Will Metal Gear Rising live up to expectations?

South Side Gamer writes: "Kojima announced Metal Gear Rising for the xbox 360 and playstation3 at E3. This is a great news especially for the gamers who don't own a ps3 to play the exclusive metal gear solid 4. This spin off will feature Raiden as the main character for this game, any other details about this game haven't been shared with the public at this moment. But one main thing Kojima made clear that he will not have any involvement in this game unlike his next game metal gear peace walker for the psp. A sequel to Metal gear portable ops and Metal gear solid 3. Here's the announcement that every xbox 360 owner has been waiting for but not quite the surprise they thought it was."

[GWAVE]

If the expectations are "It's a multiplatform spin-off not directed by Kojima that is optimized to use only the space provided by a DVD9", then YES, of course it will meet expectations.

But if the expectations are "It's going to be just as good as MGS4"...well....don't get your hopes up.

[phosphor112]

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Rock Bottom]

Fanboys who are trying to convince them selves that this game will be as good as any other Kojima games, think about when was the last time Konami made an awesome 3D action game that Kojima had nothing to do with...

Yep that's right, the answer is NEVER.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

And its that attitude and level of scrutiny from the MGS loyalists that will ensure the game doesn't meet expectations. It will be held up and compared to MGS4 which more than likely is completely unfair as from all reports its going to be a different type of game altogether. Add to that the simple fact that it will ship on DVD9 and Sony loyalists will instantly call it inferior based on the disc alone.

This game will sell well, but amongst its fan base I am sure it is going to be met with harsh criticism regardless of whether its warranted.

[ChampIDC]

Well, if Kojima has any say in things, I can't imagine it'll be a bad game at all. I don't think he'd let anyone disgrace his baby. Certainly won't be as good as anything directed by him, though.

[BadboyCivic]

the game is not even out

[phosphor112]

It will be bad.

( http://www.ps3center.net/ne... )

He also kept on saying "true sequel", "not a spin off", MGS 4 team was working on it, etc etc. He doesn't want to deal with MGSR. The only reason why its coming out is because MS paid for it. They HAD to have. Konami doesn't tell Kojima what he has to do unless money is involved.

[Megaton]

That's about where my expectations are. Kojima basically shat all over this thing in favor of Peace Walker at E3.

[darthv72]

You say MS paid for it but it is also coming to ps3. Last I thought, Konami is the primary company. Kojima may not be doing any direct work but it is his production team who will take heat for it if it fails.

Anyway, on topic, I think it could do well if people just see it as a different direction with a different main charecter. No need to compare (yet they will). There have been spin offs in almost every entertainment genre that have gone on to be equally as popular as the main source.

edit: i can see where konami has had a good relationship with sony. They have a good one with nin and ms as well. The game being more action based could be a sign of it being tailored for the western world.
Konami is all about making $$ just like the next company. This game having the name of MGS could be like you say....capitalizing on the brand name. Yet, we really know nothing about the game itself and it could really turn out to be a great action game with some stealth elements.

[phosphor112]

Konami and Sony have had a relatively tight relationship. So if MS wanted this game. Konami probably would have said that it couldn't be exclusive unless they wanted to dish out more money. Sony wouldn't have let an exclusive 360 MGS game to happen, and it probably would have made them mad as well. For MS, any MGS game coming to 360 is a win for them. Even though it more than likely wont be a "MGS experience", the name alone will create sales for them, more than what they paid for.

[RememberThe357]

lol no sh*t. That's why we're talking about "expectations".

On topic: I really don't have any expectations yet. But concerning it's coming from Kojima Productions, I have high hopes.

@GWAVE: I don't think that's fair. There are plenty of multi-platform games that are massively impressive. For instance Splinter Cell: Conviction, Assassin's Creed 2, and even that new Castlevania. It may be true that in some instances DVD is not ideal, but I would count out the ingenuity of the programmers and designers working on this game.

[rockleex]

Anyone who plays Zone of the Enders 1 and Zone of the Enders 2 can tell ZOE2 is the better game... without even knowing which one Kojima was involved with.

Metal Gear Ac!d is another game without Kojima's involvement, and yes these games are good... but just can't compare to Kojima games.

Yes, Kojima has THAT much impact on their games. We have learned from history that a Kojima Productions game just isn't as good without Kojima.

Its not unwarranted scrutiny, its the truth.

Will MGSR still be a good game? Most likely. Would it be better with Kojima? Yes. Will we buy it either way? Yes.

So yea, no one's bashing. No one has unwarranted expectations for MGSR... except for certain 360 fanboys who are expecting something rivaling MGS4 for purely fanboy wars sakes.

If MGS Ac!d and Portable Ops meet your expectations, then Rising will meet your expectations.

[Tony P]

I dunno. It's not even being worked on apparently. Ask me again in 2010.

[mistajeff]

I find it really hard to believe that Kojima wants ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Rising, he's said in numerous interviews that Raiden is his favorite MGS character and that he was really upset over the MGS fan reaction to him in Sons of Liberty.

I think he just realizes how much more important Snake(s) is/are.

[phosphor112]

Sadly Splinter Cell: Conviction is 360 exclusive. I was really wanting to play that game.

[Buttons]

If the standards are for people that have never played a REAL MGS, then yes; if they've actually played one (as in one directed by Kojima), then no.

[AssassinHD]

Splinter Cell: Conviction is not exclusive to the 360. If you have a decent PC you can still play it.

[phosphor112]

Yeah, I knew it was coming to PC, but I thought we were only talkin about consoles only, in which PS3 won't have it. I think I have to upgrade my PC to play conviction they way id like (high graphics).

[KingKionic]

Yes. Yes it will.

[CaseyRyback_CPO]

- Kojima not directing/writing it.
- MGS4 team working fully on PSP game
- PSP game is the 'true sequel' to the Metal gear Sequel - Kojima

so .. i mean after that..

I guess you can expect it will be a game with metal gear characters? as long as it does that.. it should meet them?

[RememberThe357]

When did he say the MGS4 team would be working entirely on the PSP game? I heard him say that the MGS4 team would be working on the PSP game as well, but I don't remember him say specifically that the MGS4 team was only working on the PSP game.

[mistajeff]

The MGS4 team is HUGE, I highly doubt every single one is working on Peace Walker, and I think in the Sony conference he just said "majority." He's still taking on an important enough role with Rising that he can ensure that it won't turn out to be a bad game.

Frankly, I'm AMPED for both.. though as a hopeless MGS fanboy I'll always say it, ANY of the 4 Snakes > Raiden. That doesn't mean I didn't REALLY want a playable Raiden as DLC.. and this could be arguably better. I'm confident that he wouldn't allow his team to make this game if he didn't see potential, and he's in an important enough role to steer them down the right track and (most importantly) keep everything canon.

[rockleex]

However, Kojima will ONLY be working on Peace Walker.

[mistajeff]

Yeah, they are working on Rising too. Kojima's role with Rising is basically just to b!tchslap them if they get out of hand, but I have a lot of faith in his team because Kojima himself obviously does too. Also I loved Portable Ops.

[ultimolu]

I would hope so?

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

Did you get that avatar from that ad on the side screen?

[ultimolu]

Yes. ^^
I liked the picture so I saved it and made an avatar.

[chaosatom]

lol, so off topic and random.

[BLuKhaos]

Your avatar reminds me of woman from Ghost in the Shell.

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

I suppose that depends on what the expectations are. If you're expecting 'Raiden' to be as awesome as Snake then come time the game releases you will be disappointed. Snake is a human and he's faced impossible odds and survived them all. It makes him seem invincible. Raiden on the other hand is a cyborg ninja who for the love of him can't keep his limbs attached to his body.

It's the same reason everyone likes batman more than superman. It's easy for superman to beat ppl. But Batman gets by with stealth a few gadgets and wit.

But i guess if you're looking for an epic game that's sure to please you will be in for a good treat. It won't be as good as a Solid Snake/Kojima title. But the simple fact that it's Metal Gear means that it should still be good. I'm buying it.

[cmrbe]

I really don't know what to expect from it to be quite honest.

One thing for sure. It will not be like any of the other MGS games.

[I did not murder him]

"This is the next series of Metal Gear," he said. "It's of course stealth espionage action, but with Raiden in the lead. If some of you remember, I talked at GDC about how development is different in the US and Europe. We're testing this approach ourselves with this game." He also said the game is being created "with up-and-coming youngbloods, because the game is for youngbloods."

http://www.1up.com/do/newsS...

Its probably going to be more like the old Splinter Cell's but with the same Japanese fantasy/vision, more action and much faster. It will most likely have solid melee combat mechanics.

This game will probably be more grounded in philosophy meaning no hiding in boxes, grabbing balls and with a new AI system and gameplay mechanic's rework with a western flare. A Ninja game if you will. lol

[shazui123]

worse

[CSM-101e]

action and philosophy... for today's semi-retarded populace. If Metal Gear gets any more "philosophy", Nietzsche & Heidegger will roll over in their graves.

[PLAYSTATIONGENRATION]

who has any...we have no game play or ever a decent trailer

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

But when people hear the name metal gear there is a certain expectancy people have for the game that has been built up by Kojima.

[chidori666]

no kojima in this game: no live to hype.

[-MD-]

Kojima is the producer what the f##k are you talking about?

[heyheyhey]

@Murder

he's not directing it or working on it at all.. he's working on MGS: Peace Walker and supervising Castlevania: Lord Of Shadows

[PirateThom]

Kojima is listed as a producer for every game that comes out of Kojima Productions (funny enough), but he's not the principle producer. He was listed as producer for Portable Ops, but the principle producer was Noriaki Okamura.

Kenichiro Imaizumi is the principle producer for Metal Gear Solid Rising.

[Thoreau]

am going to play MGR anyway.

[PirateThom]

My expectations are on par with my expectations of Ac!d before it came out.

Peace Walker has all my interest by virtue of being the proper sequel.

[heyheyhey]

i agree

although i'm more excited for Rising than i was Ac!d.. the "Lightning Bolt Action" tagline has me intrigued.. not necessarily in a good way, but intrigued nonetheless

i expect it will sort of like a hack n' slash with badass ninja moves as seen in MGS4, but with a bit stealth here and there.. interesting as a spin-off, but my true excitement as an MGS fan lies with Peace Walker

[deshon09]

but not epic

[spunnups]

No Kojima = Sub Par Metal Gear

[PirateThom]

What about Portable Ops?

[PotNoodle]

Give 'em a chance..

[TheCagyDies]

and Kojima is still contributing to MGSR.

"I'm not the director. I'm not doing game design either. Although, I do issue complaints (laughs). But, not too much."

[callahan09]

Portable Ops was a huge disappointment for me, personally. I actually like the Ac!d games a whole hell of a lot more than Portable Ops. Portable Ops started out well, but as it began to introduce resource management I just started to get annoyed with its deviation from the standard Metal Gear Solid mold. I cannot freakin' wait for Peace Walker though. The PSP is practically capable of everything the PS2 can do, it just doesn't have the extra thumbstick. But I think God of War Chains of Olympus proved that the PSP is like a portable PS2. So I fully expect Peace Walker to be every bit as impressive, deep, immersive, and amazing as Metal Gear Solid 3, its direct prequel and the last of the PS2 MGS games. I've been waiting for a true Metal Gear Solid game on the PSP since they announced Portable Ops.

[PotNoodle]

Being a metal gear solid fan, i hope it does. Listening to the latest kojima productions report - they said they are creating a whole new engine for this game, making sure to optimise it as best as they can for both the PS3, Xbox 360 and PC - they said they are serious when they say that.

And knowing kojima productions - they have been working with a guy for years now that demands nothing but perfection and you can see that in MGS4, the most polished game evar!

[hitokiri]

Well my expectations are somewhat high as I am a big fan of the Metal Gear Series. I actually hope this will be a great game...

Then again the last game to have Raiden as lead wasn't as good as the other ones.

Oh well. Hope its good.

[Tomonobu Itagaki]

Metal Gear fanboys will be heavily disappointed because it wont be a true Metal Gear, without even a piece of scenario and will tend to believe that it's just the beginning of a milking process (which is quite right actually).

360 fanboys will jubilate because they finally have a Metal Gear on their console, even if there is no Snake, if it's not a stealth game and if they don't know a sh*t about Metal Gear. For them, the only thing they remember about Metal Gear Solid is that cinematic against a badass ninja versus a diurnal vampire. They wish they will be able to do it in Rising, and yes, it will be pretty acrobatic.

It wont be AAA title like Ninja Gaiden series, just a good beat'em all like any Ninja Gaiden copypasta is. But for sure, people will see in Rising what they saw in Acid games: "WTF???".

[MGSR THE HD VERSION]

kojima said that his team knows how to make an mgs game even without his help. (kojima said that 4 years ago) and it's cause they've been making mg games for 20 years.

you know in the same sense it's like saying that SE can't function without hironobu or tecmo can't function without itagaki, when they still can.

[ps92117]

But his team ain't working on it, he probably hates the idea that mgs is on 360.

[MGSR THE HD VERSION]

frankly i can't really imagine how a developer would harbor any discontent for an other console, especially if this person (kojima) has indeed worked with multiple consoles in the past.

kojima's a man not a kid, i'm sure he knows what developing games on multiple consoles does for his company, and his fanbase.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

i honestly don't think he's the type of person that would be displeased to that kind of childish extent.

[rockleex]

Well look at FF12 compared to FFX. Anyways, my opinion is that Square needs Hironobu and Hironobu needs Square.

MGS without Kojima? Well look at MGS Ac!d or Portable Ops.

If Ac!d or Portable Ops meet your expectations, then Rising will meet your expectations.

[MajesticBeast]

but the team that worked on mgs4 works on peace walker those are the guys that made all the mgs games likely its gonna be guys from the lunar knights team. Im gonna guess alot less cutscenes in favor for 360owners less plotline so it has a deep story like halo and ninja gaiden + a little stealth gameplay. Kojima leave Konami before they ruin another great ip just so they cash in join the darkside.

[Gamer_Politics]

The question should be will Kojima ever live up to everyones expectations....all he has been doing is making MGS games c'mon bring out something fresh

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

I just hope this game goes in a totally different path than the MGS series. I will definitely give this game a try as long as it doesn't bring in all the silliness of MGS4. I don't want to be hiding in boxes, healing myself by looking at dirty magazines, or stupid question marks on top of my head. Just concentrate on the gameplay first with a good story without the ridiculously long cut scenes and I'm good.

[Unicron]

MGS is known for its trademark humor, Hollywood homage and inherent "silliness." To ask the series to drop some of its defining characteristics is a bit... I dunno... pointless to me.

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

Never liked the humor. I always thought the MGS4 had a lot of childish and juvenile humor. I remember watching some video of a soldier in MGS4 taking a dump in a barrel. Yeah that would be funny if I was 8.

Like I said, since this is a new team, I'm hoping for a different approach to the MGS franchise.

[HDgamer]

Thats like saying the creators of the first two scary movies to drop what they did and support scary movie 3 and 4. Look how much those last two movies sucked.

[heyheyhey]

ok, dropping everything you just described would make MGS.. not MGS really

although unfortunately, your annoying wish may be granted seeing as Kojima is off-board, and he's the one with the silliness

actually if you played the games you'd realize the story has deep undertones and deals with serious issues.. the silliness is optional really (apart from the question marks of course, which is the most recognizable staple)

so basically what your asking for is another generic action game with no unique feel to it.. well done!

[HDgamer]

Didn't his metal gear games predicted some things throughout time or those were merely coincidences? These offer a lot of detail for each story, 20 years of history.

[Sarcasm]

Seriously, Halo3MGSpro or whatever the hell's his name is the Epitome of a non-Kojima non-MGS fan.

He's asking it to be like Ninja Gaiden or something.

If you don't like MGS's long cutscenes, story, humor, silliness, characters. Then you don't like MGS at all.

Wait for Splinter Cell Conviction.

[JHUX]

Yeah, how about they don't drop those.. just to please gamers who have probably never been into the series in the first place.

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

And what's wrong with a change? You bring up Scary Movie. Well I give you the Batman movies. The first 2 with Michael Keaton were okay, the next 2 with Val Kilmer and George Clooney sucked ass. And the most recent ones with Christian Bale absolutely rocked. The movie franchise went from being silly to more serious. So it's possible if they did stop the silly humor of MGS4 that this game could be better than MGS4.

Sarcasm, and like I said I will only give this game a try if they took away the childish humor away. Don't try to flame me just because of my opinion. And yes, I will be picking up Splinter Cell day one! :)

[NegativeCreep427]

because it will certainly be gimped in accordance with the Xbox 360's capabilities. So No, I don't even believe it'll live up to Peace Walker.

[celldomceen1]

why the hell not? Its a MGS game and i for one am excited.

[ps92117]

I can rename my self Michael Jackson, that ain't mean I ll be able to sing.

[celldomceen1]

yea ok. Why some people want this to be a bad game is beyond me.

[Zizo_ha]

Yes it will .. all the 4 parts were gr8 so y wouldn't this be as gr8 .

[JHUX]

Most are worried that the team responsible for the true mgs series won't be working on it (Kojima and his team). They are working on what they call the "true sequel", while this to many is just going to be a spin off. Either way though I will be getting it.

[Rhezin]

lol what the f!ck are YOU talking about. Kojima isn't working on Rising AT ALL. Peacewalker gets the FULL kojima treatment. Rising might be cool with Raiden, but with no kojima it's gonna be a bland storyline. PEACEWALKER FTW.

[Unicron]

We know almost nothing about it, so I don't know what to expect. But I have faith in that team.

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

A lot of true gamers here are saying "Why the hell not?" Well sadly since this game is also coming to the 360 a lot of the sony fanboys are going with their typical "game is going to suck." If this game was exclusive to the ps3 than it would be "OMFGZZZZZ TEH GAME OF THE YEER FOLKS" So sad. :(

[HDgamer]

you'll never be a true gamer with that attitude.

[JHUX]

Heres how I see it....

It's not going to be made by the same team for one.
Also MGS4 they were struggling with fitting it onto a blu-ray disc.. They were actually complaining that they needed more space to do all they wanted to do.. So that leaves me a bit iffy on it being on a dvd without cutting some important things out.

I guarantee most fans of the series own ps3's and will be getting this game, but will it live up to there expectations? I don't think so. Especially since the original team will be working on Peace walker.

I have no doubt it will be a good game, but probably not up to standards with the MGS series. Wont stop me from playing it.

[cmrbe]

You want Kojima to drop what made MGS great to its fans and then you turn around and accuse MGS fans for not looking forward to this particular game because its multi-plat?.

Have it ever occurred to you that MGS fans are not looking forward to MGSR because it will most likely not be like other traditional MGS games that we love?.

You go one about Johnny taking a dump in a can but if you had played the game you would have understand why it was important.

I honestly think you post just to show how stupid you really are.

[No Way]

Haha. It is the truth, though.
Both sides do it, however..

I'm just glad that I can enjoy both systems and their offerings. :)

@cmrbe - Wait.. Why was Aqiba's dump in a can important? o.O

[cmrbe]

@NoWay. It showed that he was nervous unlike the others that were all clam and cool. Most of the scenes relating to Johnny in the beginning reinforced why he was nervous which we later found about because he didn't have any Nano Machines and why he was able to save Snake and also why screaming mantis wasn't able to control him.

My point is. Kojima didn't put that scene in for no reason or just to be funny. It had an important role in Kojima method of storytelling for Johnny's part.

[No Way]

Oh, okay.. I knew all that, I jus thought he was there cause he had the runs. =P
There is quite a bit of humor in the MGS games, so I jus figured that was why. Lol.

[HDgamer]

Johnny was a n00b from MGS1. There's no way in hell he could survive on his on in mgs4 without a team or his gf.

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

"It showed that he was nervous unlike the others that were all clam and cool. Most of the scenes relating to Johnny in the beginning reinforced why he was nervous which we later found about because he didn't have any Nano Machines and why he was able to save Snake and also why screaming mantis wasn't able to control him.

My point is. Kojima didn't put that scene in for no reason or just to be funny. It had an important role in Kojima method of storytelling for Johnny's part."

LMAO!!!! So he gets caught dropping a log in a barrel? Oh yeah. That's some superb storytelling. LOL. I"m sorry but that's one of the dumbest things I have ever read.

[cmrbe]

you really have a small mind to just look at 1 scene and make up your mind without looking at the big picture by looking at others scenes that tells a story.

So what do you think with one scene that Volgin grabs Snake's crotch in MGS3?. Kojima is gay?.

That 1 scene in MGS4 is just one of many scenes that tells a deeper story about a character at a certain time. Its why MGS games have long cutscenes. Its why in terms of story and character development MGS is unmatched. laugh all you want but Kojima received liftetime achievement awards from his peers that Halo or gears game devs can only dream of getting.

[Neo604]

nearly impossible, but gotta see what mgs rising have to offer.

[hitokiri]

Why do people hate on this game just because it's multiplatform?

Put a stop to the fanboyism and be a real gamer. I don't think Kojima will let someone ruin his baby, he'll oversee the project and make sure that it isn't a bad game.

I still hope it will be a good game, Raiden and all.

By the way... Where's my Z.O.E.3 Kojima?

[saimcheeda]

no kojima direction...no snake..cutdown graphics and value...dont think it will be all that good!!MGS PW is something to look out for!

[cmrbe]

like you normally would with any MGS masterpiece. Hopefully as a result we will be surprise by Raiden.

As a MGS fanboy this is how i am approaching this game.

[fossilfern]

Love the second this game was announced Xbots were on forums just going on about saying how PS3 is dead and so on and saying MS 'owned'E3 believing the game was exclusive but then kojima shows a TRUE metal gear in the series and not too long later states that rising is multiplat game. And nothing to do with this topic but Sony also show FF14 :) dont worry Xbots you have Alan Wake but so does my PC :D

[No Way]

Well, I hope you can play Alan Wake as smoothly on your PC as I will on my x360. :)
As far as I remember, the game on PC will have some hefty requirements..

[fossilfern]

I will :D i remember the first videos of the game running on a Q6600 with an 8800GTX and since this was years ago and everything was running max i don't think ill have a problem running it :) and by then i will have a new GPU but at least my PC wont RROD :)

[No Way]

Well, that's good. That's all that matters. :)
But, uhm, have fun spending twice as much as me..
I'd take a RRoD(which I've yet to have) over spending a few thousand.
But, hey.. That's just me. To each his own, I suppose.

[No Way]

Some of you people say it won't because Kojima wants nothing to do with it..
That he doesn't want to be associated with it,
And the only reason it's on the x360 is cause MS payed for it..
Then why is it on the PS3? And, cause of that, I'm sure he will be involved, in some way.

If not, that could translate in to a lot of unhappy MG fans..

[Foxgod]

Yep.

[justaddh30]

"No" goes in all fields

[Batzi]

Guys, go and listen to the latest Kojima Productions report. They clearly stated that the game is going to be better than MGS4 and that they are working on a complete new engine for the game from scratch and that they will push the game on every console to the max. They will take advantage of what the PS3 has to offer, same with 360 and PC. PC version might turn out to be the best version in terms of graphics but controls wise, PS3 FTW. It's a Meta Gear game after all and it's console based and PLAYSTATION based to be more accurate in terms of controls so yea, in the end the PS3 version might be the best version overall.

[Unicron]

Quiet Rami.

[Batzi]

ntek

[bunfighterii]

A whole new engine? Interesting, expecially after creating one for MGS:4, I just assumed they'd use that.

To me that says more action less stealth. Maybe a better CQC system to take advantage of Raiden's ninja skills?

[TomAB]

My expectation is that is won't live up to my expectaitions. Paradox ftw!

[Expy]

There are no expectations for this game. After Kojima basically shot it down as a spin-off and a gimmick at E3 I don't think anyone's really interested in it.

[Henry Cain]

Thats why MGS Rising wont do well on the 360 because 360 owners don't like these type of games. M$ worked so hard to get the games that they claim will make their system better such as Square rpg every last one of them sold like sh!t. Now M$ has MGS Rising and it will probably sale like sh!t. This is why Hideo doesn't want anything to do with this game.
It probably would be game of the year if it Hideo was working on it. Also Fallout 3,and MW were multiplat and both of them could have been game of the year.

[CobraKai]

If it came from Kojima himself, my expectations would be high, but since it's not, my expectations are pretty standard. (not low). I don't think that Kojima productions would release a bad Metal Gear game.

Although, Twin Snakes was absolutely awful.

[Batzi]

That's something that everyone needs to take in consideration. Not once Kojima Productions released a canonical Metal Gear that was disappointing. Not once. Why change now? Plus, Kojima is still supervising and producing the game so if they go wrong, Kojima will make sure to make things clearer for them. He already said that if the team goes through the wrong direction he will help them.

[bunfighterii]

but i assumed because twin snakes was just a remake of MGS on PSX it had to be good.
was it really that bad?

[PirateThom]

I wouldn't say Twin Snakes was awful, but that wasn't one Kojima's team or even Konami developed, it was Silicon Knights.

However, due to having the upgrades from MGS2 it made the game ridiculouly easy and the cutscenes were like something out of the Matrix in parts, presenting Snake as some kind of acrobatic super soldier.

[CobraKai]

That's what killed it for me. He wasn't a realistic soldier in that one. He was backflipping off of missiles, spinning around before firing a SNIPER RIFLE, using cartwheels to dodge bullets. Ugh. I can hear the real Snake saying: "You can't do that on a battlefield or you'll just get yourself killed."

[PirateThom]

That part where he jumps on the missile is painful to watch, it's just... so completely out of character for Snake.

[Shadowstar]

http://metalgear.wikia.com/...

I'm expecting it'll be like Snake's Revenge. Critically a success... maybe even more successful commercially... and Kojima will even say he liked it... but it will not be considered canon and will be generally disliked by fans (as a Metal Gear game, though not necessarily as a game in general). I mean, it seems to be about Raiden being a lightning ninja. That's a cool premise for a game in general, I just doubt it works as an MGS installment.

Will it live up to those expectations? Maybe.

Hey, I'm just bitter that things didn't go back to zero.

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

GOD!!! That must HURT the ChatFaceBookTwitterBots on this!!! ;-D

I LOVED it when that guy at M$ E3 Show said we have 'Snake on xBox 360 now' and Kojima said -
'NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! NOT!!! SNAKE!!!' ;-D ;-D ;-D

F-IN CLASSIC STUFF!!! ;)

[i3eyond the Circle]

It won't because it's Metal Gear on the Xbox360 = definite fail because only the Ps3 can make AAA games.

/s

[Sibs]

Do they mean THEIR expectations or REALISTIC expectations?

They can go around expecting mgs rising to cure cancer, but it just isn't going to, and they'll just end up disappointed in the end.

[DNAgent]

Yes, because people aren't expecting much. I mean it's a spinoff with an emo character that isn't being directed by Kojima. I'll still play the game if it's a flop and gets rated a 1/10 just because it's a metal gear game. It won't be a TRUE metal gear game since it doesn't have Snake so that's why I am more interested in Peace Walker.

MG:R won't live up to the hype of MGS4 and it won't be better but I think that's obvious.

[xionpunk]

Seems unlikely since Kojima isn't involved.

[bunfighterii]

MGS 4 is one of my favourite games of all time, and indeed, the rest of the games I've played in the franchise rate in my top 10 also. I doubt MGS:Rising would suck just because Kojima is not heavily involved in its production.

First of all there's nothing stopping the game being over a number of discs on the Xbox. Apparently that's what FFXIII will be, and I see no reason why it can't be like that on Xbox.

Secondly, there have been some BIG games that are multiplatform. GTAIV, Fallout 3 are two that I own, so it's not as if there are compression issues that can't be overcome. Alot of the space on a bluray disc comes from uncompressed audio (or I've read, don't quote me), which, while sounding fantastic to people with a home theatre system and surround sound, does not affect gamers like me with a more modest set up which is simply a 10 year old stereo plugged into my tv (it was a good stereo then... hah).

Thirdly, Kojima productions I doubt would put their name on a game that would be crappy. They haven't yet and I doubt will now. It's still Kojima's development company and I would expect that he'd have some say in how the final game will turn out.

And finally, it might not be a 'direct sequel' but it's still a Metal Gear game, and they always deliver.

My two cents

[Shmotz]

Kojima wont have any hand in MGS:R and its being completely developed by young bloods. MGS:PW however is being seen over by Kojima and developed by the MGS4 crew. Take your pick.

[bjornbear]

However, the apples will be far more mature and tasty than the oranges, since they will have more care in their harvest =)

Still, both great for eating =)

[Ziggazee]

Kojima is a legend! But im still buying the game!! I hope they utilise it for the ps3.. Then release it on multiple discs for 360 :) its goin to sell, and its shouldnt suck, it will be worth purchasing :)

[Cacic]

No game will live up to my expectations after playing through MGS4.

[keysy420]

no kojima no good once again it pays to have ps3

[Deios]

Show us some gameplay so we can decide if it will live up to expectations.

[randomwiz]

big fan of the metal gear series, but will rising live up to the expectations, no... its just not the stealth game im expecting from the MGS series.

[Mr_Luke]

Probably will be a good action game (sigh...), but without Kojima... dunno

[boss_killa]

would let this game suck. but if he isnt directing it, or heavily involved in it it wont be as epic as mgs4. it doesnt have to be though.

it'll be interesting to see how big of a game they can make, seeing as how they have to fit the game on dvd9.

too bad peace walker wasnt being made for ps3. now that woulda been awesome.

[dorron]

99% probability I'm buying it since I'm a fan of the series, but don't have high hopes on it being as good as the other games...

I'm more excited about Peace Walker than MGS: Rising.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Wow that's really unfair. Yes it isn't Kojima, but give the other team a chance.

[JJFNIGHTS80]

Be prepared for swapping your 3 disc on all xbox 360 owners. And without Kojima San help.