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Four Lies Told To You By The Gaming Industry (That You Forgot)

GP: "Everybody has told a little white lie at some point in their lives. And when I say everybody, I do mean everybody. Game companies included. Some lies are bigger than others, while others are just confusing and leave you wondering, 'Why would they lie about that?' But in most cases, a company will lie to drum up interest in their product."

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Godmars2904424d ago

There should have been a false advertising legal brew-ha-ha over FFXIII for the 360, especially considering the multiple ad "mistakes," but the fan bases were too busy arguing about it being on the system.

SPAM-FRITTER-1234424d ago

to be fair molyneux did allow you to have kids in 2.

and the guys below are right. you could write a whole article about molyneux's lies.....oh wait they have about a hundred times.

he is still the best developer on the market.

Lucretia4424d ago

peter is far from the best developer. when the only decent games he has made is black and white and fable 1, and the lies and promises he failed to meet keep coming he is one of the worst and over rated devs ever.

He can't make a decent game for the life of him. his last good game was fable 1

Falloutxii4424d ago (Edited 4424d ago )

"he is still the best developer on the market." lmao right...

SPAM-FRITTER-1234424d ago (Edited 4424d ago )

@lucretia

yeh he has only made 2 decent games.

what about:

Fusion

Populous

Syndicate

Theme Park

Dungeon Keeper

The Movies

let me guess your a new skool gamer.

Anon19744424d ago

Spam-fritter hit it right on the head. Some of the best gaming experiences I've ever had were directly the result of Peter and Bullfrog studios. Populous and Populous 2 were classics. Syndicate was fantastic, Dungeon Keeper was one of a kind as was Black and White. You want to see when his work started to go south, look no further than when he teamed up with Microsoft, and even then - Fable one and 2 were a blast.

As for his "lies" the guy was ambitious and passionate about his work. He talked tonnes with the media about what he wanted and what he planned to put into the Fable series and some of it didn't come to pass. Big freaking deal. You think he's the only developer out there that wasn't able to put everything into his games that they wanted to? This is why some developers won't even talk to the media during production - because some game fans can't handle it and in the end just start whining about "Uuugh. mmmm..But they said thissssss....." Of course games change during development. We'd hear more about it to if developers weren't afraid of a subset of gamers losing their freaking minds every time some element didn't go exactly as planned during development.

And, I'm sorry. The finished Killzone 2 looked far, far better than the E3 trailer we saw of supposed game footage. It was a gaff, but in the end Guerrilla Games totally pulled off and exceeded the promises of that footage. I didn't think there was actually anyone out there that still believed Guerrilla didn't deliver compared to that e3 video.

Denethor_II4424d ago

Peter is definitely a great developer of games and a pioneer of 'God' games.

crxss4423d ago

it's hard to forget lies told by VG companies especially when you have the internet available 24/7 to remind you and that we're the ones being lied to. every company that's lied will always have a tainted image to them.

my most recent favorite lie comes from the people at bioware (I doubt people will ever forget this).

Casey Hudson:
“the endings can be a lot more different. At
this point we’re taking into account so many decisions that you’ve made
as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It’s not even in any way
like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings
there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.....The endings have a
lot more sophistication and variety in them.”

Enjoy the rest: http://social.bioware.com/f...

SilentNegotiator4423d ago (Edited 4423d ago )

"let me guess your a new skool gamer"

You said that he "IS" the best, not "WAS"

You have confused "old school" and "living in the past". Pete's offerings have been very weak lately.

Hellsvacancy4423d ago

Populous is 1 of my all time favourite games, i really liked Black And White aswel

MaxXAttaxX4423d ago (Edited 4423d ago )

It had more lighting effects and an overall better picture than the trailer.

Phil Harrison slipped up and said all demos(in general) were real-time, but nothing about Killzone 2 footage actually being in-game, but to PS3 specs instead. So I don't see the big deal.

N4realGMRZ4423d ago

Some people are still in denial about Killzone......sigh......it looked nothing like the pre rendered demo.......in fact nothing does not even high end PC Games....i still think about it as the ultimate like this Gen.......honesly just move on about it!

ChrisGTR14423d ago

what ever happened to Nasim. he was one of the biggest ps3 fanboys maybe like 5 years ago on this site.

hot4play4423d ago

Project Natal/Kinect "Milo" demo anyone?

nanometric4423d ago (Edited 4423d ago )

Doesn't he go by Deadreckoning (or something) now?

EDIT: Also, what about TheMart and Zhuk, the infamous xbox trolls? Those were fun times...
BTW, TheMart, if you’re reading this, are you still waiting for MGS4 on xbox or not?

BISHOP-BRASIL4423d ago

Man, I've been out of N4G for like 2 weeks and the fanboy war is all out again?

Seriously, some of the comments under remember me of Mart, Nasim, Power of Green... Even LaChance came out of his bridge! It sure bring some memories up.

I guess those new gen consoles must be around the corner and it's gonna be 2005/2006 all over again.

MaxXAttaxX4423d ago (Edited 4423d ago )

Who's in denial? No one said Killzone 2 looked like the trailer. Technically, of course it didn't!
But you missed the point of what I said above. There are elements that look better in the actual game and it still ended up looking pretty great. Better than many were expecting.

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Bathyj4424d ago

How did I know this would mention Killzone. Give it up, its been like 7 years, and it was never true to start with.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

caseh4424d ago

'They never quite pulled it off, but it still looked pretty amazing'

So they were a bit over-ambitious, no big deal and the result was a pretty amazing game. Good enough for me. :)

Bathyj4424d ago

So youre a person who would rather focus on the overwhelming positives than dwell on the occasional negative?

Go forth and multiply sir.

SPAM-FRITTER-1234424d ago

why is it ok for guerilla to be over-ambitious but not molyneux?

all companies do it just molyneux does it more than others. he has a creative mind,which is rare in gaming these days.

MySwordIsHeavenly4424d ago

Because Guerrilla never told us the game would look EXACTLY like that. They never promised us that you could have kids in Killzone...

What they did was make a CGI trailer and tell us it was a CGI trailer. Then, the gaming community freaked out because they WANTED it to be in-game footage.

sphinct4423d ago

Killzone is a great franchise. I'm a longtime fan.

MaxXAttaxX4423d ago

The final build of Killzone 2 looked better than the 2005 trailer.
It had more lighting effects and an overall better picture than the trailer.

Phil Harrison slipped up and said all demos(in general) were real-time, but nothing about Killzone 2 footage actually being in-game, but to PS3 specs instead. So I don't see the big deal.
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@SPAM-FRITTER-123

Two different things. Tech demo vs missing game features? Nice try.

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Godmars2904424d ago

Honestly don't remember KZ3 ever being compared to the first KZ2 teaser.

Do remember Sony went to the trouble of offering a full breakdown of another commercial featuring a sniper bullet on PSN.

Jazz41084423d ago (Edited 4423d ago )

I'm not defending anyone but a lie is a lie. Killzone was never running in game as the sony camp said and was only a target render. The game itself was ok but kz 3 was terrible. This article is about lies and you could fill pages with lies sony has stated from the intro of ps2 to the ps3 and the more recent psn outage. Its getting so bad that one has to question everything sony says anymore. I'm not saying all company's are perfect and just picking on Sony but Sony had this coming and people on here wonder why Sony gets so much hate in the media and this is one of the many reasons.

Kahvipannu4423d ago

I actually also wonder why no more people mention Sony, they always have theyr heads in the clouds, and promise too much. This goes with many companies, but Sony comes in mind first when someone mentions the topic, and Molyneyx from devs ofcourse.

Clarence4423d ago

Yeah because M$ didn't lie about the 360 and RROD. One the biggest lies this gen. If I remember correctly Halo Reach didn't look anything like the shots that were first released.
Sony gets so much hate in the media because u and the other Sony haters wanted the PS3 to fell from the get go.
The media was bashing the PS3 before any of the issues you mentioned accrued.

Nice try.

kikizoo4423d ago

Wow jazz, always the poor delusional xfanboy in total denial, kz2 delivered more than expected, and you can find article with "kz2 visuals better than E3 demo"

so just, accept it, 2006 blind fanboy.

Silly gameAr4423d ago

The actual game looked better then the target render. Get over it,

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andrewsqual4423d ago

Over ambitious? That Killzone Target render has nowhere near the particle, volumetric and shadow and lighting effects going on like there was in Killzone 2 itself. We all know that the final Killzones 2 beat the render. Nobody was saying at E3 2007, "It looks crapper then 2 years ago". Eh Kinect? Remember that? I think Microsoft are still trying to say its awesome or something?

jimbobwahey4423d ago

Yeah really, I didn't know there were people who played Killzone 2 and honestly didn't think it looked better than the prerendered trailer.

Hell, I remember back when the game came out people compared in-game screenshots to the original trailer, and the final game blew it out the water in pretty much every single area.

Totally baffled that there's people out there who somehow think KZ2/KZ3 look worse than the first trailer that Sony showed, all it takes is a few minutes with either game to see that they went way beyond it visually.

YoungKingDoran4423d ago

"Killzone 2 is a first-person shooter that is a bit like Call of Duty 4 in that lots of things happen around you in a war-torn area where your squadron is fighting for survival."

lol
lots of things happen = COD

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Redempteur4424d ago (Edited 4424d ago )

Only one lie by molyneux ? ROFL

you could make an entire article about him

basilezz30304424d ago

molyneux only lied once ???
riiiiiiiiiiiiiight

LaChance4424d ago

I think the PS3 is the biggest lie of the industry this gen.

It's nowhere as revolutionnary are powerful as they said it was. And what happend to it being like 4 times more powerful than the 360 ?

fucadastates4424d ago

why only one bubble....?... ohh thats why :)

crxss4423d ago (Edited 4423d ago )

lol yeah I can see why he only has one bubble but LaChance kind of has a point here. Other than the promise of the cell processor, i also remember when Sony thought it'd have two HDMI ports, three Ethernet ports, and six USB ports back in 2005. Really hoping Sony can bounce back with the PS4. Feels like they didn't really research what people wanted in the PS3.

On the other hand we had Microsoft denying RROD reports for a long time lol

SilentNegotiator4423d ago (Edited 4423d ago )

Changes from the unfinished ps3 prototype OVER A YEAR before launch isn't the same as a "lie". It's not like they aired TV ads promising multiple HDMI ports and such.

Kahvipannu4423d ago

For saying something that is actually good point, or saying something that is against the corporation, or the plastic box you love?

Can't tell which one/s

Yes, PS3 hype was ridiculous, and many features/capabilities after that.

glennco4423d ago

don't bash sony on n4g. your disagrees will always far outweigh your agrees. my point is you are wasting your time. fanboys are no different from religious zealots. go and tell a christian their religion comes from astrology and see where you get.

Shadow Flare4423d ago

Nathan Drake took a dump on the 360

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callahan094424d ago

You're just making stuff up, aren't you?

NastyLeftHook04423d ago

LACHANCE....there is no console game on the face of the earth that looks as good as uncharted 3, so technically you are wrong.

and 4 times as powerful? maybe not, but is it more powerful? an undeniable hell yes.

stevenhiggster4423d ago

Actually I'd say GOW3 looks better than UC3. Maybe just my opinion but either way there isn't much in it.

humbleopinion4423d ago

If your answer is "undeniable hell yes", how does it explain the fact that the most demanding games actually run worse on the PS3 hardware? More powerful hardware should run the games better.

What is your scale for measuring how powerful a piece of hardware is? "no game console looks as good as uncharted" is not a technical argument but rather just a subjective observation, and other people can similarly claim that other console games not only look "as good", but actually look better.

And on topic, I'd say that one of the funniest lies this gen was when Sony claimed that "rumble is a last gen feature and this is why we removed it" after getting sued by immersion for patent infringements (and then bringing the rumble back):
http://www.1up.com/news/son...

The quote is from Phil Harrison by the way, who now moved to Microsoft. So I'm expecting equally entertaining comedy next gen.

Horny4424d ago

Epic could be on there with all the bullshots they release to promote their games.

Also add gametrailer. It was a racing game, forgot which one, were they did a graphics comparison and used ps3 footage for 360 and vice versa then claimed 360 had better graphics.

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There are no "thoughtful" ads in video games, EA

There are no thoughtful ads in Video Games, EA. Leave them be.

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northpaws16d ago

I think the only type of games that can gets away with it would be sport games, having those sponsors ads on the side like on real life.

But don't put freaking Doritos ads in Star Wars or something, it breaks the immersion. If it is a pop-up ads, then big no.

Hofstaderman16d ago

EA can thoughtfully eff themselves.

Makersbreath216d ago

EA coming back for the crown of being perceived as the worst company in gaming.

Chocoburger16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

One of my favorite series is the THPS franchise, and it was packed with ads, but it didn't bother me. Posters for skateboard companies, JEEP, and Nokia phones. It did sort of fit in with the game world, but that was the past, these days ad would be intentionally intrusive or unskippable loading screen type of imagery. Ugh, I know EA would do it in a horrible fashion. Screw them.

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Square Enix Is Going Multiplatform; The Layoffs & Its Past Don't Inspire Confidence

After its latest games didn't meet sales targets, Square Enix is going multiplatform but the company's track record isn't convincing.

Scissorman17d ago

Square Enix been multiplatform for decades, a few exclusively-deals doesn't make them any less multiplatform.

fr0sty17d ago

Nor is selling their games on a console with only 25 million install base going to bring their sales to where they hope they will be... Unless they somehow manage to dumb down FF7 trilogy to work on switch, they aren't going to have much luck. They already released it on PC, after all.

anast16d ago

Where are you getting that number?

SegaSaturn66917d ago

It kind of does, giving preference to a certain platform by timed exclusivity. Console ports generally feel superior. Legend of mana PC port extremely broken

neutralgamer199217d ago

Sega

It doesn’t when square themselves didn’t want to fund the development of remake. It’s only after the success of the 1st they realized their mistake but now contract is signed. If it wasn’t for Sony there would be no FF7 remakes. Same goes for silent hill 2 with Konami. They don’t want to fund AAA budget. Companies like PlayStation and Nintendo get blamed when in reality they are saving some of these franchises

Remember sega didn’t want to fund bayonetta and epic games didn’t want to fund another gears of war. It’s easy to blame console makers but they are the ones taking the risk and paying huge upfront costs without seeing the final product. FF7 remake trilogy won’t be coming to Xbox now or in the future. PlayStation and PC is what square signed up for. Sony paid them more than they would make from Xbox sales.

ravens5217d ago

I just wonder when everyone is going to demand that the Square Enix exclusives with Nintendo come to PS and Xbox. Or it's just the PS exclusives that matter lol

phoenixwing17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

I'd love for the nintendo exclusives to come to pc or ps5. They'd actually be playable then.

neutralgamer199217d ago

Raven

Exactly and that’s where square enix does more exclusive than any other platform. Gaming is square has always been very unrealistic with their sales expectations. Remember when tomb raider reboot sold 7.5 million and square said it wasn’t enough. They need to spend less on development and have more realistic expectations from sales.

And those thinking games being not on Xbox makes a difference don’t understand we have a decade plus of data showing square enix games having less than 20% of their multiplatform sales on Xbox (final fantasy series) and Nintendo consoles aren’t strong enough to run any current games. Nintendo switch should be as strong as Xbox one x atleast but we all know that’s most likely won’t happen

RoadRacer17d ago

@raven

thing is, as neutral said in their comm, the switch isn't strong enough to run flagship SE games
i think what SE does is, it makes unique games for switch only so that it has something for that console too. Thats where all the "underlined sans" rpgs go to mostly

maybe things will change when Swtich 2 drops cuz that's gonna be as strong as ps4 afaik from the rumors flying around

TheGamingHounds17d ago

@Scissorman

Your point is valid enough but when the icon of this company is limited to one console in timed-exclusivity, it means the company has crossed the line. By some degree at least

All things aside, Square itself stated "aggressive multiplatform strategies" so we all know what it's talking about

Scissorman17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Then the headline should read "Square To Drop Exclusively Deals in Pursuit of A Sweeping Multiplatform Strategy". I don't recall this argument when Square Enix released Bravely Default, Octopath Traveler, and Triangle Strategy on one platform. And even if FF is the icon, not all of its titles have gone to one platform. We're talking about three games, one of which is already on PC. Did Square suddenly go 'multiplatform' after it released subsequent Tomb Raider sequels on more than just the Xbox? It's just a silly way of putting it.

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TheGamingHounds17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

SE needs to go all in optimization. Broken PC ports won't help its case, especially with big releases like mainline Final Fantasy

Asterphoenix17d ago

It's actually simple. What doesn't inspire confidence is Square allocating their budgets on the wrong projects such as Forspoken, Avengers, Babylons Fall and Foamstars.

Square has always been multiplatform since PS3/360 days which 80 % of their games are. People kick up a fuss over PS exclusivity but not Nintendo which has more exclusive projects console exclusive from Square.

FF16 has done ok but not enough to fix the blunders that the past mistakes Square has made with some of their projects. FF7 Rebirth is unclear we'll see a PC release for sure so it's hard to say so far not as good as they would of liked.

Then again unrealistic expectations. If it weren't for Sony these games would at least had another 2 years development time. So some people need to be realistic in that regard.

Scissorman17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

It's the blunders that set those expectations so high. If you remove those from the equation, I bet the sales numbers would be more than stellar. Square believes it's okay to release a pile of risky, middling, garbage because the big boys will ultimately subsidize the cost. Don't worry if Forspoken sells poorly, FF16 will surely sell 10 million copies to balance that right out. Oh wait, it only sold like 4 million. Well that's a disaster. Meanwhile games that sell 2 million units with comparable budgets are deemed successful.

thorstein17d ago

I would also add that FFXVI, which I loved has a hint to one of their biggest problems: the number 16.

It's a great franchise, but that's all they've become known for. Dragon Quest is my favorite all time series but it's like they don't know what to do outside of those two IPs.

Valve never makes trilogies. The idea is that they don't want to become stagnant. Gabe Newell hates the number 3.

I can't imagine their talent wouldn't want to try a new RPG.

RoadRacer17d ago

Square Enix just really need to revise its expectations. Maybe consider a change in strategy on dev end as well. Multiplat will help for sure but only good games that are marketed well will sell

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Square Enix Preparing for Layoffs in U.S. and Europe Amid Heavy Restructuring

In a town hall that took place on Monday, Square Enix president Takashi Kiryu reportedly confirmed imminent layoffs in the U.S. and Europe.

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lelo2play20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Square should ask Sony for more money...

Outside_ofthe_Box20d ago

Square should ask Microsoft to buy them out...

FinalFantasyFanatic20d ago

@Outside_ofthe_Box,
So that Microsoft can close down the studio after doing nothing with them? Right...

Outside_ofthe_Box19d ago

@FinalFantasyFanatic

That's exactly my point...

gleepot20d ago

Sad but true. It's the consequence of a shift in player habits, massive overhead, and out of control budgets across the industry.

blackblades20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

What did NA and EU did anyways? Just translate or something? I would say it might help them get back to there roots but DK.

Hofstaderman20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Actually, you are correct they play a hand in localization especially in Europe with the many languages. That and marketing.

nommers19d ago

Marketing for SE has been poor lately so these layoffs make sense if true.

Profchaos20d ago

Yup videogame crash 2024 edition

_Decadent_Descent19d ago

Hope so. Industry needs a good crash to shake it up again.

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