Best of E3 2009 Awards: Best Graphics

Which video game was best in show at E3 2009?

[PLASTICA-MAN]

and every site agrees on that: http://games.ign.com/articl...
Well, I can hear some people crying and others laughing!

[fishd]

TLG also looks amazing!

http://i41.tinypic.com/2q0s...

[menoyou]

To all the Xbox users on N4G who keep tying really hard to pretend that Splinter Cell, Mass Effect 2, Forza 3, and Alan Wake rival (or beat) graphics on the PS3, please take a hint: NONE of these were even nominated. So just stop. Even two multiplatform games were nominated above those 360 exclusives.

[el zorro]

Alan Wake and Mass Effect 2 were both nominated as runners up in the best graphics technology category at IGN's best of E3 2009 awards.

All of these games are very close and not everybody is going to agree about which games look the best.

I think it is silly the way you say "rival graphics on the PS3" as if the PS3 has so many good looking games. It doesn't. It has a couple really nice looking games and everything else is pretty much the standard stuff you will see on either of the HD consoles.

You also fail to mention how the majority of cross platform games look better on the 360. That is a measurement of a console's graphical performance and could be used to say the same thing: "games on the PS3 don't rival the graphics of games on the 360".

[mastiffchild]

Zorro-multi plats and their performance woll tell you nothing this gen as none are optimised ofr eiother system and aimed at being identical-how do you get any solid information about gfx prowess from that? With 360 being more what they're used to may be why you get a few very minor gliches on PS versions but, to be fair, you need a microscope to spot them either way and the devs do a greatr hjob of keeping them very even and, I guess, sometimes it depends which was lead platform too-but the waters are way too muddied for direct comparisons of any value.

However, I also feel that we never get to see the 360 in it's best light. Even Gears and Halo games aren't usually allowed the gestation peiod that Sony allowed the likes of GG with KZ2. Who knows, if MS weren't after bigger, market share they might allow a dev to really push the 360 in terms of graphics but, imo, up to now no game has even had the chance.

At the moment then neither te string PS3 exclusives nor the less even multi plats tell any kind of story really-well that's how I see it anyhow-honestly nothng can be proved under the current circumstances. It's telling that most exclusibves on either console outdo the jultis though which, at least gives a real reason for them to exist.

[CWMR]

Comparing exclusives won't tell you anything either. There is no standard and consistent way to measure them. Way too many variables involved. All you can say is "that console can run that game", but that doesn't tell you whether the other console could run it or not. And you will never know because those games will never show up on the other console.

Remember when Gears of War 2 came out this past holiday, you had several reviewers going out of the way to say that it was the best looking game on consoles, even though Uncharted and other exclusive PS3 games were already out. Now, is there any way to conclusively prove that Gears of War 2 was the best-looking game out at the time? No. It is basically the opinion of those reviewers and comes down to how they perceive graphics. And we all perceive graphics somewhat differently. Some people pay a lot of attention to textures, others to lighting, others to art design, etc.

Multi-plats at least give you a baseline from which to measure and compare things.

[Perkel]

Almost all people forget that in Uncharted there will be no LOADING Screens at all as in uncharted:drakes fortune.

This is big plus over every game. Amazing graphic and no loading this is True graphical showcase.

[RememberThe357]

You want to know what a system can do, you look at exclusives. It's like mastiffchild said multi-platform game are made to look identical on every platform. So, the only thing we can go by are the game that are supposed to be optimized for the system, and those are the exclusives.

[snipermk0]

Alan Wake wasn't even on the list..

[Greywulf]

Stories about an amazing multiplatform game, with second to none physics engines, a pc demo, a detail less main character with no expression on his face...

stories about how ALan wake was going to show the world that the 360 hasn't run out of graphical might..

stories about how alan wake was going to put all games to shame...

stories that lasted 5 years until 2009.

Now the only stories we hear, are stories about how its a sandbox game, and of course it isn't supposed to compete with uncharted2/mgs4/Killzone2... where were those stories before e3?

Now that it turned out that alan wake looked a bit better than alone in the dark with a flashlight and a flare, what will the stories say?

I know there will be no response, just silent anger.

[SaiyanFury]

While it doesn't completely surprise me that Uncharted 2 got that recognition, it's nice to see it reflected in the media as well. It's not just about good graphics, but overall presentation and Naughty Dog has a long history of bringing the goods. I loved the original Uncharted and am looking forward to the sequel, but as an Assassin's Creed lover, I'm personally looking forward to Assassin's Creed 2 more. Don't get me wrong, I've played through Uncharted at least 7 times, and I love it every time, but I'm a stealth lover. Assassin's Creed was more open to your approach and that great gameplay showed in AC2 really blew me away. Flying on Davinci's apparatus while raising your flying height from heat from torches and whatnot was awesome. I'm sorry that was seriously cool. Uncharted 2 will no doubt deliver the closest movie/game action that you'll find on any platform, but my personal love will be for AC2.

[theEnemy]

Don't get me wrong, I loved double agent. Ended it twice on my PC. But it's graphics on the 360 and PS3 was abit far from it's graphics on the PC version.

[360 man]

are u insane

alan wake is a sand box game and it blew everything on ps3 away

if uve got an lcd monitor or a laptop then watch it with those. you will see the true graphical brilliance

http://www.gametrailers.com...

[theEnemy]

wrong reply :/

[wUTTer]

Please see my comment at 2.20, thank you kindly.

[JohnnyBadfinger]

Im a 360 owner and loyalist, but i will with out any hesitation say straight out that Uncharted 2 is the best looking console game i have ever seen, gameplay i think its weak but thats not the point.

Graphically the game is excellent, and nothing short of amazing.

PS3s BEST game, CONFIRMED!

[ultimolu]

Cannot wait for Uncharted 2. :D

[talltony]

Lol I am sure alot of the wonderful people on this site were going to comment until they saw that Uncharted 2 won best graphics! Seriously though how could you not agree with this?

[xwabbit]

Y would alan awake and forza be there ?

PS3 had those graphics with GT5P and Uncharted 1 long time ago :/

[terrandragon]

Okay Sony fanboys, what happened to "Oh, Heavy Rain has photo-realistic graphics!!! Best graphics ever!!" Heavy Rain wasn't nominated either.

[bspat13]

i've pooped prettier things than that

[JL]

First off, UC2 looks AMAZING!!!! Splinter Cell does look pretty damn good, but not THAT impressive that some of you people can honestly sit there and say it puts UC2 to shame. Not happening. Graphics aside though Splinter Cell does look really fun (i've loved playing Splinter Cell games in the past, i'm halfway betting i'll get to play Conviction on my ps3 at some point too). I'm sorry, in my opinion though, nobody is topping Sony and their first party when it comes to graphics etc. Just not happening with how much of a beast the ps3 is, and the skill of the first parties, and the patience and leeway sony provides these developers.

also one other thing, i'm not getting this whole Alan Wake thing. In my opinion, Conviction blows that one away. I'm not buying the hype for that one at all. Sure the cutscene and cgi stuff looks real good, but once that video cuts to actual gameplay, it loses alot of that luster. The lighting looks good, but other than that, doesn't do anything for me. I honestly think infamous looks better in everything but the lighting of it.

[onanie]

Congratulations to Uncharted 2 and the Naughty Dog team.

[thesummerofgeorge]

LOL! That's the best you could come up with? So your argument is that because Heavy Rain also had amazing graphics and didn't win that's a draw back? Heavy Rain does look awesome, but Gametrailers thought Uncharted looked better, and so they picked the best from every console and put em up against each other. When your insult is "That awesome looking ps3 game didn't win, it was a different awesome looking PS3 game that won" you need to go back to the drawing board.

[MUNKYPOO]

everyone knew the outcome was uncharted 2. when i was watching this during e3 i thought i was dreaming

[360 man]

i have to disagree

not only is splinter cell conviction better lookin than uncharted 2. but it makes the game look like a cartoon

Splinter cell
http://www.gametrailers.com...

Uncharted 2
http://www.gametrailers.com...

1 looks realistic and 1 looks like 1 cartoon.

too see splinter cell in all its glory, u really need an lcd monitor or view it on a laptop monitor

[el zorro]

Splinter Cell has always been at the pinnacle of graphics and Conviction is no different. I too though Conviction looked better than Uncharted. Uncharted 2 looks good, but doesn't it almost look a little cell-shaded or something? It certainly isn't going for a realistic look. Very pretty though.

[Rockstar]

I'm very surprised that you disagree.

/sarc

Also, best graphics doesn't equal most realistic graphics.

[Tomonobu Itagaki]

Yeah, it's hard to accustom to colors when we keep playing Gears of War. or Killzone.

[TheBand1t]

You're confusing cartoonish and cel-shaded with having actual color.

Uncharted 2, quite simply, blew Conviction away.

[el zorro]

That's your opinion. I thought Conviction looked better. They both look fantastic, it's just that one looks better in some ways and the other looks better in other ways. If you break it down into technically measurable criteria like textures, lighting, effects, etc...you can see that the two games are very close and it is going to come down to which one you think 'looks better'.

I've always been a huge Splinter Cell fan and I like their approach to graphical design, and I also thought Conviction looked more life-like, whereas Uncharted 2 looks sort of fantastical with very saturated and unnatural colors. They are both two of the best upcoming games and are both beautiful so don't get offended at my difference of opinion.

[Jaces]

Sorry 360 man, CGI don't count.

[theEnemy]

..has always been at the pinnacle of graphics ?

Splinter Cell ?

Srsly ?

Have you played/seen the last Splinter Cell named Double Agent ?

[TheBand1t]

And it's my opinion that Uncharted blew away Conviction. Again, confusing unrealism with color.

[Darkeyes]

You guys should be even grateful if SC looks as good as UC1. If you think SC and AW look better than games like GOW3, UC2, Heavy Rain, then sadly your fanboyism is blinding you. Every site out there and every individual (except for 360 fanboys and blind/colorblind people) have passed their verdict that UC2 trumps all games graphically. Even GOW3 shown at 720P blew any 360 exclusive.. Just wait till it gets released in native 1080P after 9 months of polish in march... Boy you guys will feel like idiots.

The graphical war is wrapped up this gen by PS3 like it or not. And this is just 3 years into PS3s lifetime... KZ2 started it... And the void has been widening with every PS3 exclusive.

Best looking Adventure/Action game: UC2
Best looking Action game: GOD OF WAR 3
Best looking Racing game: GT5
Best looking FPS: KZ2
Best looking TPS (well kind of like a TPS): MGS4
Best looking new IP: Heavy Rain.... EDIT: How could I forget TLG...

That list sums up the graphical war this gen.

[el zorro]

@Jaces
None of that was CGI, man. The developers confirmed that it was all real-time graphics. The fact that you confused it for CGI shows just how impressive Conviction is graphically.

@theEnemy

Yes, at the time of their release each of the Splinter Cell games were always among the most graphically advanced games available. Funny that you bring up Double Agent because I recently started playing that again and I am marveling at just how impressive its graphics are for a game that old.

@theBand1t

I am not trying to cut down Uncharted 2. I think it looks absolutely breath taking and I plan on buying it. But if a game has unnaturally saturated colors like Uncharted 2 I think it is fair to say that that aspect is not as realistic. That is all I was referring to.

@Jaces below
Hey, I am not mad Uncharted 2 won, it was a very worthy contender and was deserving of the win. I am just saying that at the end of the day all of these games are pretty close and I think there is always going to be some difference of opinion as to which one looks the best.

Kind of like the way PS3 owners argue about whether MGS4, Uncharted, Killzone 2 or God of War 3 look the best. Obviously a large dose of subjectivity is involved.

There is no way to do any kind of realistic technical analysis or comparison between exclusives because the games are all to different and if you measure one thing it is too easy to leave out some great thing the other game is doing. One might have better textures, but the environments are a fraction of the size of the other. One might have great physics but the AI isn't as good as in the other game. These kinds of things make it nearly impossible to definitively say which games are more technically advanced.

[hitokiri]

And just what makes you think that the Splinter Cell footage was from Xbox360? This is Microsoft were talking about here, they could have just used a high end PC to show off those graphics (same with Alan Wake). Last I remember an 360 controller could be hooked up to a PC, making it look like you were playing it on the console. Even then, it looks good, but not that good.

[Jaces]

Not really, I was just trying to get under his skin.

Anyway graphics are what they are, whether they're "cartoony" or "realistic" looking. Get over it, Uncharted won. So you may not agree and that's fine, but there's no need to go degrading other games because you see things differently.

[SuperM]

Couldnt you atleast try to be a little less obvious? Every respectable gaming site has declared Uncharted 2 as best in graphics. SC wasnt even nominated here. Sometimes you just need to realise that you are wearing fanboy goggles and understand that you are simply wrong.

[WEL]

Conviction has really narrow stages and few animations and effects while Uncharted has beautiful particle effects(snow, smoke, fire, etc), lot of action happening on screen at once, lots of animations and cut-scene transitions without loadings. Exotic locations, beautiful water effects, impressive character models, really long draw-distance, real time shadowing.

Uncharted world feels really alive, even when you just look at his face on real-time Drake looks like he is alive because of all the gestures he does with his face(talking about the first here). When you're in a gun fight you can see on Drake's face while taking cover that he is scared and he even trembles! When you get wet, you're wet. If you just get your feet wet, you see only your feet wet and you dry by the passing of the time, just like in real life. That really is attention to detail!

Graphics are more than just some fancy lighting effects and lots of of high res textures... To me Conviction almost looks like the pre-rendered backgrounds you could find on most square rpgs on the PSX. Conviction looks generic as any other shooter of this gen, you could even see some screens and think that it is another game but that doesn't happens when you look at Uncharted. Uncharted has its own style.

Uncharted 2: Among Thieves E3 09: Developer Walkthrough HD:
http://www.gametrailers.com...

BTW I only have a PS3 and I'm really envious of X360 owners having Splinter Cell. Putting graphics aside, Splinter Cell looks like it has some frenetic action scenes with some really interesting gameplay approaches. Gameplay is what always matter the most at the end so, X360 owners don't have to feel threatened by Uncharted 2 visuals. You have an amazing game there. I haven't even played Conviction and I can already say that it is going to be one amazing game!

[Information Minister]

Did you just brain-fart?

[silvacrest]

conviction looks like a PS2 game
uncharted 2 is above everything else at the moment

dont let your fanboyism make your decision

decide with your eyes

[360 man]

are u guys watching with ur eyes

look at the textures and the shading on splinter cell, it makes it look near pre rendered cgi

and alan wake by the way looks better than any thing on the ps3

http://www.gametrailers.com...

watch and then decide with ur brains not with ur hearts

EDIT:

and alan wake is an open world game.

name me what open world game looks even remotely as good as alan wake, apart from crysis

[LarVanian]

Both Conviction and Among Thieves are absolutely terrific looking......terrific? Screw that! They're unreal looking games.
Conviction has great detail to the environments. But imo I would actually say that Uncharted 2 takes the cake in terms of graphics. Just look at the view of the city in the demo. It pretty much blew the entire E3 audience away. (Best draw distance too)
That said both Conviction and Uncharted 2 are going to be great games. And if you own both PS3 and 360.....well lucky you.

[wUTTer]

please take a look at alan wakes textures and tell me honestly that it's mind blowing to you.

pause it at 1:10.. those rock textures look like crap, not to mention the character models.

http://www.gametrailers.com...

[callahan09]

What are you talking about 360 Man? I'd nominate Forza 3 for best graphics sooner than I'd nominate Alan Wake. Alan Wake looks nice, but Forza 3 looks way better. The character models are unimpressive in Alan Wake, but the lighting is cool. The environments in Forza 3, though, are the most stunning thing I've seen on the 360 yet.

[VenomCarnage89]

stick with me while i try to figure out your fanboy logic for a moment.

360 won E3 hands down because the majority of the gaming sites say so despite Sony's showing of many more great games.
And now pretty much every single site declares Uncharted 2 biggest graphics powerhouse of E3 this year but no, they must all be wrong because its not on 360 right? Its a double edged sword, playing that majority rules arguement over which console won E3 is now the card that plays against you.

Plus, this LCD screen your viewing Alan Wake on, you should use it to view Uncharted 2 on as well because if you really think alan wake looks better than your watching it on some black and white screen from the 60's.

[talltony]

Do you really think that anyone on here expects to you say Uncharted 2 looks the best? your name is 360 man and all you say is things putting down the ps3 and its games while promoting the hell out of xbox 360. You are the worst kind of bot, Not only are you living in denial but you try and preach crap that i am sure you really dont even believe. your like eric cartman telling yourself your right all the time. i think your 50+ disagrees have spoken!

[JHUX]

Jeeez... It's cool to like a game and think it looks awesome etc, but the 360 fanboyism coming off here is EXTREME rofl.. it's sad.. :(

[Sarcasm]

Based off the video from E3, Splinter Cell Conviction looks FANTASTIC. It's best 360 game of E3 IMO. It's 360 purchase worthy. If I didn't have a 360, I'd buy one for that game alone. That's how good it looks to me.

But those who keep trying to downplay Uncharted 2's graphics are just numbskulls. The animations, the physics, the art style, the draw distance, the textures, EVERYTHING. Uncharted 2 has topped Killzone 2.

But honestly, if we want "CGI Realistic" graphics, then look no further than The Last Guardian.

[Superduper09]

There's no doubt that Uncharted 2 looks amazing!. My jaw literally dropped when I saw that E3 gameplay demo LOL.

[TheColbertinator]

Yes I agree with that.When I saw the huge city around Nathan,I felt intimidated

[Montreafart]

The best they 360 had, were multi platform titles.

"but, but, bu alan wake lookd realliez goot"

"but, bu mass effect 2"

I predict more denial.

Hahaha stinkin bots, the reality is that only a handful of hardcore xbots are still pretending that the 360 is good enough this gen. Hardly anyone was impressed by alan wake. But keep dreaming. alan wake is the best the 360 can do. And its underwhelming to say the least.

[el zorro]

Alan Wake actually is a lot more impressive than Uncharted 2, because it looks nearly as good but it is a much, much larger game. 30 square kilometers that can all be explored and it looks that good. Amazing. Deny it all you want, but it's true.

Besides, I don't know why you PS3 fanboys are always harping on about graphics since the vast majority of games that are released (cross platform games) look better on the 360.

The two consoles are basically equal in performance and it is really going to come down to what developers do with the hardware. So far, most developers do better with the 360 hardware.

[TheColbertinator]

Chill out guys.Stay grateful for even having great graphics in your games.I grew up playing games when only 8 shapes were on the screen

[WEL]

I'm still trying to make sense of this LOL:

"Besides, I don't know why you PS3 fanboys are always harping on about graphics since the vast majority of games that are released (cross platform games) look better on the 360."

Isn't that the point of all the arguing coming from the PS3 fanboys? Multiplat games does not use the PS3 strength because when they made multiplats devs just go with the easier platfrom(X360) to then port. That's like making a PS2 game to then port to the Xbox.

If you see, when some program is not fully optimized for your operating system it always tend to use more resource to run it and if not it crashes. Well, something similar happens with the PS3 ports. Seeing that the PS3 needs special programming for the Spe's and it has less ram, well, we have a problem here.

[lloyd_wonder]

And to think that some idiot said Mass Effect 2 looked better than Uncharted 2. lawl

Also, notice how no 360 games were mentioned. haha. xfanboys in denial mode.. BEGIN

[el zorro]

Notice that they didn't pick God of War 3 either, which many PS3 fanboys are claiming looks better than Uncharted 2.

If you guys can't even get your story straight why should anybody else believe you.

Uncharted 2 looks great, with nice textures and lighting and a great art direction. But it's still just an opinion about which you think look better.

Mass Effect 2 and Alan Wake were runners up on IGNs best of E3 awards for best graphics.

It's all a matter of opinion. All of these games are too close for anybody to definitively say which one technically has the best graphics.

[TheBand1t]

Some PS3 fans thought Uncharted looked better while others thought GoW 3 looked better. No generalisations plzkthx.

[Darkeyes]

lol... El Zorro stop trying so hard to prove the world wrong and just correct yourself. I just seem to notice the desperation increasing with each of your post. Now you do not have a mature way of countering, like all 8 year 360 fanboys, you try to bash a PS3 game and say RUNNER UP RUNNER UP... I hope you know what that means don't you.... Runner up=Second place my friend.

Oh ya.. And GOW3 was shown at a native 720P resolution in the demo. The devs themselves have said that the game will be in native FULL HD. And there are still 9 months of tweaking to do and polish to be applied. And comparing GOW3 to UC2 is the stupidest comparison. GOW3 is an over the top 3rd person game. When the camera zooms in, the detailing is as impressive as UC2, but fighting 40 people on screen in such a zoomed camera is not possible. That is why the camera zooms out and detailing of minute things is lost in the process. Just wait till it's 1080P native res videos are shown and then comment. I am pretty sure it will at least blow any 360 exclusive out of the water if not PS3 exclusives.

In short, stop being a cry baby. SC looks awesome, but for the ULTIMATE LOOKING GAMES, you will have to buy a PS3...

EDIT: Oh ya Zorro.. And notice that NO 360 exclusive game gets mentioned here (And don't tell me the source is not credible...Back when multi-plats looked superior on 360, and GT posted a video, all 360 fanboys would agree.. So if you disagree now, then you're a hypocrite.) Ya you can brag about BEING THE RUNNER UPS at IGN, but nearly every other site has rated UC2 as best closely followed by GOW3. Just wait for the native overhaul to 1080P and then comment. Boy I would love to see your face then.

@below: Ya the truth stings my friend. If I am stupid, then all the sites that agree UC2 looks the best game (including sites like IGN, Gametrailers...) are also dumbasses who are PS3 fans right? Am I stupid cause I judge a game on how it looks with my eyes unlike you who uses his fanboy to judge stuff? Grow up man.

[Arnon]

Stop talking. You're stupid. Rofl.

[SuperM]

Ehrm, no they are not that close technically. Uncharted 2 is far and beyond what Mass Effect 2 has to offer. Also, because some PS3 fans say they think GOW3 looks better then U2, does that mean we all agree? Anyone who claim anything else then Uncharted 2 having best graphics on the show has either not looked close enough on how f'in detailed Uncharted 2 really is, or they are living just living in denial. That being said, GOW3 also look far and beyond games like ME2 and it did at the very least get a nomination unlike any 360 exclusive.

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

Surprised they didnt pick GOW 3. To me it was a close tie between those two.

[hitokiri]

Well you're right, it was close between the two. But the differences here are noticeable: while the Kratos model looks stunningly close to CG, the backgrounds lack the textures and polish of UC2, which has CG like character models and backgrounds.

But hey who knows, God of War is still a long way from being released, so it might even surpass UC2 when it does.

[chavafx]

xbox1 whas 3 times more powerful then ps2 those that mean ps2 games sucked ??
grafix are not the fun of a game and thats why ill take
halo3 over killzone 2 any time just like 10million other people
and gears vs uncharted true fun >>>grafix have you forgot ps2 era??

[Montreafart]

the 360 is a cheap box of plastic that is badly designed and aimed to leech the hell out of its fanbase with everything they do.

Dont even compare the 360 with the PS2. The PS2 WON because it had the best games available.

The 360 doesnt have any games. And will not have any games until its supposed "death" in 2015. Im not talking about totally gameless. Im talking about the "Gamecube experience": where you have 1 must own game every year or so with a few multi platform titles in between that everyone else can get on the PS3 or PC.

There is absolutely no reason at all to get a 360. And if you buy a 360 now, youre screwing yourself over massively because the only thing you get to play, are multi platform titles while missing out on whats by now OBVIOUSLY the best line up ever: THE PS3 ExCLUsiVEs.

Wait60 years until TGshow.
PS3 has all the games and the best on all consoles. And they will continue to have all the games with games coming out cleverly spaced in between until they discontinue the PS3 in 2018.

Thats just a fact. You just dont get it. You are mASSIVELy screwed as long as you keep wearing that xbot 360 goggles. Take off that shiat and maybe youll finally start to see how you can still get out of that abused position you find yourself in.

The only system where you get to play all the PS3 triple A exclusives, is the PS3.

And every month you wait, more PS3 MUST OWN system sellers are released. If you aint getting a PS3, youre not just going to miss out on everything thats released so far, but the hundreds they are going to release in the coming years.

Fool. Suck on that shiatbox. And when it flashes three lights at you, dont say we didnt fking warn you.

[el zorro]

There is absolutely no reason to get a PS3 either then. Especially if a person doesn't want to be associated with ignoramuses like you. Ps3 fanboys are giving the PS3 a bad reputation.

I have both consoles and guess which one I have more fun with...that's right the 360. It's perfectly fine with me if you like the PS3 better, but I am sick of morons like you on this site always attacking the 360 and spewing out complete bullsh*t about it that everybody knows isn't true.

@chavafx
The PS3 isn't more powerful in graphics. The PS3 fanboys have worked long and hard to try and convince the world that is true, but it's a load of BS.

The consoles are actually fairly similar in power. The PS3 has a bit more CPU performance and the 360 has a bit more GPU performance. If you want to know the truth, it is much easier for most developers to leverage the extra power of the GPU than write complex code to try and do the same thing on the SPUs of the cell. The better memory architecture and GPU in the 360 is more useful for most developers than a little extra number crunching that can be done on the cell. So don't buy into Sony's marketing hype. People that actually know what they are talking about know that the two consoles are more or less equal in performance.

I do know what you mean about the graphics ultimately being not as important and I agree completely. Games are about fun first and foremost, graphics are secondary.

[Nelson M]

Sure has a Sore Ass !!

[Shane Kim]

El Butto, show me a game that matches MGS4, KZ2 and soon to be Uncharted 2, GoW 3, Heavy Rain and GT5. There is a f*cking reason that PS3 games comes out first every year in graphics when all major sites are giving out their awards. LAst year was MGS4 and this year will stand between KZ2 and Uncharted 2. Until you can show me a game that looks better than any of those I mentioned I suggest you shut your filthy gob.

And don't give me Gears 2 couse it looks like this:
http://farm4.static.flickr....

[mesh1]

HAHA this is a joke right ?alan wake and many other including mass effect 2 are way my techically supirior than this disny cartoon looking game.well i guess as the games been whored to the public showning a lot of the game ppl like gametrailers maybe swayed but tis game clearly is not amazing looking.

[mll09]

yeah, clearly disney -_-

u sad deprived child

[labwarrior]

Alan Wake and Assassins Creed 2 look 100x bigger and better and more dynamic than Uncharted 2

[TheBand1t]

Then laugh.

[dalibor]

It all depends on the player really, some people beat games faster than others. Add to the fact of online functionality which provides more hours of gaming. In the end it's just preference, look at GTA4, if you just beat the main missions it's not as long as if you played the side missions as well. For Uncharted 2 if you try & get treasures it will take longer to beat, thats how it was for me for Uncharted at least. Another game to use as an example is GeOW, I played co-op with my cousin & we beat it faster than playing single player, like I stated everybody has a different experience.

[ThanatosDMC]

I cant wait for Assassins 2... i just hope we get to kill civilians without penalty of health. I hope instead they jack up the police force for civilian fatalities.

[WEL]

So labwarrior returned! This guy is a legend. He's famous because of his legendary trolling on any gaming site you can name of. He have been banned from most of them too and that's why he is here now. As long as you don't say the forbidden words: "droid" or "xbot" on the gamer zone you don't get banned from N4G.

But maybe it could be someone simply personifying him?
Because is kinda stupid to build a reputation of the biggest troll ever all over the internet...

[LiViNgLeGaCY]

If I've ever seen it. AC2 looks really good, but I wouldn't say it's of the same visual quality of U2.

I also think Alan Wake looks impressive, but it's too dark to really see the true graphical quality of the game. I hope there will be a day/night cycle in the game. So as for that game, I also think it's not up to par with U2. But who knows? When both are finally released, either game might surprise you.

I have the PSWii60 combo, so you better believe I'll be getting all these games! 2009 looks to be one of the best years for gaming yet!

[chavafx]

have you fans of sony forgot?? grafix means nothing the the real players and thats why ill take halo 3 over killzone 2 any time tru fun >>grafix gear vs suncharted

[DasBunker]

The stupidity in this comparison relies on the fact that last gen xbox had nothing other than halo going on for it, this gen its sony who has the more horse power and with sony come along their 20+ Dev. houses that can actually show the power of the machine and btw thanks for sharing your opinion about "tru fun"

[CWMR]

Actually, the Xbox was my favorite console last gen. Most of my favorite games and franchises were found on it like KOTOR, Jade Empire, Chronicles of Riddick, Doom 3, Otogi 1 & 2, the good versions of Splinter Cell, Halo 1, Halo 2, etc...as well as the better versions of multi-platform games. It just suited my tastes better.

[freitax]

@3.2

dude if you missed out on games like Shadow of the colossus, ico, MGS3, god of war 2, devil may cry,etc. you can't really call yourself a gamer..I'm not trying to be an asshole or something but man those games beat anything on the xbox and on this current gen really. Correct that mistake now! Buy yourself a ps2!they are cheap as hell!I guarantee you will not regret it one bit.

[silverchode]

booo god of war should of won :)

[theEnemy]

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[silverchode]

sony owners win :)

[dalibor]

We all win. A lot of great looking games that are headed our way. Uncharted 2 looks superb. Hard to top even the first one imo. I figured that in the Sony department it would be either Uncharted 2, GOW3 or Gran Turismo 5. For Microsoft I thought Splinter Cell was the best. Alan Wake looked great but to dark, I couldn't even see the monsters clearly, wish they showed footage during daytime or something. Your thoughts? Opinions?

Math is like sex, you + the bed, - the clothes, divide the legs & hope you don't multiply.

[kws1065]

Unanimous!

[mastiffchild]

Hardly, not when some people feel that SCC is better looking, they're wrong imo, but thats what they say at least. Neither the animations, lighting, particle effects, explosions, character detailing nor backgrounds are as good as U2, imo, but you cannot speak for everyone even when it does seem apparent to you.

GOW3 prolly isn't listed as it's still well away from release and knowing how most exclusives on PS3 grow in polish over the last few months of development that's a decent decision too.

[CWMR]

I think we can all agree that it is among the very best. At least, most of us would agree with that.

Remember, though, how Sony fans were insistent on sticking to their opinion that Sony had the better showing even though there was a general consensus that Microsoft had the better E3 showing. This is no different.

How many sites have gave Uncharted 2 best graphics so far?

[snipermk0]

Sony DID have the better showing. Its been rated as the best press conference by Gametrailers. AGAIN.. M$ showed multiplats while sony showed true exclusives..

[resistance100]

TBH i would have voted for Gran Turismo PSP. That thing has crazy visuals given the console its on.

[hitokiri]

Handheld, not console. But you're right though, it does look good.

[Monk3y]

You Can't be serious if u think that Splinter Cell looks better, no FUKING way. yea SC looks good but not that good -.-

[CWMR]

Yes, I do. Check out the videos 360 man linked to in his post above and try to tell me that you can't understand why some people would think that looks better. I agree with 360 man that it looks more realistic. The interrogation scene in particular looks better than anything I have seen in Uncharted 2. Although I do love the art direction of Uncharted.

[shadow2797]

In the bathroom, SC: Conviction looks freaking amazing. It really does. But once that sequence is over, the game just doesn't look as good. The texture detail in the mansion just isn't up to par with Uncharted 2.

Obviously you disagree and that's okay, I would agree with you if the entire game looked like that bathroom. But it doesn't, it looks remarkably inconsistent to me. Uncharted 2 has texture detail everywhere, it constantly blows me away.

That said, I'm really looking forward to both games. They both look like all kinds of fun.

[gta2800]

2 PS3 exclusives
2 multi plats
and 1 Wii game.

PS3 wins as usual and 360 gets outdone by the Wii. No 360 games were nominated but a Wii game was, ouch lol.

[Arnon]

And that doesn't make you think for the slightest bit that this poll was absolutely dumb?

These are the two nicest games I've seen:

http://ps3.ign.com/dor/obje...

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/...

[gta2800]

Looks pretty good for a PC game. I'll wait till I see the 360 version in action.

[Arnon]

Too bad that is the 360 version. :/

PC version will look nicer though.

All footage shown at E3 was running on the Xbox 360.

[rob6021]

Yea let's just use screenshots the developers give us themselves and compare... it more like a competition on who can push the limit on how far they go doctoring up the image. We all know in this day and age that's not a fair graphics comparison.

[gta2800]

With some of the lies they trued to pull off at e3, milo, etc, I wouldn't doubt if the game was pre-played on the PC and they just had a dev holding a 360 controller pretending like he was playing the 360 version.

[azedean]

The graphics is really good, the Z buffer is amazing detailed as far as i never saw it before (look at the background on the video), the physX is amazing, try to do some physX like this on 360 and you will certainly have an RROD :p

[Arnon]

Did the mods just leave the site? I guess they would. It's just completely bassackwards.

[hitokiri]

At the end of the day, the best graphics come down to what you really prefer, whether it's cartoony, realistic, or 2D, It all depends on the players preference. For me I agree with the video because I think UC2 was the most stunning and technically impressive (although I'm digging that Muramasa art style a lot!!!!).

[Cassarole]

we all know that wii has the best looking exclusives lololol

[Freak of Nature]

While at E3 I got to see alot of "Beyond good and evil 2" target renders,if the game actually matchs what I saw I would give it to BG&E2....

Uncharted 2 would be my pick for games actualy shown running.The BG&E2 animation was early,and I still need verification on it actually looking like that as a finished product,I sure hope so....

The *last guardian* (My most anticipated game) is atmospheric and almost surreal,ethereal,so very stylish and ambiant.But I need to see more to get it by UC2...Perhaps when shown in a more finished state it will be number 1....

Another game I saw behind the scenes that was very impressive was "brink,coming next Spring 10"..really ahead of most already,and only in it's mid dev cycle,pretty stylish,and a nice touch of creativity,alot of "caricature" in their characters...It's for PC/PS360/////////For a teaser trailer,and a few screens go to the link....

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/sp...

[ilkercruiser]

I used to be a 360 fanboy.
But i'am talking rights ,
I have a 360 since Launch (Never failed , still working)
* Uncharted 2 Looked incredibly good to me , Although I'd watched the Microsoft Conference first.
- Best Physics ever in a PS3 game. I think "the collapsing building scene" is a respond to "Gears of War 2's one floor collapse" :)))
But I must say, Alan Wake and Splinter Cell Conviction is looked at least equal to Uncharted 2. But None of them is as interactive as U2.

Uncharted 2's one handicap is its "script actions" (Ready Action Scenes) like Ninja Blade had.

Some Sony fanboys say that: None of this season's games feel like a movie like Uncharted 2 does. I dont Agree with that. Splinter Cell Conviction is very interactive and feels like a movie, and closest game to Uncharted 2.

[starvinbull]

Just watched the Alan Wake presentation and wow. When did a mystery/horror game become an action game? Seriously disappointed.
Was one of the games I may have picked up a cheap 360 for in the future. As it stands there is a list of 4 games i want a 360 for (fable 2, Viva Pinata, Left for Dead, Dead Rising). None of them are due for release BTW.

[Ravage27]

watching UC2 clips never gets old.. Although i know that the extra months of development time will add even more polish,i'll be lying if i said i don't wish for it to be released now :p

[MaximusPrime]

didnt watch the video, i know who i think should be a winner.

but after reading the above comments, i watched the video and am glad Uncharted 2 got it.

Uncharted 2 demonstration blown me away at E3.

[antoinetm]

Splinter Cell games are based around darkness, so its easier to focus ur energy on the few visible objects that need proper rendering.

Uncharted display magnificent gfx in broad daylight, as far as the eye can see.

that's not even a challenge.

Also we saw what the ubi engine could do with Asscreed2 and while its an awesome game it doesnt look any better than UC2

[Counter Strike]

Is the only thing where Ps3 won...luullzzz...

And its only winning by few because all other games look as good as uncharted 2.

Final Fantasy XIII is Amazing , Assassins Creed 2 , Forza 3 , Mass Effect 2 :)

[shysun]

No they don't, please don't fool yourself.

[chidori666]

could only be even zorro ... Mexicans are all stupid and not even funny

[gambare]

erm.... El Zorro is a fiction Spanish (from Spain) character who fought for the rights of the Mexicans who resided in Los Angeles when it was annexed to the US. Not related with El Botto here :P

[Wvortices]

GOW3 will be a full throttle, tear at your throat, gasping for air, unable to eat or sleep, jaw dropping presentation, #1 game on my list of all time. My opinion. Lots of factors play into this.

Keep in mind U2 beat GOW3 because we are like 3 months away from release of U2 but 9 months for GOW3. Mark my words, get ready for this release, lock the doors, hold the mail, eat lots of pasta the night before to keep you going. This ride will be a definitive experience only possible on the PS3. I'm not excited or anything. 2009 has been an amazing gaming experience and will continue for me, KZ2, Infamous, U2, Assassins2

BTW, you know who you are, stop thinking CGI is the definitive graphical presentation. 360 is great at CGI but their exclusives can't hold a candle to PS3 IN GAME!

[beans]

This is just another persons opinion. I personally believed that the last guardian was the most impressive looking game followed by conviction. Anyways to each his own.

[shysun]

TLG wasn't playable, I think the games had to be in play form.

[beans]

Yeah that's probably what it was plus the fact that UC2 is pretty much complete if I'm not mistaken. The sheer polish alone is what helped it garner the award. In all honesty I'm happy to see these games improving in visuals on PS3 and 360. This gen still has so much to offer, but next gen will be the true next gen in my opinion.

[shysun]

That was a no brainer! Uncharted 2 will kick much ass!

[gerardo5566]

kiss my @ss!!!!! not all mexicans are stupid.... but the graphics are instanly noticeable that the ps3 blow away the 360 graphics....i have both. i mean check out the motorstorm series theyre just two beautiful looking games and damn fun, look at original uncharted still one of the best looking games around,mlb 09 the show best looking sports game period,infamous best looking sandbox game,killzone 2 best looking fps console game out there, theres no 360 games that look better than the games i mentioned heck they dont even come close!!!! and dont mention sales because at the end of the day were the ones alone playing these games so if you dont own a ps3 i feel sorry for you because your missing out on the best games of this generation!!!!! yes gears 2 comes close but still not as good as games mentioned or especially coming up!!! uncharted 2 will kick ass oh and were all forgetting mag and ratchet and clank a crack in time!!!!!

[Pandamobile]

Too bad Crysis 2 wasn't at E3 :(

[beardpapa]

Interesting videos & some nice links here in this discussion. I have to say after watching the vids, I'll have to pick up Mass Effect 2, Forza3, and Conviction. Conviction just looks cool and the gameplay seems neat. They really made it feel like a Jason Bourne thing. ME2 and F3 just because I liked the previous iteration a lot. I'll have to pick up Uncharted 2 as well since the first one blew my mind - absolutely best game ever last year for me. Will pick up Fat Princess & Pixeljunk Shooter since FP looks cool and I dig PixelJunk games (especially Monster & Eden). I don't think GoW3 and TLG are coming out this year.... but I guess my wallet's gonna run pretty empty at the end of 09. =T

Edit: Man I want to get a PSPgo and put all my stuff on it too. And that DS game on ign's vid looks neat. Shoot that's about 4 console games ($59.99 ea), 2 PSN games (~$10-20), a DS game ($20-30), and PSPgo ~$250 = about $ 500-600. YIKES! Oh well Xmas gifts for myself I guess. >=D

[Obama]

All the bots are crying and some are lying that Alan Wake has the best graphic. Seriously stop lying and stfu, I have enough of 360man and zorro trying so hard to convince people that Alan Wake has the best graphic, when it didn't win a single graphical award from major gaming sites.

I can't believe how blind the bots are, simply unbelievable.

[Obama]

I also can't believe some bots are still touting gears 2 as the graphical king. This is just insane. It makes me wonder if some of the bots here are actually blind?

[Model]

they convinced me that they are

[N2NOther]

Wow, that was a surprise.

(yes, that was indeed sarcasm)

[BlackToothGrin]

I cannot wait to play that game. I love the animations they created for battling/struggling with the stone warriors.

I just wish more of the PS3 audience would embrace the ICO guys. They deserve to be as hailed as Kojima and company. Not only do they keep bringing new ideas to the table of what a game can be they also help push graphics in a very creative way.

[Wvortices]

Don't worry. They will come around.

[umechumach]

I can't believe that a website that is biased towards the 360 gave the best graphics award to a PS3 game. I thought they would give it to mass effect or Alan Wake. Alas they gave it the Uncharted 2..... which I totally agree with!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Whitefox789]

That Game Trailers are biased towards the Xbox 360 but they are biased towards Uncharted itself if you listen in their review for Uncharted 1 at the 5:20 mark GT stated that "Drakes Fortune is easily the best looking console game on the market" so I think GT just really like Uncharted but that's just me here is the link for the review

http://www.gametrailers.com...

[n4gno]

mass effect or alan wake = only in game for few seconds.

even if the games were contenders, and gametrailers biased as edge, variety or kotaku, they couldn't do that.

[scott182]

I know the graphics are awesome, but look how intense the gameplay is!! I can't wait to get my hands on this.

[batman2million]

obviously. Cause you NEED to have good graphics to make a good game right??!

[ToastyMcNibbles]

wait wait! to quote someone from the open zone....bots am cry :( am cry some more :(

[Thoreau]

it seems that some people can not take the fanboy rose goggles off. (prepped for disagrees)................

the ease of typing on your computer at home and voicing your "opinion" is great but the visual "facts" show the PS3 have the best looking exclusives this gen. i am not saying that the PS3 is the best or most enjoyable system for everyone. psn-southpaw79, xbl-heavens boxer notice the boxing analogies)

[Mr Face Creamer]

Gameplay over graphics anytime. Unfortunately that rule doesn't apply to the likes of mindless $ony droids and slaves... They want the graphics of Carmen Electra and the gameplay of George Bush.

[Obama]

yes gameplay over graphics, and Uncharted 2, Trico, and Gow3 blow everything that the 360 has to offer in terms of gameplay.

[redsquad]

So you say "gameplay over graphics anytime"? Is that a tacit admission that PS3 visuals ARE better? Well done chum, I thank you for pointing that out.

But one more thing... While you're glad you have "gameplay over graphics" I, as a PS3 owner, actually get BOTH! Sorry you consider yourself limited to just one option.

[bujasem_89]

u just got OWNED bad XD and u can cry over these trailers while i play uncharted 2 beta yes graphics and gameplay both amazing it just kicked gears of war in the shin's but its amusing im actually comparing a master piece action to a piece of SH*T ripoff bot fanboys cause nothing changed and then u realize that that is all u can compare it too i just think that that's sad i feel bad for u guys

[ico92]

still using multiplats as an excuse most multiplat games are made for the 360 because the 360 is alot easier to programme for so alot of the shaders dont work that well on the ps3 and besides that argument is starting to die out because alot of multiplat games are starting to look as good or even better on the ps3 games like dead space, bioshock,cod 4 look as good as the 360 version and games like gta 4,resi 5,street fighter 4,GRID and more notably oblivion look BETTER on the ps3. seriously man try a new argument

[souljah]

but but but ... alan cake , FORZzZZzZZZZzZZZZzzzA. where my xbots at ? ROFL

[devilhunterx]

XDF ASSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMMMM MMMMMMMBBBBBBBBBBBLLLLLLEEEEEEE EE!!!!!!!!

and bring tissues for yourself.

[reckoner]

PS3 definitely has the upper hand in graphics. But some of the 360's exclusives look nice as well (Splinter Cell and Alan Wake).

[Whitefox789]

I'm still annoyed that people are such graphic whores and deciding for the fact if the game plays like $hit but its still pretty that's okay this gen. Let me tell you something people looks are not everything! If that was the case then games like Idk FF7, MGS, Legend of Zelda: OoT would equal that of the worst games ever made however the fact was no one cared that much for the graphics of those games during that time the only thing they cared about was that the games by themselves were fun, innovative, and overall original. I will digress it is amazing what people can do with technology to make the games look really good up til the point its almost real but I still and probably never will care for it that much to the point of the game not being fun.

[freitax]

well to be fair uncharted was one of the best single player experiences I had this gen, so I don't expect the gameplay and story to be any less than the graphics. Best single player experiences this gen:
(probably in order)
MGS4
Uncharted
Infamous
Fallout 3
Halo 3

I'm waiting for the last guardian to beat all the above :DDDDDDD

[Whitefox789]

Sorry if I sound blatant but I just think most people online are missing the point of games, its just entertainment it doesn't have to be an all out war to see which game has better graphics.

Best Single Player experience for me this gen. would have to be
(In order probably)
MGS 4
Uncharted
Valkyria Chronicles
Fallout 3

I have yet to play inFamous and I don't have a 360 so I can't really judge Halo 3 on story

There are so many games to play this gen its almost infuriating not to mention I'm still trying to finish off games from last gen

[Bishop]

I am still wanting to play Mass Effect 2 and Heavy Rain more. I expect Uncharted 2 to be more of the same and I will play but it really isn't that high on my list.

Too me this award doesn't matter for a couple of reasons. ! graphics don't make the game and 2 they are comparing a game that will come out this October to games that are slated for early next year. Call me crazy but I believe those extra 3-6 months could result in better, more polished graphics. In games like God of War III or Mass Effect 2, which won't be available this year. I can see Assassin's Creed 2 being compared with Uncharted 2 as they are only a month apart but whatever. The graphics of all these games are close enough that to me it doesn't matter.

[xg-ei8ht]

Ok i came into this with an open mind, HONEST!!!

I've listen to a few 360 fans and PS3 fans.

I watched the splinter cell trailer, graphically it's not bad. Slowdown was apparent. But alot of the textures looked bland, no normal mapping etc. I'd give it a 7.

Assasins creed 2. Nice looking game, needs some polishing, but looks like it's coming along nicely. ALready had a decent engine to start off with. 8

God of war 3, Character model, best i've seen in a game for quite a scopey game. If you watch decent hd footage, you'll see alot of nice textures and shaders as well. Collision could have been better in places, but i'm sure it'll be polished up. 9

Uncharted 2. Nice lighting again, Animations are better then first game, textures higher quality throughout. More going on. MP is excellent for a beta. Quality at this stage. 10.

[xg-ei8ht]

360 man

As chandler bing would say, you have to stop the cue tip when it meets resistance.

OMG!

If you think conviction looks like CGI, you really haven't played a PS3. GT5P - best looking racing game there is period.

Uncharted 2 - Is voted and truthfully is the best looking game to date. I'm playing the MP beta, it's smooth and looks amazing.

I thought conviction looks ok lighting wise, textures were poor and bland. Alan wake looked better, but the characters still looked plastic.

[bjornbear]

Guys, most footage seen on those video games are FANTASTIC! Best graphics on 360 i agree too...but come on =/ must you be soo blinded by fanboyism?

Amongst Theives does something none of those games do: Most of its ingame action takes place a) in many variable scenarios (i.e snow, sunny, dusk, night) but also, a lot of the main footage takes place in BRAWD DAYLIGHT = hardest lighting to pull off successfully.

Alan Wake and SP.C (although extreemly impressive i must say) most (if not all) footage takes place in dark scenarios =/

And dark scenarios are far easier to pull off well than brawd daylight scenarios = less draw distance, less detail, creates an illusion of "realistic" lighting effects more easily, etc.

So if you want to compare, grab either : alan wake footage on daytime (which i haven't seen ingame yet! someone point me to it if there is any!) or another AMAZING game with daylight graphics.

+ why compare? isn't it about gameplay anyway? U:AT will be amazing in all aspects i feel, but that doesn't make other games "inferior" imo

[dogmeat eater]

nothing can match up to it.

[dogmeat eater]

What a tool.

[Counter Strike]

iTs just a matter of time...

[dcd11]

but Halo Reach? lol no

[gerardo5566]

nope crysis 2 neither halo reach or gears 3 will touch uncharted 2 period!!!!! gears 2 was basically gears 1 with little extras!!!! as a matter of fact those 3 titles wont even touch the first uncharted in graphics!!!!! crysis is good on pcs but on consoles idk yet!!!

[-IronMan-]

Glad i own a PS3. So many great quality visuals, gameplay etc.. on it. Also the PS3 is reliable.

360 on the otherhand has no games. Also is unreliable RROD, scratches on discs, pay to play online, old dvd drive etc...

Glad i didnt buy that piece of poo xbox360.

PS3 the best!!!!!

[lowkey db josh]

its tooo seee uncharted get what it deserves it does look like the best console game (graphically) ever... what i find amusing though that a Wii title got nominated over Alan Wake,Forza 3 lol...

[doa766]

and crysis 2 will be MP so it won't match uncharted 2 either unless they stop basing MP games on the lowest common denominator ad let each console reach the limits of what it can do for each version of the game

the graphics champ is killzone 2, uncharted 2 will take the crown in a few months, after that maybe god of war 3 or gran turismo 5 will surpass it, no 360 game has a clear chance

the underground acts of gears 2 (acts 2 and 4) show no significance improvement over the underground act of gears 1 (act 3), the characters models and animations are IDENTICAL on both games, there's some increased background detail on gears 2 but that's it, the design is more gradiose but that doesn't mean more technically impresive

[ArcticWolfUK]

god of war should of won.
both look fu*kin quality tho

[badbond1]

Mooks, man of "never" year, why dis, bladestar and so on... these guys don't have f'in clue!!!!

[jixar]

this is simply outstanding. Details and graphics are great, well deserved title. Unless.. sciblenauts lol jokess :P

[free2game365]

It's pretty bad when graphics standards have fallen and no ones pushing visuals so much that console games win graphics awards.

[baodeus]

@menoyou

yeah, non of those got nominated but the demond blade got nominated? Common man, are u being serious?

[gamingparadise]

It's just graphics. GT should focus more on the gameplay.