PS54 responds to Gamasutra's article "Knocking Down Trees" by defending shooters who don't have destructible environments, arguing that in many ways, destructible environments is detrimental to the overall design and enjoyment.
Gamasutra's article is found:
http://www.gamasutra.com/bl...
Wccf tech writes: "Kingdom Come Deliverance 2's scope was impacted by the Xbox Series S hardware limitations, as developers could only make a game that was 25% bigger than its predecessor."
This is the issue with things like this
Xbox Series X is apparently to MS the worlds most powerful console
However the Series S is obviously a limitation because it’s underpowered and developers have to go for parity.
So what’s the point of the world’s most powerful console if you are holding third party developers back? They aren’t going to push themselves if they have to think about the weakest console.
The issue wouldn’t be as bad if it was just Xbox but you are also affecting the PS version aswell
I think developers need to start just taking advantage of a console and if one of them can’t do X Y and Z then f*** them…why should the others suffer. What’s MS going to do? The bigger the franchise the least chance MS are going to tell them to f*** off. Baulders Gate 3 seemed to have stood their ground and suddenly their “strict” parity rule didn’t really matter. We suddenly got super optimisation efforts for the Series S that got things sorted.
I agree, and the sad part is use normal folk saw it the second they announced their plans.
Agree 100% this is why I didn’t want the M$ Monopoly, now PS5 version will be held back too.
If PS5 Pro comes out and Series S is still a thing it’ll be interesting what differences and what devs choose to do. Really hoping Rockstar pushes the PS5 pro with GTA6 and we get the best version possible.
Good ole S indeed. Everyone knew this all along. S was holding games back...Now where the hell is Orchard i want a word with him.
More info from the author of the article, I think: https://www.reddit.com/r/ki...
Quote:
"1) I was told this info from the producer of the game Martin Klíma.
2) He specifically said the game will have only one mode.
3) And this mode is 4K 30 on PS5/XSX and 1440p 30 on XSS.
4) He said that the game is already running north of the 30 FPS cap so the performance should be stable on launch, much better than KCD1.
5) The limitation was XSS because of the 10GB memory. He said that's why they wanted to make the game 25% larger.
6) Speculation on my part: the output resolution is probably upscaled and the reason why there won't be a 60 FPS mode is because it'll most likely be very CPU heavy, like Dragon's Dogma 2 for example."
Doesn't seem like they're adding a 40fps mode on PS5/Series X for launch even if they can handle it.
I'd much rather have 1440p/60fps or even 45fps. Having just one, even with the Series S in mind, is disappointing.
Remember when xbots were adamant that the series s won’t hold back the gen?
Microsoft just needs to let go of the mandatory parity. Who cares if your grandma doesn’t understand that a game cannot be played on the S. It’s not like it she can buy you a physical game for it anyway. Before buying the game put up a notice that it only works on series X. If you’re buying for a friend-allow for a refund.
Bam. Everyone is happy. Most series s owners are for casuals that want Game Pass anyway and most likely don’t purchase most games.
If the developers want it to run on S, let them figure it out.
If it were Series X only then they'd only be selling to 25% of the Xbox Series userbase, and that's certainly not worth the time and effort into doing a port. Could just do PS5 & PC instead. No compromises needed.
“During the event, the Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 producer also revealed that on PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X, the game will run at 4K resolution and 30 frames per second“
Another “creative decision” right? 🤦♂️
Since you're not an amateur and clearly know more than them, can you over there and help get the game running on the S without having to sacrifice their true vision. Us gamers would really appreciate you using your wisdom for good 🙏
Thousands of games run just fine on S.
But Kingdom Come is the game that can’t. Must be one hell of a game!
Thousands of games run on PS4 and on Switch. If developers want them to run on those systems. Fine. Those two platforms still get new games. Sony isn’t making studios also make a ps4 pro version, or Nintendo a wiiu version. Microsoft technically is.
If games like Alan Wake 2, GTA6, COD, hellblade all run on S, no excuse for this 100x smaller and 100x worse looking game to be held back.
"Thousands of games run just fine on S.
But Kingdom Come is the game that can’t. Must be one hell of a game!"
Kingdom come 2 runs just fine alright. Its the SCOPE that they want. They had to cut it because of the stupid S series. Hellblade2 ran just fine too..but im pretty confident if it was just the X in mind, the scope of the game would have been much bigger.
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Tales of the Shire has many hurdles to jump to live up to the J.R.R. Tolkien masterpiece, and magical elements might be its most pertinent one.
Call of duty levels are designed for close combat and "Rambo" style of run and gun game play. the style is actually the "twitch" type of gaming like Quake and Unreal back in the day where the fastest trigger wins.
Bad Company 2 levels are designed for teamwork, vehicles, and holding down certain areas of the map. The destruction adds to the realism of the game. Would be kinda dumb to have a tank that couldn't blow up a building. teamwork and tactics win out in this type of game play.
Battlefield 2 levels are designed for the semi realistic feel of Battle using multiple aircraft, vehicles, ships, attack strategy, moving from point to point, and securing the battlefield as a whole. All most like playing a real time strategy game as so many pieces need to come together for victory.
I just don't think the writer understands that every FPS has a different style of game play and actually they all do it well for the games mentioned here.
"Clearly destroying a house people are hiding in, so they can no longer hide in it is not strategic and is a complete gimmick.
CLEARLY.
Clearly if they were to remove everything that characterized the gameplay it could one day be more like CS.
...and that's why BLOPS is awesome."
wait what???
Whats wrong about asking for more from devs for your £40 investment. Whatever is possible i want!!! i dont want games to get generic because of devs laziness its there job to push boundaries!
lol at the comments and lol at BC2 not being a strategic shooter....While I agree some games don't need destructible cover, BF is anything but a lazy game or poor shooter.....it's a fantastic game and I can't wait for BF3
Honestly, I saw a lot of COD fanboy talk in that article
Both articles were ridiculous. Call of Duty and Battlefield couldn't be more different if they tried, so there is no reason to dictate that they must play by the exact same rules. Still, light environmental damage from explosives would be a nice addition to CoD just to keep things interesting and encourage players to use different weapons and strategies.