bunfighterii

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MW3 Multiplayer on PS3. Another CoD, more issues remain unfixed

So after having the game now for about 5 days, and having played quite a few hours of multiplayer, I think I'm in a position to provide some multiplayer impressions for those of you still on the fence about this game (if there are any of you left).

My biggest impression coming out of MW3, is not how similar it is to MW2, but how it doesn't work properly.

Yes, many of those issues that made Black Ops such a mess on PS3 are back for Modern Warfare 3, chief among them, the frame rate 'collapse'. The game in every review I've read is billed to run at a smooth 60FPS. Well it doesn't- all the time.

Yes it runs smoothly when your the only player on the screen, but that's where it ends. Multiple explosions, players, or large firefights make this game struggle and chug- and I still can't believe it's an issue reviewers and the community haven't widely commented on yet. Multiple frames skip, frames freeze for 1-2 seconds, and the whole experience is that the game feels 'jumpy' and unfinished.

What is most concerning is, these issues are negligible to non-existent in MW2. So what gives? This isn't simply a case of lag- 10 years of online gaming has taught me the difference. This is poor coding, and it's inherent game, not the connection (which for the record I've noted the issues occur in games where all players have full ping).

This to me is representative of two things:

1) The now yearly cycle in which CoD games are released has seen the same problem that plagues many sports games- the same game means the same issues. Black Ops had this problem, and now MW3 does too, and it should have been identified and fixed, but wasn't simply because the focus of development is not improving but re-skinning the same experience.

2) CoD players silently put up with these issues, because the game is still damn fun. I'll admit I still enjoy MW3. However, I still enjoyed NBA2K10, the most glitch ridden and poorly executed basketball game of the HD generation. It doesn't make them bad games, just badly made.

So there you go. Fire comments away.

hennessey864582d ago

Is actually on a 2 year cycle, infinity wards next game wont come out until 2013. The next cod game you will play is treyarcs effort. Allso five days isn't really along time to be playing a game online, give it another couple of weeks and things should be sorted.

zerocrossing4581d ago

I think what the guy is getting at is, the game as a whole has changed little when compared to previous titles, leading to the obvious assumption that the devs behind it care more about the money the CoD label will rake in than improving/innovating the franchise.

Also, giving the devs a chance to fix the bugs in the game by waiting for a week or 2, doesn't really excuse the fact that the bugs shouldn't have been there to begin with.

Getowned4580d ago (Edited 4580d ago )

This is one of the reasons why I respect Bungie so much right now,they are leaving behind what made them popular their "brand" (Halo) and going into a new game were they have to start all over again and make a new brand/name for themselves they can't hide behind Halo anymore(not saying they were) they have to go prove themselves.I really can't wait to see more of there new game.

COD well after MW3's MP they have gone way down hill,I talk to people at work and school they agree Blops has a better MP over MW3.IW has hit rock bottom.I do expect good things from Respawn though.

Edit:

I like MW3s SP and co-op modes they are fun at least.

princejb1344581d ago

the game keeps freezing and all the hiccups started happening to me after the last patch that came out
i don't even bother playing multiplayer now till its patched
been focusing now on the trophies and special ops till they finally fix the problems that are very frustrating

news4geeks4581d ago

so what are the issues again?

theonlylolking4581d ago

The only issue I have in MW3 is the head glitch.

TopDudeMan4581d ago

I think the frame skipping you're referring to is actually just lag. I've had the same problem a few times and each time it was solved by host migration.

bunfighterii4581d ago

nah its not lag I've not been in a game where this issue hasn't occurred. I've had lag happen and this frame issue happen and they're completely different. Thing is I can't show you what I mean short of uploading to youtube, but the last thing youtube needs is another cod video taken off screen with someone's iPhone.

TopDudeMan4581d ago

no, believe me, I know what you mean. It looks like it's freezing, doesn't it? I'm almost positive that its lag because I only get it in some games.

princejb1344581d ago

its not lag bro, its actually freezing
I've had host migration and the same problem occurs
i hope they fix it soon, and fix elite also
i bought a product i still haven't been able to log into

greatjimbo784581d ago

Latency compensation needs a tweak as well.

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The case for Pokemon Black and White remakes in 2024

A number of leaks have popped up that reference Pokemon Black and White remakes in some way. Are they all coincidences or real in 2024?

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Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Combat Director Wants Final Part To Offer Players "Even More Freedom"

The Final Fantasy VII Rebirth combat director has expressed that he wants the final part in the trilogy to offer players "even more freedom".

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gold_drake18h ago

i wonder if where gonna be able to jump

-Foxtrot12h ago

I love the game so far but please don’t make the final part a mini game fest

Everytime I get to a new part in Rebirth it’s “mini game time”

Inverno6h ago

Hope ya don't mind me asking since it seems like you've played it, did it feel like a decent step up from the last game or was it more like the best from the last but more polished?

CS76h ago

It makes Remake feel like a demo.

9.5/10 imo. And I think the “mini games” did a great job of adding variety to the gameplay. Purely optional as well.

-Foxtrot5h ago

Here's my thoughts

I think it's a big step up from the first instalment, I'm enjoying it way more.

I thought keeping it just in Midgar was silly, it felt dragged out and it didn't have much variation in terms of the scenery.

However with Rebirth, as soon as you get out of Kalm you have a big world to explore and it's great to just wander round and explore.

Now that I'm half way in though, despite still liking what I'm playing, the gameplay loop is now starting to slow down on me. I've got to a new region and I'm like "Yaaay...need to go and find those towers again, oh look another special beast marker, is that a bird I see in the distance? Better follow it to another Mako Crystal"

It's like....you know how Peter Jackson was only supposed to have two Hobbit films then Warner Bros wanted a third film so he stretched the second film out as much as he could so he could keep stuff for the third film making a trilogy? Yeah it feels like that, so these mini games are a part of that overall gameplay loop to keep us going and stretch the game out overall so they have something for the third and final game.

I personally think you could have had the first instalment get you out of Midgar and through to Grasslands / Junon and the second game finishes things off.

Becuzisaid6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

I had a weird cycle of love/hate for all the mini games as I played through. At first I really hated the seeming need to check all these boxes while exploring the grasslands. I didn't enjoy the Gilgamesh quest initially, and thought Queen's blood was fine but didn't want to commit to it. The side quests didn't really grab me either.

Then for some reason everything in Junon region changed my mind and I did pretty much everything. I liked most of the side quests, I actually liked playing fort condor (didn't care for it in the intergrade dlc). And my interest for completing these quests stayed pretty much through to Cosmo Canyon.

Then they added that horrible Lifestream memory/battle mini game and I started getting so burnt out of it all. I just wanted to do the story. I didn't do any side quests in neibleheim and beyond except for the summon. I abandoned Gilgamesh.

So what I'm saying is I would like the third part to go back to the focused progression from remake. Keep the mini games to the gold saucer. Start the game snowboarding if you want, but from there keep the story rolling.

-Foxtrot5h ago

That's funny you say that because I did everything in the Grasslands but once in Junon I started to slow down a little until Corel where by the end I was burnt out. I'm still currently going but I'm just doing what I can while things keep getting thrown at me.

I would have preferred half of these mini game side fillers / collectibles for some really beefy side quests that really adds onto the world of FFVII.

Inverno4h ago

Sounds like they hadn't really figured out what they wanted to do with Remake and this one is more of what they thought of doing which is probably why they're dragging it out to make a trilogy. Disappointed to hear it has towers cause man do i hate towers lol. It's been a while since I've played the first and it'll be a while longer to play the sequel, but it sounds like I'll enjoy it. 7 really impressed me especially after being disappointed with 15, felt like Square finally realized that FF was THEIR big franchise again.

Tacoboto3h ago

How many hours are you into it at this point?

My friend got like 20-30 in and pretty much quit because of its mini game era. He loved and basically binged through Gran Blue compared to Rebirth

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MetroidFREAK216h ago

As long as it comes out on PS5 to have the entire series on one platform, do whatever you want

franwex5h ago

The combat is my favorite thing about Rebirth. Would be really cool if they can improve it even more.

Knightofelemia4h ago

I hope after FF7 Square will either give a new FF game the remake treatment. Or give some of their older titles a remake treatment like Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross, even Xenogears.

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Kingdom Come Deliverance 2's Scope Was Impacted by Xbox Series S Limitations

Wccf tech writes: "Kingdom Come Deliverance 2's scope was impacted by the Xbox Series S hardware limitations, as developers could only make a game that was 25% bigger than its predecessor."

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-Foxtrot12h ago

This is the issue with things like this

Xbox Series X is apparently to MS the worlds most powerful console

However the Series S is obviously a limitation because it’s underpowered and developers have to go for parity.

So what’s the point of the world’s most powerful console if you are holding third party developers back? They aren’t going to push themselves if they have to think about the weakest console.

The issue wouldn’t be as bad if it was just Xbox but you are also affecting the PS version aswell

I think developers need to start just taking advantage of a console and if one of them can’t do X Y and Z then f*** them…why should the others suffer. What’s MS going to do? The bigger the franchise the least chance MS are going to tell them to f*** off. Baulders Gate 3 seemed to have stood their ground and suddenly their “strict” parity rule didn’t really matter. We suddenly got super optimisation efforts for the Series S that got things sorted.

anast8h ago

I agree, and the sad part is use normal folk saw it the second they announced their plans.

Abear215h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Agree 100% this is why I didn’t want the M$ Monopoly, now PS5 version will be held back too.

If PS5 Pro comes out and Series S is still a thing it’ll be interesting what differences and what devs choose to do. Really hoping Rockstar pushes the PS5 pro with GTA6 and we get the best version possible.

outsider16243h ago

Good ole S indeed. Everyone knew this all along. S was holding games back...Now where the hell is Orchard i want a word with him.

LucasRuinedChildhood13h ago

More info from the author of the article, I think: https://www.reddit.com/r/ki...

Quote:
"1) I was told this info from the producer of the game Martin Klíma.
2) He specifically said the game will have only one mode.
3) And this mode is 4K 30 on PS5/XSX and 1440p 30 on XSS.
4) He said that the game is already running north of the 30 FPS cap so the performance should be stable on launch, much better than KCD1.
5) The limitation was XSS because of the 10GB memory. He said that's why they wanted to make the game 25% larger.
6) Speculation on my part: the output resolution is probably upscaled and the reason why there won't be a 60 FPS mode is because it'll most likely be very CPU heavy, like Dragon's Dogma 2 for example."

Doesn't seem like they're adding a 40fps mode on PS5/Series X for launch even if they can handle it.

Sgt_Slaughter8h ago

I'd much rather have 1440p/60fps or even 45fps. Having just one, even with the Series S in mind, is disappointing.

franwex7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Remember when xbots were adamant that the series s won’t hold back the gen?

Microsoft just needs to let go of the mandatory parity. Who cares if your grandma doesn’t understand that a game cannot be played on the S. It’s not like it she can buy you a physical game for it anyway. Before buying the game put up a notice that it only works on series X. If you’re buying for a friend-allow for a refund.

Bam. Everyone is happy. Most series s owners are for casuals that want Game Pass anyway and most likely don’t purchase most games.

If the developers want it to run on S, let them figure it out.

Chocoburger1h ago

If it were Series X only then they'd only be selling to 25% of the Xbox Series userbase, and that's certainly not worth the time and effort into doing a port. Could just do PS5 & PC instead. No compromises needed.

Jin_Sakai7h ago

“During the event, the Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 producer also revealed that on PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X, the game will run at 4K resolution and 30 frames per second“

Another “creative decision” right? 🤦‍♂️

IHateNate7h ago

Amateur hour. Very incapable developer.

Outside_ofthe_Box6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Since you're not an amateur and clearly know more than them, can you over there and help get the game running on the S without having to sacrifice their true vision. Us gamers would really appreciate you using your wisdom for good 🙏

IHateNate6h ago

Thousands of games run just fine on S.

But Kingdom Come is the game that can’t. Must be one hell of a game!

franwex4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Thousands of games run on PS4 and on Switch. If developers want them to run on those systems. Fine. Those two platforms still get new games. Sony isn’t making studios also make a ps4 pro version, or Nintendo a wiiu version. Microsoft technically is.

IHateNate3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

If games like Alan Wake 2, GTA6, COD, hellblade all run on S, no excuse for this 100x smaller and 100x worse looking game to be held back.

outsider16242h ago(Edited 2h ago)

"Thousands of games run just fine on S.

But Kingdom Come is the game that can’t. Must be one hell of a game!"

Kingdom come 2 runs just fine alright. Its the SCOPE that they want. They had to cut it because of the stupid S series. Hellblade2 ran just fine too..but im pretty confident if it was just the X in mind, the scope of the game would have been much bigger.

IHateNate2h ago

So their scope is greater than that of GTA6 and warzone? Wow. Crazy

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