PSP2 Phone Running Windows 7 Mobile Spells End of the iPhone

J Lynch: "Everyone knows that the Sony VAIO computers have done very well running on the Windows platform (like 99% of non-Mac PCs). Most still remember that Microsoft had approached Sony with a partnership back in 1997 to use Windows CE on the PS2, but when Sony felt MS wanted too big a stake, MS was sent on their way with Sega and the Dreamcast and inevitably the Xbox brand."

[ginsunuva]

The problem with having a powerful gaming phone is the battery life.
You'll play, and then you have to call 911 because you got an epilepsy from Super Stardust Portable, but your phone is now out of battery.

[D4RkNIKON]

There is no way first off that the PSP would run windows 7 mobile. Second off I have never come across a windows mobile device that doesn't fail to appeal to the masses. Or just FAIL like the KIN

[sinclaircrown]

because??

@below: That's exactly what he's thinking. Fanboys would be so butthurt if they knew just how much Sony and MS actually collaborate on things outside of gaming consoles.

[darthv72]

WM7 is pretty slick. Or are you thinking fanboyish the whole MS vs sony thing?

[RememberThe357]

It would probably run either a proprietary OS or Android. I wouldn't invest in anything Microsoft has for the modile market at this point.

[Baka-akaB]

"just how much Sony and MS actually collaborate on things outside of gaming consoles. "

True , except that the psp2 would still be at least half a console ... and there are other alternatives like inhouse interfaces and , well simply android .

Before calling other fanboys , just think about it for a sec ... win mobile 7 will be heavily integrated to the live experience . Do you see a direct concurrent , trying to impose his own psn network or pactising with a few others like steam , settling down for microsoft's ? Simply put no

[Ju]

Currently WinPhone7 has 0 market. When it will release it faces the iphone4 and an armada of Android phones. And the remaining market is pretty much stuffed with the remaining vendors.

If anything I give Android a better chance. The X10 was one of the first running Android. Win7Phone is what Zune is to the ipod. A niche market.

[Dramscus]

My vote would be android. It's versatile enough to run the whole show properly. Open enough for sony to modify it how they want, and it's already got an app market which is something any iphone competitor needs out of the box.

[rbanke]

I have a VAIO right next to me running windows 7, You can buy/rent Sony movies on a Xbox360, Sony makes iphone/ipod compatible products...

As much as some people would love for these to be sports teams that they need to cheer for, they arent. These are businesses, and when there is money to be made, they will make deals with other businesses regardless of competition in other markets. In short, who gives a fuck what company makes x product as long as its good and WM7 is looking pretty good from what I've seen.

[Baka-akaB]

it only works when they arent competitor on a same segment and market . The MS/sony cooperation worked with the sole idea of well , Sony not giving a damn about pc , aside from the selling hardware aspect .

In the case at hand however , it is obvious some companies like ms , sony , google , and some others , try positioning themselves as content gateways and "all in one" solutions , via push of their hardwares combiened with their own network and softwares . It becomes then tricky for them to further support a concurrent .

Sony wont push win mobile 7 and its xbl integration , when they themselves try pushing xmb and psn integration with their products

[kneon]

There are some quite good windows mobile phones, they just get crappy marketing and don't have the plethora of crappy apps that the iphone has. HTC has made a few really good ones as have others.

But I doubt windows 7 mobile would be on the PSP2, and it has nothing to do with it being a Microsoft product. SEMC have been moving more towards android. But then Android is just mobile linux with a Java ripoff running on it. It would be better to just go with mobile linux or some proprietary OS for a gaming device, that way they can better tailor the OS to fit the needs of a gaming device.

[RememberThe357]

It's business. Exactly. This is not about being a fanboy or rooting for an other team. Baka made a great argument about Windows Mobile 7 being integrated with Live. Sony wont want to give it's users direct access it's competitor. If this was a regular SE phone then I could see it happening, but we are assuming that this is a PSP Phone and Sony wont want Live and the PSN on the same device.

Knowing how Sony does things they will either go their old school rout and develop their own OS or they will go the new school rout and pick up Android or some other operating system. But don't expect it to have Microsoft's name on it.

[thewrathman]

this should appeal fanboys on both sides of the fanboy divide.id happily purchase a psp2 phone.wether it runs on windows or not.and id love it to outsell the iphone.just too say fvck you to steve jobs and the apple fanboys.every versiopn of the iphone comes out with something thats old and touted as the new thing.and dumb people lap it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

a psp2 phone could have serious applications for linking to my xbl and psn accounts.throw in both xbl games and sony games coupled with achievements and trophies that sync with my consoles would be a massive win.

a phone like this can only be win win.if gamers lap a phone like thats up..well..its game over apple.every knows gamers can pioneer new tech like HDTV,blu-ray download only games..and probably 3dtv.

[qface64]

lol who actually believes this would be the end for the iphone anyone who even believes that is either blind or delusional

[rbanke]

I'm not saying I think Sony would use WM7 more than Android or any other mobile OS, I was just pointing out that to rule out another company simply because they are 'the enemy' is ridiculous.

[thewrathman]

rbank..these guys actually think that sony and MS act like the fanboys on this site.

money is money.if sony can make money from MS or vice versa.then its a deal.

[N4BmpS]

Sony and Microsoft on a console isn't a shocking thing, I welcome it, I hope I see it.

[morganfell]

This article is pure unadulterated tripe. Sony is already using Android and knows this is the far better choice for a mobile device.

Considering Sony's current very secretive agreement recently signed with Google, it should be an indicator to anyone capable of deducing 1 + 1 = 2.

[Conloles]

Yeah there will be no PSP2 phone, however WinPho7 will dominate!

[blackbeld]

@d4rknikon

Agree. PSP2 better run on Android. Cause with WM7 you have to reset you're mobile every day :(

Android suits PSP2 more.

[sikbeta]

There is a Lot of things going on Between Sony and Google, IF the PSP2-Phone ever exist, it'd have Android on it, but I'm sure the guys at Sony already thought about that and sure they can do it, the only problem is ERICSSON....

[exnihilonihilfit]

Would be a much better OS. The battery problem could be solved if there were in fact two separate batteries or at least programming that treats one battery like two different power supplies, one for phone operation and one for PSP operation, so the phone basically lets you know you can no longer use it as a PSP if you really want to keep using it as a phone for any reasonable period of time.

[TEFL0N_D0N_81]

Wow, break out of the fanboy mentality dude. You ever heard of the blackberry?

[ThanatosDMC]

That's a misconception about win mobile. You dont have to reset it every day. The only thing that people should understand is to treat the phone like a normal pc/laptop. Programs do not close automatically but are minimized when you do something else. Just go to the Taskbar and close them properly or switch to them to continue what you're doing since you could end up runninh 20+ apps withou realizing it till it slows down.

I'm using my HTC HD2 for the past week or so to frequent N4G. It's running win mobile 6, i think.

Also, this powerful phone is doing great with battery life so a powerful PSP2 would be awesome. I hope it supports 3G at the minimum with N wifi. I also, retrack my statement about not wanting touch screen on it. I feel like a dumbass. My renewed experience with the HD2 is amazing. Let it be the handheld that can only do everything. In Sony, i trust. Amen??? lol!

Note: Windows mobile market sucks ass. Dont buy anything from it. Most apps are free online just google it and learn about "cab" files.

[Dee_91]

than a jack rabbit on skiis

[bakasora]

And there are 50 million iPhone users out there.
The title just doesn't make sense.

[Hideo_Kojima]

WATCH THE CLIP!
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I doubt they would want that on the PSP2

[ABizzel1]

@ D4rknikon

Well Sony Xperia X1 rund windows mobile, as do some of their other phones.

But I doubt the PSP will use Windows mobile. If it does use a OS it will be Android. Sony and Google have been doing A LOT of business together over the past year, so may bet is on PSP droid before any other OS. And frankly I would rather have Android anyway.

[blumatt]

This would never happen. Period. lol I'd rather Sony team up with Apple for the OS than Microsoft. I'd love to be able to sync my PSPhone to my iTunes like I do my iPod Video.

[Ju]

Sony has Media Go! for that purpose. It does what iTunes does and integrates the PSN. Sooner or later they'll add a music store and there you have it.

Shouldn't be a big problem to add an Android marketplace either.

[zaphod777]

I think they would either run Android or most likely their own OS with a phone app tagged on.

Why does the author thinks Win7 would work better than Android?!? This author is on crack if you ask me.

[Christopher]

Extremely unlikely.

W7M is Microsoft's attempt to get into the mobile gaming market and compete with iPhone with Silverlight integrated features and API tools.

Sony's software would have to be ported to the new system rather than just utilizing the same chip technology they've already used for PS2 game emulation. Going with software emulation for old games only leads to an exponential increase in piracy potential, which they've already mentioned is why they haven't implemented such emulation on all PS3s so far.

These guys are direct competitors when it comes to the gaming market, which this device would include. Making such a deal would be affected by their ongoing competition in the gaming market and would be a huge strain on their relationship. This isn't the same as a phone running Windows OS using Sony hardware, since this is done by third-parties who are using bits and pieces from others. We're talking about a Sony phone running Microsoft software. I mean, the most likely next question would be... why not XBL OS on the PS3?

[sinclaircrown]

Microsoft currently has no big investment in mobile gaming. As much as this is only a rumor, and probably not true, I just want to point out that they're not competing in this market.

[Christopher]

***Microsoft currently has no big investment in mobile gaming.***

Might want to read up a bit on W7M, then. It's very heavy on the portability of practically any web-based gaming elements, porting from iPhone and XBLA, and utilizing Silverlight to improve gaming capabilities (API integration and online interactivity).

[randomwiz]

Microsoft is serious about the wp7 platform. Wasn't there something a few weeks ago where microsoft was paying top iphone devs to port their games or apps to WP7?

[Ju]

W7M clearly targets the iphone.

What better opportunity for Sony to team up with Google even more to be the third player in that market. If anything, I am sure, both, Sony and Google can see it from this perspective. Let M$ and Apple fight and walk away with the price.

[Kain81]

Android would be the best choice atm. for Sony, i think

[gtamike]

not news at all

[N4Flamers]

What i personally like about the psp is the size of the screen. turning this into a phone would mean that you either reduce the size of the screen or you're left with this giant device you have to hold to your ear. Im sure you can use a hands free kit or blue tooth but I have a droid that can use both and I rarely do.

I primarily use my phone to text and the droid excels in this category with its touchscreen and a keyboard in case I need it. I dont know if the psp2 will have either but that just further complicates this.

I hated my windows mobile omnia and would never use it over the android format. Its just more intuitive for me.

[Ju]

Size is not a problem. My PSP Go! is just a little bit bigger than my iphone. It has the superior Skype quality and works perfectly as a phone (size wise, etc). Smart phones even have bigger screen sizes now 4" and possibly bigger ones.

[Spenok]

Oh noes, 911 cant help me because ive been playin to many games. I can just see it in the news now. "Mobile Gameing has Claimed another life"

[Fray32]

I believe you mean a seizure, you can't get an epilepsy because it's a disease (or condition idk) however seizures are the result of having epilepsy which is what you mean

[NewNameNow]

First off, Sony would never use Windows to run their PSP2. Second it'd most likely be running an hd mobile version of the XMB. Third off, there is no way in hell it would EVER beat the iPhone no matter how dirt cheap they price it (highly unlikely) or features it has.

I don't say this because the iPhone is better but no matter what there will always be people who like simplicity over functionality or straight up apple fanboys.

[TROLL EATER]

so i can login to my xbox live gamertag on the psp 2 LOOOL

[Hyrius]

GoFanboy is truly one of the worst website we see on N4G.

Remember : http://n4g.com/news/502906/...

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http://n4g.com/news/505574/...

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[Fishy Fingers]

Stick "rumour" in there somewhere and you basically have free reign to write any old s*** you like.

[vgn24]

Quit crying fanboy.

[vgchica]

I don't think the author was saying this is happening. After reading the article, I was able to see it was an "article", not news or rumor.

[4pocalyps3]

windows mobile is the worst POS that has graced a phone. from experience it is super slow and laggy as hell. worst experience they should just put android on it or something. anything besides windows mobile.

[Random404]

Windows phone 7 is a complete restart of their phone os. The minimum specs will be very high and it will have a heavy focus on the user experience. It will also have xbox live integration. Having xbox live and psn and games for each on one device would be compelling.

[ThanatosDMC]

Windows mobile is actually pretty good in my experience and highly customizeable. I have an HD2 and battery life is not a problem even after heavy use of being online and serving as a wifi router for my gf's ipod touch.

I doubt that they will have windows mobile on it though since it is very easy to customize and probably easier to hack. I can run PS1 games on my HD2.

In my HD2:
PS1 games - 3
GBA - 576 games. yeah, a lot i'll never play like Barbie
Snes - 17

[gamingisnotacrime]

makes sense, specially after the iPhone expantion in games and multiple uses with apps and now the HTC and etc are paving the way for the PSP2 to be a real competitor to this very powerful portable devices phenomenom

[8thnightvolley]

i this that would surely give a sweet dent on iphones progress

[CrazyOrange]

you mean psp2 with achievements and live :D

why dont microsoft partner up with sony on next PSP only.

[SuperStrokey1123]

Even if it did happen, and it wont, it wouldnt cause the death of the iphone. Thats just silly talk.

Seems more likely to me that it would have a android system.

[NYPunkster]

I'll put money on it that the PSP + Win M 7 won't sell anywhere near iPhone numbers let alone become the iPhone killer. And I sincerely doubt that Sony would go with Windows for their PSP over say Android.

[whateva]

what's going on here?

[simplyRealistic18]

1. there not going to be a PSP phone

2. if there were going to be a PSP phone, it wouldn't run Windows mobile, it Would run Android

Android is open source and Sony Change the UI to whatever the please and it would have automatic access to the Andriod marketplace

and Google is about to launch an itunes competitor so you can download song irectl to your phone

btw this is how you guys get disappointed, you get over hyped about things

[xYLeinen]

Serisouly, not windows. Go for android instead, it's a LOT better. I cried like a baby when the first iteration of HTC HD2 came out with windows mobile.

[-SIXAXIS-]

Although this is highly unlikely (like 99.999% won't happen), it would be really nice for Apple to make an OS for the PSPhone. There are a few reasons for this. One main reason is that Apple OS's tend to be very lightweight and speedy (my MacBook Pro uses only 150 MB of RAM for the OS and services).

Also, people will buy ANYTHING with the Apple logo on it.

[Karum]

My only concern is whether or not the OS is suited to running the kind of games that would run on a PSP2. Windows Mobile 7 is surely suited to being obviously a phone but running mobile phone standard apps/games surely? Would MGS: Peace Walker or GOW: Ghost of Sparta run well on the WinMo7 OS?

If it could do those kinds of things well along with run good apps and be a phone with great phone functionality then I wouldn't mind it being designed on WinMo7 at all.

I don't think it will happen though, if it did it would end up running either on Android, something like Symbian ar Maemo or Sony would just design their own OS for it.

[dorron]

I don't think PSP2 will be a cell phone device, but if it was, I doubt it would run on windows. Android should be the way to go...

[KingPin]

this would be some funny stuff indeed. id love to see the sony and xbox fanboys debate this! :P
"its a microsoft exclusive!"
"no! its on a sony platform!"
"its multiplat!"
"no!, its only one platform you idiot!"

this will be some funny stuff for the non-extremists out there! watching little boys whine, cry and argue! :P

[GiggMan]

Why would Sony base their PS3 on Linux, and base their (rumored) PSP2 Phone on Windows phone 7? That makes no sense, if anything they would use the Linux based Android OS.

I would foresee Windows mobile 7 locked down worse than iphone..... Nah I take that back, almost as locked down.

[Gago]

Windows 7 is currently the best OS

and sony has always used windows with PCs, and Laptops

[silvacrest]

you realize we are talking about mobile OS here, right?

apple is king at the moment then comes android, i have no idea where win mobile 7 comes in

android makes more sense since sony already has a few android devices

[Karum]

Win Mobile 7 doesn't come in anywhere, technically. It hasn't been released yet.

[dkgshiz]

For example the "Kin"

[bramabull80]

PSP2 + Android 3.0 (Gingerbread) FTW

[prdn23]

Whatever the final product is, it will have "overpriced" written all over it.

[silvacrest]

but its gotta be in line with other smart phones, if you can get it through a mobile provider then that should help

but buying it unlocked i could imagine it costing as much as a new iphone

[coolasj]

Would like to take on that venture.

[Kyur4ThePain]

Man, I am going to be laughing for quite some time.
At the very least say that it might steal a small fraction of iPhone sales. But spell the end of it? Seriously...

[SkylineR]

I reckon. Just because it would have "Sony" stamped on it, doesn't mean it would kill anything. Specially a Sony Ericsson... *snickers

If Sony was to implement phone functionality in the next PSP design, it would have to brand it under Sony Ericsson, so I highly doubt it.
Sony needs to stick to home consoles, as the PSP Go showed they have no clue.

[jay2]

I don't see 'PSP2' having a phone bulid into it, if anything if you want to refer to it as something from apple, I'd say iPod touch, not a mobile phone though, no way. I also see it annouced by TGS and out in March.

[Revvin]

Sony are not competing with Microsoft with laptops so they use Windows on their Vaio line but they would not use a rival's OS for a console. Sony would either go their own way or more likely use Android as they have already spent significant time developing with it for their mobile phones.

[mimizone]

way too much risk for Sony to work with a division of MS on one of their next gen console. Possible information leakage between divisions during dev cycle of one of their main competitor is not good in my opinion.

[gamerz]

Android I could get excited about. Mobile windows 7, not so much.

[Counter Strike]

i dont dislike apple and i bought a Mac yesterday... its awesome!

[nevin1]

Thank You

[silvacrest]

FAR more popular, only second to apple OS, android is FAR more open in every aspect, im sure i saw some xbox related stuff on win phone 7, i no that could be removed for a PSPhone but still...

also the article mentions android but does not explain why windows would be better

[lilmetal]

My main gripe with the iPhone is that it doesn't have any buttons...
Hard to do any serious action gaming.

[alb1899]

Why will it be the end of the iphone, because of this?

I never have hear such crap in my young life!

[Kick-Ass]

I really dont know, I know the kin failed fast but thats because it was rushed. Ill wait for the windows 7 phone to get released before I judge the OS. It could be great.

[cpuchess]

Oh yeah I can see an adult carrying a PSP2 to a business meeting. That would make a great impression...

[ivant]

Apple has the best mobile OS .... & PC OS...with Mac OS X.

Sony should copy Apple and make their own OS based on OpenBSD and put it in the consoles, PCs, and Laptops....just like Apple has done with its products.

The advantages of having one OS for all its products are numerous

[DarkSpawnClone]

uhh the psp2 didn't get announced yet did it ... i hope its not a phone -_-

[PotNoodle]

Yeah, we know Sony collaborate on many things with Microsoft. But to collaborate on something like a gaming platform could potentially be a conflict of interest, who knows - Microsoft may want to bring out their own handheld gaming device as a PSP competitor?

Supporting the PSP like i said, would potentially become a conflict of interest by both parties.

Besides, integration between the PSP and PS3 is important to Sony, at least with content. Using two completely different systems would be a complete compatibility break between the two. Microsoft's platforms that they control (xbox, windows phone, zune, etc) all use their proprietary technologies (Silverlight, XNA libraries, C#, etc), so it wouldn't play nice with their other platforms.

[KiLLUMiNATi_89]

Im a iphone user and very satify owner too. Well its type funny in how the world doubted the android software and now the entire planet loves droid. OMG there are so many Ms haters, like holy crap windows 7 mobile aint even out yet like people jump to the conculsion too fast.

Just sit back and see what they gonna offer who knws they might make it better then apple's and googles software. Theres are to much frontrunners in this world,like people will hate something n then love it lol for example droid. Ane to b honest why wouldnt a psp2 phone with W7 software wont work, why cuz microsoft is the worst company ever, its pathetic. Xbox sucks,Xbox Live sucks,windows sucks. Everything they make sucks lol well stop supporting them then...............

[Argento-Nox]

Android has only been out a short time, yet it's taken more smartphone market share than the iphone. It's 2nd only to the Blackberry, which is no surprise considering it's used for phones by Acer, Samsung, LG, Motorola and Sony etc.

I'm not going to jump out and say the Win7 phone OS will fail, but it's competition already has a huge jump just being out on the market first. I don't see a lot of the mobile phone companies moving away from using the Android software, so MS is in uphill battle IMO.

A lot of people don't think Win7 with a Sony phone will be a issue, but if Sony ever considers a PSP phone or using PSN on mobile phones, then it does become an issue. Considering that Sony is partnering up with Google to release Google TV on Sony Bravia TV's, I just don't see Sony using the Win7 OS for their phone when their Xperia phones already use Android 2.1 OS.

[karan8624]

People think it wont because Sony and MS have competing consoles. Thats a different department completely that their mobile devisions, they dont influence eachother

[Knightofelemia]

It seems like a great idea a phone running Windows 7 but if this thing does come to see the light of day how will it talk to the PS3 when I plug the damn thing up to it.

[USEYOURFIST]

windows mobile is the most flexible os people just fail to like it as its not as flash as an iphone ui or android. all you need is FPSECE to prove it

[Apolloeye]

Since Sony already work with Google to have the Android OS in their Bravia TV's and new range of phones I find it very unlikely that the PSP2 would run Windows (plus it's also very slow).

Now a good name for a PSP Android hybrid device...

PS Droid
PSP+
PSP2GO
PSP3
PlayStation Portogle?
iPSP
PSP Chrome
...

[Argento-Nox]

I really doubt Sony would use Windows 7 phone OS for several reasons. For one, Sony phones like their new Xperia, Xperia mini and Xperia Pro use Google android 2.1 as well as their own proprietary software. Secondly, Sony has a deal with Google for Google TV on Sony's next generation TV's. The next big thing in the N.A market will probably be TV on the move, so Sony might as well have Google TV on the go or their own proprietary software for Sony phones.

Sony may use Windows 7 for their Vaios, but it's mainly due to the fact that MS software is the software general standard (unlike Linux etc.). Mind you, if Googles new computer software starts eating into Windows 7 market, expect Acer and some other computer companies to move away from using MS software as a standard.

[OSU_Gamer]

wow, people already calling it the iphone killer. Gotta love Sony fanboys. People don't get iPhones for games.

[gypsygib]

Know how I know the author of this article is a moron? He said 99% of non Mac PCs are Sony's - that's patently wrong, the majority are HP, Dell, ect. He is talking shit and probably knows it, get those web hits asshole.

[Condemnedman]

Yeh right kill off the iPhone lol who is running this site it's not news for gamers , it's news for insecure fanboysboys who like to spout their own tosh and he sheep who click on agree/disagree that fits in with their one sided view.
Saying that I have noticed a bit if a backlash against these idiots lately . Gamers revolt :0)

[DoucheVader]

I highly doubt an MS OS would appear. Android is a high likelyhood.

[DoucheVader]

PSP2 would likely be Android, this article is completely wishful thinking and provides no substance other then -- hey wouldn't it be neat if????

Seriously if you are going to waste my time with an article at least take some time to research and make it thought provoking. Honestly a letter to Santa would have more substance.

[Morituri]

Never bet against the mindlessness of apple zombies at eating up anything apple spews out. Never!

[hiredhelp]

f there was another platform to run on thats as widly used as windows then they would change.its all about popularity unfortunatly. apple hasnt got the wider range like microsft .i say unfortunatly because windows is a good way for microsft to update and make a silly profit on software. new windows get thrown out when they feel like it but only a select few that are any good.
now they working on windows 8 by 2012 so all these apps on phones running windows 7 be old stupid isnt it.however i want a psp 2

[etownone]

Wow!!
Please let this be true....

I for one am definitely buying a Win7 phone and I'm buying the PSP2 when it comes out .... Put it both in one package and it will dethrone not only the iPhone but the 3DS as well ........

AND.... Might even put an end, or at least a hold on the fanboy wars for a while.

Think about it ... One of the main features of Winphone7 is the connectivity with Xbox live and it's arcade game, and with the library of Sony games and a Sony app store for games ....

Both on one handheld console !!!
Sounds wayyyyyyy too good to be true

[Darkfiber]

Sony? Running something other than their own crappy proprietary software?

PSP phone would be cool, not that I'd be able to get one here since our providers SUCK