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A sober look at Microsoft's FFXIII multiplatform announcement

Being one of the many PS3 owners who felt a mix of anger and utter disappointment last night I saw to it that I'd describe how I feel after the anger worn off and I see things a bit clearer. The anger become distrust, and the disappointment has become disgust. I'll explain now.

I was angry yesterday that Sony has let yet another exclusive fall through their hands. It's less about how the exclusive was lost, but more that I was looking forward to FFXIII really taking advantage of the PS3's power. I've seen what happens when games do this and anyone who has knows exactly what I'm talking about. Multiplatform games never turn out as good as exclusives, let alone on the PS3. But after considering the fact that we get Versus still(which I've always found more appealing for it's darker tone and atmosphere) made me less pissed. Plus it's still exclusive in Japan, where it will make it's biggest impact. MGS is far more popular in America than final fantasy and it's affect here was definetely something, but minimal.

The anger REALLY started to wear off however, when Warhawk dev dylan posted on the PSblog about the warhawk updates. It reminded me that I have ALOT of games to play AND games to look foward to. While I've always been excited for FFXIII, I've been thinking about other games like Heavy Rain and Infamous far more than it. My distrust however, has formed because I no longer FULLY believe third party exclusives anymore. I still don't think MGS4 won't show up on the 360 because of kojima, but I'm not 100% sure about it. Luckily, like nintendo, Sony has a really good group of First party support to soften their fall as always. So I'm still a happy gamer.

My disappointment has become disgust...at Microsoft. This will probably piss off a lot of people, but I really don't give a crap. Microsoft's E3 showing was flat out terrible, it wreaked of nintendo's 07 showing and only proved microsoft's new focus would be the more profitable casual audience. The dashboard was nice, but that's about it. No new games to be excited about, no alan wake, no halo, nothing, but final fantasy's announcement. And this announcement was a "bad for sony" announcement that didn't include a "good for microsoft" followup. Here's why:

When I heard the announcement I wanted to sell my PS3. I knew I'd regret it, but I was just that mad. However, I didn't want to BUY another console afterwards. For a brief moment I just wanted to stop playing video games, I don't know why, but I did. That's bad for sony, because as a PS3 owner I'm the one buying the games and DLC and accessories and all of that. And losing a member of the playstation family is always bad. However, I also now decided that I will NEVER buy a 360. No matter what. Microsoft just really pisses me off now.

They've pretty much made a habit of specifically targetting PS3 exclusives in order to get ahead. Even 360 owners are seeing this. When FFXIII was announced multiplatform I didn't see the super "HAHA!'s" I'd have expected. Everyone, even 360 owners knew that this was seriously not the time to strike a nerve with PS3 owners. Microsoft's first party support is so terrible they rely 100% on 3rd parties. This makes for a better relationship with 3rd party devs because Microsoft needs them, while nintendo and Sony don't. They're throwing around money to get around instead of investing in talented dev studios and building their empire brick by brick the way that sony and nintendo have. They want a playstation, but they think that THOSE specific games make up the playstation experience.

When GTAIV arrived, all that happened was that in result, it barely pushed Microsoft and Sony's consoles at all. GTA is a far more popular franchise than Final Fantasy in America and Europe(which are the only places FFXIII's 360 version will exist).

I tell you sober, that the day after the announcement I've become even more of a sony loyalist. Seeing microsoft make those fanboyish comments about stealing the PS3's exclusives made me realise just exactly what I love about the PS brand. Sony introduces new  faces to the playstation family every gen and always knows how to impress, they provide variety and have a reputation for showing everyone the light in the darkest times.  While I've always said I'd be willing to buy a 360 before, that's no longer true. I'm willing to buy a wii and other nintendo products because I respect them, but I will never, I repeat, NEVER buy a microsoft console.

Feels good to be sober again.

Hagaf225800d ago

i agree with you, while i have NO interest in ff at all, never been big on turn based rpgs, it is hard to watch another ps3 exclusive slip away. i dont feel it has much to do with the companys as much as it has to do with the hardware. sony changed the whole hardware design, while microsoft didnt change, making games for the 360 is just like last gen/pc gaming, where the ps3 is more complex, so the added cost of making a game for ps3 can be overcome by making the game for 360 which cost little extra. so while this stings us ps3 owners, its going to be a growing trend, i think sony dropped the ball when they released the ps3 and didnt give enough support to game developers, which pissed alot of them off and turned them away.... looks like i may just have to pick up a 360 this fall.... i know i said it but while ps3 games end up on 360, we arent seeing the likes of gears over on the ps3...

Hueco Muendo Leader5800d ago

for opening the window for 180 trash talkers to talk trash to us ps3 owners, cause prior to this they had no trash to mention, thanks again square

RadientFlux5800d ago (Edited 5800d ago )

I hope you don't keep your anti-microsoft comments to a minimum in news articles. As in the past I've enjoyed reading some of your comments and would hate to have to put you on ignore.

Valin5800d ago

.......... Your disgusted that Microsoft made no new title announcements and then go on to say that,
Quote: I will never, I repeat, NEVER buy a microsoft console.
You make no sense with that statement! If your never going to buy one then why write about the 360? The only reason your upset is because your a blinded fanboy who will never see both sides of the argument because of your ridiculous brand loyalty!

To put it simply your like an apple fanboy who refuses to put office on his mac, even though it will make his life easier he doesn't do it because he's a Fanboy.

So you sir may be sober but because of your fanboyism you'll never see clearly.

SkolarVisari5800d ago

The thing is this really, where is the Microsoft brand? I am getting increasingly annoyed at Microsoft not because Sony is losing exclusives but because Microsoft isn't gaining any! FF was already huge before the Playstation came out, and the only reason it did not come out on the N64 is because of Nintendo's cartridge mistake. Ratchet and Clank, Jak, Crash Bandicot, Sly were all new IPs for PS1. I don't see the same kind of thing on the 360 three years in. I do see "Me too" though. It's got to the point where I just want to shout "MAKE YOUR OWN MAN!!" I haven't seen or heard anything about a Jade Empire sequel, nor have I heard anything about KOTOR 3. When I look at the 360 I see a cheaply built version of the PS3 that has a decent chance of crapping out on me (Hasn't happened yet thankfully.), with overpriced hard drives that make absolutely no financial sense compared to off the shelf hard drives. Not to mention a relatively expensive online component that is virtually identical to the PS3's.. (All of the chat functionality on live has nothing to do with the service and is really just a properting of the console operating system. The fee they charge you has nothing to do with that functionality in reality.)

velaxun5800d ago

I wholeheartedly agree with you Shadow Skill. I look at Nintendo and characters like Mario, Link, Samus, the Pokémon, all come to mind. Glance over at Sony and you think of Crash Bandicoot, Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, Sly Cooper, and you get all these characters that define the console. With Nintendo we've got games like Super Smash Bros., Mario Cart, on Sony there's Tekken, Gran Turismo. They've got Console defining games. You then look on over to the 360 and you see a lot of what used to be playstation. I mean yes, kudos and acquiring these titles, but seriously MS needs to come up with something original to define their console. The only thing I can really come up with is Master Chief. I look at their other games and just see franchises that used to reside on PS2 or Nintendo. Or I see imitations, Splinter Cell, Metal Gear... Forza, Gran Turismo....

Angelitos5800d ago

I hope SONY does something about the FF13 exclusivity

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Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Combat Director Wants Final Part To Offer Players "Even More Freedom"

The Final Fantasy VII Rebirth combat director has expressed that he wants the final part in the trilogy to offer players "even more freedom".

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gold_drake16h ago

i wonder if where gonna be able to jump

-Foxtrot10h ago

I love the game so far but please don’t make the final part a mini game fest

Everytime I get to a new part in Rebirth it’s “mini game time”

Inverno4h ago

Hope ya don't mind me asking since it seems like you've played it, did it feel like a decent step up from the last game or was it more like the best from the last but more polished?

CS74h ago

It makes Remake feel like a demo.

9.5/10 imo. And I think the “mini games” did a great job of adding variety to the gameplay. Purely optional as well.

-Foxtrot3h ago

Here's my thoughts

I think it's a big step up from the first instalment, I'm enjoying it way more.

I thought keeping it just in Midgar was silly, it felt dragged out and it didn't have much variation in terms of the scenery.

However with Rebirth, as soon as you get out of Kalm you have a big world to explore and it's great to just wander round and explore.

Now that I'm half way in though, despite still liking what I'm playing, the gameplay loop is now starting to slow down on me. I've got to a new region and I'm like "Yaaay...need to go and find those towers again, oh look another special beast marker, is that a bird I see in the distance? Better follow it to another Mako Crystal"

It's like....you know how Peter Jackson was only supposed to have two Hobbit films then Warner Bros wanted a third film so he stretched the second film out as much as he could so he could keep stuff for the third film making a trilogy? Yeah it feels like that, so these mini games are a part of that overall gameplay loop to keep us going and stretch the game out overall so they have something for the third and final game.

I personally think you could have had the first instalment get you out of Midgar and through to Grasslands / Junon and the second game finishes things off.

Becuzisaid4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

I had a weird cycle of love/hate for all the mini games as I played through. At first I really hated the seeming need to check all these boxes while exploring the grasslands. I didn't enjoy the Gilgamesh quest initially, and thought Queen's blood was fine but didn't want to commit to it. The side quests didn't really grab me either.

Then for some reason everything in Junon region changed my mind and I did pretty much everything. I liked most of the side quests, I actually liked playing fort condor (didn't care for it in the intergrade dlc). And my interest for completing these quests stayed pretty much through to Cosmo Canyon.

Then they added that horrible Lifestream memory/battle mini game and I started getting so burnt out of it all. I just wanted to do the story. I didn't do any side quests in neibleheim and beyond except for the summon. I abandoned Gilgamesh.

So what I'm saying is I would like the third part to go back to the focused progression from remake. Keep the mini games to the gold saucer. Start the game snowboarding if you want, but from there keep the story rolling.

-Foxtrot2h ago

That's funny you say that because I did everything in the Grasslands but once in Junon I started to slow down a little until Corel where by the end I was burnt out. I'm still currently going but I'm just doing what I can while things keep getting thrown at me.

I would have preferred half of these mini game side fillers / collectibles for some really beefy side quests that really adds onto the world of FFVII.

Inverno2h ago

Sounds like they hadn't really figured out what they wanted to do with Remake and this one is more of what they thought of doing which is probably why they're dragging it out to make a trilogy. Disappointed to hear it has towers cause man do i hate towers lol. It's been a while since I've played the first and it'll be a while longer to play the sequel, but it sounds like I'll enjoy it. 7 really impressed me especially after being disappointed with 15, felt like Square finally realized that FF was THEIR big franchise again.

Tacoboto34m ago

How many hours are you into it at this point?

My friend got like 20-30 in and pretty much quit because of its mini game era. He loved and basically binged through Gran Blue compared to Rebirth

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MetroidFREAK213h ago

As long as it comes out on PS5 to have the entire series on one platform, do whatever you want

franwex2h ago

The combat is my favorite thing about Rebirth. Would be really cool if they can improve it even more.

Knightofelemia1h ago

I hope after FF7 Square will either give a new FF game the remake treatment. Or give some of their older titles a remake treatment like Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross, even Xenogears.

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Kingdom Come Deliverance 2's Scope Was Impacted by Xbox Series S Limitations

Wccf tech writes: "Kingdom Come Deliverance 2's scope was impacted by the Xbox Series S hardware limitations, as developers could only make a game that was 25% bigger than its predecessor."

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-Foxtrot10h ago

This is the issue with things like this

Xbox Series X is apparently to MS the worlds most powerful console

However the Series S is obviously a limitation because it’s underpowered and developers have to go for parity.

So what’s the point of the world’s most powerful console if you are holding third party developers back? They aren’t going to push themselves if they have to think about the weakest console.

The issue wouldn’t be as bad if it was just Xbox but you are also affecting the PS version aswell

I think developers need to start just taking advantage of a console and if one of them can’t do X Y and Z then f*** them…why should the others suffer. What’s MS going to do? The bigger the franchise the least chance MS are going to tell them to f*** off. Baulders Gate 3 seemed to have stood their ground and suddenly their “strict” parity rule didn’t really matter. We suddenly got super optimisation efforts for the Series S that got things sorted.

anast6h ago

I agree, and the sad part is use normal folk saw it the second they announced their plans.

Abear212h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Agree 100% this is why I didn’t want the M$ Monopoly, now PS5 version will be held back too.

If PS5 Pro comes out and Series S is still a thing it’ll be interesting what differences and what devs choose to do. Really hoping Rockstar pushes the PS5 pro with GTA6 and we get the best version possible.

outsider162430m ago

Good ole S indeed. Everyone knew this all along. S was holding games back...Now where the hell is Orchard i want a word with him.

LucasRuinedChildhood10h ago

More info from the author of the article, I think: https://www.reddit.com/r/ki...

Quote:
"1) I was told this info from the producer of the game Martin Klíma.
2) He specifically said the game will have only one mode.
3) And this mode is 4K 30 on PS5/XSX and 1440p 30 on XSS.
4) He said that the game is already running north of the 30 FPS cap so the performance should be stable on launch, much better than KCD1.
5) The limitation was XSS because of the 10GB memory. He said that's why they wanted to make the game 25% larger.
6) Speculation on my part: the output resolution is probably upscaled and the reason why there won't be a 60 FPS mode is because it'll most likely be very CPU heavy, like Dragon's Dogma 2 for example."

Doesn't seem like they're adding a 40fps mode on PS5/Series X for launch even if they can handle it.

Sgt_Slaughter6h ago

I'd much rather have 1440p/60fps or even 45fps. Having just one, even with the Series S in mind, is disappointing.

franwex5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Remember when xbots were adamant that the series s won’t hold back the gen?

Microsoft just needs to let go of the mandatory parity. Who cares if your grandma doesn’t understand that a game cannot be played on the S. It’s not like it she can buy you a physical game for it anyway. Before buying the game put up a notice that it only works on series X. If you’re buying for a friend-allow for a refund.

Bam. Everyone is happy. Most series s owners are for casuals that want Game Pass anyway and most likely don’t purchase most games.

If the developers want it to run on S, let them figure it out.

Jin_Sakai5h ago

“During the event, the Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 producer also revealed that on PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X, the game will run at 4K resolution and 30 frames per second“

Another “creative decision” right? 🤦‍♂️

IHateNate4h ago

Amateur hour. Very incapable developer.

Outside_ofthe_Box4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Since you're not an amateur and clearly know more than them, can you over there and help get the game running on the S without having to sacrifice their true vision. Us gamers would really appreciate you using your wisdom for good 🙏

IHateNate4h ago

Thousands of games run just fine on S.

But Kingdom Come is the game that can’t. Must be one hell of a game!

franwex2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Thousands of games run on PS4 and on Switch. If developers want them to run on those systems. Fine. Those two platforms still get new games. Sony isn’t making studios also make a ps4 pro version, or Nintendo a wiiu version. Microsoft technically is.

IHateNate1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

If games like Alan Wake 2, GTA6, COD, hellblade all run on S, no excuse for this 100x smaller and 100x worse looking game to be held back.

outsider162426m ago(Edited 25m ago)

"Thousands of games run just fine on S.

But Kingdom Come is the game that can’t. Must be one hell of a game!"

Kingdom come 2 runs just fine alright. Its the SCOPE that they want. They had to cut it because of the stupid S series. Hellblade2 ran just fine too..but im pretty confident if it was just the X in mind, the scope of the game would have been much bigger.

IHateNate1m ago

So their scope is greater than that of GTA6 and warzone? Wow. Crazy

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HexGaming Launches Kickstarter Campaign for Hex Phantom

Custom Controller Company HexGaming launched a Kickstarter campaign for their latest pro controller, Hex Phantom. - IS

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