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Microsoft is Being Misleading About the Xbox One Scorpio

Phil Spencer has stated that the Xbox One Scorpio will and won't improve the quality of games, on the same day.

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Godmars2902904d ago

When hasn't MS been misleading?

From Milo and Kinect to the Win 10 update notice on my F***King taskbar, YES, I think MS is misleading!

darthv722904d ago

they may be misleading as to what the scorpio can really do. 6tf could be a placeholder as he did elude to the possibility of expandable consoles to increase performance over time.

And that little icon goes away when you update to W10. It's good you should try it. If you don't like it you can revert back if less than 30 days. I updated and did not go back as i like it way more than 8.1 and even 7.

To each their own i guess.

Godmars2902904d ago

Yet to commit to figuring out how to remove/turn off their information gathering, and remembering to turn it off again with each update.

GottaBjimmyb2904d ago (Edited 2904d ago )

I don't see any contradiction here at all. This is first world whining taken to the highest level I have ever seen.

He said

1. Scorpio is being designed to fully function in 4k and that is the primary intent from Microsoft with their hardware.
2. Some devs will decide to improve framerate or other assets instead of going 4k, and MS will not hinder them in that aspect.
3. Older games will run better and upscale to 4k, but unless they add the feature it will not be 4k natively. (unless that ability is added later, which is more likely with those who have already made 4k PC versions of the games, as phil says)
4. If the game has a dynamic resolution, it will automatically run at the highest buffer available, which with Halo 5 (phil's example) is not 4k, but 1080p and upscale from there. They can add the ability for native 4k, but it will not run 4k natively on a game coded to run 1080 on xbox one without a patch or update specifically for that function.

Pretty simple concepts, anyone should be able to understand quite easily. Sad that a "gaming news" site couldn't take 2 minutes to actually read the statements in context instead of intentionally misinterpreting them and diluting their meaning. 1st grade reading comprehension but pro-grade conspiracy theory skills.

@eonjay
Legitimitely almost everything in your comment is 100% and verifiably false. Ironic to complain about a company being misleading, by creating an entirely misleading (and largely false) comment, or article in the authors case.

NegativeCreepWA2904d ago

The author apparently doesn't know the difference between the s and the scropio.

cleft52904d ago

The biggest misleading/lie Microsoft is spreading is that no one is going to be left behind. It is up to developers if they want to develop games exclusively for the Scorpio or not. Microsoft has made this optional. If the Xbox One was a huge success than developer would continue to support it for sure. But since it wasnt a huge success, why would developers spend resources to ensure that their game works on the Xbox One as well as the Scorpio. Certainly the bigger companies, will but it wont be long until we see titles that are only on the Scorpio.

Sony is wisely mandating that all PS4 games have to work on the PS4 Neo as well as the PS4. So developers don't get the option. This means consumers dont get screwed over by shifty developers like Activision and EA to name a few.

Then you have the other reality, that the games exclusively for the Xbox will also be on Windows 10. So you don't even need the Xbox Scorpio to play these games. Which makes you question the point of the Xbox Scorpio at all. Sure people will buy the console, heck people buy the Steam Box that doesn't make it useful.

You can talk about specs all you want, but the reality is that you can buy a RX 480 for $199. So if you brought a PC in the last 2 years you can turn your PC into a gaming machine for cheaper than a Xbox One S. People that are concerned about AMD tech might want to keep in mind that the Xbox Scorpio uses AMD tech for its games. So that is hardly the issue. Plus Windows 10 is a great boon for AMD cards.

darthv722904d ago

@cleft, so which do you prefer. A company that mandates that everything moving forward must all be equal or one that allows the developers the choice?

Generally when I hear that question there is usually a voice of reason saying choice is always good and restrictions are bad. What you just laid out is that sony will have restrictions and MS will have choice (from a simple generalization).

the cold hard fact is that both of these newer systems will have their own form of exclusivity in the fact that they offer the ability to play the games at better than regular levels. just as with the 3ds and games that can take advantage of the "new" specs vs playing the same game on a regular model and how its performance tends to lag. Or when Sony released the improved PSP 2000 with double the memory (among other improvements) and games released moving forward would play fine on the 2000 and 3000 but when played on a 1000 they would lag.

Improvements of any kind are in fact exclusive to those systems that offer them because they arent something that can be applied to the previous iterations.

TheRealHeisenberg2904d ago

@ darthv72

Perfectly put sir.

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Eonjay2904d ago

Xbox is a great console but Microsoft tactics of lying and false PR have lead them to where they are.

Announces they wont be releasing a console with minor improvements then
Announces the S Model

Announces S Model then
Announces the S model is irrelevant about an hour later.

Announces that all software and accessories work everywhere in the Xbox One family then
Announces S model won't support Kinect or VR

Says Super powers are needed for VR then
Demos Samsung Gear VR at their conference.

Accuses Sony of not showing PS4 at reveal, then
Announces a console with nothing to show. Not even a tech demo.

darthv722904d ago (Edited 2904d ago )

Some of your info is off. The S model supports Kinect. MS is even offering a free adapter to those who have kinect and getting an XB1S.

They never said there wouldn't be improvements to the XB1 but only that they wanted to do bigger leaps in improvements (aka the scorpio).

The S has a few undisclosed improvements but the only ones made public is supporting HDR and UHD movies.

And they werent demoing the Gear VR more so than demoing Minecraft and it's updates for people who play on mobile.

As to the nature of the slim, given that they are sitting at roughly 20 million original units sold. That is about where the PSP 1000 was at when Sony announced the new and improved 2000. Moving forward, they sold way more 2000 units than 1000 and I'm betting MS will do the same with the XB1S.

Eonjay2904d ago

@darthv72

Thanks for the corrections and insight..

mrkbizzle2904d ago

You're probably biasing yourself based on your hate for the system or ure getting to much misleading info from this website and websites like it, not Microsoft

343_Guilty_Spark2904d ago

S is not irrelevant. People who don't care about high end graphics won't bother with Scorpio.

DivoJones2904d ago

Did you bother to fact check anything you just posted? Maybe you should write a full article on some opinion site for clickbait.. I think you have the gift.

Software_Lover2904d ago (Edited 2904d ago )

S model will support Kinect.

The base Xbox One model doesn't do VR, and since the S is a base Xbox One model it will not either.

Samsung Gear VR was used for Minecraft.

Edit: but, I understand your grievances. PR/Marketing gets on my nerves all the time.

This wasn't a "Scorpio" reveal. It was just an announcement. It wasn't a show, in February, specifically to reveal the console.

Kiwi662904d ago

He would not have had to correct you in the first place if you had looked at all the info first instead of only parts of it

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hells_supernova2904d ago

My PC went full rouge 2 nights ago and automatically updated from a pirated version of 7 to windows 10. I was worried to say the least.

However it worked and I figured since it installed itself may as well give the free Forza Beta a shot.

n4rc2904d ago

I fix up PCs for coworkers and I've been using a old win7 zip to then get win10 on a freshly formatted drive..

Always works without issue..

ZeroX98762904d ago

they're not misleading at all, they made it very clear. They got a powerful console coming up and almost all of it's games is coming out on PC platform.

they made it very clear for me. I'm just not buying the so called "Scorpio" and I'll be upgrading my GPU on my windows 10 PC to play all the great games they showed at E3! :D

This is the single best conference ever from MS period! almost every games of the X1 coming out on PC???? I'm in!

n4rc2904d ago

Same.. GPU prices are crazy low now and with win10 being on everything, I'll probably move back to pc gaming..

But who knows.. still alot to be said for a fixed console game vs an open ended pc port.. Scorpio will probably run games better then a similarly specd pc due to optimizing.. plus I'll miss getting achievements on 3rd party games lol..

Fin_The_Human2904d ago

Godmars is still fighting the good fight for the Sony crusade.

Some people never change after so many years on N4G you still hate MS with a passion.

Out of you and Morganfell I don't know who is more of an extremist when it comes to loyalty to a company who only wants your money.

FlyShootRaceSims2904d ago

Dantesparda or PancitCanton perhaps? Or you can lump them all together, your choice.

TheRealHeisenberg2904d ago

I agree 100% but that goes both ways as far as extremist go when it comes to the "console wars".

shiva12904d ago

Really... Dude u need to join that entertainment site as a writer. You will get the job instantly if you show this comment that u made here. Belive me it will be an excellent career for u.

marquisray2904d ago

Everybody no sony was waiting for Microsoft to show the next xbox. Sony could not play off of microsoft specs so they were quite. If Microsoft would've shown something sony would've tried to say something better it was so funny lol

marquisray2904d ago

Just face it all of your ps4 will be weaker lol

Godmars2902904d ago

So is the Xb1 you currently own, the slim you might buy will be the, and the next system isn't out for another year and my very well sell at twice the price. For the cost will only perform a bit better than a PS4, look a bit better, and have access to the same games.

I have no idea who you think you're rubbing it in on.

n4rc2904d ago

Only a bit better huh? Lol

Pathetic attempt

Khaotic2904d ago

@goddmars no the PS4 is only a bit better than the Xbox 1. The Scorpio will be 3 to 4 times more powerful than PS4 and twice the power of the rumored specs of NEO.

Bigpappy2904d ago

What ever. They are releasing a MONSTER next year. Who doesn't want a monster?

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Dabigkahuna762904d ago

Only people who is mislead is Sony clowns who needs to know why this console is gonna be the most powerful console ever created they act like some insecure small hands Donald Trump looking mofos

Goldby2904d ago

you make it sound like thats the last console to ever be created. also we dont knwo what sony is offering with the neo, as they stated, it isnt ready to be shown, aka they are still working on it, improving it. MS laid down their trump card way too earliy in my opinion.

Dabigkahuna762904d ago

Microsoft wouldn't have said it if they didn't know what Sony was bringing trust me plus I'm sure Microsoft announcing The Mighty Scorpio is the reason why you not hearing about the Neo just yet it was a Sneak attack similar to what Sony did Microsoft with the PS4

DeadlyOreo2904d ago

@dabigkahuna76

Microsoft must love people like you, suckers who fall for anything they dish out. They must look at people like you and see dollar signs.

Ben Dover2904d ago

@Dabigkahuna

Sony mentioned it wouldn't show the Neo several WEEKS before E3. Microsoft didn't had to do anything, yet instead still managed to shot themselves in the foot.

But based on your use of "The Mighty Scorpio" I'm communicating with an 8 year old.

Goldby2904d ago

@Reddurt

Ya man just wait, Halo 34 will show off the true power of the cloud and scorpio Forza 18 will show opff the 4k rendering at 60fps /s

RiseofScorpio2904d ago

better than waiting 40 years for Gran Turismo 7.

Khaotic2904d ago

God of war 99 will be sick, persona 59 will be off the chain, and killzone 44..well it's still gonna be bad

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Kryptix2904d ago (Edited 2904d ago )

LOL Man, stop being a goon, yo.

I remember when people thought the Xbox One was secretly more powerful and they shut themselves up after years of games looking and running better on PS4.

We don't know anything about the Neo or even about the Scorpio and people are fanboy retarding the f@!2 out.

Rather get 2 AMD 480s, to be honest than any new upgraded console till the next generation comes out. I'm sure those will be backwards compatible and you all are gonna be salty for upgrading 3 times in 10 years, wasting over 1k.

And people say PC gaming is expensive...

Dabigkahuna762904d ago

"Me stop being a goon" Man you sound like a Republican as long as you doing it it's ok but when others do it it's terrorism foh

MachuchalBrotha3162904d ago

Thats what I like to see...its the gaming rebellion.

Kryptix2904d ago

LOL Republicans this, US politics that.

This is gaming... Stop putting your anger on us because your favorite communist party candidates aren't gonna get elected.

Dabigkahuna762904d ago

Jenny woman I was just saying how sissies be acting around here Sony folks trying to bully mofos around because they opinions different from yours

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fanboysmackdown2904d ago

More nitpicking bullshit articles.....N4G seems to love them.

MatrixxGT2904d ago

Yeah I'm about to take a break from this site for a few weeks. I come here for actual news, maybe some interviews from developers about what they showed off at E3. All it's been is Clickbait articles catering to insecure fanboys. As much as Sony showed at E3 where is the talk from the developers about the games and the approaches they are going in? At least MS showed a game then gave us insight to it. Then the next one and so on.

Is there a better site for actual information and news?

Paytaa2904d ago

Yeah one downside on N4G post-E3 is the articles that literally serve no merit for news and multiple duplicated articles that have the same content but differing titles.

The worst is the never ending spew of "This Is Who Really Won E3...".

I just don't click them and try to find some articles serving legitimate post-E3 news.

MatrixxGT2904d ago

@Paytaa

So true, I'm wondering what Sony saved at E3 still?

Was there going to be another terrorist attack and then Sony showed God of War and they ran away?

Unspoken2904d ago

Opinion pieces shouldn't be front page. Separate it into its own section.

PFFT2904d ago

Fanboys i tell you. Always looking for ways to downplay others. The Scorpio will be an amazing console. And you can bet your ass that 1080P will also benefit from this beast!

shiva12904d ago

Even the article is wrong.... Its bullshit on top of bullshit.

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Neil Druckmann clarifies true intent of new Naughty Dog game comments

Following a recent interview with Sony, Naughty Dog head Neil Druckmann claims the original intent was “unfortunately lost” in the process.

just_looken3d ago

He can take dog shit put it in a oven with seasoning then call it waistland cookies the sony fans will pay $40 a cookie give them a medal of cooking.

No mater what trash this sobs puts out/talks about it will sell.

The true fact in the 8 years sense uncharted 4 his first time in the main seat to a point all this "amazing" team did was get 2 dudes to fuck in a van then destroy a franchise they never created.

But being a port studio they are decent at they should keep in there lane at being just that a glorified port studio.

fr0sty2d ago

Salty Bots... gotta love it.

just_looken2d ago

@frosty

Over what? naught dog under his command is a glorified port team tlou2 was mostly tlou 1 asset's with the same game play loop but forced a trans down your throat.

I would gladly help pay for this blight and his team to get removed from gaming in general.

fr0sty2d ago

Seeing a LGBT person exist in a work of fiction isn't "forcing them down your throat". Nobody is forcing you to play it. Nobody is forcing you to agree with it. If you think that just seeing a LGBT person exist is "force", it sounds like they make you very uncomfortable, and maybe you need to be doing some serious reflecting on exactly why... looks to me like you're suppressing something with all that fear.

just_looken2d ago

@fro

When i think of the last of us i think of a group of survivors crossing the apocalypse wasteland with a growing bond between 2 people that end up with Joel making ellie his new daughter.

Then you fire up the 2nd one bang joel is dead oh that comic series? bang dead

Oh you want to continue all that we grew in the first one? na f that toss it in the trash

Now here is a trans woman so strong superboy would blush go out there kill all what made tlou1 then halfway get a forced sex scene that you can not skip between 2 dudes.

The gameplay? just like the first game the combat/backpack system crafting sytem? 0 changes/improvements.

I could go on but lets face it they copy pasted that tlou 1 assets bin a shit ton of times.

There is nothing on the box or the ads or anything before the game that said you would going to spend most of the game controlling a new trans character that has no ties to anything of the first game the only existence was to kill what the first game made.

Oh but hey there is a mp mode coming out before 2022 wait what is that? oh we made it its own game then cancelled it now go but the game again as we port it a few times.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

mkis0072d ago (Edited 2d ago )

What has Straley or Henig released since they left ND? Not a thing! stop scapegoating! Which of them is credited with co-writing a majorly successful show?

just_looken2d ago

@mkis007

You bring up Bruce Straley really? someone that gave us 4 generations of amazing games and was there in the creation of 4 legendary franchises but was tossed in the trash for the pos niel druckmann not 7? years ago

So yeah in those 7? years you right all he has done is get 2 awards one is a game award for a puzzle game he made oh boy right like for fuck sake's all niel has done is one game that was a overhyped fan boy orgasm underneath all that ps jizz was just a typical 5/10 game.

Then you drag Amy Hennig that poor woman was also kicked out then became this century's Brendan Fraser with her sexual misconduct information coming out.

We all know how horrible people are treated behind the scenes she might have been sexual attacked groped or something.

So yeah all she did after was battlefield hardline forspoken now that new marvel 1945 game but hey Brendan Fraser was a great actor till he also said he was sexually attacked just now he is allowed back in no doubt she also had to take a leave of absence out and or was forced out on ice.

Man there are way to many out there that look at niel at the new gaming jesus when all he had done is some work on uncharted 4 then tlou2

Oh also the tvhshow? for real all they did was use stuff from the 2013 game its like saying GOT was a 10/10 but never watching past season 3

-Foxtrot2d ago

@mkis007

That's highly unfair to them both

Amy Hennig got messed around working on projects that got cancelled by the publishers (EA) and then ended up on a awful game (Forspoken) where you had 4 other writers working on it which is just a recipe for disaster. She is now working on Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra. Not her fault she was pushed out of NaughtyDog, something both Nolan North and Richard McGonagle have both said in interviews.

Bruce Straley left after burn out, the rest of the story we don't know and will never know just like what happened with Amy Hennig. He decided to take a break and wasn't sure if he wanted to come back to gaming however he had an idea he wanted to make so he founded Wildflower Interactive, a smaller studio where they are currently working on a new game.

Tacoboto2d ago

@the obvious stain of a commenter

The trans character wasn't Abby. Try playing Part 2 instead of gatekeeping what you think Part 1 was about and meant.

Maybe try watching the show while you're at it, because you're terribly off with your opinion on that too

MajorLazer2d ago

Naughty Dog is better than all the MS studios put together.

derek2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@just he has been behind 2 of the greatest games ever made. Tlou2 was easily the best non-vr game made last gen. Losers just can't get over Joel's death, mixed with the usual console war nonsense. The fact that you so casually call him a sob shows how deranged some gamers have become about Drunkmann.

derek2d ago

@frosty, for people like Just, including anyone that can be categorized as being a minority in any kind of media is "forcing it down his throat " lol. I to don't care for poor "checking box" inclusion for inclusion sake but that was not the case with tlou2.

fr0sty2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

The pathetic part about it is, you can tell just_looken never even played TLOU, because that was the game where Ellie's sexuality was first brought to light... No "that was forced down our throats" to be said about that.

Only terrified folks in the closet that use their hatred as cover from outing themselves fear LGBT people that much. They exist. They will exist in all aspects of life, including popular media. Get over it.

just_looken2d ago

@all

Once again you drag out something like its a big win

Here is my old channel a clip of me playing TLOU on ps3
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Search my channel for more clips

Proof its my channel? look at this profiles banner that is 7yrs old then look at other vids on that channel like my bf3 clips to see my psn id. But knowing this group that is way to much work.

Also elle being a lesbian is another trump card? one dlc is all we got of that a dlc that took over a year to be tossed out.

Rainbowcookie2d ago

Hey at least we have cookies to eat 😄

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Rangerman12083d ago

Glad he clarified it but i'm still somewhat skeptical. Plus, his comments about how Ai will revolutionize storytelling were still pretty iffy.

anast3d ago

No need to bow down, Stan your ground. The AI comments were gross though.

S2Killinit3d ago

Pretty excited as I read these. I just cant wait to see what ND is up to.

Export3d ago

put a chick in it and make her gay !

shadowknight2033d ago

Next they need a diverse couple, and perhaps some climate activists

StormSnooper2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I would love that if only to piss off all the lunatics. Lol

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Naughty Dog Boss Neil Druckmann Says AI Will 'Revolutionize' Development

Druckmann claims the tech could 'push the boundaries of storytelling in games.'

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Jin_Sakai4d ago

I’m more interested in what else he said.

“Neil Druckmann says new Naughty Dog title could ‘redefine mainstream perceptions of gaming’

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H94d ago

It will be something like "we erased gameplay all together it's just a movie now"

purple1014d ago

every time naughty dog make a game, you play it and get the feeling "this is not possible'

from the boulder running towards you in crash, on ps1,
to the massive open world of jak and daxter, on ps2,
to the QuickTime events sequences of uncharted on ps3/4

and now we will see what they do with ps5,

H94d ago

Press X for doubt at "PS5"

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Arrogant asshole who sniffs his own farts bigs up next game…sounds like typical PR to me

You know what I find interesting? Almost every site reporting this as the main title where the REAL interesting bit of the interview is Neil praising AI and saying it will be used to help push story, characters, dialogue and more.

It’s super shitty to big up AI especially when it comes to story telling and other creative elements.

senorfartcushion4d ago

Just because someone says this type of stuff, it doesn't mean that it's guaranteed to be good news.

You can say this about microtransactions. MXTs revolutionised the gaming industry.

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Levii_924d ago

Geez how full of themselves are these guys.

Einhander19724d ago

He also said it has "ethical issues we need to address" but of course that doesn't get the clicks.

CrimsonWing694d ago

I’m all for it. Cuts the time to make a game. Look, Hellblade 2 took 5 years to make, if AI can do that in half the time, as a consumer, I support it.

Chard4d ago

Things will get far sloppier brother

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The Witcher 3 REDkit Q&A - CDPR & Yigsoft Confirm Steam Workshop Support; Further Changes Planned

CD Projekt RED and Yigsoft have launched The Witcher 3 REDkit on PC. We interviewed both studios to discuss the release of these mod tools.

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