site's had to say:
http://www.techradar.com/us...
http://www.tomshardware.com...

VR takes some getting used to when you put it on for the first time. It's common with all VR headsets. Some people adjust much quicker.

That said, CNET has been known for being somewhat biased before so I wouldn't put it past them to overblow the issue.

nix2905d ago

Yes... It happens. I got motion sickness from playing TLOU and UC4. I don't know what they did with their engine but i could only play for 1.5 hours per session. I don't get it when i watch it on YouTube.

That way I'm little skeptical about PSVR. But I'll probably pick it up to watch movies. At least I'll get something out of it.

Randostar2905d ago

I know 3 people who can't play fallout 4 because they get extremely motion sick from it.

donthate2905d ago (Edited 2905d ago )

k2d:

So how do you propose first time users experience VR?

Don't worry, you will feel sick, but keep at it a few times, and eventually it will go away! /s

That is like an instant turn off, and to ask people to further pay $500-600 for that (after games) is just plain insulting. I like VR, I think it will be a big thing, but in the future.

There are a lot of problems with VR, not just VR sickness, but mechanics like movement and so on. This is the exact same problem Kinect had, except Kinect can at least track your body. So far the only real actual mechanic that work is controller + headset in a seated environment.

This is not good advertisement Sony, pull it! Pull it NAOOOW!

hay2905d ago

I know how it goes with the VR. Everyone has that one friend who is heavily hyped for the tech, gotten Oculus dev kit, recommended it to everyone "cuz its so awesome" and then asked them if they want to buy it cause he's selling his.
I'm gonna skip this until its capable of running 8k resolution and somehow using natural light. I've gone near blind from all those LED displays and lightbulbs, not wanna kill my eyesight completely.

jjb19812904d ago

I also get sick from regular games. Games usually made by Ubisoft. Or is that just their business model? Anywho, some regular games do make me sick 😝

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joeorc2905d ago (Edited 2905d ago )

Ok' 1st of all unlike the OculusRift & HTC vive..PSVR has its refresh rate locked 🔒 to that of the refresh rate of the PSVR's screen..not to that of the game's refresh rate..thats why its Reprojection Is always on.

So every game that is going through output to the PSVR screen has its games own Refresh rate as what it is..so if its 60fps per eye it is still 60fps per eye..the reprojection is locked 🔒 @ a constant 120Fps that is what the refresh rate of the PSVR screen is. So when a game is passing through the reprojection it takes any frame drops and puts them back into the frame😉

It's like the PSVR is the river and its traveling at a constant speed but you have a motor boat with its own speed and any boaters inside iE: Is like a group of dropped. Frames 👈, but instead Reprojection because its always on those frames get pulled back into the boat before they are dropped. But not by the crew , but by the river itself😵

That's why its not upscaling , or any thing like that, the speed of the game is static to that of its native FPS , but with zteprojection it allows the simulation to remain as coherent. In throughput throught the rendering. Fro. Start to finish.

donthate2905d ago

Yeah, except those inserted frames whom are reprojection don't do translational motion, so it will appear like the items are flickering a little bit.

Reprojection is a very cheap computational processing technique to try and fix the deficit, but there is a reason why Oculus and Valve is trying to avoid it. They could have just said 60fps, then we re-project and it would reach a much wider audience with lower PC specs, but there is a reaons why they just went up instead. They didn't want to poison the well, by turning away customers due to bad VR experience and ruin the industry.

Ashunderfire862905d ago

Dude this is just one game that needs to be tweak. Most of the games at launch are fine with no discomfort like this.

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spoonard2905d ago

I think we got ourselves a nervous Nelly on our hands here, folks. lol

JackVagina2904d ago (Edited 2904d ago )

Theres nothing wrong the the fps. people are getting sick because they are walking in the game but not irl. this causes a dissonance between the player and your character. thats why so many vr games put you in a cockpit.

Raiden2903d ago

I once posted a comment about 6 months back about the trouble I expect from VR, BUT my comments were removed by THIS SITE, now I feel vindicated as what I said is happening, motion sickness is just the beginning next will be eye and brain issues, question yourself, how many hours we spend playing games, we can't spend that time in VR, imagine COD VR, how many hours do gamers spend in that game in one week, sitting too close to TV is meant to cause eye issues, now you have a TV on face. Good luck to you all if you choose VR.

What developers needs to do is create the games with choice, VR MODE, so gamers don't always have to play the game in VR MODE.

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Akasus2905d ago (Edited 2905d ago )

Like many playstation games...

Clunkyd2905d ago

Don't expect a reply, he/she won't have a legit answer.

trooper_2905d ago

Says the blatant troll.

You guys are too predictable now.

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Fist4achin2905d ago

Don't do it,... Next thing you know your stay at home ma becomes the next internet porn star. You've been warned!

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Casepbx2905d ago

It's RE7 if anyone didn't feel like clicking.

extermin8or2905d ago

Sure it was motion sickness and not just people getting scared hahaha tbf actually I can see why this is, I played the standard demo and the movement is abut odd I would imagine for a VR headset. Ofc you play RE7 in VR and you are actually insane lol

Ingram2905d ago (Edited 2905d ago )

Ah yes, this is the guy that tried a hololens and devoted several lines to say it wobbled and he had to adjust it all the time and then proceeded to say that he forgot to use the middle headstrap for it. The same guy that proudly traded a Mega Drive for a few baud modem. That genius. He now comes back with tweets from a couple of pseudonerd girls with plastic glasses as news.

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Evercade Alpha Reveals Affordable Mini-Arcade

This looks fun and affordable for fans of Retro Cabinet games.
Introducing Evercade Alpha, the first Evercade-compatible arcade machine. This bartop-sized arcade gives you everything you want in a home arcade machine with one big feature - full compatibility with the Evercade cartridge ecosystem.

darthv721d 17h ago

I like the Mega Man one more as it has a better variety of games. Strider, Carrier Airwing, Final fight... The other is all SF. Plus i like that i can pop in any of my evercade carts to play as well.

Garethvk1d 17h ago

As long as it is durable; it's a deal.

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Sony Says The PS5 Is Its “Most Profitable Generation To-Date"

During Sony’s recent business segment meeting and investor presentation regarding its game and network services, the PlayStation company revealed that PlayStation 5 is the company’s “most profitable generation to-date.”

It’s the top slide of the presentation, showing that in its first four years, the PS5 generation has already hit $106 billion in sales, having almost caught up to the PS4’s total $107 billion generated.

Operating income for the PS5 generation has also already surpassed that of the PS4, having now reached $10 billion.

ApocalypseShadow2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I wouldn't doubt it. They released a high quality system. A lot of high quality games from themselves and their support of 3rd party developers and indies. They released many high quality remakes and remasters. They released a high quality GaaS game going against the naysayers thinking Sony would abandon single player games. And they most likely are profiting a lot more than PS1, PS2 PS4 and the loss leading PS3 that drained all their profits.

Now, I'll wait to see what's cooking tomorrow. But can you use some of those profits to better support your high quality VR headset? Because, by supporting it, you can sell more games and more systems and make more profits?

jznrpg2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I want RPGs for PSVR2! Good ones of course

shinoff21832d ago

If it had some rpgs I would buy right fking now. It looks dope and alot of fun, but it's biggest game resident evil 4(maybe) I've got no interest in. I'm not a fan of racing games, even with that metro game coming i was never much into that series. Rpgs would be fantastic.

MrNinosan2d ago

Lemme know if ya wanna play some Zenith 🙌
Bought it at release, but haven't played it more than 1-2 hours but for sure on my "todo list".

Cacabunga2d ago

Normal when they released mostly cross gen games so far. That’s a lot of money saved..
We haven’t seen what PS5 can do yet. 4years in and PS4 games still look great to me. The gen leap isn’t quite there yet.

--Onilink--2d ago

The interesting metric for me is the $106billion in operating income/profit (not sales as mentioned in the article) reaching the same as the PS4 did with only half the consoles sold.

In particular because they all are supposed to be making the most per hardware sold after a few years when manufacturing costs are down.

So even putting inflation aside(and the higher console price), it is interesting that they could reach PS4 $ with just half the consoles sold.

Maybe there is more to the metric thats whats seen at face value, but they have clearly been making a lot more money than before on the software side (with also less games released I suppose, given its only been half the generation so far)

VersusDMC2d ago

The bulk of the money has to be coming from the 30% cut on all games and microtransactions. Especially on all the free to play juggernauts like genshin, apex, fortnight, etc.

--Onilink--2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@Versus

They are definitely making a lot on that for sure (which the $70 price increase factors into as well), but its not like many of those games werent around for the PS4 too.

They might be counting the gen as a whole and not just PS5 itself (so extra profit from PC sales, whatever that may be)

PS+ price increase and different tiers probably amount to part of that too.

But in general, its still quite a surprising metric. Half the time, half the consoles sold, less first party games released so far and still already making more of a profit than last gen is quite something, and as mentioned, there is probably more to it that we dont know, after all, since we are talking about operating income, all the expenses they have also factor into it, so it is also possible that they have found ways to significantly reduce that + all the means of increased revenue that appear to be factoring into the equation

All in all, just an interesting situation from a business perspective

porkChop2d ago

It's for the whole generation, so it would likely be including PC. They also make much more profit on digital sales vs retail, and digital is far more prominent these days. The generation also started at the height of COVID when everyone was home, spending far more money on gaming/hobbies. It makes a lot of sense for this gen to be more profitable.

Abnor_Mal2d ago

This will surely shut up all the new trolling accounts trying to spread lies and non facts in other articles comment sections before this article is posted.

Hofstaderman2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Obscurely, those trolls or troll will not show in these articles as the truth is contradictory to his or their orchard-sized daily dose of copium and hopium.

Tacoboto2d ago

Or... They're intentionally trolling you guys specifically. Because they know it upsets you so easily.

Name-dropping Orchard, after this many months? How long has it been and he's still in your thoughts?

Elda2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I'm quite sure the individual is reading these positive comments downvoting & seething at the same time. Edit: It just downvoted my comment...lol!!

Hofstaderman2d ago

No I'm entertained by this individual. I love unhinged people, they are so interesting lol.

repsahj2d ago

Wow! I am super impressed that in just 4 years, ps5 already caught up to the PS4's. Congratulations.

JackBNimble1d 11h ago

That happens when half of your games are cross platform. I'm still waiting to see what the ps5 is capable of, because they sure haven't pushed any limits.

And where are all these ps5 exclusive games?

sagapo2d ago

Not really surprised as Sony barely has any competition at the moment.

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Zotac To Reveal Their Portable Gaming PC At COMPUTEX 2024

This sounds like a very interesting mobile gaming PC. ZOTAC returns to COMPUTEX 2024 to showcase its biggest push yet into brand-new product categories from Handheld Gaming.

smashman982d ago

My last 2 gpus have both been zotac. No issues. I'm interested.

Garethvk2d ago

It will be interesting to see what they have to offer