Editorial: Note to Sony - End the Stupidity

Jordan Lund lays into Sony for the Activision fiasco, and offers advice on how to repair the rift before it becomes irreparable.

Excerpt: "So here's what you do: you need to send out representatives RIGHT NOW to every major developer - Activision, Electronic Arts, Ubisoft - developers without whom your console cannot survive. You need to clue them in, IN PERSON, to what is going on with your plans for the Playstation 3:

"Yes, the PS3 slim is real, yes, it's coming in October with the PSP Go! (or whenever), yes it will have a price cut."

We know you can't tell the public this, but there is absolutely no reason to keep this information from developers, you know, the people who help keep you in business; remember Steve Ballmer: "Developers! Developers! Developers!" Based on Kotick's threats, this is exactly what you are doing - keeping vital information out of the hands of the people who can help you capitalize on it."

[saint_john_paul_ii]

heres one way to end the stupidity, stop creating articles about giving advice to a company that already has employees that give advice.

This is just another Fail Article.

[Tony P]

We really need to stop pretending the general public knows what's going on with either of them.

[Tempist]

Developers do not live in a bubble. There's a relationship between both parties and together they work together to make monies. If Activision decides to cut out 1/4- 1/3 of their revenue by not supporting the PS3 / PS2 then investors are not going to be happy with the management in the company.

[cayal]

lol does this idiot think Sony and 3rd party companies ignore each other? Just because the public doesn't know anything doesn't mean 3rd party companies don't.

I have no doubt Sony reps and Activision Reps have spoken already. We won't ever know what was said.

[eagle21]

Ignore the bullcrap articles. :)

[morganfell]

Stooge? What an appropriate name.

Editorial note to Gamestooge: End the Stupidity. Close your site.

Amazing how all of this is the fault of Sony. They offer a superior piece of hardware, plenty of publishers demonstrate they make more money from Sony, they bury the competition with games at E3 (I was there, where was Gamestooge? Yet that isn't enough.

Where is the Gamestooge article called Note to (insert Publisher name here) End the Stupidity of Trash Games. Hint: You can start with Activision and the crap they have produced.

Where is the Gamestooge article called Note to Microsoft: End the Stupidity. And then Gamestooge details the overpriced, faulty hardware fiasco.

Where is the Gamestooge article called Note to Nintendo: End the Stupidity. And then Gamestooge goes on to detail the Nintendo shovelware fiasco.

Cheap site, laughable writing, useless conjecture, soapbox antics, moronic conclusions, sophomoric whining, and no reason to have this inflicted on any individual with an IQ over 5.

Two parties need to apologize. One is Gamestooge and the other isn't Sony.

[Headshot81]

If you go to best buy or any electronics store that has a local competitor, they will pricematch the same product, if you find it cheaper,that way they keep your business. So i kept looking around and finally saw the 80gb $399.99 ps3 for 349.99(Hint:the store has a blue uniform, but barely sales any electronics,alot of software though). I went to Circuitcity(when it was still open,could go to bestbuy too)I got it pricedmatched with an additional 10%off the diff, so I payed $345.50, now people say"only $55bucks ?", but if you think about it, I only paid $45 more than a Xbox360 pro model thats $300, and i got a bigger harddrive and bluray player, intergrated wifi, for only $45. If something looks out of reach, don't be so quick to give up, there's always a way to get it!!!!!

[Boody-Bandit]

Go to usenet group alt.games.video.xbox (or a google search) and you will learn who Jordan Lund and Jonah Falcon really are. They are the biggest Sony bashers I have ever seen on the internet. They despise anything Sony and have a fair amount of hatred for EA as well.

I see people here questioning bias all the time. Rest assured it's an open and shut case with these two. Anything posted or written by these guys is fueled by their hatred towards Sony.

[BiggCMan]

headshot81: you dont even need to do that. you could just go on amazon or tiger direct and fine a brand new ps3 anywhere between 300 and 400. some even cheaper if u can tolerate used items.

[chaosatom]

They should be banned on N4G.

[SRU9600]

I realize that Sony fanboys are loyal to the very end (gotta love 'em) but stop and think about what is happening here.

Activision is openly threatening to stop offering games on Sony's consoles. That is VERY SERIOUS and is a sign of how dark the days ahead are for Sony if they don't make some changes soon.

[Boody-Bandit]

I can't believe you actually think, or anyone for that matter, that Activision is going to p!ss away all the revenue they make from Sony hardware. Tell me you can't look in a mirror and keep a straight face when you say that.

Look at the numbers for COD:MW and WAW. Regardless of what they sold on other consoles is irrelevant. I am talking about the numbers on the PS3. Anything over a million copies is considered a success and they crushed that mark with both versions. The PS3's userbase is even bigger now.

So they are going to stick out their chest and act like terrorist trying to hold Sony hostage with empty threats and you believe it? Yeah go ahead Activision. P!ss away the potential of selling 3,4,5 (or who knows how many) million copies of MW2 because Sony wont cower to your demands. I'm sure Activision stock holders would just love that.

[morganfell]

Over 30% of all revenue generated last year was by Sony platforms. This includes EVERY platform. Anyone that thinks Activision could afford to toss that away on a boast needs to get a refund on their G.E.D.

[UnwanteDreamz]

I hope anyone with a critical mind and an ounce of intelligence would stop and think what this would mean for Activision.

I see alot of people commenting on how this would affect Sony but no metion of the other guys. Activision would half to go to their stockholders and explain a 50% decrease in revenue. People here commenting dont seem to realize that they will not stop support untill it is no longer profitable.

This guy who is threatining Sony dumped 60 mil worth of Activision stock last month. This was partly due to the fact that the stock for Activision was up 30%. Now he is going to cut revenue?

In a business sense what he and some of the less educated here propose is they say goodbye to that groth and take a step backward. Go get an education or stick to what games have better graphics because businee is not your thing.

[The Lazy One]

you pretend like if they stopped developing for sony platforms they wouldn't put the costs used on sony platforms towards something else to make up the revenue.

[Boody-Bandit]

If it were just that easy for a company to make money the world would not be in the position it is in today. You think Activision can just throw their resources anywhere and strike oil?

Good luck with that.

If it was that easy Sony would have dropped the price by now and recoup the loses later. But unlike you Sony knows that in this economy now is not the time to take chances. Trust me. Activision knows this too.

[GarandShooter]

@Lazy

Imagine yourself a shareholder. You want to KNOW, without a doubt, where the lost revenue stream is going to be made up. Not a generic, 'uh we'll just make more 360 games', but a concrete, researched plan with risk/reward analysis.

[Boody-Bandit]

Jonah Falcon and Jordan Lund.
I checked usenet and Jonah already took pride in posting this article written by this moron. http://groups.google.com/gr...
Need I say more about these two?

While you are there click on alt.games.video.xbox and watch these two in action. It's so sad their lives are consumed by such nonsense. The most sad part is they are both chronologically (<-- I typed that word with tongue in cheek) adults.

[FamilyGuy]

The developers knowing what's coming is the entire reason why sonys E3 announcements were all spoiled, Sony should tell them sh!t unless they want to.
As far as the threat goes, it's a give and take relationship, they'd both loose out on it and if sony were to simply bow down to their will Sony would be the one taking the ENTIRE hit.

[cayal]

ahh Jonah Falcon, I remember completely owning him.

[JL]

Thought that crossed my mind: What if Sony and Activision ARE talking. And Activision knows full well what Sony has in store. And knows that Sony are bringing a slim ps3 with a price cut this fall or holiday (not saying it's happening, just talking hypothetically here). And what if Activision and Sony have talked and Activision believe Sony is going to shoot off with the cut and slim and whatever they're planning. And as a result Sony and Activision have decided to play nice and set this all up. Just a PR stunt really. Starting a quarrel between the two to really get attention on both Activision and Sony (think Jerry Lawler and Andy Kaufman). Afterall, no publicity is bad publicity. And both these companies are DEFINITELY getting publicity right now cause of this.

Anyways, yea I know that's some lofty thinking there. Not true I'm sure, just some wild thoughts going through my head that I thought were funny.

[cayal]

I don't see it to be honest.

[Syronicus]

Pathetic. Yeah Sony, run out and divulge all of your corporate plans an see where that gets you...

Fail of an article.

[DelbertGrady]

How dare anyone criticize Sony!? Blasphemy!

[The Lazy One]

I know it's more complicated than that, but if they did support the PS3 less, they aren't going to sit on their hands and not invest anywhere else.

They might increase PC support or put some more money into Wii/DS development. idk what they'd do. I definitely know they wouldn't shrink one investment without investing the money somewhere else.

[N4realGMRZ]

"Over 30% of all revenue generated last year was by Sony platforms. This includes EVERY platform. Anyone that thinks Activision could afford to toss that away on a boast needs to get a refund on their G.E.D.
"

really you present great arguments sometime but in other cases u seem silly.30% of all revenues is correct we all saw the statistics.....But this is also across three platforms.....do you know what that also means? more production cost....more marketing cost aswell....please think aout the things u say when it comes to making money and business....separate ur love for game from what these companies is all really about.....30% of all revenues does not equal more money....just simply silly...

[masterg]

If Sony told developers when the price-cut is coming it would take under 5 minutes before it was all over the net.

[rucky]

So all retards are hopping on the Activision bandwagon now? This is like last years PS3 sinking ship version. Just let the two multimillion dollar companies handle their business.

[happyface]

This is a good article.

To think, sony has gone from the incredible ps2 to the sad state of the ps3 now, the worlds biggest devs talking trash about them and giving threats and acting like sony is weak

they would never dare say this in the ps2 days.............. sad

[Raz]

Screw Activision.

[Party Boy]

Yeah... because industry secrets can be kept now?

Everytime Sony gets negative attention, some knob thinks it's his job to step in and mediate. Boring....

[commodore64]

i KNOW!

Negative PS3 news... mediate... damage control... spin....
Just another day at work for the SDF.

cheques are in the mail, guys.

;)

[TheHater]

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[xabmol]

Note to TheHater - I agree

[Chicken Chasser]

AAA comment

[JonahFalcon]

Great advice. How much has Sony lost last year? $1B? $2B?

Sony and GM - both companies with great management.

[cayal]

lol Sony's new angle

'Hey, let's not pay guys who have a clue about running a business. Instead let's listen to guys who write blogs.'

[mastiffchild]

And they already saved three billion stremlining because of it-is that not good management. How you respond to a kick in the guts is what usually seperates the winners from the losers in the world of high end business, isn't it?

Oh, that and the decade of profit leading up to said kick in the guts. One bad year taken as a sign to slim down and all this during the biggest recession in recent times is obviously catastrophic management isn't it? Sony are already turning things around and are much bigger than just a gaming company-IDK but I'd guess a much, much bigger company than even Activision.

Activision are the ones looking like fools here because of their gobby exec mouthing off at Sony's pricing when they only have two franchises that PS3 owners care about anyway(and the obvious desire for MW2 to break the GTA4 records is as plain as the crap on his tongue too)-franchises that they milk on a yearly basis (esp bloody GH) and in the case of CoD even have a B team dev to make sure it does! Do we have to pay less cash for the always inferior Treyarch CoD games? Do Sony come out in public and say we should?

That'll be a pair of "no's" won't it? Because Sony have more respect for other companies than the lawyer happy, money grasping, non envelope pushing, fanchise milking chaops at Activision Blizzard. I find it incredible that they pushed EA off the "most hated dev/pub" throne even before their ludicrous lawsuit over Brutal Legend became public knowledge-and what an ass that makes them look, and directly in competition with EA who managed to recognise talent where the franchise hungry AB couldn't. I can't believe they think they have a leg to stand on tbh.

They don't with Sony either and really should have behaved with the same dignity Sony have over this and kept any details totally private and professional. That articles are now blaming Sony for a part of this when they're trying to resource every part of the PS3 to cut costs is so tight it's untrue. Learn to do business in private Activision.

[GarandShooter]

@ Jonah

By your logic, or lack thereof, MS should have quit the console business with the $1B+ RRoD debacle right? Try again.

[ghostface]

so you think someone who writes a blog about sony can do better?

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

Apparently, because otherwise Activision's own CEO wouldn't come out like this if he was clued in....

[cayal]

CEO is bluffing. If he was serious he'd threaten to drop support NOW, not in 2 years time. Unless he is a complete moron and thinks the PS3 will be the same price in 2011 as it is now, it's going to drop. He is just trying to pressure Sony into dropping it so consumers can buy it and their games sell.

[DragonWarrior_4]

Just because someone gets paid to give advice doesn't mean its good advice. You guys obviously dont understand how executive branches work. You dont get a job just cause your qualified, you get a job like manager @ sony because you know somebody. They dont care if we want cross game chat, they just care about getting their pay check. As a matter of fact we are the last thing on their mind. They spend their money on blow and hookers before they think about things that we want. Its only the devs that care, thats what betas and feedback are for.

[Stryfeno2]

Yeah...The stupidity called the PS3.

[-x.Red.x-]

nah... it's something with a X, a square, and a circle

[Obama]

the PS3 is a person? Imao what a retard.

[-MD-]

PS3 has a square and a circle not the xbox

teehee.

@ idiot- I'm pretty sure he didn't say anything about a person Obama.

[Major_Tom]

Why did your mom give you internet privileges you best behave if you don't wanna look like an assclown again!

[user3915800]

Its impossible to imagine Flopstation 3 without stupidity thats what got them here in the first place. I mean dont give sony executives all the stupidity argument and ignore the legion of fanbase they helped too, I meant treat them equally as the morons they really are.

[DasBunker]

yeah just like when they probably shared the PSP go! info with some dev/media/publisher and got leaked

[primordialmeme]

Guitar controllers, skateboard controllers, wow thanks guys! You're so neat. Please stay on ps3! Not.

COD4 had great online but they're milking it like they did every other franchise. Activision can go screw. They need sony not the other way around.

[Whiskers]

End the stupidity

[Serjikal_Strike]

dont believe this sh1t!

[jackdoe]

Lol. This is probably the funniest article I have read about the whole Activision/Sony thing!

[Joni-Ice]

Listen people, Sony has been in business longer than some of you who right these dumb articles. All of a sudden some CEO makes a comment and now Sony suppose to just drop their plans just to do what they want? GET OFF SONYS JOCK FOR ONCE. Tired of people talking Shyt about SONY. Since day one of the PS3 launch all I hear is crap about Sony. Sony should do this or that. Sony should drop price. Sony will fail. Sony has no games. SONY SONY SONY. SHUT THE F UP. Damn.

[Stevie Ray Vaughan]

Sony should scrap PS3 and PSN and start from scratch with PS4.

[rucky]

This isn't Microsoft we're talking about.

[Stevie Ray Vaughan]

Yea because Microsoft is having so much trouble with Xbox 360 and Xbox Live.

Stay on subject, kiddo.

[rucky]

So what makes your advice more credible? As far as I can see there's not even a slight hint of Sony scraping anything especially after E3. If you were even alive a few years ago you would know which company scrapped their console just to get a head start of the next console race. Do your research so you can save us from your stupidity.

[GarandShooter]

'Yea because Microsoft is having so much trouble with Xbox 360 and Xbox Live'

Yeah, RRoD, E74, no trouble at all. You're a disgrace to one of the greatest blues guitarists of all time, kiddo.

[peeps]

"Yea because Microsoft is having so much trouble with Xbox 360 and Xbox Live. "

see the original xbox lol bringing the 360 out was a smart busniness move and it saw them ditching the xbox after only 3 years. so i imagine they are more referring to the problems ms faced with the xbox so they ditched it and started again with the 360, which in turn i'm sure contributed to the hardware failures due to rushing a new console out

[shadow2797]

Wow, I can't believe this has been so blown out of proportion. Next thing you know, we're going to be in Death Con 5...

[Jack Klugman]

good luck with that.

activision says dance sony get your stupid ass up there and dance!

[GarandShooter]

Oscar, are you still mad that Felix refused your advances? :)

[jmare]

What. The. Fvck?

This is, without a doubt, one of the stupidest, most ignorant, poorly conceived, unnecessary articles that I have ever read. The author is a complete moron. Who knows better how to run a multi-billion dollar international corporation? The people that run it and have been for many years, or the asshat that lives with mommy and daddy and thinks this threat is serious? I think it has to be the asshat, I mean, why else would he publish such a steaming pile of rancid, retarded dogshit on the internet for all to see? He must be the Bobby Fischer of the business world. Note to asshat- Shut the Fvck up!

[maverick1191]

its a stupid little rant article well if i was sony i'd do this sony know what they are doing sony dont spill the beans on alot of info like this they wont come out and go all better guys we payed them big bucks so all is better now businesses will always be a step ahead then the media and public

[themyk]

sony has been around since like the 1950's i think they can run their own business.

[Dannehkins]

I don't understand why people are disagreeing with this comment. Sony have been around for so long and that is fact and they would have to know how to tun their own company because if they didn't, they wouldn't get anywhere.

This is the kind of stuff that baffles me. People abusing the Kudos button for some inane reason.

Activision should just concentrate on their own games and stop worrying about how to run everybody elses.

[Rifle-Man]

It's funny, there are Sony fanboys, and there are Xbox fanboys – but all of a sudden we have Activision fanboys too!

[HoofHearted]

If there's one thing I can't stand it's "couch experts" who think they know what the hell they are talking about.

Sony, as an entity, owns the rights to so much stuff Activision publishes (from some super hero games to some music that is under Sony Music Entertainment in the Guitar Hero games) that if Activision EVER pulled out, Sony could also pull out and screw them a million ways sideways.

On top of that, around 40% of Activision's revenue from last year was from the Sony camp, PS3, PS2 and the PSP (yes folks, the PS2 still sells a ton of software from Activision). If Activision ever gave the finger to the PS3, Sony could give the finger to Activision and stop allowing games on the PS2 as well. Lets see how much the STOCKHOLDERS like the company suddenly losing 40% of their revenue.

If you do a news search on google you'll see some REAL editorials from people in the know who think Kotick should shut the hell up. I'm talking about stock holders who have Activision stock and think he's being an egotistical twit.

Sony doesn't need to do a DAMN thing (though I price cut would be NICE for those who don't have one yet). Instead, it's ACTIVISION that should get down on their knees right now and apologize for the idiot they hired that doesn't know when to shut his mouth.

[Godmars290]

And where do all the press leaks come from? How did MS design the 360's CPU with Cell tech?

Yes, everyone's trustworthy.

[keysy420]

i dont think they need to address this at all this guy said next year to 2011 to drop support. the games for 2010 and 2011 are already in development. so you can take this for a grain of salt poin tis sony is ranking in the dough.
they have brought in approximately 10 billion in ps3 sales but have took a loss on every system. take in account the ps4 development issues the ps3 has brought back the moeny invest.
still however games have not been cheap to develop for on the ps3 and with the super high cost of developing the ps3 potential. it still makes sense that sony is hesitant on a price cut.
also the fact that the ps3 is going neck with the 360 excluding the year starting point o rthe ps3 is doing better than 360. doesn't warrant a price cut.
if you can compete at a minimal price 200 dollar hgiher than your competitor.
sony has set themselves up to make the ps4 really cheap given they expand on the cell. so even if you loose this gen your next gen will launch probably 200 cheaper than the competitior.

so ask your self this would you cut the price if you were sony.

[Highatus]

I laughed for a moment thinking this was from Destructoid...

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Man was i wrong.

[360usetobegood]

How about the stupid gaming media end the stupidity? I can prove this as well through countless articles about nothing, much like this one.

[morganfell]

Well these two ass clowns are hardly gaming media. They are a couple of 15 year olds with internet access. That is about the size of it.

[vagisil]

get banned again from another site? you are the worst droid ever. one day you think you are a dev, and the next you are an analyst.

morganfail= joke

oh and just to make myself clear...... fvck obama too, you gd muslim

[morganfell]

Really? Moronic remarks from a social troglodyte with one bubble. A Retard that uses adolescent means to beat a swear filter because we all know that by utilizing words beginning with an F and D you are automatically identified as an adult, ha ha. What a stain.

[Downtime]

So many people here are quick to assume that revenues are in fact profits. Morganfell, take a step back from the 1st string Sony Fanboy lineup and quit freaking out. While I agree that this site is kind of garbage, it's hilarious how so many fanboys want to believe that doing the same thing over and over will breed new results (thank you Einstein for that cliche).

has anyone ever taken a simple business class (beyond the super cool community colleges around)? Well if you did, you would in fact realize that just because Activision makes "revenues" on Sony platforms, they might actually be losing money developing for the PS3 and PSP units. It might be that the Xbox 360, Wii, and DS are easier to produce for hence they make more PROFITS!!

Anyways, that's just a different view on this whole situation between Activision and Sony. And many of you need to stop thinking you're coolest kids around and know exactly what's best for the CEO OF ACTIVISION and what's best for Sony.

[Andronicus]

loose lips sink ships....and swallow nuts, fu<k kotick

[JonahFalcon]

Every publicly held company is required to file both quarterly and annual reports. You can find the latest for Activision here:

http://files.shareholder.co...

and here:

http://investor.activision....

A couple of things worth noting:

Of that revenue (page 31 of the annual report):

407 million came from the Wii.
361 million came from the Xbox 360.
284 million came from the Playstation TWO.
241 million came from the Playstation THREE.
1 million came from the original Xbox

So net console revenue is almost 1.3 billion dollars, of that the PS3 represents just 18.5%. Out of the total 5 billion in Activision revenue for 2008 the PS3 accounts for 4.82%.

So, you might go “Wow, $241 million, that’s a lot. And if you add it to the PS2 revenue you get $525 million.”

But we don’t know what it costs Activision to reap this revenue from Sony products, the costs aren’t broken down by console.

We do have this quote though:

http://www.thetechlounge.co...

“Mr Kotick says his company paid $500 million to Sony in royalties and other goods last year.”

So if that’s true they paid Sony $500 million and took in $525 million in revenue. That’s $25 million in profit, but doesn’t take into account development costs. A single high-profile game can cost that more than that to develop (Grand Theft Auto IV for example is rumored to have cost $100 million.)

It’s highly likely that Activision would actually make MORE money by dumping Sony than keeping them.

[bligmerk]

So according to over-medicated Jordan Lund, Activision claims taking in $525 million from Playstation brand sales and paid out $500 million in royalties to Sony? So, Activision is paying out 95% royalties? How ridiculous can you two get? Don't answer, that is a rhetorical question. Sony charges about a 17% royalty to its third party developers which is about standard in the industry.

[Downtime]

Thanks for doing the research I was too lazy to do. You helped prove my point further. But it's okay, slightly more complex things than revenue tend to slip past most N4G users' heads (not fanboy/fangirl specific).

I think I would take it hard too knowing a huge publisher was dropping my console of choice. Good thing I own both a 360 and PS3. I'll still have my access to fun with MW2 if Activision chooses to push forward with this all too serious threat.

[biggame901]

This is why gaming journalism continues to get bashed. Because of idiotic crap like this from morons who don't have a clue about how business works. I agree that the PS3's price should be cut. But openly threatening Sony is just a completely baseless and idiotic move. Go head and end PS3 support, Activision. Sony will terminate PS2 development as well. Have a nice time trying to explain how you'll make up that revenue, which is by the way about 40%.

And by the way, Sony isn't just a game company, idiot. They own the rights to many of the movies and songs that Activision uses. You think they wouldn't put an end to your usage. Activision would be screwed in more ways than they can count.

As stated, Sony should cut the PS3's price. But when they are prepared to do so. Not at the demands of that pissant Kotic.

[kaveti6616]

Sony cannot drop the price of the current PS3 SKUs as of this point. Yes, this may just be my pure speculation, but as of right now I think that Sony is still losing money on each PS3 console sold, and the way they are making it back up is through software sales of First Party games. Sony cannot and should not drop the price of the PS3 right now. They need to refine their manufacturing technique but until they do the price will remain the same.

[forumcudude]

Sony can make their own games. If theres a company who need to sell games, then its Activision!

And gaming companies need platforms to sell games!
And PS3 is a platform!
How is that!?

Their just bloffing!

[Christopher]

Companies like Sony and Microsoft hire people to advise them on the best means to make money. These people are giants in the industry as a whole, make a crap load of money, and rely on making good business decisions to keep their jobs.

Bloggers on the other hand rarely have college degrees, don't know anything about how to run a business-let alone one the size of Sony with all of its departments-, and like to just b**ch and moan about stuff they don't know the first thing about.

[HoofHearted]

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Especially note the claim which is quoted "According to the report, Activision paid USD 500 million in royalties to Sony last year which, "probably still worked out at 400 per cent of the profit they made"."

500 million is 400 percent of 125 million. Profit, according to any accountant, is AFTER the costs of operating and production. So AFTER royalties and AFTER the cost of development and operation, Activision made around 125 million on the PS3.

That's a FACT unless Activision's books have a different accounting definition of "profit" and the 400% is right.

Activision isn't going anywhere. Just read any of the stockholders opinions on various web pages. THEY are the people who actually know more about what's going on, not us. When even some of the stockholders start calling this a stupid move, you know there's a problem.

My numbers are right as long as the article is right.

Acitivision is not going to throw away 125 million dollars of PROFIT. That's PROFIT, not gross or net revenue, but PROFIT (yes, all three of those terms, net revenue, gross revenue and profit, are different ACCOUNTING terms, do your homework...I did).

[peeps]

good read. and lets be honest, a lot of the people arguing on here don't understand business, hell i don't, which is why i'm staying out of it :p

[Enigma_2099]

You moan, whine and b*tch about price cuts, then after you get the consoles, you go out and drop $400+ on a TV to plug them up to!!!

[Magna Farta]

Thank you. Somebody had to say it.

I can't wait for N4G's supposed new filter software to come out, then we can start blacklisting sites like this that do nothing but rant, b*tch and whine, and claim THEY know what's best for the gaming industry.

Can only hope that Jonah Falcon gets banished to the open zone with the other failures of humanity.

[peeps]

i don't personally have a problem with the price, i mean i bought my ps3 at launch and spent half a grand on it lol that is an awfull lot for a student.

so you may think, why would a price drop matter if you already own the console? well, a price drop wouldn't directly affect me BUT the more ps3's out there, the more devs will pay the console some attention, the more ps3's the more games are likely to be sold and so devs have more money to spend to make better games and so on.

and also, owning a 360, the more competition the ps3 can give the 360, the harder the 360 will have to pump out great games and vice versa. competition is good and i'd really like to see the ps3's console sales close up on the 360's

[bligmerk]

This is Jonah Falcon, a laughing stock on Youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Don't be impressed by the equipment, he runs a public cable access show out of New York and that is just the cable company studio. All he gets are prank phone calls and he never seems to get it.

Now, he is writing for Gamestooge and shamelessly self promoting for click-throughs. Gamestooge is a voluntary game blog site and fellow xbot Jordan Lund has started writing for it, although Jordan Lund claims to have a debilitating congenital disease that supposedly prevents him from typing.

The reason these articles from Jordan Lund and Gamestooge, promoted by Jonah Falcon, seem like crap is because they are, garbage writing from garbage people from a garbage site. GIGO = Garbage In, Garbage Out.

[Magna Farta]

....after watching some of those videos, I almost feel bad for the guy. Of course he has nothing better to do than write garbage, because he doesn't even get respect on his own show.

I bet he got passed around like currency in high school, being bullied by the likes of the chess club and the male cheerleaders.

EDIT: Holy Sh*t, this guy sucks so bad even Howard Stern noticed. http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Further Edit: Here's his wikipedia, don't know whether to laugh or just feel bad for the guy. He probably wrote it himself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[HoofHearted]

Thanks for the head's up! Too bad your post came late to the story since most won't read it now =/

[bligmerk]

yeah, it is a little late for this particular topic but I noticed these stooges are starting to try to use N4G for their promotion efforts. They have posted a couple times before, and credits to most people commenting, were pretty much recognized as total tools.

[Gambeno]

they'll really be doomed! by the way that Howard Stern clip is hilarious.

[Ninjamonkey]

Yes becuase sony will be able to make sure all the hundreds of devs all over the world keep their mouths shut...

And why should sony cave in to these bogus threats? The ps3 is on about 22 millions units sold so far (according to Vg chartsso say +-2 mill)

The 360 has about 8 mill difference.

So thats 33% more ish

Knowing these figures, if activision dropped sony altoghether then their console profits would drop by about 40%.

Im sorry but that makes activisions threats a JOKE.

Its laughable that theyd make such a claim...

Sony has no reason to stand up to this, its just a developer (and not a very good one) making a huge fuss for no reason...

So yeah, SHUT UP activision...

[Death2494]

So it's pretty much a consensus that this article was ridiculous and unnecessary. Everyone one knows that Activision has to increase it's revenue annually to please investors. It would be capital suicide to do something like that.

Epic fail for the article.
I didn't buy COD:WAW and i'm probably not going to get MW2 if the multiplayer doesn't change or provide something new.

[JD_Shadow]

This beats the source filter somehow, yet my article can't get past it (check my submissions)?

I'm not quite sure what Jonah or Lund ever did in the gaming industry, but this is not worthy to be seen here. All this does is bash Sony, and act like it has all the answers.

Deal is this: Activision is probably bluffing (and for their sakes, I hope they are), and Sony is going to more than likely make a price reduction of some sorts this year. With any luck, as someone said before me, this is a collaboration between the two to throw the press off and make them NOT think that something is happening (and like I said before, those EA TV commercials with the PS3 suspiciously begin showing just as a rumor comes about that Sony would drop the price in conjunction with Madden 10's launch).

Keep in mind, too, that Acti is including the PSP as part of all of this, which it has nothing to do with the PS3's price. Why are they threatening to drop PSP support, too? It would be about the 500 million revenue they gave Sony for WHATEVER it was.

But if you think for a moment that they are going to do what you say they will, you're mistaken. There's always going to be a whistle-blower who LOVES to talk to the press that ALWAYS seems to be able to have them hide his or her identity. Want to know where the "anonymous inside sources" come from? There's your answer. Sony wants to protect leaks, I would agree. They might be holding off a price cut until they can find a time that doesn't have a rumor already so attached to it that everyone is expecting it.

So yeah, don't know HOW this got approved (or why my comment earlier got deleted).

By the way, if you agree with this, please do me a favor and bubble me up. I posted on the initial thread on Acti making this threat about how disgusting I thought it was, and fanboys attacked me for no good reason other than them being hurt by what I said. I could use my 5th bubble back (and to think I almost had 8 a year ago).

[InSpectre]

I don't quite understand Activision's stance on this. The PS3 adoption rate is faster than the 360 for the same time period, but the 360's sales rate is being hailed as a success. Odd stuff.

[andron]

It seems really professional to bring this up in a Tony Hawk: Ride promo instead of talking to Sony directly.

But they got some fanboy buzz, so it was probably worth it, right?

In all fairness their previous blog on the same matter was a bit more to the point: http://www.gamestooge.com/2...

[andron]

It should start with this inane blog rant.

It's always priceless to hear one delusional fanboy commenting how delusional another fanboy is.

Neither that blog nor those fanboys matter all that much to the companies. That's why they don't take business advice from neither.

We have seen how hard it's to keep secrets, so Sony probably want to keep their PS3 slim/price cut planes under close wraps...

[Expy]

Jordan Lund? Doesn't ring a bell..

[Droid Control]

and quick. So many mistakes this generation. Its like a completely different company from the one that made the PS1&2...

[Mr Face Creamer]

Who said that?