", "sharedContent": { "@type": "WebPage" }, "dateModified": "2009-12-08T12:59:24Z", "datePublished": "2009-12-08T12:59:24Z", "interactionStatistic": { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "https://schema.org/CommentAction", "userInteractionCount": 7 }, "commentCount": 7, "url": "https://n4g.com/user/blogpost/jinxstar/440439", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Jinxstar", "url": "https://n4g.com/user/home/jinxstar" }, "comment": [ { "@type": "Comment", "text": "very intelligent blog my friend...all 360 fanboys need to read it (although they still might not learn much)", "interactionStatistic": { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "https://schema.org/LikeAction", "userInteractionCount": 9 }, "upvotecount": 9, "commentCount": 5, "position": 1, "dateCreated": "2009-12-08T13:34:00Z", "dateModified": "2009-12-08T13:34:00Z", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "SnuggleBandit", "url": "https://n4g.com/user/home/snugglebandit" }, "comment": [ { "@type": "Comment", "text": "Thanks Z. bubs up bro.", "interactionStatistic": { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "https://schema.org/LikeAction", "userInteractionCount": 1 }, "upvotecount": 1, "position": 1, "dateCreated": "2009-12-08T15:28:00Z", "dateModified": "2009-12-08T15:28:00Z", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Jinxstar", "url": "https://n4g.com/user/home/jinxstar" } }, { "@type": "Comment", "text": ""always give you bubs and like reading your logic but most times i look at your posts and think 'Why is he trying...'"

Just be aware that sometimes I enjoy going too far, just to watch people sweat (And I try to keep those in the open zone).
But I generally dislike the 360 (The hardware and MS's business practices), and like most of my other complaints, I get it out of me on the internet.", "interactionStatistic": { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "https://schema.org/LikeAction", "userInteractionCount": 0 }, "position": 3, "dateCreated": "2009-12-09T16:22:00Z", "dateModified": "2009-12-09T16:23:00Z", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "HolyOrangeCows", "url": "https://n4g.com/user/home/holyorangecows" } }, { "@type": "Comment", "text": "I know the war is mostly 360 vs PS3 but in my honest opinion we should all be hating on Nintendo for being the biggest sell outs this Gen. MS and Sony try really really hard on all fronts DLC, Exclusives and everything. Ninty however I feel have let us all down...", "interactionStatistic": { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "https://schema.org/LikeAction", "userInteractionCount": 0 }, "position": 4, "dateCreated": "2009-12-09T19:42:00Z", "dateModified": "2009-12-09T19:42:00Z", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Jinxstar", "url": "https://n4g.com/user/home/jinxstar" } } ] }, { "@type": "Comment", "text": "To a PS3 fan, Little Big Planet is an exclusive. To a 360 fan, Mass Effect is an exclusive. If one was to take "exclusive" by its literal definition then only a few games would fit the mold, most would be in the "gray area" as you say.

In this "Next Gen" and especially on N4G, "exclusive" means: not on the competing platform.

You may not like it. But you better get used to it.", "interactionStatistic": { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "https://schema.org/LikeAction", "userInteractionCount": 3 }, "upvotecount": 3, "commentCount": 7, "position": 2, "dateCreated": "2009-12-08T14:03:00Z", "dateModified": "2009-12-08T14:04:00Z", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "ubiquitious", "url": "https://n4g.com/user/home/ubiquitious" }, "comment": [ { "@type": "Comment", "text": "but thats just stupid.", "interactionStatistic": { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "https://schema.org/LikeAction", "userInteractionCount": 5 }, "upvotecount": 5, "position": 1, "dateCreated": "2009-12-08T14:25:00Z", "dateModified": "2009-12-08T14:25:00Z", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "fucadastates", "url": "https://n4g.com/user/home/fucadastates" } }, { "@type": "Comment", "text": "Competing platform? What the hell you are talking about?

Most PS3 owners have 360.Most 360 owners have PS3.If you have online,you most likely have a PC.When a game releases calling itself exclusive I look at it carefully to see if it really is.The Agency is a game that interests me and I will decide between PC and PS3 in the long run because its a multi-platform.

The term "console exclusive" does not apply to me.I have a gaming PC and the three current consoles.I have choices and as a smart consumer,I can tell the difference between a true exclusive and a multiplatform", "interactionStatistic": { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "https://schema.org/LikeAction", "userInteractionCount": 7 }, "upvotecount": 7, "position": 2, "dateCreated": "2009-12-08T14:28:00Z", "dateModified": "2009-12-08T14:28:00Z", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "TheColbertinator", "url": "https://n4g.com/user/home/thecolbertinator" } }, { "@type": "Comment", "text": "Been here about 3 years now. I just get tired of people without knowledge. just hoped to help people not look so stupid is all... I do understand what you mean though...", "interactionStatistic": { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "https://schema.org/LikeAction", "userInteractionCount": 5 }, "upvotecount": 5, "position": 3, "dateCreated": "2009-12-08T15:26:00Z", "dateModified": "2009-12-08T15:26:00Z", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Jinxstar", "url": "https://n4g.com/user/home/jinxstar" } }, { "@type": "Comment", "text": ""The term "console exclusive" does not apply to me"

It only applies to console fanboys, when it's convenient:
360 fanboys will tout their Console exclusives now, and when game like DC Universe Online come out, they suddenly will condemn the term.
PS3 fanboys who downed the term will toss it around like crazy when DCUO comes out.", "interactionStatistic": { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "https://schema.org/LikeAction", "userInteractionCount": 6 }, "upvotecount": 6, "position": 4, "dateCreated": "2009-12-08T16:15:00Z", "dateModified": "2009-12-08T16:15:00Z", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "HolyOrangeCows", "url": "https://n4g.com/user/home/holyorangecows" } }, { "@type": "Comment", "text": "LBP *is* exclusive. To the Sony console brand if not the PS3. Meanwhile ME is not only on the 360 and PC, but now the iPhone. If only in name and not form.

The PSP in part was designed to compliment the PS3, not compete. Same for PS3 to PSP. That's why Valkyria Chronicles 2, KZ Liberation on the PSP makes sense. Blue Dragon 2 on the DS, especially if the third returns to the 360 which is dying if not dead in Japan, not so much.

PSP to PS3 is a gray instances where an exclusive is still an exclusive. Just like all of the DS/PSP Final Fantasy remakes, of NES and SNES games, aren't.", "interactionStatistic": { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "https://schema.org/LikeAction", "userInteractionCount": 0 }, "position": 5, "dateCreated": "2009-12-09T15:35:00Z", "dateModified": "2009-12-09T15:35:00Z", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Godmars290", "url": "https://n4g.com/user/home/godmars290" } }, { "@type": "Comment", "text": "LBP is multiplatform.

I believe fanboy AND literal definitions would confirm that...", "interactionStatistic": { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "https://schema.org/LikeAction", "userInteractionCount": 1 }, "upvotecount": 1, "position": 6, "dateCreated": "2009-12-10T07:33:00Z", "dateModified": "2009-12-10T07:33:00Z", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "ubiquitious", "url": "https://n4g.com/user/home/ubiquitious" } }, { "@type": "Comment", "text": "PSP and Ps3 version are not the same. Mass Effect meanwhile has the same thing. You know what i mean?", "interactionStatistic": { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "https://schema.org/LikeAction", "userInteractionCount": 1 }, "upvotecount": 1, "position": 7, "dateCreated": "2010-02-21T08:49:00Z", "dateModified": "2010-02-21T08:49:00Z", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "TengkuAmir10", "url": "https://n4g.com/user/home/tengkuamir10" } } ] }, { "@type": "Comment", "text": "haha...what a waste of time.", "interactionStatistic": { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "https://schema.org/LikeAction", "userInteractionCount": 7 }, "upvotecount": 7, "commentCount": 3, "position": 3, "dateCreated": "2009-12-08T19:40:00Z", "dateModified": "2009-12-08T19:41:00Z", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Breakfast", "url": "https://n4g.com/user/home/breakfast" }, "comment": [ { "@type": "Comment", "text": "Yes bro... It does and it's more then a thousand. I think it's like 1800", "interactionStatistic": { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "https://schema.org/LikeAction", "userInteractionCount": 4 }, "upvotecount": 4, "position": 1, "dateCreated": "2009-12-08T21:43:00Z", "dateModified": "2009-12-08T21:43:00Z", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Jinxstar", "url": "https://n4g.com/user/home/jinxstar" } }, { "@type": "Comment", "text": "...were the old guy takes up new pointless hobbies, because he cant get it up and have sex no more. This until he tries viagra, and all those pointless hobbies went away? (i cant find the video on the internet...you get the gist).

Ok now replace:
-the old guy, with you
-sex, with gaming
-and viagra, with the xbox 360

Theres the answer to your pointless 1800 word essay writings.

:)", "interactionStatistic": { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "https://schema.org/LikeAction", "userInteractionCount": 2 }, "upvotecount": 2, "position": 2, "dateCreated": "2009-12-09T01:34:00Z", "dateModified": "2009-12-09T01:37:00Z", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Breakfast", "url": "https://n4g.com/user/home/breakfast" } }, { "@type": "Comment", "text": "You pegged me breakfast =D Spot on. I guess I need to reroll at life eh? STOP PUSHING ME TOWARDS THE PILLS!!!! I'd probably need half a bottle at this point to even get a semi I'm such a loser. I try to live by the philosophy that nothing is more important then the amount of bubs you have on N4G.

but on a serious note.

http://www.collegehumor.com...", "interactionStatistic": { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "https://schema.org/LikeAction", "userInteractionCount": 1 }, "upvotecount": 1, "position": 3, "dateCreated": "2009-12-09T10:55:00Z", "dateModified": "2009-12-09T11:20:00Z", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Jinxstar", "url": "https://n4g.com/user/home/jinxstar" } } ] }, { "@type": "Comment", "text": "Is an exclusive game a better game by default? Is it 'worth' more in some way? Am I a dirty person if I enjoy games not minding wether they are multiplat or exclusive?", "interactionStatistic": { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "https://schema.org/LikeAction", "userInteractionCount": 3 }, "upvotecount": 3, "commentCount": 2, "position": 4, "dateCreated": "2009-12-09T00:01:00Z", "dateModified": "2009-12-09T00:01:00Z", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "DelbertGrady", "url": "https://n4g.com/user/home/delbertgrady" }, "comment": [ { "@type": "Comment", "text": "@ Soda Popinsky
Quote - Am I a dirty person ?

Answer:
Yes you are.", "interactionStatistic": { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "https://schema.org/LikeAction", "userInteractionCount": 2 }, "upvotecount": 2, "position": 1, "dateCreated": "2009-12-09T00:29:00Z", "dateModified": "2009-12-09T00:29:00Z", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "In-cognito", "url": "https://n4g.com/user/home/in-cognito" } }, { "@type": "Comment", "text": "You're a dirty boy and should be punished.

Go get the gagball.", "interactionStatistic": { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "https://schema.org/LikeAction", "userInteractionCount": 3 }, "upvotecount": 3, "position": 2, "dateCreated": "2009-12-09T01:02:00Z", "dateModified": "2009-12-09T01:02:00Z", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "TheBand1t", "url": "https://n4g.com/user/home/theband1t" } } ] }, { "@type": "Comment", "text": "Soda is right.Exclusives dont matter in terms of quality.Look at all the crappy Live arcade games that arrive every week.Or the freshly milked Singstar games which have an entire shelf occupied at Gamestop.", "interactionStatistic": { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "https://schema.org/LikeAction", "userInteractionCount": 2 }, "upvotecount": 2, "position": 5, "dateCreated": "2009-12-09T12:21:00Z", "dateModified": "2009-12-09T12:21:00Z", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "TheColbertinator", "url": "https://n4g.com/user/home/thecolbertinator" } }, { "@type": "Comment", "text": "A good article and well worth reading, but a question on 'exclusives'.

Would you differentiate between a PC and a Mac when it comes to exclusives? They are and they aren't different formats. They both have their own unique fanbase much akin to console fanboys, but at the end of the day they are both collections of processors (amd/intel), video cards (ati/nvidia), memory and hard drives.

If something is 'PC exclusive' it can also be played on a Mac as macs can use windows these days. It (usually) can't be played on OSX but anything made exclusivly for OSX can't be played on a windows PC.

Should the term 'pc exclusive' be replaced by 'windows exclusive' I wonder?", "interactionStatistic": { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "https://schema.org/LikeAction", "userInteractionCount": 0 }, "commentCount": 1, "position": 6, "dateCreated": "2009-12-10T12:31:00Z", "dateModified": "2009-12-10T12:31:00Z", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Cosquae", "url": "https://n4g.com/user/home/cosquae" }, "comment": [ { "@type": "Comment", "text": "I would say yes they are different platforms. i.e. one is built to run on windows and another is built to work on mac. Similar to how a game can be released on PS3 and 360. They run a little differently and there are differences like... if you go online the servers wont be shared... or maybe they would in some cases and not others... So yes I would say it would be a multiplatform release because as far as the physical media you need to buy it specific for whatever OS your running but I could see the flip side of the argument.", "interactionStatistic": { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "https://schema.org/LikeAction", "userInteractionCount": 0 }, "position": 1, "dateCreated": "2009-12-10T13:10:00Z", "dateModified": "2009-12-10T13:14:00Z", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Jinxstar", "url": "https://n4g.com/user/home/jinxstar" } } ] }, { "@type": "Comment", "text": "What I don't agree with is people who rag on Splinter Cell, Mass Effect, and Alan Wake. The Xbox is a platform which has common roots with PCs, so why is it a derogatory claim to say that it's not really an exclusive? Of course the developer wants to make a profit, so porting to the PC is good business sense and is more simple to do than a PS3 to PC port.

They aren't "exclusives" obviously. Still, 90% of people don't have a PC that can run Splinter Cell on medium settings, so the console advantage is retained.", "interactionStatistic": { "@type": "InteractionCounter", "interactionType": "https://schema.org/LikeAction", "userInteractionCount": 0 }, "position": 7, "dateCreated": "2009-12-16T15:19:00Z", "dateModified": "2009-12-16T15:19:00Z", "author": { "@type": "Person", "name": "dgroundwater", "url": "https://n4g.com/user/home/dgroundwater" } } ] }

Jinxstar

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What makes something exclusive?

For a while now I have been seeing problems with peoples understanding of what exactly constitutes and "Exclusive". I am writing this to break down how you can define an exclusive so you can be better educated on the subject. Not only so you don't look like a moron when you post about exclusives but to also mitigate flaming and 50 posts and replies in every article debating what an "Exclusive" actually constitutes.

Exclusive by Definition.

  • not divided or shared with others; "they have exclusive use of the machine"; "sole rights of publication"
  • excluding much or all; especially all but a particular group or minority; "exclusive clubs"; "an exclusive restaurants and shops"
  • a news report that is reported first by one news organization; "he got a scoop on the bribery of city officials"
  • single(a): not divided among or brought to bear on more than one object or objective; "judging a contest with a single eye"; "a single devotion to duty"; "undivided affection"; "gained their exclusive attention"
So taking a few points in mind I would like you to carry these with you throughout my blog post.  "Not divided or shared with others" and "Not divided among or brought to bear with more then one object".

As far as gaming goes many people throw the word "exclusive" around in many ways. I would like to make a clear and concise blog for 2 reasons.

1. To clarify what an exclusive is for those who don't know and the discussion/debate can ensue here and not fill up 90% of other articles.

2. So that when someone says "ZOMG Exclusive FTW" when by definition it's really not. They can be sent here to be (re)educated on the subject with a simple link.

Now that the formalities are out of the way I will go into what makes something exclusive and why.

An exclusive game is a game that can only be played on one platform and one platform only. No matter the system. Examples are as follows Fable 2, Halo 3, Gears of War 2, God of war1,2,3, Killzone 2, Super Mario Galaxy, Legend of Zelda:Spirit Tracks, God of War: Chains of Olympus, Diablo 1,2,3 and World of Warcraft. These games are only available on a single Platform i.e. Xbox 360, Playstation 3, Playstation 2, Nintendo wii, Nintendo DS, PSP or PC.

Now granted one could argue down to the nitty gritty about "Hey 'Bowsers inside story' can be played on the DS, DSi, DS lite or any other form of DS. So is it exclusive?" Well yes. Similar to how Fable 2 can be played on a Xbox 360 Arcade, pro, elite or even the collectors edition Modern Warfare 2 kit. Just like how Killzone 2 can be played on any form of PS3 as well. They are exclusive because they come from one publisher and are all on one format(for the most part) that is designed to work with any version of a specific item. Similar to how not many PC's are alike but Bejeweled can be played on nearly any of them.

When is a game not exclusive? When it is on more then one platform. For current game releases the platforms on which they can be played, for the most part, include. PS2, PS3, Wii, DS, Xbox 360, PSP, PC, Mac, iPod touch/iPhone and soon we may see things like Onlive or other formats.

Now a game like "DC Universe online" for example that is releasing on PC and PS3 is not a "PS3 exclusive" Nor is it a "PC exclusive" it is a multiplatform game. Just like 'Mass Effect', 'The Agency' or 'Left 4 Dead' are all multiplatform games. They can be played on more then one platform. This is where most people get confused. The difference they choose to see is "Console vs Platform". Which is different. PC is not typically seen as a "Home gaming console" Even though it can be set up to be one. It is however still a gaming platform. By definition again.

"A video game console is an interactive entertainment computer or modified computer system that produces a video display signal which can be used with a display device (a television, monitor, etc.) to display a video game. The term "video game console" is used to distinguish a machine designed for consumers to buy and use solely for playing video games from a personal computer, which has many other functions, or arcade machines, which are designed for businesses that buy them and then charge others to play."

So someone can create their own console if they so choose but traditionally it is a machine you buy from a store like a PS3, Wii or Xbox 360. So when someone calls a game "Multiplatform" it is by definition not an exclusive.

The flip side is someone could say it is a "Console exclusive" Meaning it can only be played on the PS3, Wii, Xbox 360 or otherwise but could also be found on PC. The term "Handheld console exclusive" would mean it could only be played on a DS or a PSP and PC(or console if your strictly talking about handhelds) such as "Dinner Dash" or something like that... until recently anyway.

There are also franchises which are exclusive to a company. Such as 'little Big planet'. This game series is a "Playstation exclusive" No need for a number as it is on multiple consoles/formats(PS3, PSP) throughout the brands existence.

Next up is the "Timed exclusive" What this means is a game that gets released for one platform and is then released sometime later for another. i.e. The 'Fallout 3' DLC was a "Timed" Xbox 360/PC exclusive. Another game would be 'Braid' which is on PC and PS3 now when it was first on the 360 only.

There are a number of gray areas as well like 'Ninja Gaiden 2' vs 'Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2' they are very similar in many ways and it's up for debate on which any individual prefers. They are both technically exclusives to their individual consoles. There are variances in visuals, online support, playable characters, level design and otherwise... But are they really both exclusive as they are, at the core, the same game? They offer different experiences rooted in the same design and philosophy...

The gray area can be hard sometimes. Is GTA4 more exclusive to the 360 because of the DLC? is Left 4 Dead more exclusive to PC because of the visuals and mods? A change in experience can make a game totally different so be wary in this gray area as it may start some forum arguments. Truth be told in situations like this stay away from the word 'exclusive' because it wont get you anywhere say something like "Left 4 Dead is simply better on PC due to the active modding community" or "GTA4 is made so much better due to the 'Ballad of gay Tony' DLC"

One more thing that you may be able to think of as "Gray area" would be emulators. If someone were to make a "360 emulator" for the PC would 360 games be exclusive to the 360 still? Yes! Why? Because emulators are illegal and the games were never published for these formats. Any form of piracy or illegal activity automatically voids legitimacy. Emulators don't have specific releases or terms of agreement hence are not true exclusives. Unless brought to you through a legitimate source with publishers approval. i.e. "Steam" service or "good ol' games"... Could someone simply say "I ain't supporting that company. I'm gonna play all the games free on my PC". Sure they could. That's their choice but there is no arguing the validity of exclusivity.

So we have gone over exclusives, platform vs console, Multiplatform, Console exclusives, Franchises, timed exclusives (Keep in mind you could say something is a "Timed console exclusive" as well if it will be coming to either PC later or another console so long as you keep in mind what the difference is between a console and a platform and otherwise) as well as covering the gray area which, for the most part, can be figured out by using logic and not idiocy.

Now that this is all cleared up hopefully we can have a more productive time in the comments section.

SnuggleBandit5289d ago

very intelligent blog my friend...all 360 fanboys need to read it (although they still might not learn much)

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Jinxstar5288d ago (Edited 5288d ago )

Holy Orange.

Really for the most part it's not worth it to me. I don't even comment much anymore compared to what I used to because most people are not open minded enough to try. I tried being on both sides of the flame wars... Most people are just not willing to try that and they are beyond reproach. however you get people like Breakfast below that are pure instigators and you need to see them for what they are. i like breakfast. Always have. He's not everyones type of funny but every once in a while it's fun... Thats what this site and gaming is all about to most people.

This blog really is for the few younger folks who don't get it and to be used in flame wars to correct people. My blog is not gospel but I find the logic hard to argue. people can debate all they want and I encourage it but somethings are not arguable. like the color of the sky and water being wet. however you'll find people on here willing to try and argue it and take your bubs at the same time. My father always told me growing up "Are you a baby? Do you need a baba? no! Well then give it to those who do want it because it ain't worth it!" basically pick your battles. Most of the time it's a waste of time. however if it's a good time passer then rock on! I did it for a long time because of my schedule(I'm a fire fighter which means 24 hours on 72 hours off) so I wind up with a lot of extra time to do nothing...

anyway enough rant. I like your articles holy orange and think your a decent guy. always give you bubs and like reading your logic but most times i look at your posts and think "Why is he trying..." Then i think I used to do the same... So to each his own. Game on bro.

HolyOrangeCows5288d ago (Edited 5288d ago )

"always give you bubs and like reading your logic but most times i look at your posts and think 'Why is he trying...'"

Just be aware that sometimes I enjoy going too far, just to watch people sweat (And I try to keep those in the open zone).
But I generally dislike the 360 (The hardware and MS's business practices), and like most of my other complaints, I get it out of me on the internet.

Jinxstar5288d ago

I know the war is mostly 360 vs PS3 but in my honest opinion we should all be hating on Nintendo for being the biggest sell outs this Gen. MS and Sony try really really hard on all fronts DLC, Exclusives and everything. Ninty however I feel have let us all down...

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ubiquitious5289d ago (Edited 5289d ago )

To a PS3 fan, Little Big Planet is an exclusive. To a 360 fan, Mass Effect is an exclusive. If one was to take "exclusive" by its literal definition then only a few games would fit the mold, most would be in the "gray area" as you say.

In this "Next Gen" and especially on N4G, "exclusive" means: not on the competing platform.

You may not like it. But you better get used to it.

TheColbertinator5289d ago

Competing platform? What the hell you are talking about?

Most PS3 owners have 360.Most 360 owners have PS3.If you have online,you most likely have a PC.When a game releases calling itself exclusive I look at it carefully to see if it really is.The Agency is a game that interests me and I will decide between PC and PS3 in the long run because its a multi-platform.

The term "console exclusive" does not apply to me.I have a gaming PC and the three current consoles.I have choices and as a smart consumer,I can tell the difference between a true exclusive and a multiplatform

Jinxstar5289d ago

Been here about 3 years now. I just get tired of people without knowledge. just hoped to help people not look so stupid is all... I do understand what you mean though...

HolyOrangeCows5289d ago

"The term "console exclusive" does not apply to me"

It only applies to console fanboys, when it's convenient:
360 fanboys will tout their Console exclusives now, and when game like DC Universe Online come out, they suddenly will condemn the term.
PS3 fanboys who downed the term will toss it around like crazy when DCUO comes out.

Godmars2905288d ago

LBP *is* exclusive. To the Sony console brand if not the PS3. Meanwhile ME is not only on the 360 and PC, but now the iPhone. If only in name and not form.

The PSP in part was designed to compliment the PS3, not compete. Same for PS3 to PSP. That's why Valkyria Chronicles 2, KZ Liberation on the PSP makes sense. Blue Dragon 2 on the DS, especially if the third returns to the 360 which is dying if not dead in Japan, not so much.

PSP to PS3 is a gray instances where an exclusive is still an exclusive. Just like all of the DS/PSP Final Fantasy remakes, of NES and SNES games, aren't.

ubiquitious5287d ago

LBP is multiplatform.

I believe fanboy AND literal definitions would confirm that...

TengkuAmir105214d ago

PSP and Ps3 version are not the same. Mass Effect meanwhile has the same thing. You know what i mean?

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Breakfast5289d ago (Edited 5289d ago )

haha...what a waste of time.

Jinxstar5289d ago

Yes bro... It does and it's more then a thousand. I think it's like 1800

Breakfast5289d ago (Edited 5289d ago )

...were the old guy takes up new pointless hobbies, because he cant get it up and have sex no more. This until he tries viagra, and all those pointless hobbies went away? (i cant find the video on the internet...you get the gist).

Ok now replace:
-the old guy, with you
-sex, with gaming
-and viagra, with the xbox 360

Theres the answer to your pointless 1800 word essay writings.

:)

Jinxstar5288d ago (Edited 5288d ago )

You pegged me breakfast =D Spot on. I guess I need to reroll at life eh? STOP PUSHING ME TOWARDS THE PILLS!!!! I'd probably need half a bottle at this point to even get a semi I'm such a loser. I try to live by the philosophy that nothing is more important then the amount of bubs you have on N4G.

but on a serious note.

http://www.collegehumor.com...

DelbertGrady5289d ago

Is an exclusive game a better game by default? Is it 'worth' more in some way? Am I a dirty person if I enjoy games not minding wether they are multiplat or exclusive?

In-cognito5289d ago

@ Soda Popinsky
Quote - Am I a dirty person ?

Answer:
Yes you are.

TheBand1t5289d ago

You're a dirty boy and should be punished.

Go get the gagball.

TheColbertinator5288d ago

Soda is right.Exclusives dont matter in terms of quality.Look at all the crappy Live arcade games that arrive every week.Or the freshly milked Singstar games which have an entire shelf occupied at Gamestop.

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Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Combat Director Wants Final Part To Offer Players "Even More Freedom"

The Final Fantasy VII Rebirth combat director has expressed that he wants the final part in the trilogy to offer players "even more freedom".

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gold_drake16h ago

i wonder if where gonna be able to jump

-Foxtrot10h ago

I love the game so far but please don’t make the final part a mini game fest

Everytime I get to a new part in Rebirth it’s “mini game time”

Inverno3h ago

Hope ya don't mind me asking since it seems like you've played it, did it feel like a decent step up from the last game or was it more like the best from the last but more polished?

CS73h ago

It makes Remake feel like a demo.

9.5/10 imo. And I think the “mini games” did a great job of adding variety to the gameplay. Purely optional as well.

-Foxtrot2h ago

Here's my thoughts

I think it's a big step up from the first instalment, I'm enjoying it way more.

I thought keeping it just in Midgar was silly, it felt dragged out and it didn't have much variation in terms of the scenery.

However with Rebirth, as soon as you get out of Kalm you have a big world to explore and it's great to just wander round and explore.

Now that I'm half way in though, despite still liking what I'm playing, the gameplay loop is now starting to slow down on me. I've got to a new region and I'm like "Yaaay...need to go and find those towers again, oh look another special beast marker, is that a bird I see in the distance? Better follow it to another Mako Crystal"

It's like....you know how Peter Jackson was only supposed to have two Hobbit films then Warner Bros wanted a third film so he stretched the second film out as much as he could so he could keep stuff for the third film making a trilogy? Yeah it feels like that, so these mini games are a part of that overall gameplay loop to keep us going and stretch the game out overall so they have something for the third and final game.

I personally think you could have had the first instalment get you out of Midgar and through to Grasslands / Junon and the second game finishes things off.

Becuzisaid3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

I had a weird cycle of love/hate for all the mini games as I played through. At first I really hated the seeming need to check all these boxes while exploring the grasslands. I didn't enjoy the Gilgamesh quest initially, and thought Queen's blood was fine but didn't want to commit to it. The side quests didn't really grab me either.

Then for some reason everything in Junon region changed my mind and I did pretty much everything. I liked most of the side quests, I actually liked playing fort condor (didn't care for it in the intergrade dlc). And my interest for completing these quests stayed pretty much through to Cosmo Canyon.

Then they added that horrible Lifestream memory/battle mini game and I started getting so burnt out of it all. I just wanted to do the story. I didn't do any side quests in neibleheim and beyond except for the summon. I abandoned Gilgamesh.

So what I'm saying is I would like the third part to go back to the focused progression from remake. Keep the mini games to the gold saucer. Start the game snowboarding if you want, but from there keep the story rolling.

-Foxtrot2h ago

That's funny you say that because I did everything in the Grasslands but once in Junon I started to slow down a little until Corel where by the end I was burnt out. I'm still currently going but I'm just doing what I can while things keep getting thrown at me.

I would have preferred half of these mini game side fillers / collectibles for some really beefy side quests that really adds onto the world of FFVII.

Inverno1h ago

Sounds like they hadn't really figured out what they wanted to do with Remake and this one is more of what they thought of doing which is probably why they're dragging it out to make a trilogy. Disappointed to hear it has towers cause man do i hate towers lol. It's been a while since I've played the first and it'll be a while longer to play the sequel, but it sounds like I'll enjoy it. 7 really impressed me especially after being disappointed with 15, felt like Square finally realized that FF was THEIR big franchise again.

Tacoboto12m ago

How many hours are you into it at this point?

My friend got like 20-30 in and pretty much quit because of its mini game era. He loved and basically binged through Gran Blue compared to Rebirth

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MetroidFREAK213h ago

As long as it comes out on PS5 to have the entire series on one platform, do whatever you want

franwex2h ago

The combat is my favorite thing about Rebirth. Would be really cool if they can improve it even more.

Knightofelemia1h ago

I hope after FF7 Square will either give a new FF game the remake treatment. Or give some of their older titles a remake treatment like Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross, even Xenogears.

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Kingdom Come Deliverance 2's Scope Was Impacted by Xbox Series S Limitations

Wccf tech writes: "Kingdom Come Deliverance 2's scope was impacted by the Xbox Series S hardware limitations, as developers could only make a game that was 25% bigger than its predecessor."

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-Foxtrot9h ago

This is the issue with things like this

Xbox Series X is apparently to MS the worlds most powerful console

However the Series S is obviously a limitation because it’s underpowered and developers have to go for parity.

So what’s the point of the world’s most powerful console if you are holding third party developers back? They aren’t going to push themselves if they have to think about the weakest console.

The issue wouldn’t be as bad if it was just Xbox but you are also affecting the PS version aswell

I think developers need to start just taking advantage of a console and if one of them can’t do X Y and Z then f*** them…why should the others suffer. What’s MS going to do? The bigger the franchise the least chance MS are going to tell them to f*** off. Baulders Gate 3 seemed to have stood their ground and suddenly their “strict” parity rule didn’t really matter. We suddenly got super optimisation efforts for the Series S that got things sorted.

anast6h ago

I agree, and the sad part is use normal folk saw it the second they announced their plans.

Abear212h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Agree 100% this is why I didn’t want the M$ Monopoly, now PS5 version will be held back too.

If PS5 Pro comes out and Series S is still a thing it’ll be interesting what differences and what devs choose to do. Really hoping Rockstar pushes the PS5 pro with GTA6 and we get the best version possible.

outsider16248m ago

Good ole S indeed. Everyone knew this all along. S was holding games back...Now where the hell is Orchard i want a word with him.

LucasRuinedChildhood10h ago

More info from the author of the article, I think: https://www.reddit.com/r/ki...

Quote:
"1) I was told this info from the producer of the game Martin Klíma.
2) He specifically said the game will have only one mode.
3) And this mode is 4K 30 on PS5/XSX and 1440p 30 on XSS.
4) He said that the game is already running north of the 30 FPS cap so the performance should be stable on launch, much better than KCD1.
5) The limitation was XSS because of the 10GB memory. He said that's why they wanted to make the game 25% larger.
6) Speculation on my part: the output resolution is probably upscaled and the reason why there won't be a 60 FPS mode is because it'll most likely be very CPU heavy, like Dragon's Dogma 2 for example."

Doesn't seem like they're adding a 40fps mode on PS5/Series X for launch even if they can handle it.

Sgt_Slaughter6h ago

I'd much rather have 1440p/60fps or even 45fps. Having just one, even with the Series S in mind, is disappointing.

franwex4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Remember when xbots were adamant that the series s won’t hold back the gen?

Microsoft just needs to let go of the mandatory parity. Who cares if your grandma doesn’t understand that a game cannot be played on the S. It’s not like it she can buy you a physical game for it anyway. Before buying the game put up a notice that it only works on series X. If you’re buying for a friend-allow for a refund.

Bam. Everyone is happy. Most series s owners are for casuals that want Game Pass anyway and most likely don’t purchase most games.

If the developers want it to run on S, let them figure it out.

Jin_Sakai4h ago

“During the event, the Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 producer also revealed that on PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X, the game will run at 4K resolution and 30 frames per second“

Another “creative decision” right? 🤦‍♂️

IHateNate4h ago

Amateur hour. Very incapable developer.

Outside_ofthe_Box3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Since you're not an amateur and clearly know more than them, can you over there and help get the game running on the S without having to sacrifice their true vision. Us gamers would really appreciate you using your wisdom for good 🙏

IHateNate3h ago

Thousands of games run just fine on S.

But Kingdom Come is the game that can’t. Must be one hell of a game!

franwex2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Thousands of games run on PS4 and on Switch. If developers want them to run on those systems. Fine. Those two platforms still get new games. Sony isn’t making studios also make a ps4 pro version, or Nintendo a wiiu version. Microsoft technically is.

IHateNate1h ago(Edited 59m ago)

If games like Alan Wake 2, GTA6, COD, hellblade all run on S, no excuse for this 100x smaller and 100x worse looking game to be held back.

outsider16244m ago(Edited 3m ago)

"Thousands of games run just fine on S.

But Kingdom Come is the game that can’t. Must be one hell of a game!"

Kingdom come 2 runs just fine alright. Its the SCOPE that they want. They had to cut it because of the stupid S series. Hellblade2 ran just fine too..but im pretty confident if it was just the X in mind, the scope of the game would have been much bigger.

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HexGaming Launches Kickstarter Campaign for Hex Phantom

Custom Controller Company HexGaming launched a Kickstarter campaign for their latest pro controller, Hex Phantom. - IS

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