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Enough is Enough: Killzone 2 coverage

Earlier today I could not comprehend how so many people can WANT a game to fail. Why people would prefer that progression of the art be paused for a generation was beyond me. I've realized though, that in order for you to understand this, you have to learn to be honest with yourself about how this industry works.

Take the PS3 for example, at(and before) it's launch it was hailed as a failure and nothing more. So many "journalists" pegged it as a failure that they really had to bite their tongues when they were proven wrong. While they could admit to being wrong, there's also a limit to HOW wrong they'll allow themselves to be. After talking that much crap, being proven wrong in nearly every aspect is a definite stab at your pride and credibility.

For PS3 owners, it's been apparent for a while now that their games have to meet a much higher standard than Xbox 360 games to be considered.. good. The 360's standard for "good" is basically to simply master what's already available. It doesn't have to bring anything new, it just has to do whatever it's doing perfectly. The PS3 however, doesn't enjoy this benefit.

The PS3 is subjected to FAR worst cynicism and it's games need to be twice as good to get half as much respect. Being honest with yourself, you know for a fact that had Uncharted been on the 360, people would constantly tote it as yet another AAA exclusive for the 360 and they'd pretty much praise it to death. Since it's a PS3 exclusive however, it's viewed under a magnifying glass and pretty much any "flaw" they find becomes ammunition for points taken off. The 360's games pretty much need to be just flat out bad in order to get points taken off.

The bad part about me saying this is that it can't be said without  sounding like a conspiracy theorists. Look at killzone 2, NO console game has ever came anywhere near it, so what do they badmouth? The gameplay. It's called "generic". Even though it has a first person cover system, vehicles, destructable enviornments, body part specific hit detection, it's still just a generic shooter. Game's like COD4 and halo can simply be "point and shoot" games, but noooo not killzone 2. It doesn't innovate enough in order to be considered good.

I've seen people bounce back and forth between "it doesn't look that good" and "it's fake, it's from a gaming PC". Killzone 2's success causes an inbalance between the PS3 and 360. If killzone 2 turns out to be a good game, than the two consoles aren't on equal ground anymore. And if they're not on equal ground, it makes the 360 look bad. And if the 360 looks bad the JOURNALISTS look bad. Believe it or not, there IS a bias. Not specifically created out of favor of another console, but out of protection to their own credibility. At least thats what I believe. Your thoughts?

Evil0Angel5804d ago (Edited 5804d ago )

what did GTA4 add ? FRINDS??!! is that enough to score the game perfect !!!!! no (but the basic gameplay element are very popular and peiople loved it , they cannot just go and change it now .and that why it called GTA not TBW or whatever).

while KILLZONE sequel for below average game(very broken, need to fix it).

the first one had amazing visual but the gameplay was heavily crtzied ( especially A.I) .... that where most criticism come from.

the question is : what drive you to hype up this game ?
for me is the graphic .is that enough to give a game HIGH SCORE, Definitely NO.BUT IT is a reason to EXPECT the game to score high =

Gears of war looked amazing that is why it caught my attention : but the amazing cover system / active reload /first game to have co-op over the full campaign(drop in, drop out) / most addictive and hardcore Multiplier(my opinion) /revive each other(co-op) /chainsaw, excisions, blank fire is what made the game score high

MY personal opinion : i cannot see this game failing ( at least it will score more than the first one ) .. the new edition of Cover system / new animation / amazing graphic things to start with.

regarding the rest of the blog : i think all you mentioned are as a result of sony hyping the pS3 (sooooooo much ) as super computer = do you still remembers the UT3 footage shown in E3 2005 , there is part where i could not distinguish whether it is a real character or CG .
Motorstorm/DMC4/Tekken all had phenomnal visual at E3 2005
every game @1080p @ 120fps...
when it was relased in 2006 it was @ 600$ and compared to what the 360 offered it looked dead but sony own it 2 thier loyal fans who bulled them out of it

as for Uncharted I played the game and it is definatly AAA.I also love NINJA GAIDEN 2 althogh it scored an avaerage of 82%. reviews are personal opnion and since they are personal opnions they are influnced buy that person bias and thought : this is the reason i do not care about reviews but decide for my self (this is why i visit gaming website to c what feature the game will have ect ect)

ape0075803d ago (Edited 5803d ago )

guys,how many times I've heard "reviews are opinions" that's bullsh!t

a REVIEW should be a PRODUCT REVIEW not AN OPINION ON THIS GAME WETHER THE REVIEWER LIKE IT OR NOT

good comment btw

ape0075803d ago (Edited 5803d ago )

" Being honest with yourself, you know for a fact that had Uncharted been on the 360, people would constantly tote it as yet another AAA exclusive for the 360 and they'd pretty much praise it to death. Since it's a PS3 exclusive however, it's viewed under a magnifying glass and pretty much any "flaw" they find becomes ammunition for points taken off. The 360's games pretty much need to be just flat out bad in order to get points taken off"

that is the best thing I've ever heard in a long time,yes there is bais and it's corroupting the gaming industry,I hate how many users here and on other sites,they are clearly brainwashed by the media

+bubble for you, I wish I can give you 100 bubble

exellent artical AAA.

opsdaddy5802d ago (Edited 5802d ago )

While I agree with your main points, I think it's still important to consider how Sony cut its own throat prior to, and immediately following the PS3's launch. This generation's console war was Sony's to lose, as they were miles ahead of Microsoft and Nintendo, both in terms of console sales AND game exclusives.

Unfortunately, Sony's arrogance about the PS3's vastly superior technology, and their initial unwillingness to price the PS3 with mere mortals in mind made them a big target for media criticism. And that, my friend, was well-deserved.

That being said, I do believe the media dug an absurdly huge crater for Sony to climb out of, and it's a testament to Sony's tenacity and market savvy that the PS3 has bounced back so quickly.

Now, going into E3, I think Sony DEFINITELY has regained some serious momentum, but I may have to take out a second on my house in order to pay for the long list of SUPERB games coming out over the next year (Killzone 2, Far Cry 2, Little Big Planet, Fallout 3, Mirror's Edge, Resistance 2, The Last Remnant, Star Wars: The Force Unleashed, Bioshock, MotorStorm 2, maybe even... dare I say... FF XIII). Seriously folks, we've got some INSANE gaming coming our way!

So, as PS3 fans, let's rejoice in Sony's roaring comeback, while occasionally revisiting why they entered this race with a whimper. A little humility will go a long way in a console war that is really just beginning to pick up steam...

beavis4play5802d ago

good article. you put thought into it and voiced what every ps3 owner thinks.

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Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Combat Director Wants Final Part To Offer Players "Even More Freedom"

The Final Fantasy VII Rebirth combat director has expressed that he wants the final part in the trilogy to offer players "even more freedom".

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gold_drake17h ago

i wonder if where gonna be able to jump

-Foxtrot11h ago

I love the game so far but please don’t make the final part a mini game fest

Everytime I get to a new part in Rebirth it’s “mini game time”

Inverno4h ago

Hope ya don't mind me asking since it seems like you've played it, did it feel like a decent step up from the last game or was it more like the best from the last but more polished?

CS74h ago

It makes Remake feel like a demo.

9.5/10 imo. And I think the “mini games” did a great job of adding variety to the gameplay. Purely optional as well.

-Foxtrot3h ago

Here's my thoughts

I think it's a big step up from the first instalment, I'm enjoying it way more.

I thought keeping it just in Midgar was silly, it felt dragged out and it didn't have much variation in terms of the scenery.

However with Rebirth, as soon as you get out of Kalm you have a big world to explore and it's great to just wander round and explore.

Now that I'm half way in though, despite still liking what I'm playing, the gameplay loop is now starting to slow down on me. I've got to a new region and I'm like "Yaaay...need to go and find those towers again, oh look another special beast marker, is that a bird I see in the distance? Better follow it to another Mako Crystal"

It's like....you know how Peter Jackson was only supposed to have two Hobbit films then Warner Bros wanted a third film so he stretched the second film out as much as he could so he could keep stuff for the third film making a trilogy? Yeah it feels like that, so these mini games are a part of that overall gameplay loop to keep us going and stretch the game out overall so they have something for the third and final game.

I personally think you could have had the first instalment get you out of Midgar and through to Grasslands / Junon and the second game finishes things off.

Becuzisaid4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

I had a weird cycle of love/hate for all the mini games as I played through. At first I really hated the seeming need to check all these boxes while exploring the grasslands. I didn't enjoy the Gilgamesh quest initially, and thought Queen's blood was fine but didn't want to commit to it. The side quests didn't really grab me either.

Then for some reason everything in Junon region changed my mind and I did pretty much everything. I liked most of the side quests, I actually liked playing fort condor (didn't care for it in the intergrade dlc). And my interest for completing these quests stayed pretty much through to Cosmo Canyon.

Then they added that horrible Lifestream memory/battle mini game and I started getting so burnt out of it all. I just wanted to do the story. I didn't do any side quests in neibleheim and beyond except for the summon. I abandoned Gilgamesh.

So what I'm saying is I would like the third part to go back to the focused progression from remake. Keep the mini games to the gold saucer. Start the game snowboarding if you want, but from there keep the story rolling.

-Foxtrot3h ago

That's funny you say that because I did everything in the Grasslands but once in Junon I started to slow down a little until Corel where by the end I was burnt out. I'm still currently going but I'm just doing what I can while things keep getting thrown at me.

I would have preferred half of these mini game side fillers / collectibles for some really beefy side quests that really adds onto the world of FFVII.

Inverno2h ago

Sounds like they hadn't really figured out what they wanted to do with Remake and this one is more of what they thought of doing which is probably why they're dragging it out to make a trilogy. Disappointed to hear it has towers cause man do i hate towers lol. It's been a while since I've played the first and it'll be a while longer to play the sequel, but it sounds like I'll enjoy it. 7 really impressed me especially after being disappointed with 15, felt like Square finally realized that FF was THEIR big franchise again.

Tacoboto1h ago

How many hours are you into it at this point?

My friend got like 20-30 in and pretty much quit because of its mini game era. He loved and basically binged through Gran Blue compared to Rebirth

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MetroidFREAK214h ago

As long as it comes out on PS5 to have the entire series on one platform, do whatever you want

franwex3h ago

The combat is my favorite thing about Rebirth. Would be really cool if they can improve it even more.

Knightofelemia2h ago

I hope after FF7 Square will either give a new FF game the remake treatment. Or give some of their older titles a remake treatment like Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross, even Xenogears.

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Kingdom Come Deliverance 2's Scope Was Impacted by Xbox Series S Limitations

Wccf tech writes: "Kingdom Come Deliverance 2's scope was impacted by the Xbox Series S hardware limitations, as developers could only make a game that was 25% bigger than its predecessor."

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-Foxtrot10h ago

This is the issue with things like this

Xbox Series X is apparently to MS the worlds most powerful console

However the Series S is obviously a limitation because it’s underpowered and developers have to go for parity.

So what’s the point of the world’s most powerful console if you are holding third party developers back? They aren’t going to push themselves if they have to think about the weakest console.

The issue wouldn’t be as bad if it was just Xbox but you are also affecting the PS version aswell

I think developers need to start just taking advantage of a console and if one of them can’t do X Y and Z then f*** them…why should the others suffer. What’s MS going to do? The bigger the franchise the least chance MS are going to tell them to f*** off. Baulders Gate 3 seemed to have stood their ground and suddenly their “strict” parity rule didn’t really matter. We suddenly got super optimisation efforts for the Series S that got things sorted.

anast7h ago

I agree, and the sad part is use normal folk saw it the second they announced their plans.

Abear213h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Agree 100% this is why I didn’t want the M$ Monopoly, now PS5 version will be held back too.

If PS5 Pro comes out and Series S is still a thing it’ll be interesting what differences and what devs choose to do. Really hoping Rockstar pushes the PS5 pro with GTA6 and we get the best version possible.

outsider16241h ago

Good ole S indeed. Everyone knew this all along. S was holding games back...Now where the hell is Orchard i want a word with him.

LucasRuinedChildhood11h ago

More info from the author of the article, I think: https://www.reddit.com/r/ki...

Quote:
"1) I was told this info from the producer of the game Martin Klíma.
2) He specifically said the game will have only one mode.
3) And this mode is 4K 30 on PS5/XSX and 1440p 30 on XSS.
4) He said that the game is already running north of the 30 FPS cap so the performance should be stable on launch, much better than KCD1.
5) The limitation was XSS because of the 10GB memory. He said that's why they wanted to make the game 25% larger.
6) Speculation on my part: the output resolution is probably upscaled and the reason why there won't be a 60 FPS mode is because it'll most likely be very CPU heavy, like Dragon's Dogma 2 for example."

Doesn't seem like they're adding a 40fps mode on PS5/Series X for launch even if they can handle it.

Sgt_Slaughter7h ago

I'd much rather have 1440p/60fps or even 45fps. Having just one, even with the Series S in mind, is disappointing.

franwex5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Remember when xbots were adamant that the series s won’t hold back the gen?

Microsoft just needs to let go of the mandatory parity. Who cares if your grandma doesn’t understand that a game cannot be played on the S. It’s not like it she can buy you a physical game for it anyway. Before buying the game put up a notice that it only works on series X. If you’re buying for a friend-allow for a refund.

Bam. Everyone is happy. Most series s owners are for casuals that want Game Pass anyway and most likely don’t purchase most games.

If the developers want it to run on S, let them figure it out.

Jin_Sakai5h ago

“During the event, the Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 producer also revealed that on PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X, the game will run at 4K resolution and 30 frames per second“

Another “creative decision” right? 🤦‍♂️

IHateNate5h ago

Amateur hour. Very incapable developer.

Outside_ofthe_Box4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Since you're not an amateur and clearly know more than them, can you over there and help get the game running on the S without having to sacrifice their true vision. Us gamers would really appreciate you using your wisdom for good 🙏

IHateNate4h ago

Thousands of games run just fine on S.

But Kingdom Come is the game that can’t. Must be one hell of a game!

franwex3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Thousands of games run on PS4 and on Switch. If developers want them to run on those systems. Fine. Those two platforms still get new games. Sony isn’t making studios also make a ps4 pro version, or Nintendo a wiiu version. Microsoft technically is.

IHateNate2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

If games like Alan Wake 2, GTA6, COD, hellblade all run on S, no excuse for this 100x smaller and 100x worse looking game to be held back.

outsider16241h ago(Edited 1h ago)

"Thousands of games run just fine on S.

But Kingdom Come is the game that can’t. Must be one hell of a game!"

Kingdom come 2 runs just fine alright. Its the SCOPE that they want. They had to cut it because of the stupid S series. Hellblade2 ran just fine too..but im pretty confident if it was just the X in mind, the scope of the game would have been much bigger.

IHateNate45m ago

So their scope is greater than that of GTA6 and warzone? Wow. Crazy

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HexGaming Launches Kickstarter Campaign for Hex Phantom

Custom Controller Company HexGaming launched a Kickstarter campaign for their latest pro controller, Hex Phantom. - IS

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